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JFK is the world’s 20th busiest by passenger movement, but the busiest in the world by aircraft movements. LGA is the 21st busiest in the United States.
These notoriously bad, under-equipped, way outdated airports will be much better in the future. Some of JFK's terminals are particularly bad, and this embarrassing, considering how important an airport it is. JFK: Cons: -Totally outdated Terminal 1 and 2, there are A380s on the regular there at T1. -Terminal 4 is better but it’s still not all that great and is a real mess, there aren’t enough A380 or widebody gates for the airlines that operate out of there (Emirates, Singapore, Etihad (not sure if the A380s from that airline are coming back)) -Terminal 5 is fine; but it’s mostly domestic -Terminal 7 is crap, way outdated and has no A380 gates for British Airways -Terminal 8, as big as it is feels a little old and outdated, and it won't have any gates for BA's A380 when they move in there. Pros- A whole new Terminal 1 is being built on the sites of the current Terminals 1, 2 and the former site of 3. This cannot come quick enough- the first phase is opening in 2026, and the rest of the terminal is opening in 2030. -Terminal 4 is getting an extension on it’s A side and will be connected to the new Terminal 1, so that Delta will consolidate its operations under one roof and can get extra space for the demolished T2. -A whole new terminal, Terminal 6, will be built alongside and connecting to Terminal 5. This will be a whole new international terminal to serve as the Yang to Terminal 5’s domestic operations. It will be built on the site of the soon-to-be-demolished Terminal 7. -Terminal 8 is getting extensions once BA, Iberia and other oneworld airlines move over there. LGA: Cons: -Where to start. All the current older terminals are old, dirty, cramped, moldy and are full of unfriendly staff- how can you blame the staff for being unfriendly when their working conditions are so s***? It took then-VP Joe Biden to make unflattering remarks about LaGuardia to get the local authorities to rebuild the airport. -Could use more international destinations, and the JFK-London City route should be transferred to LGA with a new customs facility. Pros: -LaGuardia Airport is being almost entirely rebuilt, and the new Terminal B has recently opened, and it is superb- completely different to the old terminals. These satellite concourses even have jet bridges that the airplanes pass under! The other terminals will open around 2025. EWR: Cons: -Appallingly bad, old and outdated Terminals A and B with AC that sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. Too many wide bodies around Terminal B leads to way more passengers than the terminal can handle. Pros: -The old Terminal A has been closed down and an all-new Terminal A is being built, that is apparently supposed to open sometime this year. -The old Terminal B is supposed to be closed down and a new Terminal B is supposed to be built over its demolished site. -Terminal C isn’t bad; this is the only acceptable airport terminal in NYC apart from JFK’s T5 and LGA’s TB. I've never been to or flown out of the other 3 big airports near NYC (Islip, Stewart Intl, White Plains), but Islip and Stewart Intl are fairly easy to get to, whereas White Plains... not so much.
@@peterquennellnyc Yes I did. But sliming? What I stated there is the truth. And it hurts. The point of that is just to inform. And right now NYC airports are just not good enough, but the parts that need to be rebuilt with new facilities are being rebuilt with new facilities.
@@hmdwgf I dont disagree but you seem to me your tone treads on your own very useful and well-informed message. My game is big systems development (UN) and you might consider looking at everything system by system. My experience after doing that in so many places is (1) the picture often becomes jaw-dropping and highly operationalizale; and (2) people are very rarely to blame. Politics being about systems of course.
@@peterquennellnyc I don't deny that the airport's systems and the people operating the airport are to blame. I feel sorry for them that they have to work in sub-par conditions and that there aren't more modern systems in place- have you seen the airports in the Middle and Far eastern countries? JFK should be at least near those facilities. It's just the general facilities themselves. They just aren't good enough.
@@hmdwgf Right. It's usually much easier to build anew than to upgrade systems, you might read the orig "Innovators Dilemma" for why. Systems are always nested, like airports in wider economy. If cost-benefit or value-added are really understood at higher levels the resources and systems upgrade will not be resisted. E & S Asia has done so well because they used the systems enhancement model from Japan - orig from the US!! Via Deming.
More "New-erk" with hardly a hesitation between the 2 syllables than single syllable "Nork". And yes, Newark, DE is pronounced "New Ark", but no one would know or care except the University of Delaware is located in Newark, DE.
Note that LaGuardia does not have a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility. They only have international fights from foreign airports with preclearance facilities.
False. LGA has a small CBP office and offers screenings to GA aircraft. They do not have a facility in terminals, and thus are not available to scheduled flights.
@afcgeo I didn't know that they had that on Saturdays. I've thought that in general, going at least as far back as the 1970s, LGA is mostly domesric US flights and JFK is mostly international flights, but has a small amount of domestic too. But most domestic is out of LGA, it's why most people coming from elsewhere in the US fly to LGA unless they're stopping over to make an international connection. Many other cities have a good mixture of domestic and international at their main airport, such as Chicago O'Hare or LAX. But New York and Washington DC are the two cities which have one mainly domestic and then one mainly international airport, DC's being Reagon National and Dulles
@@azan-183 I live in DC! I have to admit I have lots of hate for Iad/Dca as DCA traffic it insane luckily there renovation is going to be done around july while Dulles has barely any shops for anyone dropping people off..
Here's a great story about JFK. A few years ago my wife was traveling home via JFK on American and left her laptop back in the ladies restroom. She didn't notice until she was almost on the plane and rushed back to find it gone. As her flight was leaving she had no choice but to head home without it. That evening I called American Airline security at Terminal one and not only did they answer the phone immediately but they managed to find her lost bag and were extremely helpful in getting it back to us. They were fantastic and I wish every airport had people like the wonderful ones at American at JFK!
Unfortunately, that is the only time I have ever heard American be helpful towards their customers. I'm sure there are plenty of great people working there tho!
@@scottydude456 Frankly I've had few customer support issues ever that have been dealt with so quickly and politely. It wasn't just a good experience but a great one. I should also thank the unknown person who turned the bag in as well.
I arrived at JFK from a flight from California and mistakenly left my Bose headphones in the seatback pouch. I realized this once I reached baggage claim. I was told the cabin crew went to look for them but no luck. Hmm....
@@brmnyc The cleaners could have already removed them. Usually the cleaning crew goes in almost immediately after the passengers depart. Or they could have been missed and not found until a few flights down the line.
EWR is usually the more accessible airport to people living outside NYC because you don’t have to cross the Verazano and go down the jam-packed Belt Pkwy. However, whether it’s worth going to EWR or JFK depends on the price and availability of flights, so both airports are equally as busy.
Two things of note about Newark: They were also the departure airport for United Airlines Flight 93 on September 11th. This is the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania and although only 44 people died, it is probably a more notable tragedy. On a lighter note, Newark is also a much larger base for non-NYC travel. No one who lives outside of the five boroughs or is just visiting NYC would ever use either of those airports willingly because NYC traffic is a nightmare.
Not sure about the first comment about getting to LGA via public transportation being easy. Perhaps when a train link is built it will be. But when you compare it to getting anywhere in NYC then, yes it could be said that it is realtively easy.
Interesting that in the conclusion of this video you mentioned the Steinway family's connection with the land that eventually became LaGuardia Airport. The Steinway piano factory is still to this day located just a few blocks west of the field, not far from the end of Runway 4.
I'm surprised that I didn't hear any mention of LaGuardia's days as a marine terminal for Pan Am's flying boats of the 1930's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_314_Clipper
I don't know how LaGuardia got the 'first new U.S. airport in 25 years' statistic, but it is entirely not true. They are claiming that they are the first new airport in the united states since Denver International airport opened in the 90s, which is untrue for three reasons a. The new LaGuardia is not entirely new, it is just a rebuilt terminal, using existing runways and terminal A is staying As is. Whereas Denver was built from scratch where there was no airport before. b. If that is the definition of 'New airport' then The completely new terminal at New Orleans's airport, which opened last year, would be the airport LaGuardia would be the first new airport since. c. Even if LaGuardia was being built from scratch, the Last one was not Denver. In 2009, Panama City, FL opened a new airport where there was none before, and likewise in 2015, in Williston, North Dakota.
@Ron D Panama city, FL opened a completely new airport in 2010, and Williston, ND, did similarly in 2019. Auston Bergrstrom was also not completely new, because it was on the site of a former Air Force Base.
@Ron D An airport is any place to operate airplanes. Any AFB that has runways is an airport, by any definition. A Military airport, to be sure, and perhaps not available to non military airplanes except in emergencies, but an airport nonetheless. Commercial service has nothing to do with whether a site is or is not an airport. If the former Bergstrom AFB was demilitarized and became a commercial airport, that does not make it a NEW airport, except in the sense of new service. The infrastructure was already there, for the most part. At best, it would be in the category of the new LGA - ie, a new terminal.
newark is easy to drive to at least. It's a quick 10-15 minute drive for me. Traffic is always, always worse going to La Guardia or JFK, even on their slow days.
Loving the short airport documentaries. I know it is not specifically about the airports themselves, the complicated ATC coordination of the 3 NYC airports is very interesting.
I’m a native New Yorker who resides in the garden state I despise going to the big Apple , when there’s an airport right here basically in my backyard‼️🤷🏽♂️
You failed to mention that NJT connects Newark Penn and NY Penn station to Newark Airport. US 1&9, US 22, and NJ 21 also highways that directly serve Newark airport.
@@AgathaLOutahere Only standing room on NJ Transit, no luggage space. As EWR is in Joizey the Uber, Lyft, and taxi fare from New York is almost triple!!! Who goes to Newark Penn Station other than horrible vagrants and criminals???? Newark airport is inhabited by awful smelly people from Joizey. Nice people stay in New York's airports!
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 They got a lot of startup funding and tax breaks to setup a hub at JFK because for domestic flights, people favored LGA (for some reason) and JFK was only being used for long haul (West Coast) and International, so the state encouraged a LCC startup to create a hub at JFK so people would start using it more (this was before a lot of the Terminal renovation at the AA and DL terminals, the airport was suffering from a 1960s design, jetBlue used the old TWA terminal and the old IM Pei National Airline terminal before they created Terminal 5 around the old TWA shell). Also, part of the tax deal was that jetBlue had to have jet flights to Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany to connect to the JFK hub to restore lost her service over the years. I also think they included Burlington, VT in that so that people from Plattsburgh, NY could use it.
It’s weird how he didn’t mention TWA 800, which exploded after takeoff from JFK in July of 1996, heading to Paris. As a 10-year-old, I remember seeing TV footage of that when it happened.
TWA 800 (and also the EgyptAir 767) crashed much farther away from the airport than the flights mentioned at the end of the video. For whatever reasons, they are not usually associated with the airport itself.
@@johannesbols57 Only close in terms of time, at jet speeds (or at least at 250 knots most of the way). TWA 800 was well into its' enroute climb, and that portion of a flight is not usually associated with the airport, nor did the airport have anything to do with the crash. The area where it went down was nearly 70 miles from JFK.
JFK has a number of notable incident besides TWA 800 and EgyptAir 990, their was also Swiss Air flight SR 111 in 1998 which is an MD 11 that suffered an in-flight fire which nose dive on Peggy’s Cove, Nova Scotia with the lost of 229 passengers and crew, is another infamous flight that departed from JFK. Their are also arrivals like the 1960 New York Mid-air collision between a United DC-8 inbound to Idelwild Airport (JFK name at the time) and a TWA Lockheed Super Constellation bound for LaGuardia with 134 fatalities from both collisions and 6 on the ground, another is Eastern Airlines flight 66 in 1975 a Boeing 727 which crash on approach to runway 22 due to Microburst with 113 fatalitie and 11 survivors, which was investigated by the NTSB and Meteorologists most notably Ted Fujita which crated the F scale for tornado rating and help raise the awareness of Microburst and its dangers to low flying planes. The last crash I know of was and Avianca flight 52 a Boeing 707-321B the crash at Cove Neck, Long Island which after suffering a fuel starvation after doing a missed approach to JFK with 73 fatalities and 85 survivors from both crew and passengers in 1990.
LaGuardia is a newly recent renovated airport and now looks very modern. Terminal b and c look very modern. I think LaGuardia is the best out of those three.
The new renovation of the new terminals are a success, but the flights are still regional. If I were in NYC, I'd rather use LGA for domestic and nearby internatio al flights. As for long distance, JFK and EWR are both world class, but JFK is my best pick. Lastly, I can't pick Newark, even though they already made tbe new Terminal A that replaces the old one which is a nice change for EWR.
Don’t forget that Newark was also part of the 9/11 attacks with one united airlines flight that never made it to it destination and La Guardia also had US airways flight 1549 that miraculously everyone survived and landed at the Hudson River
The November 12, 2001 crash was so close to the 9/11 attacks that to this day some locals believe it was a terrorist attack. Great video by the way, I'm glad I found this channel. I have a video recommendation: Boston College vs Boston University (and Northeastern is also very comparable to those two)
@@kyb3709 Per the NTSB report, the blame lay not with the FO, but with AA, which trained its pilots to use (overly) aggressive rudder inputs to counteract wake turbulence on the A300. I think they also placed a bit of blame on Airbus for leaving too much to the airlines vis-à-vis training on the type, but I may be misremembering that.
1:23 You forgot something more about accessing to the airports. US 1-9 have an interchange connecting to all 3 terminals of EWR. The Belt Pkwy passes by JFK.
If you're going to/from Manhattan, Newark is by far the most convenient. You can be from terminal to Penn Station in 45 minutes or less if you time it right. Newark is also most convenient for upstate NY and Connecticut as you can bypass NYC altogether. JFK is more convenient for Brooklyn and outer Long Island. LGA is most convenient for Queens and the Bronx.
LaGuardia works perfectly fine for what it was designed for. You can check your luggage, board a flight, and jet away to your desired location. What's changed is our expectations of what an airport should be. We now expect airports to be shopping malls and day spa's.
Except most of the time your luggage gets lost, you can't board your flight because it's delayed due to poor design, and miss your connecting flight. Also airports being shopping malls isn't because we've become more accustomed to it, it's because airports make money that way, which in turn leads to reinvestment and better service and smoother flight operations with less delays. It's not a 'sometimes the old ways are best' things, it's a 'bougie airports are functionally better airports'.
@@anthonydpearson To say that most of the time your luggage gets lost at LaGuardia is a ridiculous exaggeration. As for actual flight operations, very little can be done to improve that at LGA - the airport has only 2 runways, intersecting at 90 degrees, and no room to build another.
@@syramento You're wrong. The new LGA is VASTLY better because they built a giant overpass for pedestrians to the new terminals, which allows planes to travel underneath. This reduces traffic on the tarmac, leading to less delays and much smoother operations and OTP, since what was effectively a one way road before now gives planes a second route to get to the gate. And all this was funded with the money from the new shopping malls in the new airport that you deride.
@@anthonydpearson LaGuardia has always had 2 or more taxiways to the runways except for runway 22, which only has taxiway R for a full-length departure. Runway 13 has taxiways P & G (plus more if the aircraft cross 4-22 further down), runway 4 has B & AA, and runway 31 has A & B. Of course, the more taxiways the more places to park aircraft that can't get to the gate for some reason (usually because the gate is occupied), making life easier for the Tower. The real problem is the lack of parallel runways. LaGuardia's most efficient operation is departing runway 13 with all climb-outs while landing runway 22. In that configuration both arriving and departing aircraft have the shortest travel distance to the runway intersection, which allows for a tighter operation. By contrast, when departing runway 31, runway 22 arrivals have to be spaced further apart to allow room for departures in-between arrivals. Departing runway 4 while landing runway 31 has room to fudge spacing because the arrivals have a lot of runway before reaching the intersection, but in that configuration the Expressway Approach is usually being used. The Expressway Approach is the most challenging for the Tower because of the need to control the pattern. The other dual-runway operations fall in-between what I've already mentioned in terms of operation efficiency. The least efficient operation is whenever the airport has to operate off a single runway (such as high winds or runway closure for de-rubberizing). Departures have to be squeezed out between arrival on the same strip, naturally delaying departures because arrivals always the right-of-way. There is a reason flight operations are slot-controlled at LaGuardia. There is a limit to how many airplanes can be safely moved per hour with the limited runways, and the airport operates right up to that limit most hours of the day (excepting 11 pm to 7 am). All it takes is one hiccup to throw the operation into delay hell, regardless of the available taxiways or pedestrian walkways.
@@anthonydpearson thats awesome stuff More airports around the world need to adopt this Worst thing is your plane arrives in one terminal but u have to get to the farthest terminal for the connecting one while getting your luggage
2:21 jeez that angle made it look like that uniteds horizontal stabilizer has a winglet. Now that i have that imagine engraved in my head i cant stop thinking of how weird that would look on both stabilizers and the wings LOL
3:00 LGA is a disaster! Too many traffic jams to make it to your flight. I avoid it like the plague. Best is Newark. Unless you live in Queens or Long Island, Newark is the easiest airport to get to.
LaGuardia doesn’t have that weird circular thing anymore and old looking buildings and dark lighted placed and low ceilings with very dirty floors. Now as of 2022 LaGuardia is bright very clean open spaces modern Lounges easy to navigate indoor trees open spaces and has many shopping spaces and a huge water feature. The airport even won a unesco award.
Thanks for this video! I was looking for videos about La Guardia's renovations when I cam across your video after watching James Asquith's video regarding the same topic! Amazing! Good luck on your next video, by the way!
Having been to all 3, I can appreciate how clean and modern EWR is. Every seat has a little touchscreen for games, internet, and ordering food.... all for a cost. But for such a massive airport, food options are terrible. When you walk through the terminal, you see..bar...bar...liquor store...bar...liquor store...bar...bar, hudson. I walked around for an hour and could not find something as simple as a coffee, not to mention anything resembling fast food (ie pizza, chinese, burgers, etc). Its too bad, because EWR has the most pleasant, and simple trip into NYC. But when I have a layover for anything more then 2 hours, I'll leave and to get something to eat
A couple of things. Newark is also popular because it is cheaper to fly from going to the same destination. The lower airport taxes trickle down to the ticket price. JetBlue has its main hub at JFK as well. JFK was tied in the customer satisfaction survey for 4th place and I like that airport the most out of the 3.
Uh, no, people in the metro area don't see themselves as separate. The metro area is named after NYC, not New York *state.* Northern NJ identifies with NYC. And southern NJ hates the north, and wants to disassociate from northern NJ and NYC. Besides, all 3 airports are jointly managed by the states of NY and NJ (the Port Authority of NY and NJ).
@@rogerlewis196 The Port Authority of NY & NJ runs the three airports. They're all the same entity. No one thinks "oh that's Jersey". Staten Island and Rockland Co NY are closest to EWR. EWR is also the most convenient for Lower Manhattan.
@@joeb5080 yes, we DEFINITELY see ourselves as separate. North NJ does associate w/ NYC, but we understand our own sphere (and NYers love reminding us too, until they want to look good lol)
Just remember one thing, before ALL the commercial airports came to town, NEWARK airport was the FIRST commercial airport in the world, and has been in the biz way before any of the rest were built, including JFK and LAG. The OG Commercial Airport: NEWARK LIBERTY
La Guardia was once regarded as the Spirit airlines of airports. I've used it for 5 consecutive years and OMG what a fucking nightmare. At least it's upgraded now.
Crash course is a bad term to use with aviation. BUT just like comparing USPS, UPS, Fedex and DHL in the package shipment industry, there is no point in comparing JFK, LGA and Newark for New York City airports. Airtravel in/out of NYC could not exist without all 3. And don't forget the role Teterboro and White Plains (Westchester) play in airtravel in the NYC area. Useless comparison.
As a Newark native, most people don't realize that its easier to get to the city from Newark because the Belt and the Van Wyck are parking lots. A much smaller parking lot would be one of the tunnels or the GWB. Or if you're rich, just go to Teterboro and avoid the madness altogether.🤦🏾♂️🤣
The first commercial airport in NYC was, in fact, Floyd Bennet Field, not LaGuardia. It was opened to commercial traffic on May 23, 1931. American Airlines operated out of Floyd Bennett until LGA was built in 1939.
Hizzoner Fiorello himself pulled the stunt that led to the development of LGA. He was traveling to "New York" (using, of course, Newark airport), and when he arrived he refused to deplane, declaring that his ticket read "New York". This was factually true, since the airlines considered EWR to be the airport for NY (which it was). But hizzoner had already alerted the press ahead of time, and the airline ( I think it was TWA) decided to fly him over to Floyd Bennet, which at that time was actually a military field in Brooklyn. This stunt got the publicity ball rolling and the rest is history!
@@anthonyvallillo422 You’re partially correct. This happened in 1934 and he ended up flying into Floyd Bennett after Newark, but Floyd Bennett was a municipal airport at the time. It only became a Naval Air Station on June 2, 1941.
So, why does Salt Lake City International not count as the "first new major airport in the United States in more than 25 years?" Both LaGuardia and SLC completely rebuilt their entire passenger terminals. And both rebuilds were heavily funded by Delta Air Lines. So if these projects are the same in scope, why isn't SLC first if it opened n 2020?
Actually, the first completely new airport in the USA since DFW is the new KDEN. Everything else since DFW is merely an expansion or a rebuild, usually of only the terminals (albeit the terminals are all that most passengers see). As far as LGA is concerned, many pilots would like to see the runway system completely rebuilt, although this is pure wishful thinking - it can never happen.
I'd love to see an update now that LGA's update is just about finished and JFK's is well underway. I wonder how the new facilities will compare to each other as well as nationally and worldwide.
JFK and LGA are far too close to each other. I wonder given that they are so close does that how many runways the airports can use at a time as well as the size of the planes. It would be good if airports were at least 15 nautical miles from each other. Having trains, subways or AirTran to get to airports would be good.
Back in the 2000s my parents went on a flight to Santiago de Los Caballeros (also in the Dominican Republic) and the American Airlines plane was struggling to go up because of the weight of luggage, I’m so glad they didn’t crash!
@@AlvinSeville1 😂😂 No, I have seen connecting flights and I wonder if they use a CRJ or like an older Dash-8. I went from LGA to PHL quite a few years ago and I was on a Dash-8. Last time I went from ISP-BOS it was a Dash-8.
0:50 lol east, my ass! have you ever actually tried to take the A train from Manhattan to JFK??? It takes forever! If you want to make your flight, you’re better off taking an Uber.