Joe Budden on Will Smith & Jada Pinkett-Smith | "You're Not a Victim, You're a Volunteer" 

Joe is right on one thing, we shouldn’t sympathize for Will if he doesn’t sympathize for himself

Love isn't supposed to be unconditional. If you love someone no matter what they do then you don't love yourself enough to have boundaries.

Jada knows everything we don't about Will Smith. Their relationship seems like a partnership with a lot of secrets. Bodies being buried kind of secrets

This is another example why people shouldn’t take sides in other people marriages.. we have no clue the nuances of their relationship

Ish is 100% right. She is taking advantage of Will's ability to take the emotional and mental abuse. Will is so head strong about not wanting to divorce and she knows that. She's using it to her advantage and dragging that man through the works. Will needs help in the sense that he needs someone to actually sit his ass down and tell him it's ok to let something that does not look or feel healthy go. He's a grown man and makes his own decisions and no one can tell him otherwise just like all men. But I'll be damned if Jada don't know what the fuck it is she's doing. Jada's "trauma" from her past should have been dealt with by her self and counseling. She's using that man as a pinata and people are sympathizing with her because.. of a book and what she's said in it? She's 50 something! She had a show about women's mental health but failed herself? FOH. Stop the cap and stop excusing her fucked up behavior. Yall wouldn't let a man slide on that but because she's a woman yall sympathize and champion her bullshit because "she's been through so much and Will's letting it happen".

Will is currently side-by-side with her on her book press tour saying “she is my best friend and i will support her till the day I die” After seeing that, i have no sympathy for him nor do i believe he is a victim anymore.

I feel like no one has read Wills book which are out first ? He also goes into great detail about things in their marriage and his faults and wrong doings as well. I’m not for sure why Jada is the only one who gets scrutinized in this marriage

Well Will Smith is actually living true to the vows. Better or worse and rich or poor sickness and health.. that’s what it is. It is what it is. This is just a true realization that most people don’t really mean that shit..🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

Will Smith wrote a book as well and went on a press run. That book had topics about Jada as well.

Yeah his book don’t include his personal life cuz, respectfully, don’t nobody give a fuck about his personal life. People love hearing about Jada’s personal life evidently despite people saying they’re tired of it

Not for nothing the line “You’re not a victim, you’re a volunteer” is a line from one of Joe Budden song called Ventilation on Mood Muzik 3 series. Once I heard that line I applied towards life and told people that quote when it applied to scenarios. I use to say it so much people though that line was mind but I always gave Joe credit for it. Real lyrics matter and can be applied to life.

"Life partners" LMAO You got it, Will.

I BEEN on her side for the simple fact that I don’t fucking celebrity worship. Everybody acting so sad for Will just think he deserves better because he played in a damn sitcom they liked growing up lol….

The collective eye roll at the end was fuckn priceless 😂

The fact that ya'll keep making excuses for Will is hilarious. Will ALREADY knew what was in the book because he helped her in the parts where she was discussing their marriage. Jada BEEN covering Will. Ya'll wasn't mad at Wills book where he discussed being with other women during that SAME SEPARATION and Jada Kept her mouth shut. But now, when she wants to stand and speak,, she's a villian. Jada and Will relationship is not that uncommon, We just put them on a pedestal and coming to find out they are just as phucked up as the rest of us, except they have money 🤣. If ya'll actually took the time and read her book she stands up for Will and said alot of things she was wrong for during their relationship. Ya'll can't be this mad and never read either book.🤣

Will Smith is dedicated to marriage. If you remember, he didn't want to divorce his first wife. Yes, we all have questions as to why Will continues to stay. But if you know anything about marriage. You know that married folks can be all over the place emotionally. This is why, when you meet a person who is separated and you get involved with them. Watch out! But just when you think you're in a solid relationship with a separated person..If that man or woman decides. To go back to the marriage, you'll be left sitting on the side lines. Bottom line, this is Will & Jada's s..t of a mess of a marriage. If they want to stay together, ride, or die together, so be it. Let's all go get drinks and focus on our own damn lives. 💯

I don’t feel bad for Will at all because he chooses that but that don’t mean I agree with what she is doing either by emasculating that man every chance she gets. I definitely don’t look at her the same way I used to or Will either bruh is a goofy.

Will wrote his book first and admitted to cheating on her and his ex wife. Im guessing no one read his!

bro, will cheated on jada mad times and went on multiple vacations with his ex while he was married with jada. why everyone feeling sorry for Will?

I will be honest, after listening to her audiobook. I do understand her unconventional ways a little more. Repeated trauma combined with repeated drug and alcohol abuse affects some more than others.

If youve ever seen “House of Cards” then you understand their relationship. Will moves like a politician

I'm like Will. There's nothing my wife could do to make me divorce her and she knows it. The difference is my wife would never take advantage of knowing so

7:50 the combination of flip melz and joes reaction vs ish response is fckn hilarious 😅😅😅

Hey, if Will likes it, I love it. Further confirmation for me that fame and wealth can cause some people to move differently. I hope it works out for THEM. 👊🏽

Bravo, the title says it all!

I said this last year, I said they weren't married and Jada reveals they been separated since 2016. Will Smith is one of my favorite actors, but he's always been about his image. He didn't divorce Jada and letting Jada get away with what she is doing because his reputation couldn't handle being divorced twice. Jada wants out of this Hollywood life and she wants out of this life partnership with Will

I’ve stopped sympathising for will but I definitely look at him different with an air of sadness

If will don’t care about his crappy relationship why the he’ll do we care..

Why are we ignoring the fact that red table talk was supposed to be about truth, reconciliation, healing and all that woo woo bs, come 1 year later turns out all of it was bs and lies, they left out the most important part that they were separated. A year from now are they going to come out saying they never separated ?!

Not taking any sides....both parties are outta bounds. "I'm rolling with Jada" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Joe is right. 🤷🏽‍♀️ it’s the public that feels shame and offense not him.

They have made their beds & are lying in them willingly. But the commentary is entertaining and interesting.

Can't take no marital advice from Will. Bro under a spell

I mean he signed up for it, who am I to judge her?

This word separated is like a hall pass to ppl now. Either divorce ir commit. Jada and Will have uno cards for cheating and call it separated 😂😂

*WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THESE PEOPLE'S RELATIONSHIP 🙄*

It’s hilarious that no one essentially read Will’s book. He emasculates and overshared himself

I’m with Joe on this will smith come on with the good guy take it on the chin does she know something we don’t that she’s not saying so you take the blows what is it ?

Jada knows that Will is the bread winner. I'm thinking Jada is either voluntarily or involuntarily sacrificing what's left of her public image with her book to get empathy and sympathy for Will to get him back in the public's favor.

I think Will plays for both teams and is trying to walk the high road to keep his secret safe

JOE BUDDEN IS A POWER BOTTOM!!

Will needs to be a part of his own rescue.

So if you are still married and separated and cheat it’s not cheating if you’re still married?

She’s his beard! And he’s the worst type of Narc. She is a malignant narcissist

So basically Will is saying she can shit on me any way she likes as long as she likes and I’m not going anywhere

*"Ventilation".... epic Budden song*

Talking about a book they haven’t even read 🙄

woke him up loll what struggles did she go through she married a big movie star and all he got was her putting him down 😂😂😂😂

“But at what cost?” **drops mic**

The men who are so offended on Will’s behalf are really just upset incels. I guarantee no one read Will’s book

Message to Mel's comment: " that's crazy!" Me: That's the way love goes.(In my Janet Jackson voice.) True love that is; hope you find it soon so you can relate better to the topic.

We are talking about people worth multi-millions!!! Them publishers ain’t tell her shit! The book isn’t even well written🫠

Will with the word vomit

I respect Will Smith so much right now to get tore down by the world and still power though yo Will keep going strong brother

People need to stop defending Will. He's a grown ass man

Ish is absolutely wrong that no one thought Jada cheated. They definitely felt an entanglement was synonymous with cheating!

People are trying to make Will feel how they would feel in that particular situation and he doesn’t. So people are flocking to his defense when he doesn’t even care as much as everyone else.

Stop giving them attention. No one should care about that man & his wife anymore. The kids are cool & they deserve healing, but the parents are grown and those decisions shouldn’t be put out there. He’s made the decision to stay, so no one else should chime in.

All hail King Cornball ✋🏽🤚🏽

Don't save who doesn't want to be saved

Will Smith reminds me of why I’m a fan of characters or what athletes do on their field of play. But them as people I have to disassociate with. This ain’t Fresh Prince and this ain’t Mike Lowry man!!!

If yall don't feel bad for will, then yall better stop feeling bad for women who STAY in physically abusive relationships 🤷🏾‍♂️ and that's Ish's point, and i agree with him

lit ep

From someone who survived DV, this is exactly what I did and didn’t realize I was wrong. He does show signs of a man who is getting abused doesn’t mean physical y’all. But I can see it and it’s not talked about in the black community let alone in the man community either.

4:47 you will hear one of Joes bars from his mood muzik 3 mixtape lol

Will talking like he defending a cult leader. I don’t think he sees the toxicity within the relationship that they both are inflicting on each other. She’s checked out, and he’s refusing to accept that & move on.

Ever time Will open his mouth, it pisses me off lmfao smh . Like legit you a volunteer. He love all that shit 😂

5:09 Good save 😅

When did Will Smith act as a victim? Has he asked for help? Has he bashed her for the statements she’s made? No! He knows everything that’s been said. Nothing can hurt Will Smiths career. This is entertainment. Don’t be simple. SMH

Jada saying I don’t fuck with you but you are rich and famous so I’ll keep you around

YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND..WILL SMITH ALMOST JOINED SCIENTOLOGY. HIS MIND IS WEAK

Ish said, u umm, a billion times. Umm king of the pod

They are both in on it!!!..they don’t care this was all publicity now Will has a podcast!!..and at this point who CARES!!!.

I agree Joe. We dont know so keep out their business

Yeah August was reported to be Jadans friend before engaging in an entanglement with his mom Jada , but has anyone ever considered that August might have been Jadans boyfriend at one point since he does consider himself to be sxlly fluid .

What was the end of that sentence? “I don’t believe a man loves me unless he….” WHAT?

Ish is always the smartest one in the room.

Is it the guy in the paris hoodie role to actively coutner every point Joe Budden has?

Just because you don’t subscribe to something it means Jada has to do the same. She is still the one making the money from the book, and she is still the one having the WILL SMITH on her corner (his words). why y’all still mad?

Listen I’m tired of Jada and will because the public at large just refuses to actually acknowledge what they’re saying and just projecting their own feelings onto them. They are ok how they are both have said it together and separately , everything y’all learning about them they know and are ok with it. This what happens when y’all don’t mind your business

Jada’s roll out is not a masterclass because it’s not translating to book sales. The book is not doing that good.

Ish held his own here

That ain’t love dc how anyone frames it.

As a man, I’m not jacking any of that. Ain’t no such thing as life partners if the marriage ain’t working I’m going to go be happy somewhere else. Y’all crazy agreeing with jada bs

I fucks w. Ish point on this‼️He’s 1000% RIGHT‼️💯

ok so heres my theory that ive had for a while now. jada and will started dating, and somewhere in their relationship, jada catches will cheating on her with a guy. he tells her he isnt like that and talks he way out of it. maybe this is pre/post kids. he continues to do this and jada gets suspicious. he comes out as bisexual to her but because the kids they stay together to let will work his sexuality out. due to their relationship, he feels he cant get into another heterosexual relationship with another lady and he cant come out as queer due to him being an action star leading man. thats career suicide. the pressure of him keeping these secrets can make him do wild and crazy stuff that seems off to us who dont know his demons hes fighting. he gay

i'm with ish

Why does his rambling always sound like “extra happy story telling”???

JPB!!

Classic Joe bar!😊

Jada knows something about Will that he dosen't want to come out. U truly believe that he's being blackmailed

Ish is my favorite

Joe Is right about will isn’t victim . He could be on the DL or using it for sympathy.

I think its becoming overly obvious that this man has a humiliation kink or something and they've made us a part of it for no reason... so it might be that she's a devoted and loving wife the whole time

We all were wanting to hear from Will, now I regret it smh he crazy AF

I agree budden….something BEEN OFF BOUT WILL

Well her book isnt selling so clearly she wasnt loud enough

One of Joe's bars

Ish is right!

Mel and Flip make this podcast feels over saturated I like Flip a lot more on his podcast with G Money