Joe Rogan & Cory Sandhagen Discuss Bad Calls in the UFC 

Thank you for the warning. It’s as if Axe body spray was noise.

​@@tempsitch5632 😂😂😂 why is that so accurate lmao

100000% sounds like someone is creating a character in WWE.

My man.. thanks for the heads up in getting out a whole minute ahead of the end

Big down vote from me for the outro music. Wow that's bad. And loud

Rogan and Cormier were being willfully ignorant. Moutinho will never be the same person he was before that fight and if the ref had let it go on longer it could’ve ended horribly. The strike difference was 230-70.

@@TylerG13 230-70 still seems light, Kris landed nothing of power the whole fight didn’t move his head and was quite literally a walking punching bag, I hope Kris is doing well, the commentators were more mad at the stoppage than Kris was

Yeah that fight was very lopsided. "Gotta let Him get hit another 50 times. Like Warrior spirit maaaaan"

Not to mention he got stopped in the first next fight too. Shouldve been stopped a while ago, had to have had an effect on him

I met a guy that knew kris personally and he said the whole thing was a fix, not the fight itself but how the fight came about, time to prepare and level of competition. He essentially said Kris - for as much as he loved him - didn’t belong in there.

The comparison isnt even close

@@enigma1247 referees not allowing mma fighters to work on the ground vs referees not allowing boxers to work in the clinch? its directly comparable you flannel.

​@@KristianH1986 hahaha I had to look up flannel as an insult. Are you British?

​@Tarance Hill I'm British, and I've never heard someone say flannel

im sure it was to stop unnecessary hugging that nobody wants to see

Because they look similar? If so that’s ironic because I think he looks more like Lil Dicky, and Santino is on his show.

Laughed my ass off

But the problem with that is 1 round wins the fight . And 1 decently dominant round ties the fight

@@anonymousbrowsing2909 10-7 is insane, fights need to go back more pride style rules where they're judged as a whole. Let's say I get my ass beat round one and it's 10-7, I come back with a strong ass second and 10-8 him the next round then 10-9 him the third and the best I get is a draw? That's some bullshit, the way the fight ends is way more important than the way it begins

@@jiujitsumonkey1 agreed I get the rounds system but they gotta find a way too give close fights too the person who actually WON the fight in terms of damage or strikes and then control time.

@@jiujitsumonkey1 IMO I like the fight being judged as a whole with an exception. Let the judges vote on the fight as a whole and if they can't make a strong decision then look at who they thought won each round for a tie breaker. Volk should have won that fight. Joe is right the end of the fight had him winning for sure.

More room for judges to fuck fights up. No thanks.

They are put there so Vegas win because no one bets on split decisions

What does split decision have to do with betting?

you saying that like these stupid judges rn aren't biased towards fighters. how tf do you think islam got decission over volk.

@@Jeudaos trust me I’m with you on that but I’m just saying it’s something to think about, imagine dc as a judge. And I had $100 on volk at +350 and was 100% convinced I made the right bet, just think the judges fucked it over

@@Jeudaos one of the judges were from Australia 😂

Well the judges and referees don't work for the UFC. They're from whatever Athletic Commission the company is currently fighting in.

True but a lot of times the refs that let them up do it in ridiculous situations. If the fight is stalled then for sure let them up. But if they’re working for positions, who cares what the crowd things just let them work and continue to practice mixed martial arts.

That's usually the case when dudes just laying on top not doing anything. Most times theres a big struggle going on with wrist control and positioning, and those should not be stood up.

@@tclyde865 we still talking about fighting, right? 🤣

@@JakeNHale idk are we 😂

@@tclyde865 it’s ultimate FIGHTING championship not wrestling majority of time they’re stood up nothing is happening booing is happening for a reason

If he dies, he dies.

A few bad apples spoils the bunch

you often only remember by their worst moments as well. Yamasaki made a couple really bad calls. Leading up to the Cachoeira fight, he has been reffing for 20 years in the UFC alone, basically since the organization was founded. He can't be too much of a bad apple when there's what, 10/400 fights with bad calls?

Bc it's the starting round, and in UFC getting past the first round is an accomplishment itself.

Looking at the end point is representative of the whole.

​@@DIVAD291 How exactly? Volk was getting rocked and dropped about the same as Islam. Got outstruck a few times and then controlled in R4. It was very competitive up until R5. How is all that reflective of the whole fight when Islam put in better work? I feel like people who say this are just salty fanboys who didn't like the outcome. Would you be saying the same if Islam had that performance?

@@nicholascoob1350 Let's say you have a 500m race. Runner A has the lead for the first 400 meters but gets passed by Runner B in the last 100 meters. Who won the race? If you judge the race based on who won the most individual segments, you would say that A won because he won more 100m "rounds" than B. If you judge the race as a whole, you would give it to Runner B because overall he covered the 500m faster than A. The difference between the endpoint and the start is what matters when you judge as a whole. Variations between arbitrary points within the fight don't. So if we bring it back to Volk vs Islam. Unlike racing, we stop the fight before it reaches it's actual endpoint for safety/entertainment reasons. So to me the job of a judge should be to try and predict who would win if the fight kept going until a winner was decided and I think it's fair to say Volk had the advantage by the end due to Islam being very tired.

What’s the problem? Both things are true and volk still won.. you brain dead ?

It hasn’t been declining, ref’s have always been trash. We just have social media now to show how shit they are

Nice paragraph, but here's why everything is ruined: gambling.

Not at all because it has happened in sports

No lmao then it’s not a fight it’s boring and we won’t know who’s actually better

But volk wasn’t being dominated for 4 rounds and 4 and half minutes tho was he, it was a fairly even fight wherein volk was clearly in a better position at the end

​​@@zacmcloughlin3470 He got controlled in R1 and for the entirety of R4. Did you watch the fight?

@@nicholascoob1350 that’s 2 rounds out 5 buddy, yes Islam defo won those rounds but looking at the full scope of the fight you cannot argue that he was being dominated for the whole fight c’mon

@@zacmcloughlin3470 How was he being dominated? He also outstruck Volk in R2 so I'd say he took that round as well, even rocked Alex in that same round. So that's 3-2. Would you agree he lost then?

@@nicholascoob1350 please read my first comment again, I literally said it was a fairly even fight, and yes I do think based on the current ufc rules that Islam won, my point was it wasn’t a domination but if it wasn’t a regulated fight volk could have easily won

cry about it some more

I kind of agree, too, but it is a 'chicken or the egg' thing for me strategy-wise. If athletes understand that, as a whole, what they do per individual round is not as important as how they finish, the byproduct I feel would be less urgency through the beginning stages of a fight, since you'd think most would conserve their energy in anticipation of finishing strong. It might be a scoring change that works for some types but not for all. It would certainly influence training and performance tactics. My question is if the result would be less of an emphasis on establishing a strong, pressure-friendly pace that displeases the organization as well as the fans. As for me, I think MMA has emphasized stand-up fighting far too much -- in other words, I don't believe fighters should ever be stood-up due to lack of action or initiative. If one athlete is just laying on another following a takedown, and then proceeds to do nothing from top, I don't care how boring it is. The guy on bottom or in a disadvantageous position should not receive an opportunity to stand up, period. If you're not adept in skill enough to escape, sweep, or create a scramble, then that is a problem with your skill-set.

If it wasn't scored round by round I'd say that would actually be a good idea.

Nah it's judged round by round so it would be insanely unfair for the fighter in a worse position, the breaks in-between rounds are meant for fighters to gameplan and improve, a shit ton of fights wouldn't end the way they ended if it was like this

How would that work practically tho, if the fight goes 4 rounds on the feet and then one fighter gets a takedown in the last second to secure a round, does that mean the final round should start on the ground? Seems a bit unfair to me

Volk absolutely did not win. The last 20-30 seconds of a fight don’t count more. Idk how anyone can watch that fight and think volk won

ufc

I haven't personally met a single person who doesn't

@@prettzx I was torn at first but then I watched it without commentary and seemed like a clear 3-2 for Islam

Just people from Russia and Muslims are the only ones , anyone with a brain knows who actually won

Shush

@@killlr0y tell that to the music 4 times louder than the audio. Shush.

@@surthrivingalaska2511 turn it down ...easy