maybe not, the user described calamity as inevitable bad occurences affecting anyone indiscriminately, even (paraphrasing) _"a saint walking on the right path and making no mistakes"_ , which also almost describes someone using feng shui as guidance in any case, there are moments that Kenzo leaves himself vulnerable; a calamity could interfere with reading Dragon's Dream properly, and the Stand cannot show him a lucky spot and the opponent's unlucky direction at the same time
So basically to break it down: Kenzou uses a concept called “Feng Shui,” the philosophy that there is a natural flow of energy, and going against that flow of energy is bad luck. Dragon’s Dream, when summoned, points in the most fortunate direction that Kenzou can take. When Dragon’s Dream is floating behind F.F., it is pointing towards their unlucky spot. This is the spot that Kenzou aims to attack using the fortunate direction he was given. At times, he can enter the Dragon, giving one or both of his arms. The Dragon then assists by shooting the arm(s) to the unlucky spot of the target OR direct the natural flow of energy to another scenario (for example when F.F.’s arm hit the bloated body after being forced into the dragon). As for the Final Destination stuff going on, this does not mean that Dragon’s Dream can predict the future like Diavolo’s Epitaph. Rather, the unlucky events that happen to F.F. are the cause of them happening to be in the most unfortunate position. Because Kenzou was able to perfect his Feng Shui assassination, he ideally won. However, using the sweat Kenzou perspired, F.F. created a mirror using water, reflecting Dragon’s Dream. This means that Kenzou is actually in the opposite direction of the most fortunate, therefore, F.F. transferred the bad luck to him via transferring electricity. The only thing that can stop a perfect Feng Shui assassination-is a tie. F.F. taking him down with them is a tie.
It’s the same situation as King Crimson of a stand power thats fundamentally very simple but is explained so poorly that people get confused. Like Dd power is just pointing out good spots and bad spots = stand in the good spots and hit people in the bad spots and don’t let the enemy do the same thing to you but araki adding in all this feng shui just needlessly complicated it.
This was one of the most confusing battles in the entire manga series, thankfully DavidP as always did an outstanding job adapting it and making it much more understandable.
Well played, Linkcario X: Good job to the *staffs of David Production* for adapting *such confusing battle* of the entire "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure" manga series into much, MUCH understandable in the anime adaptation yet...👍
It took me a minute too, but eventually King Crimson became readily available I was more caught up in Giorno's ability. Why would Johnathan's body provide something so wonky? Its as though the formation between the body and Dio's head gave him a Super Aja stone. Maybe thats what wombs are, like literally a gateway in infinitely malleable cells Anyways for people who are still caught up in King Crimson, its a super elaborate metaphor for Peter Pan. The body inherits genetic potential, but the will makes up for what you do with it To quote another anime making a quote "the cub of a tiger is also a tiger" we are all born with the framework of magnanimous man, but there's really no telling what outcomes will manifest themselves [after we are born] You can have the body of a man, but the experience of a boy. In this case Diavalo refuses to accept that he is a man that must follow up with consequence so he hides his visage in Doppio. Its a form of arrested development. He is outwardly peter pan, but inwardly captain hook TRYING TO ESCAPE THE CLOCK What Diavalo does is contort general relativity by switching back and forth between the adult brain and the child brain. His reveal to Polnareff illustrates this quite well If a person looks at you and goes, that's an adult, but then you act like a child, you automatically assume that he has not put aside childish things. Diavalo removes that registration process entirely. His stand is basically the Ocarina of time for evil With all that said, King Crimson's ability in the world works to hide tne cause, but his influence still remains *in effect* Sure, its about "erasing time" but to a greater extent its about shifting the perception of everybody _else_ Who caused the meth empire? The Boss. Who roams the earth? Doppio. Who is the man? Diavalo, but nobody knows that. How does he put it to task? King Crimson See, to everybody else's perspective, the world is operating normally. To Diavalo, he retains the memory of all his misgivings and keeps people as slaves. Its no mystery that Chariot Requiem adopted the agency of transient shadow in order to put him in check. The only thing that could defeat him (GER) is a requiem stand that can act as vanishing point to all the living. Giorno was the antithesis to everything Diavalo was doing, the man that *became* a stand. Giorno's stand was struck, but his brains weren't exposed Erasing time made Diavalo unreal. Facing fate made Giorno surreal. Erasing time warped *everyone else's* perspective, but what happens when you donk up the wizard? The illusion shatters. So there you have it, Giorno closed the loop to the malfunctioning butterfly effect caused by King Crimson
I like to think everyone had the same reaction as I did when Jolyne ordered him to help out FF and double-team Dragon’s Dream. I was literally like: “We don’t do that here.”
05:57 Jolyne Cujoh 🦋🕸️: (sees the Dragon's Dream 🐉 in the electric chair room ⚡💺 with an electrocuted F.F. and Kenzou) "The *dragon* .. 🐉 The *dragon is still there!* "
I like that at first you think it's some kind of water-based stand because of the bloated bodies and his method of attack being to make people down from their own lungs filling with fluid. Then as the fight progresses you realize what his actual ability is.
@@avoidx2571 he uses feng-shui assassination: His stand, Dragon's dream, allow kenzo to see his "lucky spot" and his opponent "unlucky spot". His lucky spot being the areas where he's 100% sure no attack would ever touch him, and his opponent unlucky spot being the areas of his opponent body where kenzo's attack would be 100% fatal.
“Drake’s Dream” Am I the only one who thinks Dragon’s Style would of fit the stand and it’s ability for its localised name? Also hope you do Jolyne and Anasui vs Green Green Grass Of Home
@@CustardDahlia the way it’s animated is like kaneda from akira sliding with his bike. You can search akira slide homage and see that many anime have referenced akira like this in their own work
@@Neil-ko7pj this is what happen when you dont understand a stand ability. I'm still trying to find common elements between king crimson and dragon dream.
I actually understood what Kenzou did. Basically Kenzou hit certain points of the body that activates a certain hormone in the adrenal glands (most likely vasopressin). Think of it like the hormone that gives off adrenaline but instead of giving energy, it makes the body produce fluids inside the body. Kenzou basically gave the prisoners peripheral edema.
I've never laughed so hard in an anime, The old man's legs after the Dive Drive, he's all burnt up with screwed up eyes and teeth and talking slow, I can't.. it's too hilarious.
This was a wild trip for me. The mystery behind what his stand could be had me on the edge of my seat, and came down to the ultimate reveal that his stand ability is nothing and he’s just good at fighting.
@@ChrisNachoss *What the heck do you meant about it* ya, ChrisNachos 🤔? What do you said about "the *two handicapped characters fighting* ⚔️" on your comment here?
The anime is great, but it always bothered me just how much talking was present within it. I mean, it makes sense in a manga format where description is important and a scene can be digested, but sweet lord, less is sometimes more.
@@newjojosupercutsandmore2489 Thanks! Though it's just been a pet peeve of mine. I mean, I get why they do it, it's easier generally to animate people talking and movement in action scenes can be a major pain, but this really is a thesis statement on why movies and the like never adapt their original material 1.1. There are just some things that don't transfer well across mediums and well, I would rather the length of a series be halved then padded with lengthy dialogue. I'm glad this series exists, but I've never really sat down to watch it either. Reading the manga is just much quicker which is a real shame as I really *want* to like it.
doing so would’ve required me to extend the duration of the fight by a good extra minute or two because of the way the music and momentum stopped, and my main goal here was to present the fight choreography in a more uninterrupted format
such a perfect jojo ability, something nobody but araki would think of. To weaponize feng shui, and then you throw in martial arts and "defenses that are also attacks." Then combine that with an extremely durable Foo Fighters with the unique premise in the fight that their water is slowly draining from their body because of the loss of blood. There are so many layers, and most jojo fans seem to have Stone Ocean brain rot so I can see why this one might stump some, but it's one of the best in my book.
While the man who voiced Brook 💀🎻 (One Piece 👒☠️) as well *Senator Wilson Phillips* back in Part 3: Stardust Crusaders ✋ anime also did a good job as Kenzou's Stand *Dragon's Dream* 🐉 as well...😁👍
Thank you for this!! I totes agree, lol. And 3:26 this as well, YES !! Really the only single thing that disappointed me for this scuffle was we didn't get just one moment more of acrobatic FooF sakuga here 3:40 in the anime (instead of abruptly cutting to Jolyne. I loved that panel in the manga >_
So things in the area of effect are moved in directions that are lucky for the user, just like one would move furniture to create positive energy/feng shui in a room. If the dragon takes a piece of you, it then gets directed to a favorable position once released.
essentially: Big dragon points at unlucky areas, little dragon compass points at lucky areas, if you touch the dragon, it creates an unlucky situation that will somehow harm the target
Is the localized name even necessary, given Dragon’s Dream is named after an album that was never finished and thus, I presume, never copyrighted? Did the localization team just want to play it safe, or did they just not know the story behind the reference and assumed a localization was necessary?
It’s kinda up for debate what Dragon’s Dream is named after, another popular theory is it’s named after Roger Dean’s company Dragon’s Dream, Roger Dean being the guy who provided album art for various bands such as Yes (Roundabout) and Asia (Aqua Necklace), and this company definitely has a copyright to its name, so maybe this could give us answers.
I feel like a lot of the localizations are just playing it safe, given how merciless some of the record labels that own some of the copyrights probably are
@@THEDeathWizard87 Sometimes they are weird and non-sensical. Like they seriously change Oingo and Boingo to Zenyatta and Mondatta. A copyrighted name to another copyrighted name. The fuck?
Sometimes I feel like they do it just for shits and giggles. Like there probably isn't a need to censor a name like white snake, given it's a fairly generic name, but at this point it's become a habit and the fandom does have fun with the localised names every once in a while, so they're probably just throwing a bone.
I like that through FF, Araki made Atroe appear to be a kind of Goliath figure in comparison to her enemy. Obvious that he has the advantage with his stand and being a feng shui master, he can outmaneuver FF's water based antics It makes for an interesting fight since FF would make Atroe's body OP in any other situation
I feel like a steady theme of this arc is phasing in and out of bodies, the kiss abiltity, discs, c moon, weather report getting a joestar birthmark, Pucci standing in for Dio, Jolyne's threads, diver down, plankton healing everybody's wounds. Did I miss anything? I'm not really caught up on burning down the house
I kind of wonder if some of this fight took inspiration from Fist of the North Star. I know in the past Araki has stated part 1 and 2 took inspiration from it and Feng Shuei martial arts sounds like something that would show up in that series. Even the "drowning attack" is reminiscent of some of the power points used to make people explode.
Though kenzou Is a Small old man who drinks his own pee, he’s probably one of the most terrifying stand users I’ve ever seen, and his walk is just menacing as hell.
I hope you'll be happy to hear this style of fighting returns in both parts 7 and 8 (though more in 7), as well as more like this to come by the end of 6 7 will also introduce more firearms based battles where all combatants are almost always armed with guns, regardless of stand power
@@newjojosupercutsandmore2489 I remember the only times this style of fight in Part 7 was with Diego and Funny Valentine, and most of Part 8 was more psychological. But it’s been a while since I’ve read them.
@@TheBestComicKing it was definitely those two bringing it to the table the most often but im pretty sure there were others, and part 8 it was with the aphex brothers, josefumi, blue hawaii, and I believe urban guerilla if I remember correctly. Im really looking forward to the gun fights in part 7 tho, the eleven men battle and the wekapipo fights especially
do you know how fucking stress inducing this fight was when i read it in the manga for the first time im glad the anime managed to capture that feeling so well 😅
I really didn't like how Kenzou gets defeated. It's too humiliating. Guy is 78, didn't have a wickedly op stand (hell it wasn't even on his side), wasn't really arrogant (only confident), takes on three stand users and get put through a humiliation conga...
Powers 101: anyone with the ability to heal from normally fatal wounds will always receive multiple injuries that would put anyone else down. See Wolverine ch. 5
Anasui really fucking just watched there and only gave Jolyne some Chinese culture lessons instead of helping F.F. F.F didn't have to be badly damaged, once he learned the Stand he could've already helped. I guess he's some sort of selfish speciesist, but it really made him so unlikable. He even stole the glory in the end. F.F.'s only solo fight against a villain and they didn't even get to finish him.
I think that's what makes him kinda interesting imo. We were always used to have the jobros as the good guys. To have one that twisted and actually deserves his time in prison is a nice change of pace. He's creepy, almost unpredicatable and insanely vicious but at the same time is so out touch with social cues that it provides some funny moments.
I do not know if his stand could go inside ff cause ff is actually a bunch of small parts with a water form, sense she is kinda a stand and I do not think his stand can go into stands
ok so not sure if ive ever seen anyone interpret this the same way i have but i think that "entering the dragon" (aka the arm thing) is meant to be a way to trigger the luck kenzo is almost always on a lucky spot, so him "entering the dragon" made it so that his flying arm would find a way to bs stuff *for* him, which *luckily* caught ff off guard and opened her mouth when ff "entered the dragon", which happened twice, she was already on an unlucky spot to begin with, which means that whatever happens, her flying arms would find a way to bs stuff *against* her, like *unluckily* getting scalped and barely missing the water and landing on the chair instead
Ermes vs Limp Bizkit, FF vs whitesnake, Jolyne vs Planet waves, Jolyne vs Mew Mew, Jolyne and Anasui vs yo yo ma and green baby, and then Jolyne vs whitesnake should be last
It doesn't have anything to do with his stand, it's just a special technique that damages the nerves in such a way that your body starts producing extreme amounts of mucus
