Hello you legends. Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Have Douglas’s Predictions Come True? 01:55 Victoria’s Secret Revert Back to Sexy 07:01 Society’s View of Having Children 12:03 Why Can’t We Agree on Truth? 17:24 Did New Atheism Actually Work? 24:31 How Celebrities Use Causes to Look Good 27:18 Why Women Support Body Positivity 30:13 The Negative Impacts of Low Self-Esteem 35:52 Who Actually Was George Orwell? 40:14 How K-Pop Is Causing Female Mental Health Issues 46:38 How Successful Will Gays For Gaza Be? 55:01 Is Douglas a Conspiracy Theorist? 1:03:10 The West’s Move Beyond Peak-Woke 1:12:40 People Who Have the Same Opinions on Everything 1:25:25 Humans Are Supposed to Be Resilient 1:37:23 HSBC’s Reimagined ‘Fairer’ Tales 1:45:33 Creating a Positive Vision For the Future 1:59:56 What’s Next For Douglas
There’s an irrational obsession in my mind with why, in your master shot, the right-hand picture in the centre column is around 1cm (at a guess) lower than the left picture. But Chris… why would you do this? Why, Chris? Why?! Answers on a postcard to…
Chris - you've said in previous podcasts that you're totally onboard with the moral imperative to eliminate animals from your diet (even if you don't do it yourself). So why promote a venison brand?
I’m a woman who has had a battle with my weight for my entire life. Through honesty, consistency and hard work, for the most part, I’ve been successful. With that said, the ABSOLUTE last thing I need, desire or want is to see overweight models. Give me something to strive towards, not another excuse. Trust me, I can come up with enough of those on my own.
I‘m a woman with no fighting experience and when I was 18 I was mugged by 2 guys. I fought for my stuff as long as I could even though they crept up on me from behind and threw me to the ground straight away. I fought for about 6 Minutes (hard to tell) before they had overwhelmed me by choking me and took my stuff. They broke my nose, left me with lifelong bitemarks and a black eye. Now at 40 I am still proud they took that long.
You got to know when to hold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run You never count your money When you're sittin' at the table There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealing's done They say it is most often better for women to scream and make a lot of noise. Most likely theives like to do their nasties without drawing attention.
In the future, stop wearing expensive stuff, carry less than 100USD on you. Even if you own an expensive purse and happened to be wearing it while being mugged, just give it to them. Nothing on you should be worth your health and life. Just give it to them. You now have a broken nose, so it likely doesn’t work the same or look the same. It could have been much much worse such as a severe concussion, other broken bones or death. Please be careful and evaluate your priorities
My father made a great comment to me one day, years ago about the great depression in 1929. He said "we didn't know there was a great depression. we were always poor."
@@danfontaine8179 I truly believe younger people today think it's worse, because at your fingertips you can see all the things you wish you had. Back then (shoot, the 90s), we never had this issue. You feel like you can get away with less if you're not aware of what comprises the "more."
@@PeteNice29yep! back in 1929 you had a factory owner or a lord that owned a car and spent the winter in the south of France .... and you had a 16hour work day (or close to it) - but so did everyone you knew! And you certainly didn't have millionaires on the screen all the time whose only talent was to kick a football or not being able to spell their own name.
I smiled when I read this comment - your mind is clearly still open and hungry for nourishment. In that sense, you are very much alive, and younger than your years. I'm 63, and intend never to stop listening, reading and learning. 👍
@sisiphas I agree with your assessment of this conversation, but I can think of an even better one: if they got together again to talk and had you as a guest. With all you've undoubtedly seen, your experience and insights would surely enrich the discussion. I'd love to hear that.
An observation from a chronically uncourageous man: My mother would never hesitate to deploy shame as a way to control her son, and it left me afraid to embrace and integrate my masculinity. My father, though present, was never strong enough to offset the effect of her neuroses, and like a puppy learning to bite, I struggled to find the sweet spot between slobbering and drawing blood. It’s maybe 40 years too late, but men like Chris, Douglas, Jordan and Jocko are helping to show me the way, and I can’t begin to express my gratitude for their wisdom.
We need strong men. "Toxic masculinity" is a ridiculous term that is slandered around much like everything else that is labelled racist including math. Be proud to be a man 😊 and keep growing.. we all learn and grow and have much to "unlearn" ...society needs strong/masculine men and nurturing supportive women to thrive....keep going @misteroz
keep working on it. you can remake yourself. you do have the ability to be the MAN you desire to be. reading your list of men you are listening to / watching is a fantastic group for your aspirations. shoot for the stars buddy…you can do it!
@@mb8219 Toxic masculinity is very much a think. The problem is how you interpret it. Saying to a man he shouldn't cry when he was hurt physically or emotionally is toxic masculinity. However calling a man that was nice enough to open a door for a woman "toxic masculinity" is wrong and cheapens the definition
@@TheLucanicLordSo go and hangout with cowards, double standard people and hypocrites. That sentence was said in certain context. So try to understand concept of context.
@@ArinaThomsen "fearlessly and ruthlessly" The two attributes you are conflating seldom go together, and at any rate are definitely independent. Your reply is not an argument.
Bull's-eye!! I love listening to Jordan Peterson, in thrall of his intellect, hanging onto his every word, nearly breathless... and Douglas is just as much scary-smart, but he is also entertaining as hell! The cadence of his speech, the wickedly sly humor, the phrasing (it's like listening to Wayne Shorter on sax), the eloquence of his eyes and facial expressions - virtuoso performance! Imagine sitting down for a chat with him on the terrace of a seaside villa, under a striped jumbo umbrella, the azure Mediterranean, glass-smooth, stretching down below toward the hazy horizon under the afternoon sun... Sadly, too many conservative sages of comparable caliber are just droning scolds...
@@markrymanowski719 Oh so 911 WAS an inside job? 6ft distancing did something?. Masks helped? The hospitalization rate was over 30% . decorated Harvard educated doctors were not being silenced on twitter?
I'm feeling pretty good listening to this. I've protected people on public transportation by stepping in more times than I can count. I'm not the guy who sits idly by, I will defend. I'm not talking about physical violence, it's never been needed. All that was needed was someone willing to be violent (me) confronting the bully, or the creep, or the mentally ill person. I'm also a 6'2" 200 lb former college goalkeeper. My favorite opening lines: "HEY. If you want to bully someone, bully me," and "Get your fucking hands off her." I think the reason i jump in is because I was abused and bullied as a kid, and wanted someone to protect me. Much love from Spokane, Washington
'Steady on the donuts' The casual delivery of that line... caught me completely off-guard and had me laughing out loud. Forget sometimes that not only is Douglas Murray a very intelligent man with powerful insights about the big stories of our time, he can also be very, very funny...
i laughed out loud several times for this convo. these two play off one another very well. could have them on in my background…soundtrack of my life…forever! ❤
Yet he’s scared to actually debate these subjects he’s so passionate about. That’s very telling of his intelligence. His inability to see both sides also push one sided narratives while claiming to be a journalist also speaks volumes
Watching people fawn over this over rated over hyped limited hangout midwit is just sickening. Gift to people who want to be told what to think without having to think. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The left are now such a joke scoring cheap obvious political points with them is child's play.
My only hope is that people will take Douglas Murray’s wise words to heart. We must act on them, and we must defend our civilization. The smart people must act in unison and March and shout out the truth for everyone to hear before the truth is completely outlawed and its utterance punishable by death.
People like Murray from the PMC class are part of the problem. My worry is that the mismanagement will become so bad, people will turn to a kind of fascism (which is what I think Murray's benefactors are planning for).
@@johnneil14 I agree and came to the same conclusion not too long ago. Best solution now for young people in the UK is to emigrate to where their talents are more appreciated and valued.
The American led west is sinking. The east is rising. History is cyclical. Time spirals. Ebbs and flows. All Murray is doing is speeding up the wests descent into the chaotic abyss....
Common sense is not a part of Murrays schtic. He is an elitist. One of the rich men spurring on the lower classes to do battle with each other, while he gets more wealthy....
@@22448824 Indeed. The Hamas event in Israel also signifies the essence of everything else that he’s warned about in his books, The War on the West, The Strange Death of Europe and The Madness of Crowds. The Hamas attack and the subsequent support for Palestine in the woke west is a shocking sign that everything he wrote about about is now in our face
I highly suspect that 99% of the people who say listening to Joe Rogan is a red flag have never actually listened to his podcast, they've just heard a few sound bites or seen selected clips of some inflammatory comment or guest.
you are right. The man just has fun on the podcast, its such a positive, fun and jolly aura, but some people will still find negative in it. I guess 'you attract what you are'.
Being a female in Los Angeles, men told me many times on dates that I should absolutely not be listening to Rogan. They also explained to me exactly why I felt Joe Biden was creepy (and of course, I was wrong to feel that way), as if I couldn’t explain it myself. One even tried to explain to me why Marxism was necessary in America and then proceeded to explain I was a “madonna” and he was still in his “whore” phase. I had to look that one up later. Thank god I eventually met my husband who is moderate and level headed like me. I even got him hooked on Rogan ;)
I knew this episode would be good, but I didn’t expect it to be so bloody funny! Thank both of you for being courageous enough to stand against the common narrative.
@@62CristoforoYeah, I'm going to walk that back a bit. These aren't at the level of The Socratic Dialogues, but they're approaching the level of an A.S. Byatt interview. 😅
Thomas Sowell, Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray. Three of the classiest, most intelligent people out there who are trying to fight nonsense with common sense.
I'm quite aware that I'm brown what with being a quarter Jamaican, I managed 40 years without it ever being an issue in any area of my life ever! I have never looked at a Union Jack or the St Georges Cross with anything other than pride and belonging. I wasn't taught to hate but I also wasn't taught to be stupid. Why does this government now promote hate and stupidity to my children? I am sorry that my children will never know the country I grew up in.
In a sane world we’d have someone like Douglas Murray as PM and characters like Sunak and Johnson on podcasts selling books. Everything is upside down.
@@alexandradekanova771 I mean selling their own books. Johnson already done it w biographies and fiction, just wish he'd stuck to it full time tbh. Sunak should be writing books about how to sort out your credit score and finance a company car etc. It's about their right level, not running a country.
... it's worth noting though, that whilst this is an admirable thing to strive towards, it is far too easy to alloow oneself to be deluded into being surrounded by confident fools. Courage comes from many places, but the deluded and the religous rarely lack it's worst forms.
When Douglas sort of looks off into the distance with a little smile and says "well that's the classic thing, the place you end up is the place you started from." For some reason my heart melted.
England? What do you mean? England is a region of the UK, surely? And in the grand scheme of things England, aka the UK, is in an absolute spiral of destruction and is fast on its why to being a third world country. The debt and the foundations are unsustainable. And this guy that you're praising actually left to go live in the bastion of corruption, so I guess that shows you just how patriotic he is. It's all about the self, remember... And the last time I was in England, it seemed to me to be a country full of not very English looking or sounding people. Perhaps one should consider getting ones house in order? Patriotism, being the last refuge of the scoundrel, and all that. 😢
@@stevencarson9228 Reread my comment. And your observations are duly noted, which is why y’all need someone like Douglas Murray to run the country of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And the last time I checked, Douglas Murray was born in London, which makes him a Englishman. Remember, all Englishmen are British, but not all Brits are Englishmen.
He reads a lot, much wisdom can be accrued from the writings of others. I think modern day folks think that reading actual books is something antiquated and a poor use of time... Murray is an excellent example of that not being true.
Dear Douglas, I realize that you self identify as an atheist but as an American evangelical, l want to say may the Lord bless and keep you! You are blessed with great intellect, uncompromising integrity and quick wit. You are one of my favorite pundits. I pray that you have adept paid professionals guarding your back. You are bold to call out injustice and predict negative outcomes as you see them. You are ruffling the feathers of some large predatory birds. I really appreciate the voice of reason that you raise! Continued courage and confident humility to you!
I'm halfway through this video and need to say that this is one of the most intelligent, honest, straightforward, discussion I've heard in a very long time. Douglass has so much knowledge and it impresses me how he can be so serious and still have such a hilarious sense of humor.
Murrays undeniably English wit is complimented by his depth of knowledge in general. 2 hours well spent and enjoyed. The world is on fire and these two put some sense to it for a short while with a fair amount of comedy intertwined, thank you.
@@PeteNice29it's to the point where, unfortunately many of Jewish descent across the Western world imagine they are the present victims, that everything happening now for several weeks is about them - call it the ADL mindset, where people selectively grab onto and 'personalize' all events and little signs in the world, blowing them up to portend catastrophe just for their group but without any sense of context or general likelihood of that in their comfortable safe prosperous little Western lives. No wonder the ethnic cleansing carries on, unopposed by the world. Humans can have unreasonable self-obsessed concern.
I loved this chat so much I will replay it tomorrow. I need to wrap my own head around the madness of the times without allowing it to get totally under my skin - but I thank God for platforms like these with you and Douglas - and other times withJordan Peterson who fight for our rights simply by talking about it.
@@zeuseygastony6385I'm just wondering why you think that your opinion as to whether he should automatically enter debates just because you think he should, is valid? People are sometimes invited to partake in debates, discussions, or events. Acceptance of invitations is not mandatory. One chooses to take part or not. For example, have you attended every wedding, birthday party, or other event, to which you were invited?
my dad used to say to me when i was working 7 days a week, not seeing my girls grow up, he said "one day, you will be the richest man in the graveyard" i never forgot that! thanks dad! xx
I used to be quite centrist with my politics, but in the last six or seven years, since Brexit I have began to really despise the left and its insidious relationship with the MSM. All the slurs about being far right, facist, Nazis, xenophobic and so on which are thrown about if you dare have a view outside of the liberal London elites narrative has become insufferable. So fed up with endless wokeism, the endless race baiting and Britain hating mobs that always get their own way. I see this country slipping away and its sad, but I think the biggest battle is against the Britain hating leftists who are determined to diminish this nation as some kind of morale repentance!
@pershorefoodbanktrusseltr. What’s wrong is extremism. On every side. It always leads to pain, hunger and injustice.. The right-wing rich have abandoned Britain. They live and invest abroad. The London elites live in , and on the media. But , in their communities, ordinary people will speak as they find, regardless of dogma. They really do love their country. Everything they have is here.
As an American, I've known who Douglas was in the periphery for several years now. I've been seeing him in the last month or so come up in my feed with a lot more regularity. I've become a fan in the last month.
@@chefmcd7788 No one is, Indeed. I imagine that thought would terrify and humble people. But humility is not something most people seem to value within themselves. Whatever the case, what do you think Douglas is lying to himself about? How can you be sure it's actual "moral clarity" and it doesn't just SEEM that way? Because it jibes with your own sense of morals? Because a bunch of people agree with him? Because he's sold a lot of books? Is any of this evidence enough? Do you have other evidence? And how can you be 100% certain you're not lying to yourself about what YOU think is moral/immoral?
I'm Dutch. We've had a housing shortage for decades, at least in the areas with research universities and jobs for that education level. The government has done virtually nothing to solve this. In fact, they've made it so much worse by retaining the totally unfair income tax break they give to highly-educated foreign workers, by attracting probably tens of thousands of foreign students (if not more), by allowing in all these illegals and refugees and their dependents. Hardly any additional housing was built over the past couple of decades. Social housing is a mess and favours people who no longer fit the profile but who aren't kicked out, blocking up social housing with waiting lists now between 10-20 years in some areas. I got more education opportunities than my parents did but I've also got more ambition and I'm more suited to higher education. And we mustn't forget degree inflation where jobs you used to be able to get with a Master's now require a PhD... My parents had more economic benefits I'd say as housing and raising a family was affordable even on one income of a skilled manual labourer. That's totally out of the question now, I think? But I do think our expectations are also different. The house my parents bought was a dump and required a lot of work. I'm not willing to do that, I guess also because of how much it would still cost despite being a dump... My parents will likely get the full state pension when I'm willing to bet this no longer exists when I'm 65+ despite me having to pay into this now.
I’m a 50 y/o nobody from USA and I saw the Muslim migration disaster 15 years ago .. 🤷♀️I think everyone did with a functioning frontal lobe and the ability to be honest . However I don’t have anything to lose unlike Douglas. We need more Douglas’s in the world .
I am 68 and it was hard buying a home in 1983. We had to sacrifice a lot of things and we were always in debt. After the house was paid it went a little better. But when it came to needs like clothes, Dad came first because he was the bread winner, kids came second and mom always sacrificed. It becomes such an ingrained way of thinking, being a widow with two grown sons i am still like that.😮
I saw homes go from 250k to 450k in like 10 years, I watched cars go from 25k to 40k. I'd say its way harder to afford anything atm, not a little harder.
I'm blown away at how he remembered CS Lewis poem pertaining to wartime: “Men propound mathematical theorems in beleaguered cities, conduct metaphysical arguments in condemned cells, make jokes on scaffolds, and comb their hair at Thermopylae. This is not panache; it is our nature.“
Douglas' thoughts at the 50-minute mark about the logical conclusion of the "colonizers" argument were simultaneously profound and hilarious. I had always known their arguments were bunk but to hear it put this way just makes it so obvious.
I LOVE DOUGLAS! So refreshing to hear brilliance on display FINALLY! So sad that not even one of our Western politicians comes close to his intelligence 😢
Most of the politicians are highly intelligent. They are prisoners to the status quo. So is Murray to a point. He won't say 9/11 was a false flag. He won't explain how serious climate change is. I like him, but he is a prisoner to some of the lies as all luminaries are.
These must be bots lol, Who the heck thinks murray is smart lol. He doesn’t even think so, as evident by him always backing out of debates where his knowledge can actually be scrutinized.
@@zeuseygastony6385So now you're claiming that he always backs out of debates? Are you saying that Douglas has never taken part in a debate? Maybe you could consider checking facts, before you make an absolutist statement?
I discovered Douglas Murray a few weeks ago. What a brilliant, clear thinking guy. He says what so many of us are thinking and he does it in an amazingly articulated manner.
I've come here directly from listening to this in its entirety on Spotify. A first for me and a podcast of this length. Two of my favourite tellers of truth in one place is an early Christmas. Absolutely first class. Douglas great value as always and Chris keeping the quality soaring. Bravo! 👏👏
Articulate is an understatement. He speaks complete truth and that's why he does not lose the plot as he never has to cover up or run around to try to hold up the discussion........It allows me to regain my sanity in this mad social media world to listen to his comments........ great vlog guys
Thank you for having Douglas Murray on the Podcast. He has one of the most beautiful Minds of the 21st century! I could listen to his lectures or interviews everyday!
@@mychealleftfoot9030, that's it. Break out your false pejoratives for your Ad Honinem attacks. Smile and wait for the flash. We shall be with you shortly.
he literally is - read his stuff instead of falling for the coz-play. ad hominem attacks are valid when the person is a danger to others.@@WanderingWarrior1776
This is one of the best recent interviews with Douglas Murray I've seen. It wonderful to see his easy, subtle sense of humor in these tense times. An excellent, far-ranging interview. Murray is one of the most important voices in the world right now. We could use ten more of him, but we should consider ourselves blessed to have just the one.
I could listen to Douglas Murray talk endlessly. He's introduced the word "boring" into my personal lexicon, which feels much more satisfying to say rather than, "not worth wasting my time on".
I've watched a lot of Douglas Murray's interviews, they're always fascinating, but this one flowed perfectly, I think it was a perfect combination of interviewer and guest. So now I've discovered Chris Williamson as well.
The way you both dissected points throughout the conversation was nourishment for not only my brain but my soul. Thank you for reverse engineering peoples insanity with articulation, logic, rationale, and brilliant quotes. schadenfreude for the scalp had me dying …. Chris, you’re on fire keep it up.
At 1:28:00 His words become extremely powerful. “There will always be chaos that you can’t control. Get on with your life and don’t wait for better days that may never come, do what you should be doing and if not start today and don’t wait”. I have been down from circumstances I can’t control for 3 years and the last year has been very hard and I have given up the last few months. After hearing this the way he said it, I paused, repeated, went on line and enrolled for a 10 week night course that I have been wanting to do. I have to live my life and manage the stress with down time but not opt out of life. Got it, thank you, thank you thank you Sir ❤
We are entering the golden era of podcasting people. And we witnessed it unfold and grow right in front of our eyes. All these powerhouses of podcasters and guest. Collaborating and reaching a far wider and more honest audience then everything mainstream. Not solely our knowledge, but also our hope grows every time. Thanks Chris and team. You can be proud. And thank you Douglas for all that you stand for and fight for aswel.
The expressions D. Murray pulls when hes going fringe makes me laugh. Love these guys, both are a credit to England and make me proud to be a fellow Englishman
Re:the bit about the current popularity of victimhood and the lack of resilience embraced almost as a virtue, I have an example of how earlier generations handled misfortune. The Mississippi floods out of its banks at intervals. Many years ago, there was one such flood that was so bad that it reached homes and farms that were well back away from the river and were usually not in danger. The government declared an emergency and organized help and relief funds for those affected. The situation was covered on the national news for a while. Then some reports came in of people who actually turned away help. I recall that at the time I was amazed but not really surprised because it was commonly known that there were people who were "too proud to accept help". You'd never see that now. Instead we have entire "communities" of people who make a career of "demanding" help and special treatment. It's pathetic.
Douglas Murray's assertion that George Orwell opined that a man's character shows in his face after the age of forty is doubtless correct, but the first time I heard it reported was when an colleague of Franklin Delano Roosevelt told him that a man in the room wanted to speak with him, and FDR retorted "I don't like the guy's face", to which the colleague said "You can't judge a man by his face", only to be told "After the age of forty, every man is responsible for his face".
“At 50, everyone has the face he deserves,” wrote George Orwell in 1949. These were apparently the last words the Nineteen Eighty-Four author penned in his personal diary. Interesting, I think everything is usually a riff on something similar said before and likely true that if FDR had said that then Orwell would have been aware on some level
Douglas is a legend at this time, he is so on with Shakespeare, my father insisted on his daughters reading the classics and at 13 I started reading Shakespeare, the truth is at first did not grasp a thing. Now at 66 I have read them about 5 times and each time I see different things.
Abe Lincoln rose to rhetorical preeminence through self-study. And before the law, it was limited to the KJV Bible and Shakespeare’s play. That’s the power of great literature.
I want to thank you for allowing e to discover this podcast. It is such a blast to watch or to watch slowly when I have time during the day. Chris does a fantastic job at interviewing these people and leveling the energy of the interviewees without losing skepticism, I love it.
Such a great man! Douglas, you are that great spirit of smart British men I remember from previous decades. Smart, witty, reasonable, one that can understand good old jokes without political correctness narrative. Regards from Croatia!
As a builder , no you cannot build affordable housing. The hidden costs are crippling by Government and Councils. Plus the past generation, saved to buy a house. No holidays, even weekends away, no pub, no dining out, no new cloths etc etc etc. This generation spends on luxuries continuously . They expect with putting no effort in.
This interview demonstrates the difference between being 'intelligent' with that of merely being an 'intellectual'! Very somber and logical conversations discussed in a clam and collected manner!
Douglas is one of my favorite guests! As someone who didn't give up the wallet (jacket specifically in my case) as a 16 year old growing up in Madrid it was a defining moment for me. Thank you for all this great content. I have also downloaded some of your books from the 100 list to my audible. Have a positive day and safe travels!
