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JHS Muffuletta, Thorpy Muffroom Cloud, Vintage Big Muff & More! 

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In this episode we're feeling all fuzzy about Big Muff-style pedals.
Daniel and Mick compare an original late-60s/early 70s Electro-Harmonix 'Triangle' Big Muff with later/newer offerings…
• Electro Harmonix late-70s 'op-amp' Big Muff
• Electro Harmonix current Nano Big Muff
• Frantone Peachfuzz
• Green Carrot Pedal Company Pumpkin Pi
• Mojo Hand FX Iron Bell Fuzz
• Tym Guitars Fuzz Munchkin
• Tym Guitars Big Mudd
• JHS Muffuletta
• ThorpyFX Muffroom Cloud
The guys are playing a Gibson Custom Les Paul Standard 1958 and a Fender American Vintage 1962 Stratocaster through a Marshall JTM45 head into a 2x12 cabinet with Celestion G12H-30 Anniversary speakers, and (very briefly) a Two-Rock Studio Pro 35 and Zilla custom 1x12 cabinet with a Celestion G12H-75 Creamback.
As ever, TheGigRig G2 is handling amp and effects switching effortlessly.
Enjoy this video, and thank you for watching!
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Комментарии : 313   
@bronzeageancientone4844
@bronzeageancientone4844 4 года назад
The JHS Muffaletta covers pretty much everything I need.
@tobyissac9432
@tobyissac9432 2 года назад
Instablaster...
@centauriatacama1794
@centauriatacama1794 2 года назад
Ya, I'm there. From grunge distortion to violin sustain. I don't think people understand how good of a chugger the Ram's Head is too LMFAO
@Astral_Wave
@Astral_Wave 2 года назад
So weird coming back to old episodes... the room reverb, background voices lol. They've come a long way. Congratulating on your success with the show guys!
@Tfrne
@Tfrne 3 года назад
The condition of that original triangle Big Muff is unbelievable. It looks like it just came out of the box.
@Russell1982
@Russell1982 2 года назад
I’d love to see you guys do a new Big Muff video comparing the recent (ish) EHX reissues to the originals.
@walkinginharmony
@walkinginharmony 8 лет назад
I love The Pedal Show! You guys have a very natural way of getting things across and with a sense of humour too! I have learned SO much about gain, eq curves and placement and now actually understand WHY something works with a certain amp and why it doesn't with others. Invaluable! I have my popcorn and 6 pack ready and am just about to press play. Awesome!
@tonepursuit7110
@tonepursuit7110 8 лет назад
30 minutes of you guys... oh this will be a treat! Thank you!
@thesunabsolute
@thesunabsolute 8 лет назад
Who knew Mick could play Stoner Rock so well? Amazing episode as always!
@ryanleone3007
@ryanleone3007 5 лет назад
The days when you guys had to share a patch cable; how far you've come.
@healykieran
@healykieran 8 лет назад
Great to have ye back guys!!! Very interesting episode, was never really into fuzzes but my god that Thorpy Muffroom Cloud is awesome!!! Got very excited when i saw the two rock in the background!!! its my dream amp that I'm slowly saving away for! Well done again Gents!
@diamonddad3059
@diamonddad3059 2 года назад
Exactly what I was looking for. Perfect fuzz off. Thank you, gentlemen!
@cabbage9398
@cabbage9398 8 лет назад
As one of the people who was clamouring for a show about Muffs, I'd like to say thanks very much guys! Loved it.
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 7 лет назад
I was - Dead Set - Against Fuzz/Muff Pedals, as they were all Too Woofy, Too Bassy and Sounded like Bees in a Can. Today I received my Thorpy Fallout Cloud. O.M.G. It Sounds even- Better (in person) = Sustain for days . . . (think) Santana & Gilmour, Tony Iommi . . . by far - the Best Muff Pedal - I have heard. I Love It. Sounds Amazing.
@stuartnarduzzo4868
@stuartnarduzzo4868 8 лет назад
Really enjoyed this one guys! Glad the show is back!! :)
@eduardoseabra5285
@eduardoseabra5285 4 года назад
You guys need to make another video on the Big Muff! It's been a while since this one. Love from Brazil!
@NielsBeier
@NielsBeier 8 лет назад
Loved this! Thanks guys - bought the Big Muff Nano because of this! :)
@Loxx_Sustainar
@Loxx_Sustainar 8 лет назад
I don't know how I only just discovered your channel guys, but I've been a watching and you are both very entertaining and very informative to watch!
@M1ck1970
@M1ck1970 8 лет назад
Great show.....The best yet keep up the good work.
@michaela9817
@michaela9817 8 лет назад
So happy you guys are back "on the air"!
@Kevin-the-Just
@Kevin-the-Just 4 года назад
Thorpy Muffroom Cloud section starts at 23:36. Sounds at 24:30.
@harrysachs2274
@harrysachs2274 3 года назад
Look at these two scammers^^^^
@harrysachs2274
@harrysachs2274 3 года назад
Thanks for the heads up. I just got a "fallout cloud". The "muffroom" was too expensive unfortunately. Still, fucking love the pedal.
@the-np4mr
@the-np4mr Год назад
OK?
@KyleByquist
@KyleByquist 8 лет назад
Good god that Thorpy pedal is absolutely phenomenal... That sustain!!!! Buying one ASAP
@brianpatrick6102
@brianpatrick6102 8 лет назад
Ah Big Muffery. Ive had so many over the years, I feel like Hef at times. My personal favs are: Stomp Under Foot's Civil War, Arc Effects Big Green Pi v1 and Mojo Hand's Collossus. Great showing, guys.
@11wario11
@11wario11 8 лет назад
Really needed that, updating the wish list. Thanks guys
@mrsockmonkey1969
@mrsockmonkey1969 7 лет назад
I want to hug Daniel for some strange reason. He just looks very huggable.
@punchyouintheeyeball
@punchyouintheeyeball 4 года назад
Never really cared for Fuzzes until hearing the ThorpyFX Fallot Cloud. Bought one a few months ago that changed my perspective on Fuzz pedals. Amazing definition but you can still get that tearing Velcro sound also. I’ve never heard such articulation from a Fuzz. Well worth the price!
@davidhunter3762
@davidhunter3762 8 лет назад
Great episode Dan and Mick :-)
@nsiepmann
@nsiepmann 8 лет назад
Some GREAT sounds in here - especially Mick's single coils! My favourite (so far) at least is the triangle (although I love the super stonery sound of the both-channel Pumpkin Pi!).
@PBOD
@PBOD 6 лет назад
Wow just watching over some old episodes (because im soooo sad like that) and its crazy how the changes have seemed so subtle but wow the difference is stark. Well done guys!
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 6 лет назад
Pedalboards of Doom cheers mate :)
@MrTrenttownrock
@MrTrenttownrock 8 лет назад
Muff-Mania!!! You guys are great!!
@DansGuitarCorner888
@DansGuitarCorner888 8 лет назад
Fantastic video! Thanks!
@nickstone3042
@nickstone3042 8 лет назад
That was great Dan, really did give me what I needed to make an informed choice. Was gonna bid on a vintage 78 ehx muff but think I'm going to have to go somewhere and try both the muffeletta and the muffroomcloud cuz the both blew me away , cheers guy's
@ifenceltd5395
@ifenceltd5395 8 лет назад
WOOP ITS FRIDAY!!! Its A MUFF Party!! Thx for the show!
@ransombaggins9301
@ransombaggins9301 4 года назад
This may be one of the best videos for hearing some differences between the Fender Strat and the Les Paul. They both sound great and offer unique tones, but dang...those humbuckers really shine on the fuzz.
@hafstrat
@hafstrat 8 лет назад
Loving this. Thankyou.
@heMANshred
@heMANshred 7 лет назад
That pumpkin pi is killerrrrrr
@MrKiammi
@MrKiammi 8 лет назад
Love love love This episode! Hope you Will do one Like This , But with tubescreamers :)
@espinela
@espinela 8 лет назад
You made my day! THANKS
@andersnilsson1317
@andersnilsson1317 8 лет назад
Pumkin Pi for me thanks. Love that breakin up everything sound.
@xchump
@xchump 8 лет назад
Man that Muffroom Cloud sounds amazing!
@MichaelMcGlynns
@MichaelMcGlynns 4 года назад
Look how YOUNG they were!
@calthmlikiseethm704
@calthmlikiseethm704 8 лет назад
Love the Peachfuzz..... Have used it for years...
@harryprior5655
@harryprior5655 8 лет назад
Love it!
@sixbladeknife44
@sixbladeknife44 7 лет назад
The original Triangle, Thorpy and Tyms own the rest of them!
@danieldimartino3254
@danieldimartino3254 6 лет назад
this video feels like it was taped in 1985. so much That Pedal Show evolution in just a couple years!
@obhmusic
@obhmusic 8 лет назад
HAHA, how many times have Daniel not been able to pick a favorite?? "It's really hard, I love them all".. Classic!! :D
@CharcoaI
@CharcoaI 8 лет назад
Woop! New episode
@lettherebemorelight
@lettherebemorelight 3 года назад
Isley brothers!!!!!!! Nice! Wow will always notice the muff tone there now thanks for that
@moonstation8585
@moonstation8585 7 лет назад
I feel EXACTLY the same when I hear that Mick! ( @ 3:59 ) LOL!
@pCeLobster
@pCeLobster 2 года назад
So heartwarming that since this video was made EHX have taken back the Big Muff and now produce some of the best muffs at any price. It's the people's fuzz once again.
@generationhardcore
@generationhardcore 8 лет назад
I wanted the muffeletta now I want the Thorpy ... or both, or three of each.
@intrsoul
@intrsoul 8 лет назад
No Earthquaker Devices Hoof?! :/
@AZFunk
@AZFunk 8 лет назад
Someone mentioned this earlier...definitely would have liked to see the Swollen Pickle in the mix since it pops up so often here in the States. But loved the show...gonna' have to get my hands on a Thorpy or JHS soon.
@protakill
@protakill 8 лет назад
Loved this episode guys! Muff diving is beautiful!!!
@seancelli3092
@seancelli3092 8 лет назад
Daniel..causing me to spend money again. Great review guys
@joepisciottajr5841
@joepisciottajr5841 8 лет назад
Glad you did this one on Fuzz. I'm on the fence about this subject. I don't own any pedals and watch this show for research. Currently I use Guitar Rig 5 through my Home Studio monitors and recording obviously. I'm in the market for amp and pedals for live gigs. Thanks Guys, your show is awesome! James Bay is my favorite episode.
@bossesg1
@bossesg1 Год назад
just a couple of guys doing a deep muff dive, so many muffs so little time.
@andresortiz6
@andresortiz6 8 лет назад
Dan have you ever played wren and cuff pedals? That pumpkin one was the surprise for me!
@alguitarchristie
@alguitarchristie Год назад
So happy I managed to swap an old Holy Grail reverb for a Thorpy Muffroom cloud today! It was a pedal i hadn't used for 9 years, just collecting dust! Then I saw them going for 150 dollars on Reverb so I chanced my luck, can't wait to go to the studio now!
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel Год назад
The Muffroom is awesome 🤩
@travistalkington9297
@travistalkington9297 8 лет назад
The muffroom cloud is the best sounding fuzz I've ever heard
@harrysachs2274
@harrysachs2274 3 года назад
It's a fantastic piece of kit. Super articulate, the EQ makes it really stand out. It can even be used as an overdrive. Very versatile. And the build quality cannot be beat. Thorpy is probably my favorite pedal maker right now.
@prufesuroak
@prufesuroak 8 лет назад
that Muffroom Cloud sounds very very close to my v7 black russian, my personal favorite
@MatthewLim
@MatthewLim 8 лет назад
Thought triangle was gonna be the winner the whole way ... Muffuletta won that with its smaller size and similar sounds. Thorpy won that with just being the best by far.
@tomattah_
@tomattah_ 6 лет назад
3:37 - 3:51 sold the pedal. Thank you!
@chitaristu88
@chitaristu88 8 лет назад
I am a fan of Mick's playing style ever since i saw a demo on the Guitarist channel. His American Vintage just sounds like something else (that's my next guitar). As for you, Daniel, you are legit if you use the Grolsh rubber rings to secure the strap. I did that the first time i opened a Grolsh beer. Great players think alike. Cheers to you and great video btw.
@MusicMan642
@MusicMan642 8 лет назад
Thanks Dan and Mick for getting to the muffs finally. They say no two muff circuits were they same they all vary slightly not unlike Marshalls from the 70s. And for the record the Rams Head is the best muff circuit lol ;)
@Tanzi24
@Tanzi24 8 лет назад
Sold! Need to get me a Muffroom!
@BlueSkyDogs
@BlueSkyDogs Год назад
Legends! After searching for this episode after watching the bonzai episode again! I could not believe that it was this long ago!! It's on my list, maybe even first......still. B
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel Год назад
Cheers mate, yeah, so much has changed
@thatmechanicguy8773
@thatmechanicguy8773 7 лет назад
Videos like this need a love button instead of just a thumbs up. Big Muff's are awesome!
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 7 лет назад
+Michael Guess-me yeah they are :)
@erikbrena62
@erikbrena62 5 лет назад
I really enjoy watching your videos. I thought your brief history of Muffs was a bit spotty. You didn't mention the two transistor Muff Fuzz that started it all. You also didn't mention the Rams Head Muff that came after the Triangle and precedes the NYC op-amp vs.. Minor details, and as always, I really enjoy your pedal demo/comparisons. Cheers!
@CammojoDragon97
@CammojoDragon97 7 лет назад
Half the time, when I hear a fuzz tone I love, some kind of Big Muff is being used! The only exceptions to that I'm aware of are Eric Johnson and Hendrix, everyone else seems to be using some kind of Muff or clone thereof
@bigleemac
@bigleemac 8 лет назад
Pumpkin Pi rules all \m/
@stilwel
@stilwel 8 лет назад
Billy Corgan, Jack White, Black Keys, David Gilmour and Dinosaur Jr all have created unique, definitive Big Muff tones using different versions (eras) of the pedal (OpAmp, NYC, Green Russian, Civil War & Ram's Head respectively).
@iananderson12796
@iananderson12796 7 лет назад
stilwel not to mention what Duane Allman did with his big muff
@OzziePete1
@OzziePete1 7 лет назад
Annie Clark of St. Vincent has a whole song dedicated to it.
@grant5603
@grant5603 7 лет назад
stilwel his tone was still mostly the Super Bass with the muff used as a bit of a boost wasn't it?
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 лет назад
Gilmour used Ram's Head i thought?
@DaveThomson
@DaveThomson 6 лет назад
He started with a Silicon Fuzz Face
@GK-mm3nz
@GK-mm3nz 8 лет назад
Ohh....missed you guys. *blushes
@-b0j-
@-b0j- 8 лет назад
Great show as always Guys. Dan, is the Muffuletta sensitive to where it sits in your pedal chain?
@45calypso
@45calypso 8 лет назад
Fantastic sounds Guys. My favourite was the Peach fuzz ( are fuzzes different to Muffs ? …. with regards to pedals I mean ! ). Also did I detect Mick playing a bit of Hendrix at the 21 min mark ? ( Radio 1, live at the BBC ).
@davidg4726
@davidg4726 4 года назад
The Big Muff OP amp works Great for me!
@rafsbio
@rafsbio 8 лет назад
Great episode, as always Dan! Despite being a Gilmour fan, I never got along with muffs. As I always gravitates towards fender guitars and amps, my experience has always being disappearing among cymbals and bass guitar (or perhaps like adding a second bass guitar). I do have a Danelectro Cool Cat Fuzz gen 1, which is a cheap (but remarkably similar) copy if the Peach Fuzz. Although it's obviously a mid-scooped fuzz, I didn't know it could be considered a Muff variation. In terms of circuitry, would you consider the Peach Fuzz the most different of them all, or is it indeed just another Big Muff?
@zhou_sei
@zhou_sei 5 лет назад
that thorpy certainly is nice. i liked the o.g. triangle second best.
@AngelarmSpartan777
@AngelarmSpartan777 5 лет назад
Put some glasses on!!! You're freaking me out, man. : )
@nodfactor8808
@nodfactor8808 6 лет назад
Whoah! First time seeing Dan sans specs!
@grahamkelly8299
@grahamkelly8299 3 года назад
Can you guys please revisit the muff thing? ? There are so many version and I cant decide
@iamkennymartin
@iamkennymartin 8 лет назад
Iron bell was my personal fav
@RenanBeltrao
@RenanBeltrao 8 лет назад
I really missed the Blackarts Fuzzes in this episode, they are the nastiest fuzzes around
@NICKHAM16
@NICKHAM16 8 лет назад
When you think of Big Muffs you think of the Foo Fighters? Do they even use fuzz? I thought he was going to say Dinosaur Jr. or Smashing Pumpkins. When I think of op-amp muff, I immediately think of J Mascis and Billy Corgan (hence the reason why they both have fuzz copies on that board).
@leiscwf
@leiscwf 8 лет назад
On occasion they use fuzz but I would definitely say they're more of a distortion based band. Fuzz is QOTSA
@leiscwf
@leiscwf 8 лет назад
They're DEFINITELY fuzz but use it it a more modern way as all of the other bands you mentioned stick to the roots of that genre.
@natepopodi4770
@natepopodi4770 8 лет назад
+NICKHAM16 A lot of the first FooF album is pretty muff heavy. Dave used it more as a distortion pedal than a fuzz. Lower gain and pretty open tone.
@threemilesmile6011
@threemilesmile6011 8 лет назад
+Nate Popodi I have read that Grohl used a turbo rat. It does sound like a rat to me, but rats sound like big muffs sometimes.
@natepopodi4770
@natepopodi4770 8 лет назад
+three mile smile that's a more recent development from what I've heard
@periloustemple8290
@periloustemple8290 4 года назад
That Iron Bell is that track Sorrow on Momentary Lapse of Reason, but that track was actually David's rig cranked in a live venue and recorded that way. He would have been using various compressors and either the Boogie Studio Pre (or a Mark IV head) as a gain "pedal" - and somehow was able to get his kind of thing from the Boss HM-2. But as you say, there's usually a lot going on around his use of the Muff's. I have seen 3 boss eq's that look like they are set for boost low, boost mid, boost hi. He would have used combinations based on mood, room, how the amps were behaving, etc. He is one more great who seems so effortless, but is like Edge from U2: running a small space station from his feet.
@deathvalleyjoyride
@deathvalleyjoyride 8 лет назад
I thought the Muffuletta was the worst of the lot. Muffroom Cloud is the dog's bollox. WOW! Vick Audio '73 Ram's Head should have been included in this. great demo for sure.
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 7 лет назад
That Triangle sounds so good, I want to get the Blackout Effectors twosome partly to be able to get some many fuzz tones from one pedal on my board (rather then cramming heaps of pedals onto it) but Im afraid the musket cant get close to the sound of triangle muff for that gilmour sound
@Telecoaster
@Telecoaster 8 лет назад
Great show ;-) Is that a 2061CX cab? Original speakers?
@zabriskieband
@zabriskieband 7 лет назад
Please do a show with the (new) Big Muff Deluxe by EHX!
@CaptPostmod
@CaptPostmod 8 лет назад
I'm glad to hear you saying the Nano Big Muff isn't quite up to it. I bought one on a bit of impulse a year or two ago and just didn't like it. I met quite a bit of push back from people saying it was fantastic. But the Nano really didn't live up to what I was wanting.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад
+CaptPostmod there are some really great muffy type peds out there, but the Mufftoom really is something special
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 7 лет назад
I Ordered my Thorpy Fx Fallout Cloud / Muff ( 3 days ago ) and Mr. Adrian Thorpe was Extremely nice, so helpful and accommodating. Not only are his pedals Top-notch, but the client service was equally incredible. Great experience thus-far & Best Muff I have ever heard ( and I was Anti-Muff / Fuzz ) Until now. Thorpy took it to Another Level !!!
@vxidastronaut
@vxidastronaut 6 лет назад
Here I am watching this video again...
@JaggySam
@JaggySam 8 лет назад
Wasn't the Fuzz Munchkin reverse engineered from one of J Mascis' muffs?
@ransombaggins9301
@ransombaggins9301 4 года назад
RU-vid NEEDS to add a Poll option for viewers, given how common comparison videos are.
@scotslater
@scotslater 8 лет назад
So Daniel... what is currently on your personal board (whole chain), and are you primarily a fuzz or od guy? I think after so many years of trying to figure out why I just didn't like TS sounds, I finally figured out I was a fuzz guy and mostly dig Tonebenders. This video has given me a lot to think about in terms of evaluating the Big Muff sound. Love to hear your thoughts on the Wren and Cuff Caprid and Pete Cornish P2 as well. Cheers for another great episode of That Pedal Show.
@cdcgb1
@cdcgb1 8 лет назад
Muffroom cloud vs Muffuletta? Gunshot vs Angry Charlie? I think Thorpy is killing JHS one pedal at a time...
@elynnshiflett
@elynnshiflett 8 лет назад
Hey guys love the show! Have a possible show subject. I see some players are using cab simulators direct to desk or FOH. Can you guys compare pedals to amp to cab miked, versus pedals to amp cab sim vs pedals to cab sim. I am wondering about how difference the tone would be. Thx.
@ronzinale
@ronzinale 5 лет назад
Electro Harmonix has released a new triangle big muff, do you plan to review that? It seems great for the bucks
@numb41
@numb41 7 лет назад
Where's the Basic Audio Tri/Ram?! My personal favourite!
@MrJackrockerman
@MrJackrockerman 8 лет назад
dan & mick.. please do a demo for a fuzzy drive .. ( Boss Bd-2, EWS Fuzzy Drive, Skreddy Screwdriver, Way Huge Red Llama mk2, ) please , please , please my friend 🙏🙏❤️ because all the pedals i list 👆, is all favourite for all players..(certain maybe) tq dan and mick.. top notch demo video !! 👍👍
@vancitycanucks
@vancitycanucks 8 лет назад
I would've lent my Cornish G2 and NG-2!!
@peterjessop1878
@peterjessop1878 6 лет назад
Dan I have a question. That Triangle big muff, is it the one that the Thorpyfx used as a benchmark by any chance?
@smehtarocks
@smehtarocks 8 лет назад
Hey guys! Why don't you use the victory v40 for some of the demos? Would love to hear how it sounds with different pedals!
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