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Hey everybody!
So, Joe Mauer is one of the best players from the 2000's and is one of the best Twins of all time. Today, I thought I'd take a look at his hall of fame case and determine whether he should make the hall of fame or not. If you have a player with a hall of fame case you would like me to review, leave that player in the comments. I hope you guys enjoy the video!
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@grimmturd
@grimmturd 3 года назад
As a Twins fan and having watched Joe Mauer play most of his career, there are some things that stats don't cover when considering how great a player is and how much impact they have on the game. For starters, Joe was respected by EVERYBODY in baseball. You could see it in every game he played. He never had a bad attitude and even garnered respect from umpires. He was such a natural talent and he played the game about as honest and pure as one can. I know these things can't be put in documentation, but I think of the similarity he has when regarding Ken Griffey Jr. when he was inducted. Griffey had the highest % of HoF votes for any player and, while deserving of it, he didn't have amazing seasons every year he played, in fact some were worse than most at the time. His time in the spotlight was pushed to heavy celebrity status, unlike Joe's. But overall, both were perfect examples of honest, pinnacle of play performances. It's the understanding of what type of player they are aside from stats and how they are looked up to by others in the league that hold weight for the fickle decision-making of HoF voters. Some things that cannot be quantified can hold great value and I'm confident the HoF will see that as well when it's his time.
@garycrabb9805
@garycrabb9805 3 года назад
If Mauer gets in, then Justin Morneau should get in. The take I have on Mauer is he never played the catcher in games played every year he played catcher. Like Bench, Rodriguez, Berra, Fisk, Piazza, etc. Bench, for example, in his first 3 years play over 150 games at catcher, over 140 games in his 2nd year and over 130 games in his 3rd. Mauer played over 130 games in his career 1 time/year. He also played only 1 other position in the field...1st base. Bench played 3rd, 1st and outfield. Mauer played catcher over 100 games in parts of 5 seasons. In his final 3 seasons at catcher, his big salary seasons of his huge contract and top 10 paid salary of any year of his contract, he played catcher 52 times in 2011, 74 times in 2012, 75 times in 2013 and 1 at bat/pitch in 2018. In 2004, just to add, he only played in 32 games. So saying he played catcher for 10 years is a lot overstated. He was a great hitter when he did played even though he had little power. I think the Hall of Fame will look at those games played at catcher, times at DH. Also how many games he missed/didn't played every year of his career. He was a great guy but if that gets him in, then a much better producer in runs. Justin Morneau, should get in.
@hartspacevachon
@hartspacevachon 3 года назад
Lets be real Joe is a HoFer Hes one of the best catchers in the last 20 years. Hes a respected guy. Great defensive catcher and a very good hitter
@garycrabb9805
@garycrabb9805 3 года назад
@@hartspacevachon again...if you read what I just wrote earlier, he will definitely have a tough time getting in. Especially the first year. To add, he never was on a team that won even a playoff game. It would seem in ten games, he would have helped them, caught them at least one win. Being one of the nicest guys' in baseball doesn't mean Hall of Fame. If that's the case, Justin Morneau, the Twins best Home run and RBI man the past 20 years gets in too.
@hartspacevachon
@hartspacevachon 3 года назад
@@garycrabb9805 dude this isn't football or whatever other sport your thinking is the standard. The respect of your peers is more important than if you won games or not. Justin Morneau isn't a hall of fame player. He was a very good player but that's just it. He played a different position so first off you can compare the 2. Second off yeah he didn't play that many games behind the plate and look at his line now imagine if he did play more games there.
@garycrabb9805
@garycrabb9805 3 года назад
@@hartspacevachon "Dude" I am thinking baseball. Justin Morneau- MVP. runner-up in 2008, would have been in 2010 if not hurt, 4 straight years of 100 or more RBIS. (Which JOE NEVER EVER DID) And Justin was respected and a extremely nice guy. Joe was a excellent role model baseball player too. No question. But again, Joe took a lot of time off. DH, days off even hurt. The Twins paid Joe because he was a product of Minnesota, a great hitter when he played and the most important...would be the catcher and hitter he was in 2009! Sorry but starting in 2011, he was hurt and never again played at least 100 games at catcher. He also didn't play 1st base very regular either 100 games in 2014, 137 was the most in 2015 and 125 in 2017. For catchers, see Piazza, Bench, Berra, Fisk, Rodriguez, etc. First basemen see Musial. Gehrig, Foxx, Bagwell. Thomas, etc. Joe just doesn't measure up because of GAMES PLAYED. He had a bunch of time off. All throughout of his career. 2007-109 games, 2011-82 games, 2013- 113 games, 2014-120 games. And every season he played- he played either DH or sat out a lot of games. Nothing compared to those hall of fame players. Just my thoughts and probably not etched in stone...the Hall of Fame committee will look at. Good luck. Justin Morneau deserves in too. So does one of my favorites and a great ambassador of the sport, Mark Grace!!
@johnwoida2584
@johnwoida2584 3 года назад
And Mauer had 1 error in 1 year at first base and still didn't win the golden glove
@johnwoida2584
@johnwoida2584 3 года назад
@Val Venus that is racist because you judging someone on skin color instead of their stats
@joshjessen1397
@joshjessen1397 3 года назад
THIS should get more attention!! How he didn't win a gold glove that year at first base....beyond me
@acrisptaco8876
@acrisptaco8876 3 года назад
@@joshjessen1397 That year was during peak Eric Hosmer hype if I recall. Joe shoulda had it by a landslide that year imo
@seannovack3834
@seannovack3834 3 года назад
@@joshjessen1397 And being a guy who has won a Gold Glove at two positions would have been pretty rare as well
@connerpeterson1119
@connerpeterson1119 2 года назад
Errors are bad stats
@Tetsaiken
@Tetsaiken 4 года назад
"Nobody is That Guy at the end." David Ortiz: Hold my beer.
@jacobbaker8323
@jacobbaker8323 3 года назад
Nelson Cruz: Kag stand!!
@ommy7672
@ommy7672 3 года назад
Justin Verlander: Hold my beer
@thenaturallyinsane1
@thenaturallyinsane1 3 года назад
He wasn't That Guy in several early years with the Twins either
@ernestolombardo5811
@ernestolombardo5811 3 года назад
(Sandy Koufax has entered the chat)
@anewt72690
@anewt72690 3 года назад
Came here to say this.
@vinhsanity
@vinhsanity 3 года назад
Having to learn how to play 1B that late into his career was an accomplishment on its own. Also, 2017 Mauer should have one a GG at first I think he made 2 errors the entire season or something like that. But for whatever reason people have this “he plays a power position” that penalized him. But in the modern era of baseball, all positions are guys who can hit for power.
@timmutohfan
@timmutohfan 3 года назад
Couldn't it be said, since all positions have guys who can hit for power (generally) doesn't that make Mauer's lack of power for the position of 1B all that more glaring?
@paulbrower4265
@paulbrower4265 3 года назад
@@timmutohfan See also Rod Carew, who made the transition to first base out of a concern for injuries. Mauer was never a base-thief, but if one is good enough at getting on base one does not have any complaint about a lack of power or speed. Look at it this way: Rod Carew made both Harmon Killebrew and Reggie Jackson all the more dangerous for clogging up the base-paths in front of those sluggers.
@QuorasTrueScaryStories
@QuorasTrueScaryStories 3 года назад
Joe did some crazy things that typical stats wont track. For instance, he broke up a no-hitter in the 9th inning on THREE separate occasions. Wow
@SgtHolton
@SgtHolton 3 года назад
I think another important thing to remember about Ivan Rodriguez barely getting into the hall, is that he was named by Jose Canseco in the book "Juiced" as a steroid user, and that every other player named in the book (Juan Gonzalez, Rafael Palmeiro, Mark Mcgwire, and Jason Giambi) all either tested positive or were found with steroids. I think that had more to do with Pudge's rougher road to Cooperstown.
@t-squared6406
@t-squared6406 3 года назад
yeah,Pudge was a sure fire Hall of Famer,shouldn't have affect it!
@abtwopoint0
@abtwopoint0 Год назад
@@t-squared6406 like bonds?
@kennansnipes
@kennansnipes 3 года назад
I think Jim Edmonds deserved more love for the Hall. Great offense and power with 8 Gold Gloves in center field.
@outtaherebaseball3205
@outtaherebaseball3205 4 года назад
Love it! He's a hall of famer in my book. You should do Chase Utley next!
@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
Outta Here Baseball good choice!
@MrLeoni2
@MrLeoni2 4 года назад
I agree. I like to see SportStorm's take on Utley's case for the Hall.
@stybur19
@stybur19 3 года назад
@@MrLeoni2 if you think Utley is a hall of famer than you clearly dont understand how prestigious the hall is supposed to be.
@MrLeoni2
@MrLeoni2 3 года назад
@@stybur19 Reread what I wrote. I wanted to see his take on Utley's case for the Hall, to see if he did have a chance or not. After all, the period he was hurt seems to have hurt his chances.
@1neOfN0ne
@1neOfN0ne 3 года назад
@@stybur19 oh really it so ridiculous to even think Utley is a hall of famer because of how "prestigious" the hall is? Barry Larkin, a short stop, typically a better offensive position had career stats .295 avg /198 HR /960 Rbi = HOF'er Utley - 259 HR / .275 avg / 1025 rbi... Oh and 6x all star and a top player at his position for almost a decade. = "Bum. Not prestigious enough"
@user-cv8qe9ru8c
@user-cv8qe9ru8c 3 года назад
Dwight Evans. There's a strong case. It's an old one but as a red Sox fan it's where my mind went. Also he had a great mustache
@marcszechter8852
@marcszechter8852 4 года назад
David Wright won’t make the hall of fame, but I think it’s worth looking at how great he was for a short period of time
@christopherjohnson4389
@christopherjohnson4389 3 года назад
I may be incredibly biased as a twins fans, but Joe absolutely deserves this honor. He was a great catcher and an above average firatbase men. His stats can get him in also who doesn't like a hometown kid staying a hometown kid.
@Matts_Smirkingrevenge
@Matts_Smirkingrevenge 3 года назад
See the thing about the MLB HoF vs the other sports is that the other sports let the "hall of very good" guys into their HoF. I mean football does this all the time. I tend to like the "big tent" HoF style... Dudes like Joe Mauer, Jim Edmonds, Fred McGriff, and Andy Pettitte are definitely on the cusp and probably deserve to have more conversation around their HoF case.
@lawldep
@lawldep 3 года назад
Mauer is one of those WHAT IF? If it wasn't for the multiple concussions is he able to still hit for a high average? I think he would have. He wasn't a power hitter he just had godlike hand eye coordination. So even as age would have cought up to him he would have still been fine.
@seannovack3834
@seannovack3834 3 года назад
He's admitted his vision was blurry those final seasons and he STILL hit .270+ in the Majors
@MrLucasD123
@MrLucasD123 3 года назад
Intriguing hall of fame case: Todd Helton
@michaelbaucom4019
@michaelbaucom4019 3 года назад
He'll go if voters get over their bias about Colorado
@t-squared6406
@t-squared6406 3 года назад
yes,he was so good in the field,put the Ro ckies on the map,had he not had a back injury,he would gave easily hit over 400 HRs,glad he was loyal and didn't go after the money with the Yankees!
@brandonsheumaker2673
@brandonsheumaker2673 3 года назад
Another case of two careers: before back injury and after. It's a real shame we didn't see more of pre-injury Helton otherwise this wouldn't even be a question.
@t-squared6406
@t-squared6406 3 года назад
@@brandonsheumaker2673 no doubt
@colinmckendrick9803
@colinmckendrick9803 3 года назад
Lol Helton is a no brainer
@kaetce
@kaetce 3 года назад
If joe mauer doesn’t make it. Then that’s a SHAME
@mrfeast7751
@mrfeast7751 9 месяцев назад
I agree he was such a great rookie p.s he was my favorite player
@jordanlorenzo7909
@jordanlorenzo7909 4 месяца назад
Good news, he made it
@hendog5396
@hendog5396 3 года назад
Send joe to the HOF!
@bryantsteury8910
@bryantsteury8910 4 года назад
I think he'll get in as well based on the fact (in part) he was a consummate professional his entire career as well and was with one team. The numbers may be slightly above what is needed, but his total person will help I'd have to think
@lazyidiotofthemonth
@lazyidiotofthemonth 3 года назад
You are forgetting something huge that has nothing to do with stats, the sportswriters like Joe Mauer, hes a guy who grew up and played for the home team, and didn't take the big deal from the Yankees or Dodgers. It was no fluke that Joe Mauer was the face of the MLB and MLB the Show. The Sportswriters hate Barry Bonds, and surprise surprise hes not in the hall of fame.
@paulbrower4265
@paulbrower4265 3 года назад
Barry Bonds is suspected of better performance through chemistry.
@t-squared6406
@t-squared6406 3 года назад
was surpried hometown player wasn't mentioned,that is huge,even SI talked about it!!!
@Molorange
@Molorange 3 года назад
Curt schilling is another guy they don’t like and that’s probably the best comparison to mauer in terms of name recognition and prestige
@icrye2470
@icrye2470 4 года назад
Different video topic - best draft year ever by an MLB team
@noah_that_bills_fan1613
@noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 года назад
Pretty much every team: 2011
@UpperGrooveRacing
@UpperGrooveRacing 4 года назад
As a twins fan, I really enjoyed this video. Keep up the great underrated content!
@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
Tim Hortons Cup Series thank you!
@dennesey
@dennesey 3 года назад
Really well-done analysis. Being a lifelong Twins fan, I've mainly relied on the eye test when contemplating Joe's HOF case. My big knock on him is that his game-winning/altering hits highlight reel is pretty thin. Offensively, not much of a game-breaker. I would have liked to have seen him break the 100 runs or RBI's/200 hits thresholds at least once or play 150+ games more than once in his 15 seasons, but his individual accolades as a catcher should get him in.
@BarraKudaNation
@BarraKudaNation 3 года назад
My man, you are way too underrated for how incredible your videos are! Keep up the amazing work!
@michaelcook5792
@michaelcook5792 3 года назад
Mauer should be inducted as he had one of the ten best primes of any catcher in MLB history. On another note, you misunderstood the dWAR stat. His dWAR at 1B is only negative because it includes the positional adjustment (which is negative for first basemen). On fielding alone, he was 23 runs above average as a first baseman from 2014-2018, or about 2.5 wins.
@jubz2163
@jubz2163 3 года назад
Mark Buehrle would be interesting for this kind of video, one of the few pitchers to get 200+ wins in the 21st century
@cheapwaxchronicles
@cheapwaxchronicles 3 года назад
I think the low vote turnout of Pudge to the HoF us more due to his later years being overshadowed by the home run chase and the attentions of fellow stud catcher Mike Piazza, as well as being saddled with some terrible teams at the start and tail end of his career. I'm also a Twins fan, but as just a baseball fan I believe Mauer should be inducted based on his entire body of work as a player on the field as well as being an outstanding MLB ambassador off the field.
@catcherdaily
@catcherdaily 3 года назад
I love this channel. Keep up the good work!!!
@TheEnderTaz25
@TheEnderTaz25 3 года назад
Mauer was a catcher who hit .306 over a a 15 year career. I think he absolutely should be in the hall.
@ryanthompsonthompson820
@ryanthompsonthompson820 3 года назад
Please do Don Mattingly. I know his numbers went down toward the end of his playing days but he had some monster seasons.
@MelvinZoopers
@MelvinZoopers 2 года назад
Great video! Being a Twins fan & having watched Mauer his whole career I was somewhat on the fence but I know how much we love him here in Minnesota. I have always thought with the MVP & 3 batting titles all while catching he should go in. The 3rd title puts him in. Go Joe!
@BigfootBreaks
@BigfootBreaks 3 года назад
Michael Young would be a great HOF video candidate. #2 hitter behind Ichiro for most of his career in Texas.
@clintchirpich7159
@clintchirpich7159 3 года назад
Very well done video! Tim Hudson would make an interesting case.
@samsportstalk5404
@samsportstalk5404 4 года назад
My choices Billy Wagner Dave Parker John olerud Keith Hernandez
@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
SPM18 I definitely want to look at Keith Hernandez at some point
@stevejohnson174
@stevejohnson174 3 года назад
Billy Wagner's case comes down to: Do you believe the BEST left handed relief pitcher in history belongs in the Hall?
@kodyolerud
@kodyolerud 3 года назад
John Olerud you say?👀
@joshconnell8797
@joshconnell8797 3 года назад
Wagner should
@hugrad99
@hugrad99 3 года назад
Dave Parker and John Olerud, I’m on board with for the hall of fame.
@paco4329
@paco4329 4 года назад
Great video! I love Mauer and I think he’ll get in!
@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
Paco thanks!
@anticipation2796
@anticipation2796 3 года назад
just found this channel love the content! PLEASE do Scott rolen!
@ousamaabdu794
@ousamaabdu794 3 года назад
Scott Rolen is a definite HOFer, he will be in there shortly
@gavinli2443
@gavinli2443 3 года назад
Johan santana and Felix hernandez. Really enjoyed the vid!
@rogeriovaladao7969
@rogeriovaladao7969 3 года назад
I really enjoy your video
@seannovack3834
@seannovack3834 3 года назад
I agree completely. "Above-Average" doesn't sound like a great Hall of Fame argument, unless you are "Above-Average" all the players in that position currently in the Hall of Fame. I'm not certain he'll get in on the first ballot, though voters love a good story as well as good stats, and spending your entire career with your hometown team after being drafted #1 and despite being offered millions more to play in other markets (and I'm looking at you Yankees!) is a pretty good story,. Both Mauer and Morneau's numbers would have been better had Target Field been designed to favor left-handed batters. Talk about a couple of guys who had their careers derailed by concussions!
@snarfblatblues
@snarfblatblues 3 года назад
Well done video.
@MR-wc9lh
@MR-wc9lh 3 года назад
Based on Joe's prime when he played Catcher, his play merits his inclusion in the Hall Of Fame. He won three batting titles, one MVP award, and was a six-time All-Star. He was in the top-ten in MVP voting four times during the five year period from years 2006 - 2010; he won three Gold Gloves and four Silver Sluggers during this five year period. Joe was the main reason the Twins won Division championships in 2006, 2009 and 2010. After physical problems forced Joe to stop playing Catcher and become a First-Baseman, Joe gave his best effort and became a very good fielder at First-Base. His last five years playing while physically diminished should not detract from his great seasons as a Catcher. Joe Mauer belongs in the Hall of Fame.
@blaked.6058
@blaked.6058 3 года назад
Agreed, well done vid!
@brendenk5694
@brendenk5694 3 года назад
Would love to see Johan Santana's case
@stevendeckert6373
@stevendeckert6373 3 года назад
Shame he fell off the ballot after only one year. His peak was almost Koufax like, though he didn't have the postseason accolades of Koufax.
@LDQBBQ
@LDQBBQ 3 года назад
Very well presented case. You swayed me. If you would have just asked me and given me a chance to look at bbref, I'd have said no. But compared to catchers, he's near the top all-time. And if we're not electing catchers because of their suppressed numbers compared to other positions, that's wholly unfair. He's in.
@w_4ca
@w_4ca 3 года назад
He’s the only AL catcher to win a batting title and he won 3 of them. First catcher since the 40s to win one period. Along with an MVP, 3 gold gloves, and 5 silver sluggers. He was one of, if not the best catcher in baseball for a period of time. The lack of postseason success in Minnesota I think is what could keep him out which is a real shame.
@goldwingdwarrior
@goldwingdwarrior 3 года назад
The three batting titles alone as a catcher puts him in as far as I am concerned.
@michaelbolin9880
@michaelbolin9880 3 года назад
Please do Todd Helton!! Love the videos!
@dylanmalo8492
@dylanmalo8492 3 года назад
hey i know im late but id love to see a hall of fame case for patrice bergeron from the bruins. love your videos everything is so in depth you satisfy my sports nerd side fucking perfect so thank you haha
@vintageoddballcards6103
@vintageoddballcards6103 4 года назад
Yes! He should make it.
@CharmCityGamer
@CharmCityGamer 3 года назад
He definitely should. I can't remember a more dominant catcher than Joe. He is the only catcher to ever win an AL batting title, much less 3 of them! He also won three consecutive Gold Glove Awards (2008-2010), five Silver Slugger Awards (including three in a row) and the 2009 AL Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award. As of 2020, he is the most recent catcher to win (or even place in the top three in the voting) the MVP award in the American League.
@epholson97
@epholson97 3 года назад
Joe Mauer is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer for sure, in my opinion. He was the best catcher in the league during his prime years, which lasted longer than most catcher's prime years. I think his never being linked to PED's in an era that was still plagued with players using them should be a significant factor in the decision making process. Also, he was the lone bright spot for the Twins organization at different points in his career and many Twins fans consider him a major reason the Twins avoided being relocated (ie the Montreal Expos) and were able to get a new, baseball-only stadium.
@RileyTNTlego
@RileyTNTlego 3 года назад
I'm not sure he'll get in on the first ballot, but I think he should get in eventually. Also I think it would be interesting to cover Tony Oliva and Jim Kaat in your Hall of Fame Case series.
@Nipinpeaches
@Nipinpeaches 3 года назад
Tony O not being in the Hall is still a shame.
@DangFee78
@DangFee78 Год назад
He is now
@spotlightsportspodcast4385
@spotlightsportspodcast4385 3 года назад
Yadier Molina- intriguing HOF Case
@Tipzyyy
@Tipzyyy 3 года назад
tbh i couldnt make it through the video, the stats were boring me... but when you're the face of a franchise for over a decade, and you're productive throughout...that should be a key factor. Joe put a lot of people in the seats, some were good teams, some were bad...regardless, he was one of the main draws. when you watched the twins, you knew he was going to do something that made you go, wow
@rickkassner4555
@rickkassner4555 3 года назад
Mauer is like a guy from the 1920's who just happens to played the modern game. I think that throwback appeal plus his numbers deserve him to get in.
@lukethenuke1667
@lukethenuke1667 4 года назад
How about Dave Parker, Lou Whitaker, Dale Murphy, or Jeff Kent.
@TheBrainSpecialist
@TheBrainSpecialist 3 года назад
They'd all have to be veterans committee, none of them are still on the ballot
@lukethenuke1667
@lukethenuke1667 3 года назад
@THE BRAIN SPECIALIST jeff Kent still on the ballot
@ousamaabdu794
@ousamaabdu794 3 года назад
The only one I would take out of all of the above is Sweet Lou.
@noah_that_bills_fan1613
@noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 года назад
Jeff kent got in
@TheBrainSpecialist
@TheBrainSpecialist 3 года назад
@@noah_that_bills_fan1613 nope, only 14%
@ucfknight07
@ucfknight07 3 года назад
Dwight Gooden...hear me out. Before the drugs, he was an absolute beast. He wasn’t a stats stacker like those goons on the Braves staff.
@andrewlewis1893
@andrewlewis1893 3 года назад
I'm a Cardinals fan, and we have a few players (both past and present) that are close HOF cases. I try not to be biased, but I need an unbiased third party to take a look. Scott Rolen, Jim Edmonds, and Yadier Molina come to mind as some of my favorite players who are polarizing cases.
@jackharris2654
@jackharris2654 3 года назад
As a Minnesotan thank you for this he is highly slept on
@backyardbaseball2006
@backyardbaseball2006 3 года назад
Im still kinda confused at how u said Mauer was at LEAST top 10 in the league in every defensive metric had OVER a 50%CS rate and lead the league in fielding% yet you call him an "Average Defensive Catcher"🤔
@mattthompson9351
@mattthompson9351 3 года назад
There were only 11 catchers qualified
@backyardbaseball2006
@backyardbaseball2006 3 года назад
@@mattthompson9351 lmao makes so much more sense...it is crazy tho IF THAT'S TRUE how being healthy and being consistent REALLY is that valuable think how crazy it is that only 11catchers played in half the games in that 4 year span to qualify for fielding percentage leaderboard
@acrisptaco8876
@acrisptaco8876 4 месяца назад
He did it :)
@Arden2000
@Arden2000 3 года назад
Mark buehrle has a very interesting hall of fame case. Consistently great for a long time (almost 60 rWar) but not dominant
@colinmckendrick9803
@colinmckendrick9803 3 года назад
If not for a retarded manager pulling him in his last start He would have joined a class of only 3 other pitchers to pitch 200 innings 15 straight seasons
@jaydentorres254
@jaydentorres254 Год назад
Plus he was on the cover of both the show 10 and 11
@stevendeckert6373
@stevendeckert6373 3 года назад
Good analysis. He will definitely be in, though I'd be surprised if he gets in in 2024 on his first ballot.
@lesgobrandon9444
@lesgobrandon9444 Год назад
He has no shot at first ballot . 2100 Hits is a fair cry from the 3000 needed for that . It took Tony O and Jim Kaat till this year to get in as there is a bias against teams out here in the sticks
@mlbvintagecardcollector505
@mlbvintagecardcollector505 3 года назад
You should also do a Torii Hunter Vid. I didn't realize he had nearly 2500 hits, 350 hrs and a .280 lifetime ba along with 9 gold gloves. I understand he and Andruw Jones are similar, but I believe if you can let Baines in, all these guys should get the call. Baines never had 9 gold gloves...
@mikeokoneski3781
@mikeokoneski3781 2 года назад
I’m a life long Twins fan . I think Joe Mauer from St.Paul great athlete. Deserves to be in Twins Hall of fame. Great career. Number retired. Awesome. But Cooperstown is different top 1% Yes he won 3 batting titles 2006,2008,2009 . He was not behind the plate for every game He had big games hitting those years as a DH. Those DH at bats effect his average. Those other catchers in National league won those batting titles catching. No DH in National league. Stop using computer stats. 300 wins 500 homeruns 3000 hits. RBI’s . He was a great hitter. During those years 2006-2013 he caught 772 games out of a possible 1296 Avg 97 games per year out of 162. 920 games in 15 years He didn’t catch enough games Look up the numbers on baseball reference. Subtract DH plate appearances from his numbers . Then see if he wins batting titles. They don’t even talk about winning batting titles anymore. The talk about OPS. WAR
@ssweeps
@ssweeps 3 года назад
Thurman Munson, Gil Hodges, Tony Oliva.
@iraevans2013
@iraevans2013 3 года назад
I wish I could like this comment 3 times
@lordrevanz16
@lordrevanz16 3 года назад
An interesting case would be Dustin Pedroia. He has the accolades that you'd look for in a Hall of Fame career. The question with him is whether he career statistics are enough, and whether injuries shortening his career would be taken into account.
@armychowmein8021
@armychowmein8021 3 года назад
King Felix. He never had the run support to get many wins and he tapered off really early, but from 2006-2015, he was arguably the best pitcher in baseball.
@mezla_
@mezla_ 3 года назад
that washington fan at 7:18 saying "did he catch that?" is the highlight
@happycamper4385
@happycamper4385 2 года назад
He deserves to be put in. His prime was how long of some players whole career
@alexbenton6306
@alexbenton6306 2 года назад
Hall of Famer. Lot of good arguments here. This is subjective but the defining catchers of the 21st century are: Yadier Molina Salvador Perez Joe Mauer Buster Posey All four will be in the hall of fame at some point. Some first ballot some not but they all will and in my opinion all deserve it. You might notice an interesting commonality here. In addition to being gold glovers to varying extents, MVPs, batting champions, home run champs, world champs and so on (not each one doing all of them but you get me) all 4 of these guys...have played their entire career with the same team. Posey and Mauer already did and you’re insane if you think Perez and Molina won’t hang it up in Royal Blue and Cardinal Red. They set the standard for this century at the position for sure
@georgepress1261
@georgepress1261 2 года назад
Do a hall of fame cases for Jimmy Rollins. Imo I think he will get in, but would love to see you views on Rollins being in the hall
@XperimentalUnit
@XperimentalUnit 3 года назад
Hey there, nice vid. Just so you know, the past tense of cast is cast, not casted. Thanks for the content!
@johnwoida2584
@johnwoida2584 3 года назад
Joe Mauer is my favorite athlete of all time and got to love baseball
@robertanderson2898
@robertanderson2898 3 года назад
Twins Hall of Fame for sure. He did win 3 batting titles as a Catcher. Retired around the same age as Bench (but no one comes close to Johnny). I'm right around 50/50 on Mauer's case.......
@StoveBuscemi
@StoveBuscemi 3 года назад
Another intriguing case is Brian McCann: 15 seasons at C 7x All-Star 1x All-Star MVP 6x Silver Slugger 1x World Series Title
@bentighe4811
@bentighe4811 3 года назад
SportStorm, what's your take on Kirby Puckett? Deserving or not?
@ryanmills8416
@ryanmills8416 3 года назад
would love to see a jimmy rollins vid whether its about this or another aspect of his career
@notorious_grizz0104
@notorious_grizz0104 3 года назад
You should make a video of the MN Twins 2019 season
@rob31hockey
@rob31hockey 3 года назад
I vote for you to do one on Jorge Posada
@TheSkyline5467
@TheSkyline5467 3 года назад
Yeah he's going to get into the HOF. The reason is he's a good guy as well as a great player. I think if he was someone the media didn't like, it might be touch and go. If he wasn't a catcher, you'd want to see him hold up a little longer than he did.
@beccagibson5732
@beccagibson5732 Год назад
I feel like his time and success at the catching position and for his team in a way idk how to show in numbers but me as a fan he is the reason I was excited for the twins at the time as a fan. I’m a reds fan but I a baseball fan and I enjoy fun teams, they don’t all turn in to champions but those teams that you watch bc you feel like they could be exciting and win any game. He was the twins even after his legs failed him but what consistently the face of his team and position even after year not playing the position
@allyngraham6952
@allyngraham6952 3 года назад
I think its safe to say Joe was an ELITE catcher during his prime defensively
@alexbenton6306
@alexbenton6306 Год назад
To nitpick one statement: David Ortiz was absolutely That Guy™️ at the end In his final season he was an all star, won the silver slugger and placed 6th in the MVP voting. He had 87 extra base hits including a league leading 48 doubles and 38 homer runs (respectively the second and fourth highest single season totals of his incredible offensive career) He led the league with 127 RBI (his 4th best total) and posted an excellent 80 BB to 86 K mark. His slash line of .315/.401/.620 (the latter being the leagues best slugging mark) was good for a league leading 1.021 OPS. 4th best of his career but actually his 1 time leading the league his 164 OPS+ was the third best in his career and he led the league in intentional walks. So yes. David Ortiz was unequivocally That Guy™️ at the end
@nopejones9542
@nopejones9542 2 года назад
i'm to young to have watched bench, but if i'm picking a catcher mauer is my first pick like i said i never saw bench. and i truly believe that 2 things hurt his career 1. going to the twins if he catches on any other team they work on his power, for ppl that dont know mauer is one of the most athletic gifted ppl that has played sports and he would have figured it out. 2. staying at catcher as i said above he was as athletic as they come and could have played anywhere and i really think another team would have made him move to the outfield or even shortstop. i have thought this from day one the twins wrecked a all time great player but joe was so good he still is one of the greatest catchers ever.
@alexhisem1852
@alexhisem1852 4 года назад
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@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
Darkshark 744 thanks!
@darkstar9751
@darkstar9751 4 года назад
Dawg I was in the Dimmu Stream😂
@jessestewart947
@jessestewart947 3 года назад
You should do the Hall of Fame case of Tim Hudson
@Christlockhart1
@Christlockhart1 3 года назад
Mark freaking Grace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@davidsposato6977
@davidsposato6977 Год назад
A video justifying why Keith Hernandez should be in the Hall of Fame. Best defensive 1st Baseman across the history of the sport and he has the accolades. Lacks power numbers for his position, but a very fine career hitter.
@frozenberg7369
@frozenberg7369 3 года назад
Any sport? How about the NHL. - Patrick Marleau - Rob Brind A'Mour - Roberto Luongo - Joe Thornton - Zach Parise - Eric Staal - Blake Wheeler - David Krejci Some of these cases are easy, some are more difficult.
@johnwlasuk5533
@johnwlasuk5533 3 года назад
Playing an entire career with one team helps HOF legacy I feel. Fans of that team love you more, and division opponents fans respect you more. Just look at Jeter. He is basically the average HOF'er if you go based off of strictly JAWS, but he was nearly unanimous. Post season success contributed, but he is also known for being a yankee his entire career. If he left for the Cardinals in 2010 he wouldn't be as highly regarded even if he put up exactly the same numbers. Would be interesting to see if someone pulled the JAWS stats on HOF'ers who played majority of their career with 1 team (lets say 80% of their games), vs guys that moved around more.
@lukelove3276
@lukelove3276 4 года назад
Maybe one about Jon lester and a vid on what Craig kimbrel has to do to get in!
@drewtheiss3064
@drewtheiss3064 6 месяцев назад
How many HOFers played 4 or 5 years too many? Why should be penalized for retiring before his skills went down the tube?
@georgepress1261
@georgepress1261 2 года назад
For a catcher who won 3 batting titles, 3 gg, 6 all star games, a mvp and 2000 hits mostly as a catcher. Imo he should be in the hall of fame
@tomassantos4508
@tomassantos4508 4 месяца назад
He did it!
@andrei1971
@andrei1971 Год назад
I wonder if Javey Lopez should make the Hall of Fame. He had a great career calling pitches for 3 HoF pitchers, and then he went to the Orioles and continued knocking homeruns out of the park.
@paulbrower4265
@paulbrower4265 3 года назад
Lou Whitaker, Detroit Tigers. Baseball Reference has him as the player most similar to Joe Morgan, quite possibly the greatest second baseman ever. Whitaker had a career about four years shorter, and the difference is a huge number of walks. Whitaker did get lots of walks, but still only about half as many as Morgan. I'm not going to trivialize walks; pitchers do whatever they can to avoid throwing walks that in some circumstances (nobody on base) are as bad as singles. Take out the walks and stolen bases (Whitaker didn't really steal lots of bases) and the career states are similar. Defensively he was a slick-fielding second baseman. Offensively he was a left fielder.
@hardyworld
@hardyworld 3 года назад
3rd Basemen are terribly under-represented in the HOF compared to all other positions. Scott Rolen, Graig Nettles, Ken Boyer, Dick Allen, etc. all deserve some respect.
@BelugaVGC
@BelugaVGC 3 года назад
Pete Rose. The most controversial hall of fame case.
@theginjaninja6394
@theginjaninja6394 4 года назад
David Wright next
@SportStorm23
@SportStorm23 4 года назад
The Ginja Ninja very interesting case I’d imagine
@theginjaninja6394
@theginjaninja6394 4 года назад
SportStorm He was so good when healthy but he played injured for so long
@icrye2470
@icrye2470 4 года назад
this is chief
@SmittyCBaseball
@SmittyCBaseball 4 года назад
The Ginja Ninja I make baseball videos on my channel and it would mean a lot if you could support me.
@clash5j
@clash5j 3 года назад
Terrific player early on. Injuries hampered him and only the Mets would build a new stadium with dimensions that hurt their best player.
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