Significant strikes landed: Round 1: Reyes - 23; Jones - 17 Round 2: Reyes - 33; Jones - 22 Round 3: Reyes - 26; Jones - 19 Round 4: Reyes - 13; Jones - 20 Round 5: Reyes - 21; Jones - 26 Jones: Two takedowns over Reyes but did nothing with it and the longest Reyes stayed on the ground was 3 or 4 seconds. Reyes: defended seven takedowns This is starting to look like people are just focusing on protecting established fighters instead of reward talented newcomers who clearly did more to deserve the win. Very sad.
Reyes landed 45 percent of his total strikes, Jones landed 62 percent of his total strikes. They both had nearly identical shots lands but Reyes a fewer more. Dominic landed more shots then Jones but missed more than he landed.
You only covered strikes. But that's only 1 category of judging the bout. Significant strikes landed, you covered that. Aggression. All jones. Octagon control. All jones. I agree with the decision as well as the unanimous based on the way this bout is judged. I don't agree with that 1 judge that jones won 4-1 rounds. But I still agree with the decision
@Alex Cthe round he wasn't aggressive he lost and I don't think anyone disagrees with"Reyes first two and Jones last two" it's clearly the third round that is the issue and personally I give it to Jones but honestly going into the fight I didn't like Reyes and by the end of the fight before the judges score I was seriously on edge because I didn't know who won
the first 3 rounds was on reyes maybe the judges scored it. 10-9 all three round on reyes favor. and the last 2rounds maybe scored them 10-8 in favor of jones. but i dont know
They need to hire retired fighters like Chuck Liddell, Forrest griffin, Tito Ortiz, bas rutten, hell any retired fighter to judge these fights. Problem would be solved.
@@MrLakeshow11 there would be a process for selecting them. In football, if an Arab country plays against a European country, they would chose a ref from the far east or the americas to ref the match.
@Htx457 How does it not make sense? He thought Jones won the fight and the handful of good shots he took that would knock out others impressed Rashad.....
He's just saying Jones has a phenomenal chin especially in MMA where you can literally get KO'd on accident. It's rare for someone at the highest level of competition taking bombs on a regular basis to show such a great chin like Jon or Khabib, especially Jon cause lightheavys hit lit mac trucks compared to lightweights. Besides everyone uses that example for Nate v Conor 2, even though Conor won the first 3 rounds, if the fight goes to the death Nate wins and so people feel robbed. Reyes was clearly a beaten man and Jon getting the takedowns, controlling the octagon, pressing the action and blocking or riding most of the "shots" Reyes landed won him the last 3 rounds for me anyway. Doesn't matter now though cause Reyes tasted the polish power and went to sleep.
@@owens7945 That flurry in round 1 really won the fight?? Come on now, Jones controlled the entire fight. Kept backing down Reyes easy and kept coming forward.
He said that was his personal opinion. Which everyone has my friend. Who are u to question joe anyways lol. Joe has been doing this for years and is a legit martial artist himself lol. Not saying Jon won but to question joe is stupid because he is the best with giving his honest opinions on a fight. The fact of the matter is the third round was to close and the fight went to Jon due to the way he finished the fight and Dominick faded just enough.
If you’re going to go with the philosophy “who would win to the death” then reverse the decisions for Diaz Conor 2. Conor was toast in those last rounds, if he had to go 30 seconds more, he was dead. Nate was still going strong
Lol if it was who would win to death then diaz would be dead when connor put him on the floor in round 1, he could have just started kneeing him but its against UFC rules. So we can only go by the rules that exist
People still bring this up and I'm no Conor fan but he obviously fought the bigger guy and had the balls to go up and do it sorry the second fight he was fucking Diaz up had that dude's face looking like hamburger but people gotta fan boy the Diaz brothers so hard they leave reality he should be ashamed Conor was able to even knock him on his ass with that reach and size difference
Done what differently? He knew this was a 5 round fight and still lost the last 2, that proved joes point lol. If it was 10 he would’ve lost for sure than. What would he do take the first rounds off? That would mean he wouldn’t even have the rounds he had rn. 3rd round was a draw as well
Right, Joe's comment of if it was to the death Jon would of won but how can you say that if the action never stops for these guys to get break and advice from there corners makes a big difference in the next round so if that's the logic Jon never goes back to the corner and he never get gets advice or breaks!
Joe is incredibly biased in this interview. Bringing up totally irrelevant comparisons like school yard fighting, fighting to the death and the so called “championship rounds”. EVERY round is scored evenly no matter what. What is the point in having rounds at all if the last two were to somehow hold more value? Reyes out struck Jones in the first 3 rounds. That’s not a guess it’s a fact. The stats clearly show that. Effective striking is the highest scoring criteria. The judges have clearly screwed up, yet Joe continues to grasp at straws with these ridiculous comparisons that literally have nothing to do with the way MMA fights are scored.
Mexico Native If that was true Reyes wouldn’t have been the cowering one later in the fight. Also didn’t you see the headlock from jones in that second round or am the dodging from jones. Reyes ran at him throwing punches and landed 1 body shot out of the 12 he threw. Edit: I meant headkick
@@ericrodrigues167 Nah man, you're choosing not to see. It's true that Reyes threw in combinations and missed punches, but he also landed some good ones here and there throughout the whole first 3 rounds. And bottom line is he outstruck and landed better than Jon in those 3 rounds. Jon did good he finished strong but he lost . Had Jones scored a knockdown and dominated with elbows and ground and pound, and made it an 8/10 round, then he would've retained his title or possibly won. But he didn't.
Host:"Had this been a 10 rd fight Jon would have decapitated Reyes" Michael Bisping: "Yea yea, but its not a 10 rd fight. Its like saying 'if they allowed guns, he would have shot him'. Guns arent allowed either buddeh. "
Compare Reyes to Gustaffson 1, and tell me in what way Gustaffson did worse. Reyes - unlike Gustaffson!!! - gave up Octagon control in Round 3, throwing as many punches as possible to get a percentage of strikes win. Simple as that. And here's something funny that people forget: Jones threw more precise strikes. Look at the figures of thrown vs landed for each fighter.
Danny Peculiarbleeps i feel like reyes fight was closer than gus for the first 3 rnds. Cause gus was landing but jones especially in the 2nd round was blasting gus was body kicks and head kicks and out struck gus.
@@TheSublimeLifestylethe ufc uses a 10 point must system there are 2 possible scores for a round 10-8 or 10-9 no round in this fight was a 10-8. The first 3 were 10-9 for reyes the last 2 were 10-9 for jones sp reyes won 48-47 the last rounds count exactly the same this is a blatant robbery
Rashad is 100% correct about his confidence. You can call it what u want but it does give you an edge when your not afraid of your opponent and don't think they can hurt you. There is no hesitation and no thinking your just acting and that split second faster reaction time makes a difference. You see it all the time during fights once someone is tagged.
There is absolutely no way of knowing how a fight would go “if it went another five round”. As of right now it’s 5 rounds weighted equally. Reyes clearly won the first three. Let’s be honest people.
the first 3, jones was retreating a lot, no significant hits, not a single take down, some kicks and jabs here and there while Dominick was trying to dismantle jones with heavy shots, he had the first 3
Its hard to judge against JJ because he never looks uncomfortable in a fight no matter whats going on, always composed , doesn’t look tired or show weakness
@@I_KILL_CUCKS Yeah he looked caught out, like he wasn't really at the races, showed up in the 4th and 5th imo, lost the fight overall. But shit happens.
Dude it’s asinine to count the last two rounds more all that is going to do is to completely disincentivize fighting at a high clip in the first few rounds. It’s so ridiculous
@@Thecgsystem maybe in a real street fight, but a street fight doesn't last 25 minutes with minute breaks in between. Even your logic is flawed because if I'm doing more damage to you the majority of the fight and then you start to fight back at the end your still closer to dropping even if I'm more tired cos you've sustained more damage. He wasn't gassing out like Conor, he had a lot in him.
@@Thecgsystem that's stupid. It's a fucking sport with rules and regulations. Each round is scored individually. Whoever wins the most rounds wins the fight.
He kicked Reyes in the jaw and hit him with a cast punch and a 1-2 in the third round. Jones was landing too. And he got a takedown in the 4th. Reyes went close to beating him but did not do enough.
@@gjergjjiim1615 didnt do enough? Reyes won comfortably 3 rounds of a 5 round fight, outsmarting, outstriking and outperforming jones. What did you want to see him do exactly?
Tal Moore endurance and damage should count for more than landing. The point of a fight is to inflict damage and that doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen off a clean punch. Smh when ever I fought my goal was to fuck the opponent up. Reyes might need ACL surgery and was gased in the 4th and 5th how can you win a fight running the last 2? Reyes would of got fucked up with no time limit.
Right? I mean, if I know the rules I can just save energy and then explode at the later rounds. That's a valid strategy. Joe doesn't seem to understand that.
and this is why PRIDE rules were the best, because among other rules(like striking downed opponents),you judged the total fight, but the UFC's been fucked by Boxing and athletic state commissions so you have these terrible judges and judging.
With any given outcome, you can construct an argument for or against it. Think of it like the legal system. Joe is also a huge fan of Jon Jones and an employee of the UFC, so take it with a grain of salt. Also, the UFC is a multi billion dollar business, if you expected them to remain pure to the sport and the fans, you’re a bit naive. It’s a business first, a social spectacle second, and a sport third. I wish it was the opposite.
@MrCactus doesn't matter, he won 3 rounds and jones won 2. If it was a street fight then Jon wins cause he dominated at the end but this is mma where each round carries the same weight. Reyes won 3 Jons 2.3 rounds is more than 2 so Reyes should've been the champ.
joe talking like Jon was kicking reyes' ass in the final round, jon tried to take down 9 times and reyes defended almost all and the ones he didnt he got right back up soo wtf ??
Zeke Michael He isn’t being criticized for not submitting him. He is just saying that, anyone can be taken down for a second. It doesn’t count for as much if you can’t keep him there and land a couple shots.
When Jones loses his first fight Joe will say.... Well if the fight went on for another 2 hours I think there's a great chance Jon gets the better of him. Rogan has always loved Jones too much to have any objective opinion about him.
@@mountainjews he didnt eat him for me jones won the second the 4th and the 5th round, reyes was arguably the best opponent jones has ever fought but after that Reyes has lost 3 fights
Arguably Roe Jogan here was fairly objective pointing out the suspiscious judge and that most people feel like Reyes won three rounds, need ref help to be the GOAT though
The one issue I have with the 'to the death scenario' is that if there's no breaks between rounds, Reyes would not have stopped and could have killed Jon in the first 15 minutes. The bell is all that stopped Reyes from continuing to go to town on Jon.
the other problem is that fighter fights with number of rounds being in mind. you can't make the argument 'for the death' if there is predefined number of rounds that fighter take into consideration with his strategy.
Most of the shots didn't land because of Jon's defense. You all have never stepped into a cage or understand what you're looking at. His defense won him that fight.
wtf r u talking about? they’re “praising” him for being able to absorb those big shots like nothing happened, we’ve never seen Jon get hit that much... it showed his toughness, u casuals r funny asf 😭
Imagine telling a fighter "hey, it's a pretty simple sport. You can win by either finishing your opponent, or securing three rounds." "Okay cool, so what about my opponent?" "Oh, he doesnt have yo do either of those things. He just has to look really good at the end of the fight. And if he has an excellent body of work, they count that for him too. And if we pretend in our heads that it's a fight to the death on the street and we think he would have eventually killed you, then he gets credit for that too. And if we feel like he's REALLY the better fighter, and that he would definitely win a rematch, then that counts for him also. GOOD LUCK OUT THERE KID!!" Reyes secured three rounds against the greatest of all time. Everything else is noise. They should have given him the belt.
"if it was to the death, Jones would win" is a stupid way to look at it Joe! Both Dom and Jon would fight differently if it were a "to the death" fight. But they fought a "best of 5 rounds" fight, and most ppl agree that Dom clearly won 3 out of 5.
Sia Sleopard I disagree! When you are fighting JON JONES, you don’t take any rounds off!!!!! You don’t allow the judges to decide! You got a chance to beat one of the best ever, ya gotta go five rounds!!!!! If Reyes felt he had it won so played it safe, then he definitely deserves to lose! These fights have always been subjective w numbers. Plying it safe the last two rounds, and I don’t think he did (I think he was tired), is a losing strategy and always has been.
Sia Sleopard he has a good point. Round 3 & 5 make 7 1/2min. Reyes hands down won that fight tho. Dude needs cardio or I think Jon will catch him in 3.
I don’t understand what joe said was making his own rules he literally just asked a question that IF the last 2 rounds counted more you need to open your ears
@@joab757 You idiot Reyes did not get complacent. It was due to him being taken to the deep end. Jones has done Championship fights many times before. Reyes did exactly what he had to do. Pressure him constantly from 1 to 2. It's simply a case of Reyes being gassed out. His explosiveness from 1 to 3 none stop had him fighting on an empty gas tank to 4 and 5. And that's avoiding himself from getting knocked out by Jones
I love Joe but man this is crazy talk. Did Tyson Fury deserve to lose on points because Wilder almost knocked him out in the 12th? Even Joe probably doesn't agree with what he's saying here he just ain't getting any pushback from Rashad.
anybody can play the "what if" scenario but at the end of the day the contest was 5 rounds and the scores did not reflect what we saw and Reyes absolutely won by scoring. You cant predict what would have happened in the 10th round if they kept going all you want. Maybe Reyes would have turned it up a notch who knows. Thats why the "what if" scenario is a great talking point but not reality.
@@Themayseffect very true, he lost last 2 rounds but in my opinion, he won the 1st 3 rounds...do we look at this fight as scoring contest since no one got knocked out? Or who has the heart of a champion in the later rounds? Btw im not in any shape or form saying Jones was not impressive, he is a beast make no mistake abt that. But he lost the contest that night, in my opinion.
@@jeffreyabraham7051 Reyes was the toughest opponent Jones has had since Alex (the first fight)... so yea, it does make a strong case. But Reyes lost. I'm not the best person to argue though, i rarely ever call foul for scored fights "that go the wrong way" and certainly championship fights. If the challenger doesn't decisively beat the champion then i immediately rule it as a loss. Reyes did not even remotely "unanimously" win this fight. Looking at the Cody vs Dominic fight is a perfect example of the challenger unanimously winning a fight without a TKO/SUB. The fact the round 2,3 can be seen as open for interpretation here means this clearly that Reyes didn't win. Rd 3 could've been scored either way. Leaving only 1/2 as a win for Reyes and rd 4/5 as a clear loss. Reyes is younger and has less mileage and could not close out the fight.
@@Themayseffect here are the data i pulled on the fight. Reyes landed 23 of 59 punches (38%) compared to Jones landing 17 of 27 (62%) in round one. In the second, Reyes landed 33 of 68 (48%) against Jones' contribution of 22 from 37 (59%). And, in the third, Reyes again landed more with 26 of 45 (57%) while Jones landed 19 of 34 (55%). It was only in the fourth when Jones snatched the momentum, landing 20 of 34 (58%) compared to Reyes who landed 13 of 41 (31%). In the fifth, Jones landed 26 from 34 strike attempts (76%) compared to Reyes who landed 21 from 46 (45%).
@@jeffreyabraham7051 not sure what this is supposed to prove.... All it shows is that Reyes never dominated the fight...This doesn't account for Octagon control, takedown attempts, significant strikes or head/body/leg strikes.
How can you say that, when he goes and says 4 and 5 should be weighed more? and that jones would have killed reyes if the fight was longer? Dude would suck jone's D if he could. as one of the faces of the UFC the rules should be the rules, don't try to bend them after the fight to justify a bad win.
Dude it's called a hard punch he made a mistake by throwing a kick he's not gonna do that again trust me anyone can get knocked out by that steroded fuck.
@@Malouco what are you talking about jan has never failed a drug test in his career why the fuck do you think he's on steroids??? And by your logic we should disregard his win over walker cause it was an early knockout.
Cmon joe. Silly analogy’s there. So if I’m winning 3-0 playing football and the players get tired and concede one in the last minute it’s 3-1. Mma is a sport and should be treated like one
It’s fight tho. It’s not playing a game with rules. Unless we let people fight infinite rounds until someone quits. You trying to see who the better fighter is. You may win in the beginning but ultimately lose. It’s how fights go..
Jones was never getting his ass kicked either, go back and watch fight. Reyes was throwing a ton of shots but jones parried and let a lot of shots hit his gloves. I think if the fact that he made Jon Jones look human we all thought he was doing better than he was but went back and watched fight and I actually think jones won.
pauliewallnuttz ive only been able to see the highlights of the fight so I could be wrong so don't kill me if I am, but what was the longest jones was able to hold Reyes down and control him whenever he got a takedown? In the hoghlights it looked as if every time jones did take him down he couldn't do anything and Reyes was back to his feet after not long each time. I'm curious because looks like Reyes defo outstriked jones and the jones' main argument for winning was the takedowns, but like I said looked like he done nothing with them
He didn't perform well enough to get the belt. The challenger has always been required to make a decisive display whether it is boxing or mma. Belts are rarely won by way of non unanimous decisions.
@@niharshastri3519 Jon won. It wasn’t a robbery. People said the same about some of Floyd’s fights. Shut your biased hating ass up. Go cry. Jon is truly the best in the UFC rn.
That is full of crap just like Ariel said, they should just be two men in a ring, and the one who does most should be the winner. No you gotta beat the champ definitely to win.
He has to spin the narrative. During the fight Joe was constantly talking about how great Jon looked while doing nothing. "he's fresher he's fresher." Yeah cuz he's standing still not doing anything. If he was fresher and wanted to win, why not cut the ring off. Oh was he too tired to cut the ring off but not as tired as Reyes? 😴
@@greuju For real man, everybody talking about cage control when for the first three rounds Reyes footwork kept Jon from cutting him off and doing anything of significance
Man stop it Evans. He lost that fight. You give him credit for taking the punches. He lost man. Man people will make excuses for who they like. Dominic absolutely lost the last two rounds but Jines absolutely lost the first three. And even though he was coming forward he was hurt.
What is the point of saying Jon Jones won the last two rounds... if your going to judge a fight based on how a fight ended... what's the purpose of having rounds. What's the purpose of having a scorecard... Just combine all the rounds into 1 round and let them fight til then end... Reyes won the fight no doubt about it.. he was robbed
@@seabassmusiktv5803 You're an asshole. Reyes definitely had the first 2 rounds but the 3rd? No. Reyes got his ass kicked in the last 2 rounds. The last 10 minutes he was barely standing and he won? The man had to be carried away but he won? He ran away from Jones in the last 2 rounds but he won? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! Reyes has to stop Jones, meaning submit him or knock him out to win any fight let alone become champion.
It happens with an GOAT legacied athlete. You don't just fight/play the person you fight/play the legacy as well LeBron gets the calls mayweather gets the decisions McGregor gets the leanyency. The legacy is harder to defeat the person tbh
@Royce dude you can beat the champ on decision wtf they definitely changed the rules for Jones because that fight was definitely 3-2 everyone saying he kicked his ass in the end so Jones won what about Reyes kicking his ass for 3 rounds but he gassed and survived because he knew he won you are delusional
@@ezmoneytore8940 so what? championship rounds dont make you a champion, they're not worth anything more than the other 3 rounds. that's the most stupid argument i've heard someone make
@@medzo8193 not really arguing for the decision just explaining the stance. I personally had the third round a wash, one point either way, with the first two and last two being non-debatable*.
You prepare for a fight, given the rules for the fight. A 3-round fight is prepared for differently than a 5-round fight. If the fight was 10 rounds, what makes Joe think Reyes would have fought the exact same way? Also, if you want to play this hypothetical game, why stop at just the number of rounds? Who would have won if there was no breaks every 5 minutes. What if it was a 20 minute round? Would Jon have weathered the early onslaught w/o advice/motivation from his corner or just the brief rest to gather thoughts? These hypotheticals are silly. It was a close fight. I felt Reyes won, but it wasn’t a robbery. Run it back.
What? He made a great point, if that fight was to continue jon would easily get the finish...i had reyes winning 3-2 but like many others feel it was close and coulda went either way..biggest takeaway was those championship rounds which were dominated by the champ.
@@ddp5406 I was even thinking of the point joe made but thought it sounded silly. but it is a very good point. if it were to go on there is a clear winner in that fight. round 6 or 7 reyes would have been finished. which sounds silly sure but that 5th round is the last impression youre leaving for judges fans etc and jon dominated round 5.
Durand Peavley mans talking about 49 BC and you really talking on here serious 😂. Fights should be about who dominated more though. You and i know Jones should not be the champ. What is the point about having the other rounds if the last 2 are the only ones that count? That’s a slap to the fighters face. Work so hard to end up basically saying, fuck those rounds only 2 matter. That’s wrong man.
3 out of 5. Reyes. He won. Was robbed. Take downs count for points but do no damage. He never put Reyes on his back. Nor could he flatten him. Reyes escapes. Didn’t stay down long. Reyes dominated the standup. So what happened? Jones wins??? Cmon man.
werthy is my name It was too close of a fight to be a robbery you casual. It was razor close. Many people believe Reyes won. To call it a robbery though shows how little you know about the fight game
Alexander Hayward I personally felt that the 4th was very close between the Reyes and Jones. Even in the beginning of the 4th Dom controlled it for a bit.
I like how everyone says "well JBJ couldn't keep him down! He couldn't do any damage!" Well did Dom do any damage to JBJ with his strikes? No. I'm using your logic here.
It was a close fight but I thought Dominick Reyes won the first 3 rounds and should have won the fight. I think the loss did something to Dominick Reyes mentally, he was undefeated before this loss and now he has lost 3 in a row since.
It doesn’t matter how good a challenger competes, if they whoop the champ all fight. Because if it goes the distance there’s 99% of the time 1 outcome. It’s rigged
If the fight was to the death, it also would have started differently. Not saying that I know who would have won, but because each round is rewarded equally on the scorecards, this affects how it plays out greatly (fighters modulate their efforts accordingly instead of immediately trying to kill each other or using a different tactic). I feel like 3 rounds to 2, especially if damage is being done in all 3 of those rounds , should result in a win, but that’s just me. I mean, people can rally in the last 2 rounds because they know they only have to go that long, so I don’t get the prioritization.
he didn't get three,John got it with takedowns as lame as it is that was the deciding factor. Round 5 possible 10-8,they are right in the sense that you HAVE to finish the champ in a close one like that. A decision will always lean in the champs favor in a close fight
@@jvnbrk Jones ain't take shit down lmao Jon's takedowns got stuffed each time and if you wanna count those half ass take downs where Reyes got up a second after then go ahead
He worded it badly but it makes sense. It should have been split decision, not unanimous, but Joe is saying you need to finish strong. Throwing everything you have in the first couple rounds can be cool, but if you get outmatched in the later rounds when fatigue sets in and you have to be a tactical fighter and you cant keep up the judges will always lean towards a fighter that was more dominant late in the fight rather than early.
@@harmonyinone Jon didn't really put it on him though. He got takedowns but they were short lived and yes he pressured those last 2 rounds. But he lost 3 rounds clearly and if you judge the fight as a whole, Jon lost. He didn't win the 2 rounds in the dominant fashion that Dominic did
The concept of rounds negates the idea that "whoever is winning at the end, should count for more" or "death fight mentality". Sure it was 25 minutes straight of 2 people fighting then you could say that, but there are breaks ever 5 minutes with coaching, cut work and water.
Yeah what Joe says also won't work. Then fighters will run and preserve energy for 3 rounds and go all in for the last 2 rounds... Gonna be boring 3 rounds imo 😀
R H You’re assuming every fight is going to go for 5 rounds. Fighters already pace themselves so they won’t be tired in the 4th and 5th rounds. If you saw Jones and Reyes fight for 1 round it would’ve been a completely different fight
No one ever mentions how discipline Jon is when it comes to not dropping his hands. He always has that one hand up covering his chin. That’s what amazes me.
Everyone is killing this judge but bruh nobody is talking about how he wasn’t the only one to give the 2nd round to Jon and he wasn’t the only one to give the third to Jon he’s just the only one who gave both to Jon whether or not he was wrong he wasn’t the only one
You're right, Joe: it is a dumb way to think about it. Everyone should hang back in the first three rounds because only the last two matter? Or the last round? Or is it who is on top when the fight ends? This is not sprint cycling. The rules are scoring by rounds, all of equal value. You are such a smart guy, I never expected you to say something so dumb?
Also rules : cage domination , agressiv , reyes backpeding get taken down . get exhausted at the last 4/5 most difficult rounds : 3 judges unanimous , yoiu re not judge if you want judge then graduate and try to get a job instead of nonsens casufans opinion
Just saying how are you cutting Rashad off right when he's talking about real shit. I know you can watch the full episode but you could've ended it sooner dependent on the title of the cliip
Exactly. I just rewatched it.. round 2 was the closest round period.. 1&3 Reyes, 4&5 Jones.. rd 2 was Reyes at the beginning landing some shots then jones winning the 2nd half of the round. Jones won the fight due to constant advancement. These judges out too much stock in the advancing fighter. Just like takedowns with no damage done afterwards. Damage is the key no matter what the positioning of the fighters is. The advancing fighter just looks more dominant period. Just like the fighter on top looks more dominant. You still have to land clean shots and inflict damage
What’s the point in mentioning if the fight was to the death or school yard fights? That’s not what the rules are. It’s a 5 round fight, each round scored separately. Seems like these “experts” are looking to excuse the decision. Reyes won!
Exactly! It was a very dumb point to bring up. Lets just go back to UFC 1 rules in that case. You cant take rounds off in any combat sport. Even in a 12 round fight. Points are so important, and you never know what the hell the judges are seeing out there.
He was just pointing out the fact that when the fight was over Jones was the fresher fighter meaning dominick didn't damage jones enough in the said first three rounds. He's standing on even grounds. Stop vilifying Joe to make it seem like everyone was and is still plotting for jones.
Idle Class Hero Joe is cool people but he doesn’t always have the perfect logic. What does looking fresher mean if the man was landing still? Some people are better at absorbing punishment. Reyes landed more every round. Being fresh doesn’t equal a win.
They don’t have to count more. The judge can score the final round 10-8. The rules already accommodate weighting the later rounds more, just up to the judges
@@andrewmurray5409 I find that surprising, round 2 was actually one of Reyes most dominant rounds. He out struck Jones more in round 2 than any other round. If anything round 3 is the round that I can see some people maybe arguing in Jones favour although I would still disagree with it
It wasn't clear or else Reyes would be champion.... alot of people who have rewatched the fight are changing their stance on the 3rd round. A lot of punches Reyes threw in the 3rd actually missed. I think the only way to know forsure who won is to have a rematch.
