Jim Cornette on Dark Side Of The Ring's WWE Steroid Trial Episode 

Who said wrestlers are dumb...

Im going to hell for laughing as hard as i did

Nailz that would be an ecumenical matter yes

Tough as Nailz & rocks 4 Brainz.

@@JamesWho1 careful now!

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Hulk: "dont work yourself into a shoot, brother" Judge: "wait, what?"

Perfect!

TF man. I can't stop laughing when I read this 🤣😂🤣😂

The steroid trial was an all heel program.

Vince did have neck surgery, so Meltzer was a clown as usual.

@@chriskay1449 Meltzer on wor mentioned that

Meltzer can say what he wants. Vince did have neck surgery.

@@chriskay1449 yes he had neck surgery before the trial so that he could gain sympathy. Which is what Meltzer said, thicko.

Oh man that script was GOLD! For a lower budget movie,this one was a Home Run.

That amazing movie with Denise Richards caused my first wet dream 😍

Only the Benoit and Brian Pillman have been 2 hours so far

Agreed

It takes money... Probably only got a budget that carries their shows so far..

@@pleaseshutup7053 Yeah, so are you trying to counter that for some reason they should be the only ones to have multiple parts to them? If so, why?

No it shouldn’t. It’s not that interesting to fill an hour. The whole thing was bullshit.

The WCW racism lawsuit would be great to hear about too.

3rd and 4th topic doesn't make any sense for dark side of the ring

Scott Hall in general would be an absolutely amazing (and tragic) episode imo I’m still upset that Scott Hall (I think it’s his?) and Mike Awesome episodes aren’t coming this season (…or possibly NEVER due to Vice’s pending bankruptcy/shuttering) due to all the hype/word of mouth scaring their loved ones/colleagues getting cold feet over being subjected to such a documentary format. In particular, to hear more about Mike Awesome’s tragic story (and diminished stature in WCW/WWE) and self…end of life would be worth it if it meant more people were to remember him for his best work/performances (FMW/ECW and even some of his WCW matches) and ESPECIALLY his athleticism. For for as big as he was, that man not only could take bumps & punishment as he’s dishing it in equal measure…but GODDAMN WAS HE ABLE TO BE A HIGH FLYER not unlike Chris Candito (his finishers) or Undertaker (walking that tight rope with ease + occasionally going off that top turnbuckle)! He’s very much missed, maybe not as much as Scott Hall for most…but definitely as much to me.

I hope they never do a edge and Lita episode it’s such an old story and like what is really 3 people in their early to mid twenties doing something stupid and messy not surprising

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Pop

Yet he still lost to the panda

@@mexmexican8619 at least Vince wasn’t at risk to go to jail with that one.

@@mexmexican8619 no he didn’t. He was not allowed, as an American lawyer, to try the case over there.

That WBF was some weird sexual fetish stuff strictly for Vince’s head stash to watch later

The WBF is actual a hoot to watch in retrospect as all the bodybuilders were given WWE style gimmicks.

Could be saving it for a separate I guess

Wasn't the wbf made,just so he could bring in lex luger, without bringing him in as a wrestler, since he was still under wcw contract?!

@@superstarreviews9937 They did bring in Luger to the WBF first for those reasons, but my understanding has always been that it was something they were going to do regardless. Vince likes bodybuilding and thought he could apply his same "entertainment" formula to that as he did to wrestling. At one point in the early 90's they were considering some kind of karate league as well. Vince was looking to expand even then.

Agreed. The classic case of a sports writer who hates sports

If these people of 1990s watched the current shits we see on both WWE and AEW, maybe they will also sue Vince McMahon or Tony Khan :

And that's exactly why Vince had any success garnering sympathy.

another trial is due so

*Not true at all, so utterly wrong: they were out to get Vince, yes, but the prosecution never went after pro wrestling itself.*

@@MattSingh1 Going after vince is going after professional wrestling in the grand scheme. If wwe goes down they take all of professional wrestling on a national level down with them

What does its entertainment have to do with anything

@@chrischar9428 it's not a sanctioned sport, it's entertainment. It shouldn't matter if they take steroids because the outcomes are pre-determined. Just like every professional body builder takes steroids and no one cares

Steroids were legal until the late 1980’s anyway. Or was it even 1990??

What about Devi's Advocate The fall of Sean o hare?

I'd watch all of them. Great choices!!

Not a bad list. I would include Chyna, Muhammad Hussain, The British Bulldog, Racism in WCW, Ring Boy scandal in WWF, and Gentleman Chris Adams. I'll even throw in Al Perez

Curtain call incident, Black Saturday, fall of wcw, Test, Sunny and Candido, Razor Ramon, Yokozuna, Racist lawsuit of wcw, Sherri Martel, CM Punk, XFL, WBF, Ring of Glory, Wow Women of wrestling, Iron Sheik. Mr. Perfect, Marty Jannetty. Kamala. Bam Bam Bigelow.

@Calculon1712 I still refuse to call the world wildlife fund the WWF. They're an even bigger con job than pro wrestling.

@@violinfanatickamraz1403 very true

@@violinfanatickamraz1403 Don't know much about the World Wildlife Fund. What kind of cons have they pulled?

Sting wasnt tan enough..............lol

That story is so convoluted, I think even the Dark Side crew won't untangle this mess.

@@AUM_-po9sc good luck getting the truth out of Bischoff and Hulk 🤣

He was incredibly out of shape.

I’m no fan of Conrad, but I felt like he pushed back pretty hard on his podcast about it. It could be interesting if Sting gave his honest thoughts, but he’s usually such a nice guy, I don’t see that happening.

Ric Flair doesnt and will never have a wrestling contract again. His sponsorships are gone and no one will sign him. If he invested his money wisely, he wont do it. But if he didnt, then he will take any Paycheck offered to him

@@dudebro5527 flair will be back by summer

Austin Idol wasn't on the plane crash with Flair. Idol was on the plane crash with Garry Hart and Buddy Colt. Both happened in the seventies

Darkside is loosing ratings and IN MY OPINION= PLANE RIDE FROM HELL= FLAIR & DREAMER GETTING CANCELED. If it's going to hurt wrestling or wrestling careers why would any of the wrestlers want to be apart of it now.... MY OPINION.

@@juniorlee9341 he wrote 'crashes' , so im assuming he knows its more than one

Dark Side of the Ring: Chris Jericho From Wrestling Mega Star to a Parody of Himself.

Jericho sounds absolutely wasted during every single voice-over of Dark Side

I hope they get Mick Foley back as narrator. He was much better.

Jericho is starting to look like Rawhead Rex lol.

@@jaweiss34 when was Foley the narrator? season 1 was Dutch Mantell

You can say "let's face it" all you want, but it was proven in a court of law that Vince wasn't distributing steroids and the guys who admitted to using steroids admitted to using the stuff before they were ever in WWE and didn't get their supply from Vince.

Right...or the Fuckin Mafia...jeezus christ 🤣🤣🤣

Except it did not disappear.

I dont know what the future holds for DSOTR creatively. How many more episodes can they really make that aren't repeating the same stories? Dont get me wrong, there's been a LOT of controversial stuff in wrestling. But, only so many can be told in long documentary form. And there's some things that they wont touch like the JBL bullying allegations, because too many wrestlers are on record supporting/making excuses for it/being buddies with the guy. Ditto the Bob Holly bullying allegations. I think even CM Punk defended Holly's behavior..

I thought they did but I dont they would care anyway because I assume they didn't know any of them

All Icing No Cake

Corny didnt watch it

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Mushnick hates pretty much everybody. He is New York's number one curmudgeon.

@@foleynj86 I thought that was Frank Isola. Haha

I did too.. I know it takes money to do those shows but I wish they went deeper in it..

@@justtguilherme MY GUY!!!

@@justtguilherme lmfaooooo!!!!

@@justtguilherme Best comment of all time.

Meltzer is still butt hurt Vince wasn't convicted of bogus charges.

Reminds me of when Canada won the moral victory on South Park

Mushnick hates WWE and Vince McMahon. That's why he was on the show. If Mushnick was going after AEW they wouldn't have him on.

@@peterwelby he hates wrestling

Not only that, Mushnick uses his column to spill his racist rhetoric and views on the NBA, ESPN, rap music, and black people. It's amazing how the NY Post has kept this man and should have been fired from half of the racists views he's written.

Thus show IS anti wwe. And certain people. I'm expecting a hulk hogan n word episode is coming.

@@Costas22 not really, if they did cornette would have never have any of the members come on to his podcast, the are JOURNALISTS and do you know know these people love to do? If you don't then research.

SMH Magnum T.A didn't have a Motorcycle 🏍️ crash. Learn your history Son 🤔

I actually enjoyed it.

Well, that and 'roid rage leading to assault and destruction of property. If people can't control themselves while on a substance that substance should be controlled.

@@singaporesammy how many people do you know that use gear? clearly low #s if you think that ancient rhetoric is coming outta your mouth.. gear use doesnt give you rage, you have it already, it just magnifies it.. if you never were an angry person you dont become one..

No. the only thing that should be a concern is abuse. but even in the case of abuse. the media make it sound like all these guys died from steroids. no. the 80's was cocaine, the 90's was pills and that was worse, the 00's to present day was either young guys got on pills and sadly died or guys in the 80's and 90's died years later because of the damage done then.

@@tw475 hard drugs n gear 100% does not mix.. people like to only take a portion of the story & blow it waaaaaaay out of proportion

@@greggodfrey6516 like the truth in these cases isn't a story enough. yes, they took the shit because of a rough schedule and the fact they had to go wrestle while hurt or didn't get paid.

I used to enjoy it, but of late they've become more sensationalist. They grabbed some low-hanging fruit, and they started overdramatizing. Frankly it reminded me of the old TV show a current affair

Damn right man! And some shitty episodes! Did we really need an fmw episode?! Or a Nick gage episode?!

Perfectly summed up 🤣🤣🤣

Funny how they are more upset about a predetermined event rather than an actual sport using steroids.

What the hell are you blathering about? There was MASSIVE coverage of all of that. For years. Were you even alive at the time? Do you read newspapers or news magazines past the headlines on the front page?

@@henrygvidonas9573 No kidding. It was a huge deal when it came out Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Jose Canseco and the rest were juicing. It was headline news when the players were testifying in court. In fact, it was pretty much known, but not spoken that guys were juicing back in the 80s.

Jerry Jarrett I believe was going to which would have been interesting, taking commands from Vince in prison

Headgear....wtf

@@chrischar9428 it had something to do with them relating it to boxing IIRC. It’s not regulated like pro boxing, so if people were going to get hit in the head they would have to wear headgear like amateur boxing.

Hogan wasn't as over with the WWF audience in 93 like he was in 90/91. They were pretty tired of him by that point.

To be fair they say the average person commits 3 felonies in their lifetimes.

I thought you were talking about the eddie murphy movie for a second

@@malikevans2615 Okay, I probably should know this but I don't. Eddie Murphy did a Dolomite?

@@insupportofjunhado yup it's on Netflix it's not bad

Ask the rig team that he hired .

this is that Reddit lawyer expertise huh?

You realize he didn’t throw Owen off the building.

What crime did he committ there? Oh right, he never committed one.

Martha won the lawsuit.

He shuts down the site to catch up on orders. It's basically just him and his wife processing everything.

@@gayrambo4529 Ahhhh got it! Thank you very much . I was just curious but that answers that. Thank you for the info man.

Vince shouldve called Steven after the trial to sue people

Everyone KNOWS they can't prove you wrong, so they won't even try!

vinny veiny vucchi

The genetic freak never used steroids all natural baby 💪

Tell Braun breaker your his daddy

PEAKS ON TOP OF PEAKS 🚨💪♥️

I don't see how magnum TA would've been a dark side episode. Yeah he's the biggest what if of wrestling but his accident was a freak weather occurrence

Say it again, say it again...in Pinky's voice!!

agreed. I've always been under the impression this was a really controversial topic, but the episode made it seem pretty straight forward. one of the least exciting episodes tbh.

Xpw one cause that was crazy as fuck

@@rogregg29445 - ok that one too!

Considering how long it took them to even stand a chance of getting Snuka in court, it seems like it would be incredibly hard to prove anything against Vince at this point. Sad to say, but the boat of doing anything in that case has probably sailed.

What did Vince do?

@@pleaseshutup7053 Paid off the police... allegedly. I only add that for legal reasons. :P

@@AnsticePalo wow Vince a G for real instead of selling drugs he sells body slams.

Or Jim helwig and or Chris Benoit

All those guys that were on them came into the company already on them. It's a don't ask don't tell situation.

​@@MrJjburgess11 That's kind of my point though, Vince and the brass knew it was happening and looked the other way when they probably should have said something like "what you do on you're own time is your business, but there can't be even a whiff of steroids within the confines of our locker room/building.

He was like a mob boss. Telling people to get bigger without actually saying take roids.

@@user-do2ev2hr7h well in all fairness. They weren't illegal untill the early 90s. So in the 80s I don't see an issue.

Like JR said, I’m calling that guy if I’m ever in deep shit. That man is a legend

I don't think they even needed McDevitt. The prosecution was so inept a recent law school graduate could have won.

McDevitt said that in the episode

But how is he still alive ? 😖

Yeah you cant be 80 and jacked like that

@Dino Vasiljevic Guaranteed. Still on shit I bet.

Vince loved being on shit💉

Nah kid, Vince is more like a magician. He makes talent and viewership disappear.

@TheJoeGreene I just checked, SmackDown is stagnating around 2.2 million and Raw actually shrunk to around 1.6 million viewers in recent months (with both audiences still being vastly overaged). There are a lot of ways to stick it to AEW, but this ain't it. 😂

​@TheJoeGreene Raw had its smallest audience ever not in 2020, but on this year's July 5th at 1.47 million. Viewership climbed then a bit and peaked on August 23rd at 2.07 million, and now is back down to around 1.6 million for the last three weeks straight. Raw also had its lowest 18-49 rating in history just two weeks ago on October 18th at 0.39/510k. The numbers don't lie, and they still spell disaster!

"Vince played 5D chess..." Against an opponent that couldn't even get the dates and locations in their paperwork right and made first-week-of-law-school mistakes. Man, you're easily impressed. Let me show you the files from back when I sued the city because the garbage truck backed into my fence. That'll REALLY blow your mind!

Still believe that ?😆🤣

Hogan sabotaged Vince at every opportunity, yet when Warrior wanted his payday, he was like, "let's go rough him up". Meanwhile, not only did he testify against Vince, ans try to put him under during the MNW, Hogan absolutely no sold the WWF championship while he was in Japan.

He got fat

*Nicely put haha*

Warlord might have been a star if he could work and had charisma.

Did you just start watching wrestling? Wtf wwf is why he’s relevant… do some good history before you comment

@@Maxx_d13 I’m thinking they’ve got to be joking lol. Dave has written about wrestling for 40+ years of course he’s talked to Vince

Meltzer was employed by Vince and the WWE YEARS ago, to write in favor of them (public knowledge for years now). He's a jack off, as well as Alvarez.

Vince probably didn't know a fucking thing about him at that point. he was the guy that the media got because they didn't know a single thing about the workings of wrestling.

@@jaweiss34 during the decline of popularity in the 90's. but Vince wasn't talking to him in the 80's or after the attitude era got going.

I think it comes from a lack of understanding about the wrestling business and a misconception that its all one big monopoly controlled by McMahon

@@MBM1117727 Or perhaps the idea was just to make an example out of the most successful promoter. Either way, it's interesting to contemplate the direction WWF could have gone in if Vince was sent to the slammer.

@@Raven34643 Very true! For one thing it's very hard to imagine a WWF owned by Jerry Jarrett!