Joe Rogan & Bill Burr on UNATTAINABLE BEAUTY STANDARDS OUTRAGE!!! Podcast Reaction 

We can push toward healthier lifestyles, but let’s also incorporate the 10 second rule. If a person can’t change what you’re judging in 10 seconds, don’t point it out.

I feel like “society” has been saying that fat is the standard for the past few years, which I feel is really dangerous. The biggest health problem in the US is obesity.

If you are in a movie, it is a visual medium, get in shape if that is what the role is.

I personally disagree with the 'body positivity' rhetoric as I feel it panders too much and not everybody can be classed as attractive. Steve Buscemi is a really good actor, but honestly he would have no chance auditioning to play 'Thor' or 'Superman' as require a high level of physical appeal. Both Henry Cavill and Chris Hemsworth are next level 'prilly' and if we cannot accept the 'beautiful people' exist, we should simply not comment or compliment others on their appearance.

The soft mayor of London banned the pictures on the London Underground because all the feminists were "outraged" by pictures of beautiful and confident women in bikinis.

You clearly understand what Joe meant by his statement, so how come you assumed others "might" take it offensively when you didn't? Why does someone else's "potentially" hurt feelings take precedent over our own "Varifiable," perspective? That's ideology overstepping its place!

Big difference between "Hot" and "beautiful." Same way there really is no such thing as a hot fat guy.

"I've seen many many beautiful women of all shapes and sizes, so I don't think that he should say it that way...." If you have your own personal tastes or preferences regarding people's appearances, no one's criticizing that. That wasn't the question here however. Here's why: 1. Women (I assume you are one) don't get to decide what men should find attractive. 2. The discussion was about what's expected from a romantic lead actor (male or female). These are films. Films cost money, so they need to make even more money. What's going to bring men to watch the same love story we've seen a thousand times? Amazing in shape beautiful women on the big screen for all to enjoy. That will be more of a motivation for men to go see the films than their female counterparts who are actually there for the story/romance. If you lower or remove the standard of beauty in those productions, you lose money. You lose money because men aren't going to go watch them. One example of "get woke, go broke".

So when these people see Michael Jordan on a magazine, they go: "That's unobtainable skill level!"

This *Joe Rogan* character you speak of happens to have the largest podcast in the world to sign 100 million *Spotify* deal is not only a comedian former host of *Fear Factor* & commutator for the *UFC*

Body sensitivity is cool unless you're a fat or short man 😂

Don't sleep on Joe he talks about all types of things

Guys will never change when it comes down to attraction 🤷‍♂️ women can't force us to like something we can't.

I'm all for body positivity too...so when my friends are clearly unhealthy because of their weight, I say something. I keep it positive but let them know they need to make some changes. Obesity is not healthy. Unhealthy is not super attractive.

you should react to "2 Bears 1 Cave" podcast's story called "For Jennifer Aniston's Safety", please

If someone told me to lose weight to star in a film I would do two-a-days at the gym and become a pescatarian.

Your hair is an unattainable level of beautiful right now tho for real lmao

Maaan, I'm so glad you're doing all these other kind of Bill Burr videos. Even the audio only ones!

Yeah, the list of US actors I watch is growing smaller every day. Basically everything made by Disney is a no go zone for me.

I feel Bill Burr, Joe Rogan, and yourself make some good points. I feel everyone has their own take of what is beautiful. Which to me is the best definition of the word. Because we all have our own opinion of what's beautiful.

It’s always attractive girls like Jay that are championing other ladies not conforming to the beauty standards of society. That’s like a billionaire encouraging you to not try and attain wealth. “There’s nothing wrong with not being able to afford anything. Being homeless means you contribute to society just as much as I do”

Yet if a man were to be asked if lose weight or shave or grow his hair out, etc and he complained, women would call him weak, an asshole, etc but let it be a woman and suddenly the double standard comes out on full display with absolute denial in her words.

These two men speak serious truth and comedy. They're talking about the ones giving shit to the world all bc they can't be naturally pretty enough to be a 10 and wont work out and eat right to be sexy fit. It's flipped...we don't judge the outsiders the outsiders judge us bc they cant get INSIDE.

7:51 FOR THE MOVIE///context matters.

I guess just know what line of work you're getting into, and if that involves dropping a few pounds to make a million bucks just drop the attitude and get to work? Me personally I don't care if she's got that extra 15 lol just don't let it get totally out of hand

you definetly don't have a problem with those unattainable beauty standards

It's unbelievable how actresses are complaining about having to get in shape, while actors never complain when they're asked to get buff, ripped, and all those visual requirements. If you're gonna be in a movie that specifically want a good looking lead then just do what you're told to do. It's not like they want you to change from obese to skinny, no they don't expect extreme change. Not that hard. If you want the job then do what you need to do. Why slander other women who work hard to look beautiful and feel good about themselves just because you don't want to do the effort?

Anything Joe Rogan & Joey Diaz. You'll bust a gut

I want to know why Bill is knocking our european pants! Bill! What's up with that?!? 😂😂😂

I read an article the other day which was saying how obesity is a bigger health risk than smoking. It's a shame in the West how people are now celebrating this type of body.

As long as you're on a roll with Bill Burr, check out "Bill Burr's Emotional Side".

Ok she's gorgeous but damn....is a reaction channel not a SIMPING channel

Body Positivity; should be the end result of a life well-lived, not a goal. Likewise; the self-esteem movement is a load of crock. Self-esteem; is a by-product of a good moral life, not a goal to shoot for in and of itself.

A woman saying another woman is beautiful is meaningless. Society are the people who buy the tickets, if they find skinny “hot”, then that is what is hot.

I respect how you how you have the courage balance your extreme beauty out a with large booger partially tucked up your nose. The kids should be inspired by your conscientiousness.

I disagree with the fact society sets the beauty standard. Some people are born with better genetics than others, but it doesn't mean there less valuable as a person.

and Bill actually wrong, we are per head nowhere near the obesity level of the US, Fish and Chips not withstanding (and anyway we actually eat curries more than just about anything else)

It's evolution. Brains respond to simetry. We all have to deal. If I want something, I must do what will get me there, and not just what I want or what makes me feel better. It's insane to always do the same expecting different results every time.

I feel the difference with the Rhianna example is that she is making a product for everyone because not everyone has the same body type. Which to Joes point, it helps make her more money to cast that wide of a net. Where the focus on the film is to get the best visual outcome (if the movie is centered around beautiful people) and want to have people who provide that.

Tv is about beautiful people that makes us feel bad about ourselves lmao

For a movie I do agree with Joe. Look at Raging Bull, De Niro had to put on 60 pounds for that role!! When asked about his experience, he said it started off easy but got harder the more weight he put on.

People have to put on fat to play roles too. It's ridiculous. If you are an actor, or actress, and not willing to go to the gym, shave your head, diet, put on a few pounds, drop a few pounds, or grow a beard, then you don't want, or need the part bad enough, and someone who fits the part (as is) or is willing to do what it takes then let that happen. Do your thing, but don't bitch about it. I could be the most talented basketball player on earth, but if I refuse to stay in shape, and can't play for more than 5 minutes a game, I'm gonna get cut. People need to stop!

the tall nordic country thing is real af. so here in america the average male height is about 5'9, and think of all the tall people in america. now realize that in norway, iceland, denmark, sweden, all 6'0" average male height.

Movies and shows are fantasies and in something like that certain standards of appearance are expect. If Chris Hemsworth played Jason Voorhees without that scary makeup would it still be same movie.

I don't think that story about banning ads featuring unatainable beauty in the U.K is true, I'm from the U.K and I never heard of that, but of it IS true it's pathetic.

Love you Jay Shara! And your channel too!

One of my favorite BB moments. JR has many great guests.

joe was saying a women shouldnt get mad IF shes starting in a movie playing a hot women,

Thanks for turning me on to the Rhianna lingerie line thing. That's so cool.

Joe rogan has an amazing podcast and the conversations he has with something many different are very interesting and worth reacting to

There is actually an ideal body type that most men prefer and its the hourglass shape. This has been proven in studies. Just as women have an ideal body type for men and its the inverted triangle shape (wide shoulders to smaller waist). And I really doubt that will ever change no matter how hard they try to push the "big is beautiful" propaganda

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I love you JayShara! 😍😘

There are a massive array of body types that millions upon millions of people find attractive, but Hollywood is a business, and they want to fill as many seats as possible, so they appeal to the lowest common denominator, which is slim women and muscular men

While I'd agree, no one should be treated badly because of how they look, ever. I'm not totally on board with the body positive point of view. I believe it sets a bad standard. It says (maybe not directly) that you should be Ok with being fat and unhealthy. imo That should never be promoted. Especially where young minds are involved. Eating healthy and staying in shape should be the Only push. It is literally life and death imo.

He said you have to lose weight to look beautiful for a movie role not everyday life

Joaquin Phoenix in "Joker" is a prime example of how men have to lose weight for a role. 52 lbs. in Joaquin's case. I'm glad your acknowledge and know that.

For JayShara...unattainable beauty is just standard. 😍😍😍

Being fat used to be a sign of prosperity, wealth, respect and security. In a lot of nations. Because everyone else was hungry and malnourished. Now that we have science and are more educated about the human body, this is no longer true. Being fat is unhealthy. There are so, so many health problems associated with it. But I’ve also got friends that are fat and very, very active. They would outlast a skinny person playing “full” court basketball any day of the week. I believe everyone plateau’s. The same with lifting weights to get bigger. My opinion is as long as you are active daily, the weight doesn’t matter because you’re always conditioning the heart and lungs. Would they do better if they lost weight? Doubt it. You’re own brain knows the body type you have bettter than any study. The BMI chart is just generalizations. Its true for a lot. Edit: I have to add. JayShara, you already know you are one of the “beautiful” people. And the standard of beauty is not changing. It’s always going to be perfect angular features with a healthy body. That’ll never change because of survival instincts. The fat can’t run from a massacre. Not far enough anyway. It was comically portrayed in “Zombieland”. Rule #4: Cardio. “Poor fat bastard never stood a chance.”

Bill Burr and Joe Rogan need to be in a movie. Possibly a buddy cop comedy/action flick. That would be Rad!

Your re-wording of Joe's words was well put. Glad you clarified lol.

hey i got down a rabbit hole tbh of your videos but is it a black thing to literally have incredible hair every video but also every style imaginable you look amazing. every video you have a different look and its amazing tbh

As a short and ugly Swede, I do my part in making everyone around me look beautiful 😂😂

Love these reactions.

From my understanding, UK have banned photoshopped bodies - or the ad have to say that the bodies are manipulated.

Great reaction as always. More Joe Rogan please. Love that guy.

I get what you mean about "being hot" and there being people of all sizes that other people think are beautiful. The point Joe is making is that there is a certain "type" or standard that appeals to MOST people, generally speaking; that the vast majority of people will find really attractive, and that's what studios want in certain movies because then it appeals to the largest audience possible. Not that their looks are the only thing that people will focus on, but it helps to get the most amount of attention, which is obviously the point. It's not that it's their only purpose in the movie, or that it's the only thing that is used to get attention, it's that it HELPS to get MORE attention. Everyone likes seeing attractive people, that's never going to not be the case. It's not "objectifying" people, it's using that fact to give people what they want in order to better serve the movie/show. I do agree that attractiveness shouldn't ALWAYS be the focus, and that people of all walks of life should have the chance to participate in various roles and that talent should be first and foremost concern for the vast majority of roles. But there ARE certain roles where physical attractiveness definitely is more important, because the nature of the role requires it, and that someone with equal talent who is more attractive shouldn't lose out on getting that role simple because certain people think a person is "unattainably hot" or something, because that's absolutely ridiculous.

Don't know what a lot of folks are buggin out on her for... I think Jay had a very reasonable take away from this conversation

that was Funny, loved it X

Great reaction. I love these

I agree with you 100%. People all have different body shapes and sizes and they have their own beauty. Not everyone can be the “ideal” body type which has for years been promoted by advertising and movies. Besides, I think what counts more is how beautiful a person’s personality is. I’ve known many gorgeous/handsome people who were absolute monsters. Gotta look at the whole package. Nice discussion. 😊🌹

Man thats nonsense, if you are an actor or actress your job is to specifically play a role as best as you can. Asking you to change your physique its part of the "playing a role as best as you can" it is not like you are playing as the same person all the time... man thats why actors like Christian bale an Joaquin Phoenix are well known and respected, becauss they go through unbelievable and extreme transformations... because they have their roles as top priority

It’s not to look hot. It’s to look hot for a role. It’s a job

Fear and loathing in Las Vegas... Benicio Del Toro gained more than 45 pounds (18 kg) in nine weeks before filming began, eating 16 donuts a day

with the Rihanna example and how she has different types of all people... it's cuz she's Rihanna and her name is on the label. It's a marketing thing. Everyone will buy it and if she puts more diverse shapes and sizes she will make more money. It's a win win strategy for her.

I think YOUR beauty standard is unattainable. LOL. Your HAIR! dAMN that is gorgeous. I've never been much of a fashionista (white thirty-somethin' year old guy wearing jeans n' t-shirts here), but I have to say that something about the way you style yourself is pure ART. LOVE THAT HAIR STYLE. Love your videos and just happy with how you give yourself that attention

The woman (or the man) is supposed to look hot to attract people to see the movie. If you're an amazing actor (with a great resume) you can get by on talent (Tom Hanks, Denzel, Meryl Streep, etc). Otherwise, you gotta do everything you can to draw a crowd to see your flick. Women line up to see movies with Ryan Gosling because they want to sleep with him...it's the same with everybody in movies.

All right here is how it works whoever wrote a novel book or film script that becomes a movie if the writer say's a character in the book or script is around 130-135 lbs the actor or actress needs to get down to 130-135lbs for image accuracy of that character they are going to play... Just like how they put prosthetic scars and fake tattoos on characters if said character has a scar or tattoos in the novel book or film script...heck Matthew McConahay lost a good deal of weight to play his character in Dallas Buyer's Club...but hey it shouldn't even be a issue anymore now they can do life like CGI body imagery now just throw actors and actresses in green bodysuits and they can scan models bodies of certain weight ranges then they can just insert the models body on the green body suit... Problem solved

Love your hair

You are totally misunderstanding what Bill said; he is not saying that anyone has to look sexy, he is just saying that that is what you have to conform to in a movie part. So; you aren't actually disagreeing with him.

You should do Bill Burr on fat people lol

I'm 6'5" . I'd love to go there

Actually there is sort of a blue print. Scientists took simple outline drawings of a range of women's bodies and showed them to males all over the world. They took surveys from all over the globe, from South American tribes to major cities across earth. Runway models are too thin, but there is a small range which men find attractive.

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If it’s in the script for someone to look a certain way thats the script. Fit it or leave simple as that

I agree with most of what bill said. As usual Joe was speaking out his ass.

You one of my favorite youtube person to watch

The Icelanders have a joke about the Scots, they say "Our people look like this because we stole or killed the best of yours"

I can see the points on both sides for this one but I view it like this. Hating someone for having an attractive physical appearance is akin to hating someone for being gay, or a different race, or for having a mental disability, or whatever. You're showing prejudice against them for something completely beyond their control. But when I think more about their conversation, they kinda whiffed on the biggest point in favor of shaming "unattainable beauty standards". After all, that phrase didnt really roll out in protest of genetics. It rolled out against modifying people's looks with photoshop, and then presenting that as truth. I think thats where the problem is. The big lie of being photoshop beautiful.

JayShara, you're very intelligent and funny. That is why I find you attractive. Period. And although you also happen to posses great physical beauty, to me, that is secondary. I'm the kind of guy who sees the big picture in all aspects of life. Thus, I am keenly aware that physical beauty is oh-so-fleeting. And there are no exceptions. I like your views on Hollyweird producers and directors (and society in general) who coax or force women actors to lose weight. You are spot on, in my opinion. And even though men are far more visually oriented than women are (as a rule), I'm not one of those guys. For me, a woman should possess much more than just looks. I find that women who have energy, intellect, and humor are usually very sexy, no matter if they are considered to be overweight, according to show business elites. In fact, if I were to speak from a visual standpoint only, women who are "overweight" are far more attractive than underweight women are.

Beautiful women of all shapes and sizes is not a statement an honest man can agree to, we just don't see it that way.

Here's the deal, beauty is absolutely in the eye of the beholder, ans societal standards of beauty change based on region and era. Just think about renaissance paintings. Most paragons of beauty at the time were pretty zaftig. These days, by and large feminine beauty centers around a svelte appearance. There's a subset of the population that whines that this is unobtainable. These people need to shut the hell up. I'm 6'4" and 240 lbs. I'm chubby I don't get mad at Jason Momoa for being better looking than I. That dude works his butt off to look that good. I'm lazy, and I like pizza and beer. Being that handsome takes work that I'm not willing to do.

Me (just starting this video and finishing your intro where you say you don’t know anything about what Joe is going to say...) : Oh, damn, this is going to be good.

If you look at Sean Connery in old Bond movies and compare him to Daniel Craig, there is a difference. Movie stars are expected to look a lot more fit nowadays. Same time the audience has gotten more obese. So at the end of the day the difference between your average person and all the stars you see on screen and online daily has gotten bigger.

There are unhealthy standards for men, it's just not talked about because we don't care as much. Some actors had to actually crash diet and do a *_SHIT TON_* of crazy shit. It seems that women compete with each other on beauty standards compared to men. I just want a smaller stomach and not die from diabetes too soon. I wanna play more games in my future. When you are playing a specific role, yeah, they are looking for that role for that reason. Not all women in Hollywood have to be beautiful for their roles, but that is the character the role is. Some characters are hot, some are ugly, some are okay, some are thing/thick/muscular/obese. It depends on the character. Movies are simply stories that somebody want others to act in. The actor may have suggestions, but to make a movie change for the actor in spite of the story the creator made is unfair. That's why animation needs more respect than just live action.

There is a weight that is 15 pounds too heavy to be hot for every body. If you're 5'2" 15 pounds makes a big difference.

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I respect your opinion on the body positivity subject but I somewhat disagree. I am a big guy myself and I know that it was not an accident that I got to where I am. In fact I see that it was a lot of irresponsibility, lack of self-discipline, lack of self-control and addiction to the good feelings that I get from food that has led me to where I am. I think Society is all too accommodating of those lifestyle habits and I think it just really needs to change. Even though I am a person who would be targeted by it, I fully believe that we need to have some societal shaming of the overweight to get there Lives in order and actually work to improve themselves. I think that all the body positivity movement does is enable and reinforce people in their beliefs that they can do whatever they want, have absolutely no self-control and still have others obligated to call them beautiful and encourage them. We look at people who are smoking your kids with disgust and shame them publicly because we see it as unhealthy and it is considered a good thing in society to be like that. These days there is a movement to shame people into wearing masks, because they are putting others at risk and such blah blah blah. They don't. But if you want to put yourself at risk of heart attacks, diabetes, all kinds of other ailments. Increase the cost of healthcare around the country by your increased level of unhealthiness and increased need of a medical services. Do all of that and it is totally fine in fact you should do more of it than anybody who thinks otherwise is a bad person. I don't have any problem with creating products that cater to those people, I just don't think we should be Encouraging people and enabling them to stay that way.

well there is a difference between accpeting someone for who they are/how they look and telling someone that they need to do x to be in a movie or do a photoshoot/runway etc. Beacuse what thoose things are doing is selling an image. does that mean that they dont accept who you are? no it doesnt beacuse the person isnt the image, even if the person becomes related to that image.

A sexy person and a nice person can both be 'good' people. Some people just are not sexy(generally) doesn't mean they shouldn't model 'stuff', they just may never be "sexy". I used to be told by both men and women I was sexy, I'm now 70 and not sexy..I can get any haircut, wear the latest cloths ect still not sexy. Nice,wise, happy, content works for me.