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JF-17 Thunder: ILS TACAN IFR Approach & Landing Tutorial | DCS WORLD 

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@grimreapers
@grimreapers 3 года назад
From DEKA: "Regarding the APR mode, when stage in FAF, there's a circle attached to FAF point for pilot to cut into the final ILS glide."
@averagestudent5223
@averagestudent5223 4 года назад
Why do i think JF17 is fast becoming a new DCS fan favorite!
@capricornforever
@capricornforever 3 года назад
Its a simple and easy aircraft to fly. I don't know if it like that in reality but in DCS its absolutely a joy to fly.
@ianmac93
@ianmac93 4 года назад
Love the aircraft, the laser guided rockets are a blast.
@exiletsj2570
@exiletsj2570 4 года назад
Its like having an infinite amount of mavericks!
@CHECK6-963
@CHECK6-963 4 года назад
I love your videos Cap. This one has some things you did that made your job much harder. The FAF is a Final Approach Fix it's inside the Initial Approach Fix. The angle to join the final is less than 30 degrees and always 2 miles outside the FAF. This is called the Approach Gate. Matter of fact the pilot must agree to be vectored to a final inside that approach fix. The approach joined high at the FAF is considered unstable. Keep up the hard work!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Thanks Check!
@tflashtube
@tflashtube 4 года назад
Superb DCS aircraft indeed! Such a joy to fly and crystal clear avionics.
@snotcycle
@snotcycle 4 года назад
funny that you say "try doing this in a mig21" the 21bis we have in game can fly itself down the RSBN glideslope with autopilot.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Roger, but even so you got to admit that getting everything set and in the right place is hard in the mig? Well it is for me.
@alikamran6414
@alikamran6414 4 года назад
The closer you get to ILS or a VOR etc the CDI will get crazier. So at the end even a slight roll will take you off path. If you have a zero visibility and you are still fighting, go around within 2-3 miles of Rwy, keep the traffic clear. I would say you boys do a landing competition where visibility gets worse every round. :)
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 4 года назад
Something tells me this would be going to be a crashing competition instead :)
@justmommy
@justmommy 4 года назад
Amazing jet! affordable, performing, technolog wise and loadout is incredible!
@Mrv9019
@Mrv9019 4 года назад
Still i need a 50% discount to buy it
@asiftalpur3758
@asiftalpur3758 4 года назад
@@Mrv9019 bruh I need 2 years to even buy gear for dcs :c
@Falcon_Verse
@Falcon_Verse 4 года назад
I just bought extreme 3d pro. But i cant buy jet, need some real discount.
@timdeif9626
@timdeif9626 2 года назад
Hi Mr.Grim Reapers, thank you for the video. Highly instructive. I have just few notes. ILS course are always magnetics except IF you are beyond 70N or 70S, which is not yet possible in DCS. Regarding "HEAD DOWN" in rea life HEAD DOWN is a no go! Your standby HUD or Horizon shall be always on the left or right MFD never on the lower one (except for specific ELECTRICAL failures or MFD failure). If the type of the aircraft is a multi crew airplane and depending on the flown procedures one of the pilot SHALL always be HEAD UP (AVIATE & NAVIGATE) while the other may be HEAD DOWN to accomplish the required task. And the reason is a golden rule : AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE, IFF and ENGAGE/DISENGAGE. Thank you for your effort.
@MondoChow777
@MondoChow777 Год назад
This is false, in order to get your IFR certification (Intrument Flight Rating) in the U.S which is required for a private pilots license, commercial pilots license and to pass military flight qualification. You must fly an entire 3 to 4 hour round journey from and back to the airport without looking out of the flight deck. To accomplish this the instructor will have you wear blinder goggles that block your peripheral vision up and to the sides while you are being closely monitored to simulate white out conditions. This test is also done at night, one day session and one night session. You will absolutely not be qualified as any kind of pilot in the U.S without passing your IFR test. As a DCS fan, player or just an aviation enthusiast you should know this.
@MondoChow777
@MondoChow777 Год назад
And for the Aviate, Navigate, Communicate mantra especially when it comes to flying through thick cloud cover, aviate means fly the plane, not look out side the flight deck, human beings have a nasty habit of trying to gain bearings visually and becoming confused between visual flight and instrument information often causing disorientation regardless of experience level. Many crashes have been caused by this major mistake in training and that is why a IFR is so important to getting your pilots license in the modern age of aviation.
@christianboutonnet1381
@christianboutonnet1381 4 года назад
Hello, Good explanations but ... could you speak more slowly please because it is not easy to follow you :-). cordially
@MAXsenna00
@MAXsenna00 4 года назад
Thanks for a great video again Cap! In another SIM we have the option to put the visor down, and then the HUD is clear to see, so we can wish...
@blackout2331
@blackout2331 4 года назад
Correct me if i'm wrong but i'm sure the beeping at 12:31 is the outer marker of the ILS and the rapid beeping at 13:01 is the inner marker?
@totoritko
@totoritko 4 года назад
You're right.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
yup
@rawdyrider
@rawdyrider 4 года назад
correct
@cmibm6022
@cmibm6022 4 года назад
A basic rule is to catch the glide slope from beneath. That is, get down to 3000 (terrain permitting), fly level till you hit the glide slope and then follow it down. Is there an auto throttle in this plane?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
No ATC
@bjwonsite
@bjwonsite 4 года назад
Another great vid Cap! It really is a nice stress free way to learn this jet (for me, maybe not for you 😜🤣) thank you!
@pakistanitiger2084
@pakistanitiger2084 4 года назад
good information good job
@jontrout2010
@jontrout2010 4 года назад
hmmmm it appears the glass cockpit concept is growing on you afterall ;)
@rickstorm8948
@rickstorm8948 4 года назад
Nicely done boys
@tahirusman5929
@tahirusman5929 4 года назад
Can’t keep jabbering doing an ILS!
@Jacob-qu8kj
@Jacob-qu8kj 4 года назад
Why does it start you at the FAF as opposed to the IAF. Is it stimulating you getting vectors or does this approach just have a LOM/IAF and you're using the DME to intercept the glideslope?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
^^ This is above my pay grade. Anyone know?
@TheCraigHudson
@TheCraigHudson 4 года назад
Hey great video I could not figure out how to get the hud to display tacan but this makes more sense I figured it was something with the up front controller but still not fully figured out
@Ryan-lx6oh
@Ryan-lx6oh 2 года назад
Love this channel! I am new to DCS and would be some what lost without it. You always seem like you are in a rush though, wish you could slow down a little bit. Maybe I'm just getting old? I duno? 😀
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
Most people play the vids at 75% speed.
@Ryan-lx6oh
@Ryan-lx6oh 2 года назад
@@grimreapers I felt kinda bad saying something lol... You've got a great channel mate! Just recently got the JF-17 and am setting up my HOTUS and am using your tutorial as a reference. Love your work! 👍
@exiletsj2570
@exiletsj2570 4 года назад
It’s so refreshing to have a modern jet, with highly functionality and well thought out systems. I do also like warbirds because thats a whole different challenge. I much prefer these polar opposites over the f16 and 18, thats like flying a 1980s laptop programmed by a chimp.
@Tridan24
@Tridan24 3 года назад
Great tutorial again GR. Thx very much, although was wondering if there is a way to set QFE in this jet?
@schylertkatchew2659
@schylertkatchew2659 4 года назад
Are ILS ghost beams simulated at the multiples of the glide slope eg, wrong intercept height to high pouting you on a glide slope beam that will overshoot the runway and also lose the localiser as you get closer to the runway. Also ILS is not on the runway itself meaning you have to keep your glides slope and look for the runway apon loss of the beam.
@737Maxter
@737Maxter 4 года назад
Instrument checkride….failed. LOL, kidding. Nice job, I learned stuff I didn't know about, again. Keep it up!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Thanks! It was a pretty bad attempt.
@arguywindham1101
@arguywindham1101 4 года назад
Holy crap I bought this earlier today to take advantage of the sale. And I must say all these systems seem so much more simplified compared to the Viper, and Hornet. It would be great if we could one of those or a Super Hornet with some of these easier systems.
@BrljoMrljo
@BrljoMrljo 2 года назад
THis sounds like simple stuff for someone who used to fly jets IFR in MSFS2020 and MSFSX. ALso, in civilian world, you need to have runway on sight when you get to your minimums (meaning minimum altirude from where you can see runway). THis conditions would be no go for mist planes I presume. SInce I just got JF-17, this will be awsome to try. I hope I did not got too rusty XD.
@WizavPRO
@WizavPRO 4 года назад
Have you notified Airport of your approach? You must contact ATC and tell them "Inbound" then "Request Landing" at the later stage, and only then they will turn Airport Lights ON... no lights for illegal landing xD
@aliraza6628
@aliraza6628 2 года назад
Please make video with JF17 block 3. Thank you most of us waiting for it. Thank you.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
No longer works in game.
@orinpolansky386
@orinpolansky386 4 года назад
It was awful but funny) That display you had down is only thing you need. To very easy understanding of ILS markers imaging this. That yellow cross is a back of the car you following. You need to follow exactly behind it. Thats it.
@earlflood2482
@earlflood2482 4 года назад
How to join the reapers squadron
@chant15165
@chant15165 4 года назад
So Cap, are you not able to change the hud color in DCS? it would make a big difference in being able to see things...
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Yes but can;t seem to do it in the plane.
@chant15165
@chant15165 4 года назад
Ahhh that suks...
@MAXsenna00
@MAXsenna00 4 года назад
In another SIM we have the option to put the visor down, and then the HUD is clear to see.
@drizzatkhan8900
@drizzatkhan8900 10 месяцев назад
PAF is a symbol of pride for the nation ❤
@MegaCrazyTuber
@MegaCrazyTuber 3 года назад
But if I know the name of the airport and bearing, how do I know which preset is the correct one without looking the map?
@dampsok
@dampsok 2 года назад
Hey Cap, That landing was APE!
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 4 года назад
I find it odd if it doesn't have autoland, thinking where it is going to operate and with the small fueltank.
@arrow_1416
@arrow_1416 4 года назад
Because it wouldn't be operating in Cat iiic conditions for commercial operations therefore regulation doesn't require it.
@fredh1201
@fredh1201 4 года назад
Does anyone know what SCA is, can’t seem to find anything that makes complete sense ..
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Tower talk down/remote control
@michaelweiss4842
@michaelweiss4842 4 года назад
Self controlled approach. Basically it's a vfr approach so the aircraft doesn't use any guidance
@NicoMavB
@NicoMavB 4 года назад
It's not possible to add manually a ILS full frequency (alone, as it is for TACAN) ? ILS must pass by DataCard ?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
I haven;t found a way to tune to ILS manually.
@Riverman68
@Riverman68 3 года назад
Does anyone know if something has changed within the JF-17 since this video was made? This suggests 20 Airfields should be visible within the DTC cartridge but I'm only getting 11 when i update?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 3 года назад
yes very possible.
@Riverman68
@Riverman68 3 года назад
@@grimreapers I'll do a bit more investigating. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. 👍
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 4 года назад
In Senaki it keeps sending me to the wrong runway (27 instead of 09). How do I change selected runways?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
I haven't figured that out sorry.
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 4 года назад
Grim Reapers Not your fault lol. Thanks for confirming it’s not just me being stupid. Deka has a video “Happy New Year ILS” where it seems they are able to change runways. My runway numbers are not only unchangeable, but wrong on MFCD (rwy 10 on Senaki). Hopefully they will fix it. Thanks! 👍🏻
@Stoffe3D
@Stoffe3D 4 года назад
Is there a way to change the runway heading? I mean if I want to land from the other direction?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
hmmm not that I have found
@MAXsenna00
@MAXsenna00 4 года назад
@Kristoffer Carlqvist Don't know how to do it i the JF-17, but I believe some of the airports has different ILS frequencies for different "end" of the runways.
@Rossiiii11
@Rossiiii11 4 года назад
Deka Ironworks ILS landing tutorial shows you how to switch FAF to the alternate runway ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6nTBBt_KLy4.html. Interestingly they use ILS not TACAN to get to the FAF then switch to runway
@nathanrankin8843
@nathanrankin8843 4 года назад
Commercial airplanes have this too right?
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 4 года назад
Yeah. And in this wheater they will use autoland. Actually, in this wheater, an airliner would not get permission to land without autoland.
@totoritko
@totoritko 4 года назад
Commercial aircraft have much more sophisticated systems than this :)
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 4 года назад
If the thing just had a decent HUD repeater with FPM and that AoA bracket instead of the cheap and silly EFIS taken from a bloody civilian plane... :D
@pakistantalks
@pakistantalks 4 года назад
Jf roxxx
@JuanPerez-co9nd
@JuanPerez-co9nd 4 года назад
Please, can you talk a little faster? is that the lesson is very slow :D
@garymyers6638
@garymyers6638 4 года назад
Hache?
@rudelchw
@rudelchw 4 года назад
First, Second, 3rd ... what are we? ten years old?
@MOTO809
@MOTO809 4 года назад
Is this steam or stand alone DCS?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
satnd alone
@totoritko
@totoritko 4 года назад
Wait, this is considered "good" and "modern" avionics? Not even an autopilot approach mode that'll follow the ILS down? Wow, even a pretty basic KAP140 autopilot in a Cessna 172 can do that.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
lol fair point!
@GamingWithHasty
@GamingWithHasty 4 года назад
It's still considered good and modern avionics for what it's intended to do, saying avionics are not good nor modern because the the autopilot will not follow the ILS down, is quite an obtuse statement. Have a look at the Mig-21Bis, it will fly down RSBN glideslope with autopilot.
@totoritko
@totoritko 4 года назад
@@GamingWithHasty "saying avionics are not good nor modern because , is quite an obtuse statement" lol, yeah, right...
@fredh1201
@fredh1201 4 года назад
Are you stating the jf-17 lacks modern avionics based on the DCS module, or actual research on the jf-17? I have not personally researched autopilot in a real 17, but I do know the jf-17 in game only has basic autopilot futures atm, (att hold, alt hold,) and deka plan to add more autopilot features before the end of EA. (If this includes a type of following ILS autopilot, idk, but probably)
@rumasen3957
@rumasen3957 3 года назад
Kachdha jahaj h... Ye
@raohassan6921
@raohassan6921 4 года назад
16 dislikes for abhenandan ☕☕☕☕
@Webbo011
@Webbo011 3 года назад
Very poor vid 🤣🙈 obviously the instruments ain’t that great
@D00kerT
@D00kerT 4 года назад
All that altitude/ DME intercept crap, scrap it. Just get to 3000 AGL, wait for the glide slope, and follow it down. If you don't have any charts, that's the safest and easiest way to fly an ILS in DCS.
@grinkle2521
@grinkle2521 4 года назад
Just be sure your on a clear glide slope first :P 3000ft AGL can dissapear FAST in hilly/mountainous environments like the cauc all the cauc fields at least have charts on kneeboards
@grinkle2521
@grinkle2521 4 года назад
(dont get me wrong, not shitting on your advice, just saying it does require you to be familiar with the airfield in question and the surrounding terrain)
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 4 года назад
@@grinkle2521 Glideslopes dont have mountains between faf and rwy. But glideslopes can be different. London City airport has a very steep glideslope. Innsbruck (Austria) has a "bend", so at a certain point you have to do course correction towards the rwy.
@Zarma4074
@Zarma4074 4 года назад
Trouble we dont have ILS codes for the runways so you need to use the system he explained. Going to FAF or not is your choice after that.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 4 года назад
Roger, but remember be careful if hilly terrain outside the FAF!
@kaibrown3414
@kaibrown3414 4 года назад
3rd
@simmo2327
@simmo2327 4 года назад
Poop? First
@radicalgamerdude2740
@radicalgamerdude2740 4 года назад
second
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