AGREE LOVE DOUGLAS BRILLANT MAN FULL OF KNOWLEDGE PEOPLE NEED TO WAKEUP AND LEARN WHAT THE PLAN OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD HAS PLANNED. LOOK UP ACT FOR AMERICA GREAT SIDE ABOUT HOW MUSLIMS ARE RUNNING OUR SCHOOLS CIRCULUM EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR AMERICA GOOD WEBSITE...
The danish stateminister told the muslim brotherhood when asked to censur the muhammed drawings after the publishing of them "No, i will not censur it, that's not how we do it in Denmark" - that's how to handle religious nutters.
Matt Pressley 100%. Like Douglas said in a different video people will over use the terms ‘nazi’ and ‘fascist’ and ‘racist’. So when one of them really does come along and they label them a ‘fascist’ no one will take it seriously as the terms would have been so over used and out of context
Douglas is brilliant, we really need logical thinkers like him in our political system. It won't happen though; he has principles and thinks for himself.
Not to brilliant... but still logical... needed in politics to check others ego although he is no better than far left on virtue signaling... and he will play identity politics when get the chance...
I've always found Douglas to be 1 of the more thoughtful, highly intelligent, very carefully considered speakers, and he certainly did not disappoint here. He's also consistent! Great interview
Not leftist governments. Dictatorships that falsely labeled themselves as left (or populist for Stalin) for support without following any of the principles of the left.
Has there ever been a left leader including the ones you listed that wasn't a dictator and actually did the things that the left stands for. Equality of opportunity, a social safety net, liberty of speech, freedom of religion and expression and so on, even in these basic principles they have all failed dangerously. If Jesus was to come today the right would call him lefty and socialist, Jesus wasn't a free market's guy
Think of Denmark. I often hear support for the “Denmark” model when I say show me a socialist society that has worked. Here’s the thing, Denmark has the label of socialism but is total free market in practice. Do your own research to fact check these facts. First of all, now this is very important, Denmark is roughly the SIZE OF MARYLAND. A system that works in such a small nation is not going to work in a powerhouse of a country with a large AND extremely diverse population. There a a FEW quasi-socialist systems Denmark. FIFTY percent, HALF of every citizens money goes to income and sales tax YET the average citizen of Denmark has substantially less (I believe 28%) disposable income than the average American. Denmark is rated one of the easiest places in the world. Third I Believe. Second only to Singapore and one other-sounds pretty capitalist huh? They also receive “free healthcare”. But it’s not free. That’s part of what that 50% of their income goes to covering and even with that a large and growing percentage of the populace has decided to spend even more money to get private healthcare because the government one is near worthless in many instances. They have free public school but a substantial and growing amount of parents choose to pay to send their kids to private school. College is also ”free” (hard to call it that when half of your money pays contributes to paying for it. It even includes a living allowance but they have a BIG problem with a lot of students just staying in school becoming life long students for the free ride therefor never contributing to society at large. Also, a lot of kids that would never pay to go to college because they don’t have enough interest in it for one reason or another choose to go just for a few years of free living. Their consumer economy operates within a total capitalist free market system and for that reason alone they can’t be considered a socialist nation. There are examples like this for days but this is just a RU-vid comment. Do your own reading for 5 minutes and you will see many more examples of the few socialist policies they still have failing and the capitalist/free market policies they have succeeding. Now can you give me an example of a true modern socialist society success story?
Michael L. LaPorte HMC FMF yes but Michael, iv noticed that he will change his opinions & the flavour of his conversations which gets extremely contradictory at times
Murray said in an interview yesterday with Politics Joe something along the lines of - of the 2 great lessons of the 20th Century, many in Western Society only learned 1. When a country goes too far right it’s terrible(Adolf Hitler). But what wasn’t learned by many is that it’s also the case when we go too far left (Comrade Joe).
So the far left.... antifa, people who want to stop free thought, and crush any opposition to their crazy beliefs, also they are racists as well, are better than the far right? No they are one in the same, and the far left is arguably more dangerous because they have reach and they can sway public actions. Ive never been in a situation where ive been afraid to say its bad to be racist against minorities, or where ive been afraid to defend the rights of people on the left or any person of color. But i have had to think to myself before i open my mouth and speak out against conservative censorship or against racism against white people bc i be attack for that. Ive lost friends over that sort of thought but ive never lost friends for goimg against the far right. So the far left is more dangerous by far.
The far-left is also protected by the status quo, which makes them far more dangerous. Their hatred and violence is deemed socially acceptable by major institutions such as the mass media and academia.
@@williamdraken6018 Well that's exactly where they get their legitimacy from, there's countless and countless of social theories and schools of thought that have been pushed out for decades, that make the left seem as the default position to have in societal issues. It's the intellectual basis for their revolutionary actions. Every revolution has to have some basic corner stones to be an effective and long lasting one. 1) intellectual justification 2) backing from sympathetic mass media(s) 3) activists outside of the political system that make the dirty work of suppressing opposition, either violently, non-violently or both I left out the obvious ones, which of course are political parties, military and law enforcement. It's like at some point there was an invisible and unspoken agreement between the left and the right where they agreed that the right can handle the economics, while the left got to have the educational and media entities. Of course it was not a real, actual agreement, but if it would've been, then kudos to the left for playing the long game, since now they're reaping the benefits of that deal.
I'm left leaning and I somewhat agree. The left is more vocal and hateful in what they say. I believe it is because these people are in pain and don't know any other way to express it. Conservatives or right leaning people seem to hold their pain inside themselves more. They look at how you are infringing on them and less about their personal problems. There is one thing that conservatives don't seem to see about their side. People who are a little less stable seem to be more likely to kill than people on the left. It may be that conservatives, in general, have better access to firearms. It is not really access, I guess, but just more a part of their lives. To me, it isn't a bad thing for conservatives to enjoy guns(I've owned them myself in the past). It's a problem when someone has one that shouldn't. I think even most conservatives think there should be better background checks. Yet they get blamed, because their Representatives are bought and paid for just like on the left.
@holyworrier - not necessarily. The US constitution and the Republic it created is pretty amazing. The problem is how it has been corrupted by the rich and powerful. The people have allowed it... if the US dies, there will never be another, and with technology, the ruling class will never be challenged again.
leftist are excellent at coining useless terms to validate their nonsense. Hate speech and progressive are new terms used to excuse radical behavior. Once someone is labeled by some dumb SJW label that gives them a pass to judge and threaten anyone with violence and its ok because some blogger said they were a NAZI.
several Bernie campaign admit pretending to be socialists wanting to bankrupt&overthrow out USA ~ no private property & Gulags/ kill anyone that resists ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lD3NQtIzQng.html commnsunsits inside united nations &USA ST. Dept..running Democrats party ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xZhDlf7sOaE.html COMMUNSITS INSDIE NEWS/MOVIES ATTACK USA CULTURE MAKE PEOPLE HATE USA HISTORY FOUNDING FATHERS ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nyNJVNrh_Q.html (ELF)earth liberation front..climate change activists set fires for environmental sabotage.. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-16k1P1aagRM.html biden jr&sr sell out usa& get billions from china kickbacks ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F0VGXy_AJjs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2mHRT5pbN-Y.html Abraham Bolden ~Kennedy bodyguard ..heard Johnson &Kennedy argue week of death ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O51qzCacd-o.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CsaB3ynIZH4.html media claimed trump's hand movements was making fun of wapo disabled actually reporter backtracking on story about him... www.brighteon.com/da87cdae-8ed0-4535-971c-53bd1a792c47 www.brighteon.com/da87cdae-8ed0-4535-971c-53bd1a792c47 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q-plQi6NbkA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-76FBvG5i2Tk.html
@@HB-gv9sz Yeah, a lot of the radical identitarian BS started in college between 2013 and 2017, and only certain IDW individuals caught it earlier, and it's now seeped into companies and culture because those kids have graduated college. People like Brett Weinstein predicted this with the whole Evergreen fiasco, and it really wasn't that hard to predict. In my opinion, it was the (seemingly) huge sweep across our culture that this ideology has taken over.
Right, I’ve almost got the feeling this is all in preparation for the setup of a global government which would supposedly “save” us from ourselves by taking the freedom of speech away from us,...oh yes, there are invisible powers behind the wheel
@@redghost6386 i agree.. I've actually heard them use the words conquer the white house.. it's worst then people think yet the news tells us the opposite... everytime a synagogue is attacked , the first thing the news says is "possible white supremacists" even when they scream allahu akbar.. look we know its muslim.. why pretend to not know?? because afraid of being called a racist? Islam is not a race
This may get lost in a sea of comments but the UK Foreign Secretary referenced at 26:50 is now the UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson (: Just hoping people would find that as hilarious as I do (:
GTFOH? Dude thats awesome !!! Man i love boris im American and not too much into British politics i like reading up on Brexit which i why i know who boris is even so id still know him because hes president or the english equivalent :)
He is a true intellectual and very independent thinker. He's hard to predict, which is a sure sign of an honest person. It's a shame this wasn't four hours, Sam Harris-style.
K M Agreed, Ive listened to him before with molyneux and older interviews he really is well spoken. Rogan did a good job but there were times he should have laughed or responded but Murrays comment just floated on by. Anyway, if you crossed maybe Charlie Rose with Jay Leno you would get something close to the Joe Rogan Podcast. Great guests but not hyper serious.
i would wish you shut the fuck up and think and don't believe anything you hear goggle how many we killed and how many they killed of us then you know who is evil you stupid donkey.
@@michealbond1240 i mainly am taking the side of freedom speeche here. As for violence there is no good guys. just cycle that needs to end. Btw my country has never attacked anywhere since middle ages. And even then we were under a another country.
@@TheMetalHeadbangger Congratulations for replying calmly to an antagonistic, rude and idiotic comment! I agree, I wish more people were like Douglas Murray, too.
@@joeboonmusic4004 Thank you. I think the only way to move fowards from all this hate is to have factual conversations and just stop the blame game. Otherwise the cycle Will never end.
@@TheMetalHeadbangger Couldn't agree more. That's what we can learn from people like Douglas Murray... He's not being antagonistic like Milo Yiannopoulos or Shapiro, he simply wants us to be able to have a conversation about topics that have, for whatever reason, become taboo.
as a lifelong democrat who has felt something was seriously wrong ever since the Obama years, I am thankful to people like Joe Rogan and Douglas Murray who can articulate the problems with the ideological left. I find it hard to believe that any reasonable and honest person can listen to the arguments put forth here and still remain on the ideological left
The problem is the belief that there is a left and right as well as a neutral place. We all need to accept and face the problems all of us face on this world together with political and religious views set aside to do it. In so not working this way together it will always been one against another until one group finally wipes out the other groups, and then they will turn on each other and the cycle will keep going and going and going, until a paradigm shift as a whole or a world wide event happens that forces us to act like nice and friendly neighbors to survive and say who cares if you think different, look different, speak different, we are all human and will not make it unless we focus on only that as our commonality to fix the problem and keep it all separate. This goes for the governmental systems of every single nation and every single religion worldwide. Not doing so, well the two things are the only solution, regardless of opinion , such is not hard to see what I say is the one truth of the problem as a whole. But in so having this mindset I am a outcast because I do not have a side. Unless that side means, setting aside all to work on all of our problems with no outside influences of beliefs to faluter progress. This sounds neutral but it is not, neutral is ignoring all sides. I accept all sides and see them all to be the problem. Culture is not our friend, Religion not the way, political parties not the cure, logic is the winner, being a fellow human the only truth and belief system to move foward.
haha i did not vote for either one of them. the democrats could have easily won the '16 election if they ran with Bernie Sanders. But of course, the democrats have sold out to wall street and the corporations long ago, and there was no way the corporations would allow a socialist to have a chance at winning, so they rigged the primaries for Hillary. absolutely disgusting, so the democrats and "crooked" hillary lost my vote right there didn't vote for Trump because I am a registered voter in Texas, and Texas was gonna go for Trump anyway. not being in a swing state means that my vote truly did not matter in the '16 election when it came to the presidential race. however, once i saw that the democrats cheated to put hillary up for the race, i knew trump was gonna win anyway. anyone who thought that after 8 years of obama's liberal elitism and hypocrisy, that the democrats had a chance to win under hillary is delusional
You're part of the old party. Young libs are leftists, not liberals. Liberals don't stand for the "leftist" ideology. They are patriots. I'm a conservative with quite a lot of liberal family members and I can say they agree with you. Unfortunately, wolves in sheep's clothing have infiltrated the Democratic party.
The extreme left is far more dangerous. Look at China. The extreme right has been repressed by society and is pretty much under control as far as their power.
I came to the Voluntaryist position years ago. On the Right you have individual liberty, on the left you have collectivism. For me, all tyranny is leftist.
In 1920s Germany you would have been able to say “the extreme right is pretty much under control as far as their power.” Not to mention, it’s those on the extreme right committing mass murder every so often. Meanwhile the “far more dangerous” Antifa is throwing milkshakes and rocks.
@@thelast9021 the far left doesn’t get to define what it means to be liberal. Even if the far left hates a classically liberal person, they can’t change what the words mean. & openness is considered a trait of a liberal, whether the far left possesses that trait or not
@@crujones2849 Yes they do, because most liberals do not speak up. They are afraid of the far left, to be labeled and such. If the 8-10% are screaming and the 90% are silent, guess who leads.
why do people love him so much? is it because he is actually smart, or is it because his belief system aligns with yours? Because I answered his unanswerable question in about 3 seconds.... one which he claimed "nobody ever answered" He's obviously objectively biased and refused anything that would disagree with his views. If I figured it out in seconds, surely many others did as well. Admit it, you only like him cause hes atheist. I used to be atheist too. Whats sad is, I was never a believer, most atheist only become atheist in college or high school or something, I was thinking about philosophical ideas like eternity and God at 6, so you think just like a 6 year old. Just saying, that's truth.
LEGIT k I didn't respect the man and his enjoy his work because he was an atheist - though that is part of it. My appreciation of him is far more wide ranging than that. His essays on literature and politics were enthralling quite apart from the whole "New Athiest" thing. That label and scene was only one part of Hitchens life and work, though it became his main preoccupation toward the end.
He is the most important intellectual voice against the Islamization of Western Europe because the Leftist media has NEVER been able to paint him as a hater or "racist". Keep up the fight Mr. Murray.
Islamification, Christianisation, Paganisation.... In the broad stretch of history these are fads that come and go. Why are we not fighting for the restitution of ancient pagan religions while we are at it. How about witch trials, and the Raping and pillaging we have seemed to move away from?
I watched the interview between Mark Ruben and Tommy Robinson (I think that's right)... check it out. He's not an "intellectual, but he is at the front of this as well. Good luck!
53:00 Children mocking some guy for being bald. This immediately reminded me of my granddaughter. When she was three she innocently asked me "Grandpa, why is your head naked?" I almost pissed myself laughing. I told her God is Perfect in many ways but he isn't very good at making nicely shaped heads. Those he doesn't get right he covers with hair.
A builder I know was once on a job at an old farm house. On his lunch break, he had a little kip in his truck. The young daughter of the place's owners said to him, "You're just like a baby, aren't you?" He replied, "How do you mean?" She said, "Well, I used to have a nap after lunch when I was a baby." As she was walking away, she turned to him and added, "...and you've got no hair."
My guess would be the story was to teach kids to respect their elders. Perhaps in ancient times kids who didn’t abide by that rule were in fact in danger of losing their life. I could be completely wrong tho 🤷♂️ I am one of those people who have not read the Bible.
strong argument backed with inscrutable evidence, my armchair is warmed and the ass groove has been adequately formed. Where do me and my tin foil hat sign up to your eye opening newsletter or should i just copy paste your misplaced anger at your parents disappointment straight to my facebook page to show all my friends your eye opening and profound knowledge of things above our own capacity?
aandyist budd I think the most important point of his by far is the left dealing with Islam and immigration. You really don't want to empower far right mass movements.
aandyist budd - I disagree. He's just an intellectual apologist for the far right. It's the same script - fundamentalist Islam incubated in Saudi Arabia being conflated with everyone practicing that faith. Absolutely no mention of western foreign policy.
from the UK and love Douglas. He is the Tyson of debates. Or, Christopher Hitchens. With his amazing debates, his no nonsense attitude, his intelligence.. he's the next Chris Hitchens, this guy.
The 'left' 'right' thing has become a meaningless description. You have nutty extremists at both ends who have more in common than they have with the centre.
@George Reynolds He does have an open mind, an inquisitive and likeable nature, the world's most successful chat show and a lovely shiny head. So go easy pal.
Articulate once he actually gets his thoughts in order😂 Love the guy, but half the time he talked, I was worried he'd go into a fit. Although I'm damn sure I'd be stammering if I was in front of Rogan and 5+ million eyes/ears
Fun fact: Hitchens once called a biography Douglas Murray wrote "Masterly". The biography was about a romantic partner of Oscar Wilde and Murray wrote it while he was 19, in his second year at Oxford University.
Ots all started by muslim brotherhood. 100 yr take over. First education system. Notice they are the only people that are protected in univ thry hold them up.
@@birdsong985 The only Muslim Brotherhood I am aware of in the UK is the one that was democratically elected to power in Egypt and then brought down by a western coup and the leaders executed......EXECUTED!!!! Is Mubarak still alive??
@@utv5490 it is written document by mbh. 100 yr take over of America and as you see the same steps is being implemented in UK etc. Look up Brigette Gabriel and what she went through in Lebanon when they took them in then yrs later took over. They turned on them.
I agree and I so wish the new season was happening now. I can only imagine what they would do with everything going on. I'm just hoping that they or the network don't cave to the sjw's.
Well.... in a bear suit.... in a car. I’m not sure I would call that ‘holding the line’. I don’t blame SP by the way, more likely some Comedy Central exec got scared. For a good reason, obviously. But still, I’m not as impressed as it seem others in this thread are. Did they make a statement, sure. But that is about all I’d call it.
Oh STFU with your regurgitating nonsense . Just because he speaks queens english calmly - does not mean he is not a typical english , racist twat hiding behind plausible deniability , whilst posing as an academic . Your anti-Islam crusades are ridiculous - way to get played by divide and conquer 2018 .
Are you mentally stable? What are you even on about? What does that have to do with Douglas here? Or what paulus said? What is it exactly you disagree with? Nothing it seems. Just peddling unrelated nonsense to pass the time? Do you deny that Europe's current immigration policies are unmanageable and destructive? Do you deny that the Quran is full rubbish?
Hate? What hate? Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? Sounds to me like you're projecting. When's the last time you had cocaine? 5 minutes ago? I didn't hate on anything, I'm asking you questions and you respond to something I didn't say. Something is off. Either you're reading comprehension or you mental stability. I'm guessing both. Either answer my straight forward questions, or seek help.
1.''Do you deny that Europe's current immigration policies are unmanageable and destructive? '' 2. ''Do you deny that the Quran is full rubbish?'' 1. No - this earth is not the exclusive property of white europeans . Exodus , movement of the people . 2. Some truth , some horseshit , mixed together to create a religious order .
Most of the clips I watch with Murray involve him in an extremely confrontational environment. It's good to see him in this relaxed atmosphere. He seems like a really cool dude.
exactly if a devoted Muslim quoted a Quran verse that encourages Muslims to kill apostates this is OK according to FB but if I said that I hate Muslims for this sh* I get banned wtf really
Mohamed Nofal - quoting a verse by the Quran or the Bible is not the same as an individual expressing hate towards a group of people, quit being stupid, Mohamed. These books were written centuries ago, personal comments coming from your mind are a different thing, thermistor no comparison.
@@erwinkunze4091 no quoting the Quran is much worse than quoting the bible or my opinion because they really follow these verses and consider it holly religion created an atmosphere of hate and discrimination how am I supposed to reply when someone read a text that says that I should get killed for leaving Islam and then incorporate this text into the law like what happens Muslim majority countries...... Islam interferes heavily in politics its by nature a socio-political doctrine until Muslim learn how to separate the state and the church Islam should be criticized without any restrictions if not the consequences are going to be really bad I promise you
Great podcast I know some people think that these kinds of podcasts are boring but I like them even more then the more comedy focused podcasts but that might just be me.
the reason this podcast is so successful is because of the variety.Joe can have a back and forth with the best of them, very few people who follow this podcast would label any of these shows "boring".
Absolutely. What’s to learn or think about when it’s just comedians shooting the shit. Those are nice to just decompress to while paying half attention. If it wasn’t for the more intellectual guests he gets, I wouldn’t watch very often at all. Couldn’t even watch the Don Iguella (how ever it’s spelled with out checking), so boring. Either way who are any of us to give him shit for the FREE entertainment/informative podcasts. We could be stuck watching cable news! Yarrrrgggghhhh
@@domfrancis3140 Like who? Name someone like Douglas Murray who is being targeted? Why would someone target a posh inneffectual fop who just appears on Sunday morning discussion programmes so he can Muslim bash?? Bullshitters!!!
The Duke Of Leopard second shit posting I have seen from you, and as a former soldier, D Murray is brave, for saying things that need to be discussed in this country that could have him arrested, I thought you lefties thought being gay and out was brave, or are you now a homophobe ??? That is the difference between “Normies” and leftists, you lefties do not hold yourself to the same standards you scream about ! That’s why we have the situations like Brexit, Trump and the far right parties in France and Germany rising is because of non critical thinking people like you, who have displayed no honour, no self sacrifice, no tolerance outside of your own safe space. Your idea of bravery seems to be bending the knee and repeat what you are told too, every Normie and centrist, traditional liberal and obviously the right see it as pure cowardice, I no longer care the best years of my life are behind me, and I enjoyed them, if you are a young man, the future you seem to want for yourself is one that someone else will prescribe to you... well good luck with that !!! Oh as your are a Duke, I should end with.... my Lord ;)
People find it very difficult to distinguish between hate speech and speech by people they hate, and that's why hate speech rules and laws are dangerous.
The idea that a person may be guilty of 'Hate Speech' is Orwellian. People should be judged on their deeds only and bad ideas should be openly challenged. Their expression should not be stifled.
I think that’s a fight they can’t win. Joe is way too influential and damn near untouchable. The views he gets is an extremely thick armor that I do t think they can penetrate. Just my opinion of course, take care.
It's not a leftist dogma. It might be on the internet, but this is not reality. Where I find PC outrage culture most prevalent is in the so called liberal center and silicon valley/hollywood pseudo-leftists. People who are more pro status quo than anybody and have so little to offer to ordinary people that they revert to fake outrage over topics of hardly any significance. Regarding questions of socio-economics, they are firmly on the right or have no opinions at all.
@Steve Arnold - Joe is controlled opposition, and as long as he pushes the approved agenda, he will be fine. If he says something outside the boundary of approved ideology, they would disappear Joe tomorrow. And he knows it. Joe is a shill. A very rich shill.
definitely. Scared the shit out of me if truth be told, but like Jordan Peterson, really joins the dots like no other intellectual has been able to up until now on the subject of the culture wars that are currently raging across the western world.
New book out now, Madness of Crowds, is another essential read. It is fantastic, hilarious, cutting, thought provoking. One of the best authors of our time.
I'd argue that even the moderate left is extremely dangerous today. They may not be violent but they are complicit and they're not a small number at the vanishing thin edge of the left side of the distribution bell curve. So their complacency and acceptance of wokeness is enough to suck all of us into the authoritarianism vortex of anti reason.
I've listened to hour after hour after hour of Jordan Peterson's lectures, interviews, and vlogs and if you think he is actively engaging in HATE speech then you are actively engaging in hating SPEECH.
I, too have partaken in his lobsteryness and concur your statement. What that means for future discourse is up for grabs but a degeneration process has begun and that seems absolute.
Unseen, thanks for the reply!...I agree that regarding discourse a degeneration certainly has happened...But with Professor Peterson leading the charge, and those like him, I am hopeful:)
I agree with you. It is amazing how quickly people will say Douglas Murray or Jordan Peterson are racists, bigots, etc. but when asked for an example they cannot point to anything. If they dislike a fact someone say than the person who stated the fact is a bigot. It is really scary how quickly people are willing to label each other.
Is the radical left far better than the radical right? I think it's beginning to lose the moral high ground here. The death of free speech is its own fascism.
I would say the radical left is larger, more deranged and more dangerous than the radical right at this current time. It's not difficult to understand the far right... religious conservatism, racism, nationalism, patriotism etc. are all easy concepts to understand but the far left are bat-shit crazy hypocritical fools. Makes no sense.
@@toby9999the far left is just as easy to understand. They fall in line with the exact opposite of all the right wing values you listed. The far right were essentially puritanical fanatics but that's shifted to the left and they have become exactly what they hate. It's all projection. Secular puritans based completely in their own self-righteousness.
@Aaron Hawley I couldn't agree more. When you take an all knowing deity behind the ideology pushing its agenda any secular values no matter how asinine they seem, they just don't pose the same threat that history books are filled with by God fearing mass murdering zealots.
Giovanni Gentile who innovated the idea of fascism considered himself on the left. Mussolini, the first person to try and implement fascism on any scale was a socialist. At least in America, some of the core tenets of the right wing is federalism and individual rights, which are directly contradictory to nationalism or socialism. No nation isn't nationalist and most 1st world nations are socialistic, so using these terms as disparagements are vacuous statements. However, they have little if anything relatable to the American right wing and point by point very closely resemble the modern American left wing. Left and right wing definitions are so abused to be meaningless anymore. I go by the political compass which has a strict definition and places fascism as authoritarian center. The more meaningful spectrum is between authoritarian and libertarian. The problem with the Nazis wasn't nationalism, socialism, or racism. The problem with the Nazis is they committed genocide. They were authoritarian. Fascism is militant national socialism, the militant part is the problem.
@@shadfurman The right extreme is Corporatism, and the left, Statism. They're equally elitist and corruptible, and authoritarianism-dependent. That's why libertarians are so centrist.
@Edith K The truth is, Hitler didn't give a shit about economics. He used the idea of socialism to get the public behind him, yet he was all for private property to generate wealth. He used whatever he could for power. People tend to focus on Hitler being placed on the left or right. People should be focusing on the fact he was pro-authoritarian. He would never have been in such a position to do what he did if the power wasn't so centralised.
In order not to be labelled as bigots and be politically correct, the British Police and Child Protection Services ignored and tried to bury atrocities in Rochdale and Roterham. THIS IS WHAT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WILL LEAD THE WORLD TOO.
People have stop worrying about being a bigot islamaphob if me being a proud and caring American patriot then so be it we have to wakeup and stand up for our country look up Act for America.
@@cdecde2858When You say 'Murica , you mean First Nation Land pillaged and genocided by... White European men ? Fuck your nationalism , you traded patriotism for humanity .
He is in my top ten for glassing with a beer glass. Sad his dad is a Gealic speaking Scot, I wished he had been raised in Scotland spoke Gealic and had a good healthy dose of Scots collectivism.
When you notice that your point of view is being censored, it's already too late . Remember history or it will repeat the same atrocious actions. When we as a society begins to censor any speech we will quash all speech. I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it.
All demographics have to be covered, the knuckle draggers to those people that reflect and think in depth from several different perspectives, who change society for the better,
@@smartchip I didn't say that politics was a science. But, misnomer or not, the study of politics is referred to as political science. The difference between a text book and a RU-vid podcast is the textbook will teach opinion as opinion while the podcast will teach it as fact. And stop acting like sitting on your arse watching dopey RU-vid videos is some kind of profound crusade against the forces of oppression. It's the modern day equivalent of getting stoned and watching the Discovery Channel.
Wether Joe knows it or not he took over for Johny fever (phone police) oh big joke. Then talk radio and Joe's tinfoil hat stereo type.im sure doesn't know he's a parroting shill.
Joe buys himself time making statements how the far left is better than the far right. Won't save him, mostly because that claim won't be true. I'll take a racist over someone who wants to shred personal liberty.
I love how they argue that you need knowledge of history and then argue that far left is better than far right. I guess they missed the history of russian and chinese communism.
I feel that the left and right and what they stand for have shifted many times in human history. Enviromentalism used to be more of a right wing issue now it’s more left, republicans where more like todays democrats and so on. :)
@@vikb4151 The world is constantly chaning - what a shocker (not). Imo this ignorance is a result of messing with educational system. Bezmenov was right. And Epstein didnt kill himslef.
@Michael Jones Stalin enslaved most of the Russian nation, not to mention Ukraine; he started to exterminate the Jews there, not to mention the smaller races in the south of Russia, like the Cossacks, etc. He murdered more than a million of his own people and put 4 million in prisons where many of them died from starvation. I can hate Nazis and Commies at the same time like I can hate cancer and AIDS.
Thank you Joe, Jamie the entire JRE crew and particularly Douglas. Been on a Douglas Murray video binge over the last couple days and is a fascinating thinker. Keep spreading the word and we will find our way out of this freakin' mess.
Academics or the Intelligentsia, quite sane, most of them, tend to see him as an ignorant, prejudiced 'wanker'. Seemingly a bit miffed the Brits no longer own most of the world.
I never knew Douglas Murray could be so funny. These three hour conversations bring out qualities in his guests you can't see when they have two or three minutes at best on mainstream TV
Hilarious that Joe thinks being "far left" is "way better" than "far right." I think we have enough information to know they are indistinguishable from one another in their levels of shittiness.
One advocates for the rights of minorities and the poor and the other advocates for genocide of those groups. But okay, can you explain to me why you think they're the same?
@Ben B. Seems pretty clear you have a fundamental misunderstanding of it yourself. You can get both left and right wing authoritarianism. Seen so many right wingers trying to rewrite both history and political theory lately. Where are you getting this information from?
@Ben B. "I hope you wake up to the idiocy that is your "belief" systems." if only you were intelligent enough to understand the irony of that statement
With the bigotry running through the left and the fascist tactics that they're using, how can Joe say the far left is better than the far right? I'm sure a bike lock to the back of the head feels the same regardless of the political affiliation of the person swinging it.
Because he's invested in the system - which is politically correct. I've noticed he argues in similar fashion to Leftists on all the major issues and fault lines of current times. Pure cowardice!
He’s talking about the modern American versions of the far left vs far right. For all the American far lefts faults, they haven’t killed anyone (yet) whereas the far right actually has killed people.
William Reeves the unite the right rally left a counter protester dead. All the others are mostly isolated incidents, but there’s a laundry list of far right killings in the US
aisdt09astd 79atsb9d - i think about a third of the way thru. Joe was saying he was out one evening with a group including someone from Google / RU-vid who explained why Jordan had likely received a strike
+Bobby Z There's actually some evidence that strike was part of a glitch affecting some people at the time, but Joe's reporting of what people who work at RU-vid think is enlightening regardless.
"Hate Speech" legislation is code for 'Blasphemy Law', which really means "don't criticize islam" law. The Bill of Rights 1689 2nd Section Article 9 "That the Freedom of Speech and Debates or Proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any Court or Place out of Parliament."
I think it's actually code for the supremacy of progressivism, not sharia creep. If that comes it would be later when the natives are ever so demoralized.
"Street sharia", like the term, as I think we can see in Brittain. And it's so brazen that it's boggling... except it isn't boggling. It's brazen bc it can be, bc they recognize a space within which to move, and doing what they do, they move. We can actually perceive, if one is shrewd about it, that many of their numbers are actually playing us off against each other as though no one was even watching. So take, say, asking questions outside a mosque and having the Imam call the police about "harassment". But it begs the question, can they play us off against each other while we simply do not have our own moral order established, or rather, adhered to? (respected by our own) This division or decline in "moral order", if you will, I think is the heart of the problem and why people, like myself, are very uneasy about having so many of them. There is not the strong current that used to be which would carry them along with us while not having to worry about the subversive potential of new people(s).
I didn't make a prognosis, but, you can perceive my... ahem, consternation. We have a wider problem of course than Islam. The Vancouver Sun is calling the locals "denizens" if you catch my drift? vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-does-chinas-money-threaten-canadas-sovereignty Meanwhile, what does the "People's Republic" have but nukes and a billion strong slave labor force? Nothing. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy is 12% export based. I mean the world could implode and they'd be relatively immune. And yet, the whole west is Kowtowing to them.
Yeah. Joe's repeated expression of a preference for radical leftists over white supreemists (/s) is the kind of dichotomous thinking that keeps our current crop of elites in power.
Have ( read ) both the death of Europe and now halfway through the madness of crowds, a beacon of sanity in todays chaos. Great interview lets have him back joe
