It’s a completely different set of judges for every final so stop being a sore loser! Her twin sister came in 7th and the crowd have nothing to do with it! Jade Carey has no artistry whatsoever!
@@TheGeographyWatch Her twin sister had an E score only a little below Jordan Chiles' E score. Make it make sense. Only reason Jennifer's overall score was lower because her difficulty score is much lower.
Basically there should've been 4 more tenths off of her first pass but there's limits to how much you can deduct on a single skill. I scored it myself I got exactly an 8.2 e score because of that rule
I am extremely disappointed with the scoring of her routine. I understand the people that said that it was fair, and I would get, if I only had watched this routine alone, why she was given a 14.2. But if they were so harsh with Jordan’s E score, and didn’t even count Rebeca’s memmel turn, why give her the tittle. I love both of the Gadirova twins, but the results were totally absurd, specially considering she’s competing in her home country. Again, all respect to her, and the way this was scored has nothing to do with Jessica herself, this is FIG’s issue.
Exactly! She did not deserve the score she received. Jordan's landings were way better than Jessica's, and to be honest Jordan had better execution. Shame on these judges for showing favoritism.
@@deecal1021 You clearly don’t understand how gymnastics judging works under the new Code of Points. It’s not just about ‘steps on landings’, it’s about the artistry requirements, which Jess G excels at compared to other finalists (except Andrade, but she didn’t have a great routine today). 11 fully-qualified FIG judges, who judge elite gymnastics for a living, sat on that panel (none from GB, BTW), including 6 looking at E score alone. Are you seriously suggesting they’re all wrong in their application of the Code, and you’re right?! Give your head a wobble.
@@edvandolima2069 @Edvando Lima 206 Achei a nota da Rebeca justa, pq teve um giro invalidado e alguns erros nas aterrisagens... Mas a nota da Gadirova foi muito inflada, o pódio de verdade seria 1 Chiles, 2 Rebeca e 3 Carey
@@matthewplampton955 Even the British commentators were surprised at how harshly especially Jordan was scored. So don't pretend it was all objective - it never is with humans involved, but this was even arbitrary. The differences in scores were huge compared to very similar routines in other finals and in qualifications.
@@mariusa.5863 I never said it was objective. But if you read the code you'll see why their e scores were much lower. I think an E score splitting out technical and artistic execution would help people understand the results better for floor.
@@leykimayri Well, I don't have to. My country won plenty of medals in Liverpool. Everything earned fairfully btw. Sadly can't say that about the others.
Idc what anyone says. This routine in no way deserved Gold nor Silver. The worst routine of the comp for her and got a 14.2? No way. Scoring is completely wrong. Jordan should’ve won.
Chest down on every landing and big steps. E score is a bit mystifying, but, even with an appropriate E score, her Difficulty score SHOULD have given her the Gold nonetheless. E score is laughable here given how harshly Rebeca and Jordan were scored.
Neither Rebecca or Jordan danced though. And were rightly penalised under the new code. Hand waving, poses and gestures isn't classed as dancing in the new code. It has to invovle the whole body.
@@matthewplampton955 Hate this dancing bs. Should just give them time to regain strength for the next tumbling pass. Why is the COP forcing the women to dance but not the men I wonder.
@@matthewplampton955 Jordan danced, it was more hip-hop/contemporary…let alone “artistry” is subjective! Additionally some may prefer more classical dancing than hip-hop, or jazzy dancing and can be very misleading to athletes resulting in cookie cutter routines with the same dance moves…kind of an oxymoron because if they all dance the same then no one has artistry. Just something to think about
@@dtimmymoua that was not hip-hop dancing, and it does a disservice to that medium to say so. It was hairography and arm waving at best, and the judges marked it as such. 1.2 can be deducted on artistry/dance now.
The landings weren't clean at all. A very strange win... But the leaps are great. Let's wait for the analysis from the fans (like it was with Ashram and Averina)
Her leaps are unquestionable. This was a great final and she came out on top. It is strange that the the cleanest tumbling didn't win. The code wants those leaps and turns.
Did you even watch the final? Literally no one had clean landings, but Jessica picks up less deductions in terms of her dance elements (she also doesn't have any spins = less deductions to take!) and also her artistry is heads and shoulders above the rest. She also has a 6.0 D score! So I struggle to see why you think this is a strange win.
You clearly don’t understand how gymnastics judging works under the new Code of Points. It’s not just about ‘steps on landings’, it’s about the artistry requirements, which Jess G excels at compared to other finalists (except Andrade, but she didn’t have a great routine today). 11 fully-qualified FIG judges, who judge elite gymnastics for a living, sat on that panel (none from GB, BTW), including 6 looking at E score alone. Are you seriously suggesting they’re all wrong in their application of the Code, and you’re right?! Give your head a wobble.
@Emma Sloan which Jess has, and Carey doesn't. No-one was perfect today, and I think that both US gymnasts and Rebeca have dance elements that let them down today.
@Emma Sloan Y’all throw around the word “artistry” as if it’s just made up points based on feelings…it’s not. Judges have a rubric telling them what to deduct if NOT there. Out of all the top gymnast (barring Jade who makes up for it in acro) they don’t have much separation in artistry deductions.
@@a_2502 Jordan had some big hops on landing as well, she didn’t land her leaps cleanly and some loss of form in the air in tumbling. Yes, Jessica had some steps on landing but she has difficult tumbles, sky high leaps with clean landings and probably the best artistry and expression amongst any of the other gymnasts which forms a big part of the new code of points
Also if you believe she was overscored the whole worlds that’s okay but you can’t blame the athlete. She’s incredibly grateful and humble and I couldn’t be happier for her. She has no control over the score so let’s save our comments for the judges and leave Jessica out of it
@@chewiegym2765 I think they're mentioning her name because it is her routine that people are questioning the scoring on the most. Doesn't mean they are questioning her.
@@shannondavidson683 the comments calling her Gadiroverscored are bullying comments if ever I saw them. Mentioning her name if the critique is of the judges is fine. Bullying comments that are personally aimed at a teenager are a disgrace.
Jordan, Jade, and Rebeca deserved higher scores. Jordan was robbed of the Gold medal. The Brits were over scored this competition since it was held in the UK. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Incorrect! Judges give more marks for artistry and Jessica’s routine has the best artistry. Jordan, Jade and Rebeca don’t get as many marks for artistry as she does so stop being sore losers and think that US deserve everything. Watch the videos back and you’ll see that this routine was actually the best out of all of them.
@@arafasantos Read the code of point lol. Jordan has a very good performance, but clearly something judges can potentially take away (1) compulsory: choreography touching the floor (2) elongation (3) original / complex choreography Jordan mainly hit the boxes on expressiveness and musicality, but didn't hit some other boxes
@@cocoroni1031 Jessica was overscored. 0.5 low chest landings (0.3 for Silvias, 0.1 for each of the others), 0.9 for all three landings(0.3 each), her Silvias form was so sloppy - body not tucked during first rotation, body shape, leg separation and flexed feet and that’s only considering one pass. Her ring position - foot was only at her head when it should be above, she also missed her turn on the split by 90 degrees. Even if she had no artistry deductions, her tumbling deductions were not all taken, she was overscored.
@@leykimayri I just wanted to wait until you showed up. It is really funny that hundreds of people out there have different opinion from yours and yet you still believe to be wiser and a better judge than everyone else. Clown, go away
@@oceanegamet655 Gabby Douglas AA(on UB, BB,FX), Raisman (2016 Quals), Wieber(2011 AA), Raisman AA (VT, UB, BB, FX) and she still finished fourth. Kocian (2015 + 2016 UB), Carey (2019 VT). Just off the top of my head.
Congrats to Jessica. I don’t think this should have gone over a 14. Hops on 2 landings with a low chest on one and a step on the first landing. I know her difficulty was a little higher than Jordan’s but 14.2 compared to Jordan’s routine is a little over scored imo
@@leykimayri Look, I’ve seen you all over this worlds videos commenting the literal. same. exact. comment. Over and over and over again. If you think all our opinions are ‘stupidities’ your favorite word, then post your own comment with your own opinions. Sorry but you’re annoying and I frankly do not see the point in answering to comments like this. Have a great day! 😊
@@a_2502 they are just mad cause they know she was overscored during this whole competition. she is a fantastic gymnast, but the judges objectively favoured her
@@--julian_ the whole competition. This is solely on the judges. Setting a bad precedent. I just want to see a competition where judging is fair and correct the whole time.
Do i think she was over scored? Absolutely yes, but I think people forget that you can lose up to 1.2 in artistry deductions which imo she won the entire category. Do I think she deserved the gold? Uhm not very sure but that won’t change the outcome.
This is actually something that's bothering me. I personally prefer routines with music I consider catchy, but this is so subjective. Makes it definitely more difficult to judge objectively with something that stirs emotions like music.
I have nothing against her I love her! but she has big landing deductions and compared to the other finalists it should not have been 14.2, and the fact Jordan only got a 13.833 is out of this world. Her routine here was much better than team final however it got almost 0.2 lower?? Congrats to Jessica but the scoring needs to be fixed. Also poor Jenifer I really hope she doesn’t feel disincluded by all of the success from her sister. I’m sure she’s so happy for her but there is an extent to her being over shadowed !
@@leykimayri Double-double .1 body alignment .1 crossed legs .1 flexed feet .1 chest position .3 landing Double layout .1 leg separation .1 flexed feet .1 landing Ring .1 feet exactly at head height Gogean .1 precision (should’ve been downgraded) .1 step .1 split position Switch full .1 precision .1 additional steps Straddle full - Layout full .1 early open up Double tuck .1 flexed feet .3 landing TOTAL DEDUCTION = 2.1 EXECUTION SCORE = 7.9 And I have not considered other deductions like body alignment, artistry, and other non technical deductions.
correct medal order but overscored. how is she 2 tenths above chiles in execution? the judges were crazy this final and before people complain about "artistry", chiles had just as good, if not better, artistry.
@@--julian_ Your last comment I can agree with. Your first comment, I profoundly disagree. Jordan's NCAA version was SO much better than what she had now, it got switched around slightly and whilst it's still good, Jess' choreography has a lot more substance.
@@leykimayri I believe the only idiot here is you who are going against the truth by answering over 100 comments on this video. Gold Deserved, but inflated grade. Be more polite.
First time in my life I do not agree with scoring… All of a sudden Carey and Chiles got less than 14 whereas Jessica got almost the same scoring than in quals? And there were no major mistakes from neither of them. It is obvious that something is not right. Before I get any criticism I am Italian and not a fan of anybody in particular 😂
Yeap, it’s called ARTISTRY DEDUCTIONS which can reach up to 1.600 points. It’s about time the Americans learn about them instead of designing routines with build-in deductions
Ok then why not deducting in quals and all around (team and individual) and then all of a sudden completely changing the judgment criterium in the finals? The criterium should be the same at least in the course of the entire tournament, if not in the course of the entire Olympic period.
So basically all of the FIG judges? Because that girl has been getting constantly the highest E-scores on floor ever since Tokyo by different panels of judges (qualifications, team final, AA finals, floor finals). If you count them that’s more than 100 qualified FIG judges, 😂
@@leykimayri of course this not gonna happen, it’s just a angry manifested about the ENORMOUS OVERSCORED. I do love this girl, but do u really find it right with the other gymnasts?
You clearly don’t understand how gymnastics judging works under the new Code of Points. It’s not just about ‘steps on landings’, it’s about the artistry requirements, which Jess G excels at compared to other finalists (except Andrade, but she didn’t have a great routine today). 11 fully-qualified FIG judges, who judge elite gymnastics for a living, sat on that panel (none from GB, BTW), including 6 looking at E score alone. Are you seriously suggesting they’re all wrong in their application of the Code, and you’re right?! Give your head a wobble.
I loved the beauty of this routine, but I don't think this routine should have won. Jordan's landings and landing positions were much better. They didn't take an obvious artistry deduction from Jordan, so I don't think "over-rewarding" Jessica's artistry is appropriate. Jessica does start higher, but she ate that start score lead up in her landings alone, and that's without taking any deductions for her chest position/landing positions.
I hope Simone Biles compete again and they have competition somewhere on Southeast Asia or in Middle Eastern or Africa... So tired of home country based judging we're losing the sanctity of the sport, medals are given to the highest payer instead of rightful winners... You can say whatever you want but we all know damn well this doesn't deserve an 8.200 E score. Notice she's the ONLY one having 8.1+ E score even though her execution is just as mediocre as everyone else
Tell me that at the worlds in 2021, in Japan, that there weren't a lot of Japanese medals in WAG. Yet no-one got as horrid on comments as they have done about Jess' scores this year.
@@gym_analysis Now go and list all the ARTISTRY DEDUCTIONS she has, if any. Tip, that’s a total of 1.600 points that can be deducted. And once you do it, do the same for Jordan’s and Jade’s routine and you will understand exactly why this girl won even though she’s not that clean in her tumblings.
ok i made some changes, sending it to the judges, being nice: jordan 5.8 + 8.2 = 14.000 🥇 rebeca 5.9 + 7.9 = 13.800 🥈 jade 6.0 + 7.8 = 13.800 🥉 jessica gadi 6.0 + 7.8 = 13.800 🥉
@@TheGeographyWatch i'm aware of deductions on jade's artistry and her score evidences it, rebeca didn't have the perfect routine but the same is valid for jessica, who i think did not get proper deductions for low chest and form breaks. still all of 4 deserved a medal i just don't agree with the order
@@omegaaa2012 Jade has a 5.9 D-score so by your scoring (which is ridiculous but anyway I’ll play), Jessica gets bronze and Jade goes home with nothing at 4th place
@@omegaaa2012 It’s a tie (in your scenario). Both Jade’s and Jessica’s coaches would appeal and probably Jessica’s E-score would go higher while Jade’s D-score down. There are always inquiries when there is a tie (both Jordan’s and Jade’s coaches appealed when they tied).
Big step + chest/form + feet in 1st landing Leg separation + chest + hop in 2nd landing Chest + big hop + feet in 3rd landing Balance/little step 0:40 I'm not a specialist, but i saw these fails on exectuion
To everyone calling this 'home cooking', the judges were not British. Hopefully with more emphasis on artistry in the new CoP, the Americans will now actually learn to dance, and not just robotically move from pose to pose.
"Homecooking" in Japan, Switzerland and Germany. Jessica really has a big home then. 😍I can't wait and see Jessica keep sending gifts to these haters again and again.
I like the routine and i’m not shaming her but this wasn’t a deserved win. Her E score is too high for what she has offered compared to how jordan and jade were scored
Jade and Jordan got done dirty asf. It’s Jennifer getting a better e score than Jade for me. Andrade was scored fairly yet the others should’ve been as well. I’ll be scoring them all myself today.
What the fuck, all the routines were the exact same from quals, and yet the only score that stayed the same was hers, jade and jordan were punished for no reason other than the fact that they were not british.
Yikes 8.2 E? Not even a single clean landing and ugly form in 1st tunbling , this is joke of the year😂 clearly they wanted team GB to win a Gold desperately in their homesoil.
I think everyone is forgetting that gymnasts are given big points for artistry and Jess always scores the highest because she has the best artistry. Jordan also had big step and jumps back. When you watch the routines back it is very clear that Jess was the worthy winner
Congrats to Jessica Gadirova and a great way for Team GB to finish out what has been an incredible WCs for both men and women. 14.200 is a bit high, but I guess her leaps balance out some of the low landings on her tumbling (also more difficult passes than Jordan). Def still well deserved IMHO
TO the people crying about the score -You clearly don’t understand how gymnastics judging works under the new Code of Points. It’s not just about ‘steps on landings’, it’s about the artistry requirements, which Jess G excels at compared to other finalists (except Andrade, but she didn’t have a great routine today). 11 fully-qualified FIG judges, who judge elite gymnastics for a living, sat on that panel (none from GB, BTW), including 6 looking at E score alone. Are you seriously suggesting they’re all wrong in their application of the Code, and you’re right?! Give your head a wobble.
sore loser. i love rebeca but today she lost. dont make fans lose respect for team brazil with sore comments like these from fans .as garotas merecen muito mais!! one reason i dont like team italy is because they weresore losers, team brazil is waaaay better than that!
I see where they could have taken off an additional .2 in deductions, but that still would have placed her first. When you're on your home turf, the judges can be a tad lenient. But despite all of that, I think it's an amazing routine and definitely worthy of its placement. Her leaps are on point! That, and she has the energy of an 18 year old! Congrats to Jessica!!
Could not agree more!!! Yes she was a tad overscored, but it doesn't give anyone the right to ridicule her over something that's out of her controll. But I felt like the medal order was correct.
Home turf but NONE OF THE FIG were british who were judging> Make it make sense Gina! You clearly don’t understand how gymnastics judging works under the new Code of Points. It’s not just about ‘steps on landings’, it’s about the artistry requirements, which Jess G excels at compared to other finalists (except Andrade, but she didn’t have a great routine today). 11 fully-qualified FIG judges, who judge elite gymnastics for a living, sat on that panel (none from GB, BTW), including 6 looking at E score alone. Are you seriously suggesting they’re all wrong in their application of the Code, and you’re right?! Give your head a wobble.
@@lalareal180 So artistry > landings/tumbling? LOL! Then I suggest we take away artistic gymnastics from Olympics and make it a dance contest. Do you expect men's artistic gymnastics floor also to dance around?
Guys can we all please chill. Hear me out. In the Tokyo final she had a 5.5 d and got a 14 and no one complained. Now she has 5 more tenths difficulty and the judges specifically required more artistry this time around and she nails it. So yes the executionion in Tokyo was better but she has a half a point more difficultly to make up for it and she was one of the only ones with the artistry in the final. Maybe it was inflated a bit but not a lot. Especially people complaining about her scoring the whole world championships is ridiculous. I agree that on bars and beam she was over scored but the entirety of her floor scores have been correct in my opinion
Overscored? But she's British and it's fine. If she were a Russian, then a massive media scandal would have followed. Oh, wait. Maybe because she has a Russian-like surname she was overscored? A British Adelina Sotnikova...
Years of USA being overscored in WAG, now someone else gets overscored and they're whining like babies. At least the gymnasts have the decency and sportsmanspirit these fans lack.
All the armchair judges not fully reading the new code. She was the only finalist who danced throughout, which gives her such a big edge in the new scoring system (1.2 points on artistry/dance). Judges are no longer rewarding hand waves and hair flicks as dancing, which all the other lead finalists did.
Actually all of the British girls, I’m not a British (I’m Greek) and I live in Belgium but I have to give credit to the choreographer of the British team, she (I think it’s a woman) studied a lot the current code
@@chewiegym2765 Chiles has great artistry. And no one is arguing that it doesn't matter. But if the judges fairly deducted Jess' routine, she wouldn't have been on the podium. 1 tumbling pass had a 0.3 hop and a 0.1 low chest. Another had 0.3 hop and a 0.5 low chest. And the other had 0.3 hop. That's 1.4 and we haven't even gotten to the form deductions on the tumbling (bent knees, flexed feet, etc). And some of her leaps here clearly didn't reach 180. I understand the focus on artistry in this COP, but this COP doesn't instruct to turn a blind eye to tumbling deductions. I do feel for her, but people have to speak out against the abhorrent unfair application of the COP at this world championships. It's making a mockery of the sport. It's turning people away supporting or even being interested in watching. When the gold medal is awarded to a routine that is clearly being unfairly favored, it puts into question the integrity of the sport. It hurts everyone.
Can I just remind everyone in the comments you are talking about an 18 year old. She didn't choose her score, that was the judges You are allowed you're own opinions and by all means express them but please consider your choice of words. You never know the impact they might have on someone!
Well done to Jess! 🎉 Before anyone posts any horrid comments on here, I'm leaving these rational points here... 1) she is not in charge of judging. 2) she has won two European titles NOT in GB. 3) there is no conspiracy, if there was Jen wouldn't have placed 7th, Joe and Giarnni wouldn't have placed 7th and 8th on pbars, and Joe wouldn't have placed 22nd AA. 4) she still got 1.8 points deducted. 5) don't bully teenagers please. 😊
Like I commented before, Jennifer's E score was only a little lower than Jordan Chiles' E score. Stevie Wonder can see that didn't make sense. Jennifer's D score is too low to get her on the podium, but the judges still helped her out as much as they could....Jessica (and Jen) had great/good routines, but it's quite obvious the judges favored them and didn't score them as harshly as they scored the other gymnasts.
You seem to have forgotten than in international competitions they don’t use domestic judges but international ones. I don’t think there was a British judge in this panel, lol
@@leykimayri Tbh they really weren’t. And I was surprised as we’re talking about Jessica Gadirovascored who is known for her excellent leaps, but the ones in this routine were NOT it.
Jordan didn’t hit her leaps, especially the first one she did was not good at all. Watch it again and you will see she puts her feet down before completing her turn
@@duranca I think it's a good wake up call to the Careys that benefitted Rebeca. Rebeca needs to lose that Memmel turn, and Jade needs to gain more artistry and try not to take 4 steps after a double tuck.
@@chewiegym2765 Yes, she was spoiled at the NCAA, I think they allow a step back after landing a pass (correct me, if I'm wrong). Nonetheless, bronze in any event is great when returning to elite. She's fortunate the inquiry did not cost her a medal, but I'm happy it got Rebeca on the podium.
@@fortheloveofcats2462 Jessica was also overscored. 0.5 low chest landings (0.3 for Silvias, 0.1 for each of the others), 0.9 for all three landings(0.3 each), her Silvias form was so sloppy - body not tucked during first rotation, body shape, leg separation and flexed feet and that’s only considering one pass. Her ring position - foot was only at her head when it should be above, she also missed her turn on the split by 90 degrees. Even if she had no artistry deductions, her tumbling deductions were not all taken, she was overscored.
Copying this from the last post I posted on a video where people were being horrid. I think it's very nasty how people are commenting rudely on videos of gymnasts as soon as they win something. The gymnasts aren't robots, they have feelings, and some people are so blinkered by their own opinions that they don't care that an 18 year old who has just had one of the best nights of her career will read these if she wants to see footage of herself. Forgetting all of the horrid comments about Simone in Tokyo? How is this any better? I hope I never become as horrid as some of the gymternet.
Learn the COP! Jess has 3 passes so she leaves less room for deductions. Landings aren’t everything, I’ve literally never seen Simone stick a landing. She also loses 0 in artistry, unlike some Americans.
She was overscored in the AA final but I think her e score seems about right this time. I do think that Jade and Jordan should've gotten a higher e score than high 7's.
I think the L-Hop fulls (or whatever they're called) get them deductions more than they actually help. I think if they had leaps that weren't leaning over to the side, like those hops appear to be, then their execution would automatically increase.
Look at her confidence and assured delivery of that sensational routine! The artistry and execution of her dance elements make this the dominating performance. Well deserved!
Beautiful artistry, but definitely overscored. Results should have been much closer. Overall, I still think the better routine won the day. Landings for all of the athletes were off.
