Bret Weinstein was a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. He is now hosting "Bret Weinstein's Dark Horse Podcast" available on Apple Podcasts and RU-vid. @DarkHorsePod
Bret has always been,bravely, sounding the alarm. When 1 set of ppl own the language they then enslave discourse. Free speech & reason” are not on the menu. You are.
@@SFbayArea94121 I have to agree with Joe on this one. If they're not threatening anyone (regardless of their history [unless they have a tendency towards violence and are in possession of a deadly weapon]) then I don't see a problem with them being driven home, or even charged with disorderly conduct and booked...But KILLING them? That's not right.
@@chrisadkins6394 He got behind the wheel drunk. So, umm... no to the rest of it. You get behind the wheel drunk, you know the consequences. Tired of the stupidity. Enough. I've paid way, way more than I wanted to for an Uber - home and back - before. But guess what? I made the choice to drink too much. Choices have consequences. Had he made the right choices, he'd still be alive. End of story.
State law was part of what happened with Brooks. Not to mention this man had a history of violent offenses, including against children, and was in jail for those felonies previously. A letter to the editor of the LA Times, summed it up well: “To suggest that the Atlanta police officers should have let Rayshard Brooks sleep it off or called his family to drive him home after he failed a sobriety test in a parking lot is completely ridiculous. You are overlooking the fact that he allegedly drove drunk in the first place, and he could have killed people. There are about 10,000 people killed by drunk drivers in the United States each year. Race should not play a role in determining the consequences of these actions.”
His prior record doesn't justify shooting him twice in the back when he took off running. The cop in this instance is being charged with felony murder. This case has nothing to do with his DUI infraction either. It's how police are unjustly killing citizens.
@@logike77 His prior record doesn't justify the shooting, it justifies the counter argument to "why not call his family" and "just let him sleep it off, he wasn't hurting anybody". Also, say what you want about the fact he was running away, he tried to use the stolen taser. "It was out of charges" and "it's non-lethal" are not valid counter arguments. It's easy to count charges from camera footage, try counting it in the middle of the road in what amounts to a brawl while there are plenty of things going on. Or here is another option to avoid this all together, don't run from cops. What justified him running? Did he think if he just touched some magical zone the cops would say "ah shucks, he got away again, oh well guess he's free"? It's lunacy to think that he had zero responsibility. To address the other problem, the DA involved can't even decide a taser is lethal force or not so saying "it's non-lethal" is beyond silly. Charging somebody with something doesn't mean they're guilty and only a corrupt judge would find the officers involved anything but innocent.
Yeah, I do think it still ages well. Not to say every notion is correct, and we shouldnt expect it to be. However, it is still very refreshing to hear valid articulated points and then a genuine discussion. Rarely happens anymore imo.
@@julianfischer1485 I would drop a time but that would give the option to not watch this entire episode. The last 20 minutes are the most essential to what Bret brought to the table.
I think it's not a failure of reason, because in order for reason to fail it would have to be employed in one way or another. Majority of people arent inclined to think at all, so reason/logic never even gets a chance todau
Honestly, this is all about power and who has it. Not taking this into account gives false judgment. So, not considering this factor causes us to think that this is a lack of reason, but actually it is completely reasonable when considering that it is about power. Kind of like Nancy and her golf tour clap. She had the power and she knew it, we didn't.
Hey joe. Your never going to see this, but your podcast is the only thing that gets me through work and when I’m alone at my house. Your very wise and I take every thing you say in. Your voice has become a symbol of realization for me
Not to wise on brooks though. Getting so drunk that you pass out while driving isn't a victimless crime. It's not like smoking weed in ur house. His opinion would absolutely change if a drunk driver drives over his daughter.
Your podcast is what has become because you are so open to hear what someone has to say. Your willingness to discuss those topics that no one else is willing to dive into. Love the show.
If a white man went full psycho on two nice police pfficers and took them to the ground, punched one in the face, stole his weapon, and fired it at him.... noone would bat an eye. Seems privileged to me. Also the cop that didnt even shoot rayshard is getting charged with aggravated assault? The cops were gentle with rayshard. Thats why rayshard was able to hurt them and steal there weapon and get away. They didnt assault him at all, in fact if they wanted to they couldve beat tf out of him. A 2v1 is not winnable in a situation like that.
Jesus Joe, the last 20 minutes scared the shit out of me. How smart is this guy anyway? It takes an incredible intellect to see such minutiae so outside of a certain, accepted, pathway for discovery.
Yeah it rings very true that something like this could happen. I work in the scientific industry and it’s not what people imagine- labs are doing certain tasks that have been assigned to them , with established tools (ie. mice as model organisms) , they are not checking those tools, that’s not the job... there is no bandwidth. Animals for testing are strictly controlled and there are limited approved suppliers, species, etc.
Money is power. Follow it and you will find the evil that lurks in the shadows. Corruption is the leading cause of all problems we experience, and that is the desire for more wealth, for more power. Deception is the favorite tool to obtain more of it. The FDA is by far one of the most corrupt. The crappy food we consume, the food pyramid that is way wrong makes us sick. The reaction to this manufactured problem is to find medical help, to find drugs to only mask the problem but not fix it. To mask this problem costs $, to fix it costs way more, but to teach people other ways to prevent and treat illness is to lose money. I mean peanut allergies didn't just pop up out of the blue!!! How much does that EpiPen cost? My grandmother whose appendix ruptured and caused gangrene should have killed her. No, she was kept alive and put on so many drugs for 7 years. Her quality of life went from 10 to 0 and it tormented her for 7 whole years. The lovely smiling mother and grandmother my family adored had turned into something vile from the medication she was prescribed, something that overshadowed her true loving nature. She was unrecognizable. She had been turned into some sort of cattle drug companys and insurance companys made wealth off of. I completely and disdainfully condemn the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry, and I passionately refuse to seek medical help. I resort to holistic means of preservation and restoration.
Coffee Sploosh I am sorry for what you went through. But please be careful. There are many, many “snake oils” touted as holistic cures that do not work and are also just out there to separate consumers from their hard earned money. There is a middle ground.
The answer is - Bret is extraordinarily intelligent, however, it is worth nothing that he is also equipped with the best tools a person could have, and he is a master at wielding those tools. I am talking about the tools of science. Evolutionary Biology in particular is probably the very best proving ground for understanding of many things, including human sociopolitical issues.
I am so digging this conversation...this needs to be viewed, listened to in a really diverse multitude of different cultural population.This is a winning proposition.
I'm with you and I've been promoting alternative/new parties to end the duopoly for at least 10 years...but...and being as completely real and unbiased as I Can, I really see leftist democrats and their MSM collusion allies as the biggest danger we've seen in a long time. I'm not a huge Trump guy but I want him to succeed cuz he's our president and I want our country to do well. But leftists/msm/social media are actively conspiring to take him down and hurt the country. If they would just work to make things better I can't imagine how good things could be cuz things were very good before covid...but these crazies are just out out of their minds...i don't know how else to say it. I've just never seen a group try to hurt the people like they do
@@admonishedAlligator he didn't get shot for drunk driving. Joe talks about how polite he was but failed to mention that the 2 police officers were also very polite and respectful to him. Up until he started beating the shit out of them, stole their weapon and fired it at them.
Over 90% of psychological research is not about addressing the human condition but rather towards effective mind control. The object is usually to control consumer decision making.
you have, just make 20 X's and draw a dick on the voting sheet, your vote counts but its invalid.. actually I don't know if thats possible or if it accomplishes anything in the US with its 2 party system.
@@michaeld8555. Maybe that's what op ment. Either way, i definitely agree with you, but i can't say I've listened to him enough to be able to argue one way or the other.
@@michaeld8555 I listened to Sowell for an hour the other day, arguing something not much different from that. That the minimum wage removed jobs from these communities and the welfare state caused fatherless homes. This leaves young black men with no fathers and no jobs, then they get up to no good.
"Echos of slavery" bro? I grew up in predominantly black nieghborhoods, in Baltimore Md, I literally went through the same life as the black Americans around me. Same poverty that effected them effected me, and still does today. I have a job I got when I was 19 and discipline myself to stay there surviving paycheck to paycheck. Still struggle, still paycheck to paycheck. Slavery? Reperations? Come on Joe!
It wasn’t just that. He passed out drunk in the drive thru at Wendy’s stopping people behind him from ordering. Also was out on Parole so he KNEW he’d be going back to prison that’s why he ran. Also tazed that one cop and shot at him.
@@92MojoJojo You'd be surprised I think. In his most recent interviews (past year(?)), he seems totally on the ball. Unless they were merely old clips that were re-up'd.
We ended natural selection, and you just cannot do that without ruining everything. If you did that with any other animal species (especially a domesticated one) it would become garbage specimens very quickly.
@@ReekRendTest1 I used to think that but I'm not sure that's entirely true. Yes, anyone can procreate. NO, anyone can't just procreate with someone with sought after characteristics such as intelligence etc (and implied genetic heritage). There is still absolutely genetic selection going on, with more intelligent and successful people attracting better mates, and vice versa. We can see this play out in increasingly stratified western societies. Genes are not naturally selected against now, but certain phenotypic traits are still highly selected for/against, which determines which gene pool you are going to go into. I totally accept that this is not as severe and limiting as natural selection, but there is clearly something going on with humans. Also I really think we should be mindful of the next potential stage in human evolution, as laid out by Elon Musk and Neuralink - at some point in the near-ish future we are going to start to assimilate with our technology. This will transform humans to god-like capabilities in terms of processing and memory. At present, there is no single human who can know everything about every human specialism in tech and science. The world is just too complex now. 200 years ago, it was absolutely possible for 1 person to generalise across all specialisms, just about. But the next stage in human evolution will likely not be brought about by hungry predators, but by technology. If/when we merge with computer processors/memories, it will be possible for single humans to absorb all of the information across all tech/science specialties. At that time, analog humans of the previous 2 millenia will be looked at as cavemen. Basically what I'm saying is don't think that natural selection is the only force that can change the nature of humanity, because the future is unwritten.
Ben the intelligent are breeding less than everyone else. Who’s winning the genetic lottery now? Natural selection doesn’t care about individual characteristics, it cares about numbers. Not letting people fail evolutionarily is bad for the progress of the species. Not that progress is the end all be all goal, I suppose.
I live in Atlanta, that dude is one of the people in this town that drives around recklessly while shit hammered on Saturday night..... every weekend, especially since covid one of those scumbags wrecks into someone on I-85 and kills someone or swerves across 5 lanes at 110 mph and causes a wreck 10 miles long. Im over the stupid shit! Its gotten bad here and im tired of people making excuses for it! We need more police and stricter rules like El Salvador. If i grabbed a cops taser and tried to run off shooting him and was shot by the cops for it, my family would be embarrassed of me and wouldnt have cried like babies. I would have been a scar on my familys name.
Visiting this in hindsight, joe was absolutely wrong about gf. DC WAS sacrificed. The other guy that was in GF's car was his killer. Gave him the fentynal. Knee wasn't even on neck it was on back.
@@dionysusnow I’ve seen insanity by both sides last year. A liberal that drives around in his car alone with a mask on. A conservative who thinks Corona virus is myth.
30 people die everyday in the US due to impaired driving, and you can’t comprehend why the police even needed to respond? It’s not a victimless crime Joe.
Drunk driving is an issue, you're absolutely right. However to be thrown in jail and handcuffed over a mistake that can't be right? Drunks aren't criminals they need help. Now do I think they should be left off the hook? Absolutely not its a dangerous act that can lead people to be hurt hence the idea to fine them and let their fate be decided in court.
Hauser Hooch Joe was so impressed with how polite and peaceful the guy was while he was trying to fitness his way out of going to jail. Apparently, Joe doesn't realize everyone is polite and peaceful while they're trying to talk the cops out of arresting them.
@@TheBlackB0X He wasn't operating the vehicle, he was sleeping it off. Could have just had the heating on waiting till he sobered up. Legally speaking he was not operating the vehicle and had no reason to arrest him. Drunk driving is terrible but this wasn't it. Cops should have never taken it that far
This podcast happened over three years ago as I write this comment. Having since undergone the three years of Covid, Bret's remarks about masks and lockdowns seem positively quaint. (I only started listening to Bret's own podcast a few months ago.) But what really shocked me was the last few minutes when they were talking about how difficult it was to get anyone to pay attention to the mouse telomere problem. I've become so cynical recently that their bewilderment about why such important information might be suppressed seems incredibly naïve. Anything that would threaten the sanctity of vaccines, even an innocent joke meme on Facebook, has been ruthlessly censored and the perpetrators demonized and canceled. Covid has shown us the power of the pharmaceutical industry and associated NGOs and organizations like the WHO. Can you imagine the reaction to evidence that all the lab mice used to "test" these products possibly yielded incorrect results?
Again, I am late to this podcast but I am also more impressed with you. Thank you! I hope here is a way to find pod casts similar to this, not meaning, or wanting, to bypass the lighter ones.
It's the same problem people have been talking about for years now- the political system in the US has been bought off by corporations and neither political party actually represents the interests of the people, especially not the interests of the working class. The issue is not 'systemic racism'. The issue is systemic corruption. The US Government is no longer "of the people, by the people, for the people", that's the issue.
@@michaelk6818we can get rid of our corrupt government, but this doesn't mean toss our bill of rights out the window. Like hello. Tulsi was against the 2nd amendment and also supported Russia gate. Think man. Im all for rebuilding, but don't toss the constitution by supporting a women who wants to take away your right to defend yourself.
Fascinating to listen to Bret recently on Carlson versus three years ago. On this video, he is in the initial steps of being red-pilled. On Tucker, he is dramatically further along in the process. I am sure that the last few years outside of the university environment have been critical in his journey.
Other then the obvious abuse of power in the pass.. we see the obvious reason for worry when the ppl in power can at any time make us all slaves again.. like was said in this podcast we act like everything is ok and good but we see the trends.. the rich and powerful only care about themself, the less rich we r the more powerful they are.. you are 2 blind to see the boogeyman because it moves in the shadows until it attacks
😂 2:49:07 1979… My surgical nurse mother and her nurse friends are sitting around I’ll never forget this.😂 A gaggle of nurses discussing exactly the things that the professor is speaking on and it has come to fruition.😂
@@aidan5083 I think it should be more like "Not guilty of anything particular until proven guilty of that particular"... Innocent implies something different, though it has become the motto indeed. He is guilty of something, or a bunch of somethings, we just don't know exactly of what.
Sibby Eskie innocence is supposed to be the neutral state for all Americans until found guilty by a jury of their peers in a court of law. You are innocent, all of us, until you are guilty.
Dude, great call. He's such a riddle-talker. After each piece of riddle-speak, he tends to pause and look at his conversation partner as if to say, "Confused, right? Oh, you... Let me continue now to explain my amazing point." This reads as though I don't like Eric, but I do love him; just one of those idiosyncrasies.
Eric seems to have more sociopathic intellectual tendencies when speaking...almost as if he’s trying to confuse you even. One of his best qualities is thinking outside the box and coming up with unique ideas, which makes for a more entertaining listen but he can often become incoherent and absurd.
Full summary: 0:01 The Evergreen incident and Bret predicting social unrest 3:02 Bret talks about occupy movements and "Occupy 2.0" 3:48 Defunding the police 6:08 Joe´s thoughts on the Rayshard Brooks incident 7:53 Bret has been hit/beaten twice by cops 8:43 About Jocko´s recent appearance on the podcast (and his views on training cops) 12:00 Bret talks about the Clinton administration, Republicans, and the political (and social) US system (long discussion) 27:49 Bret explains "critical theory" and what it has morphed into 32:14 On academia being liberal 41:27 Talking about one of Bret´s best students, and her experience with being bullied by other students 54:50 Bret´s thoughts about Dave Chapelle 1:00:02 Bret on the George Floyd murder 1:10:15 Joe "I´m an expert on choking people" Rogan 1:14:10 Talking about the Eric Garner case 1:19:22 Bret on the black community in the US and arresting/taking men out of society 1:35:54 Bret´s plan to fix the political situation in the US 1:44:22 Discussing Joe Biden 1:50:03 On Trump (Bret: "He is a political genious") 2:06:46 Looking at videos that make fun of Trump (including "baby Trump") 2:10:22 Discussing covid-19 and conspiracy theories (Bret won´t dismiss the lab-conspiracy theory) 2:19:03 Bret´s thoughts on covid-19 and testing 2:20:30 On the efficacy of masks agains covid-19 2:22:00 Joe on hunting and axis deer 2:26:01 Discussion about covid-19 continues, including bats and China 2:40:03 On aging (and different research groups competing against each other) 2:58:30 Bret clears up a comment that Eric (his brother) made about him on the JRE podcast. (Note: I do summaries for all the JRE episodes. If you subscribe, you´re more likely to see my summaries in the comment section^^)
Talking about America. And in America poor white folks get tossed in jail and so do pour blacks at a disproportionate number to rich folks. Is that hard to see?
@@jessicalawrence6967 Correlation doesn't necessarily equal Causation, but it sure does make ya wonder. If by those things, you mean the de-valuing of the family unit and the Nuclear Family generally, then I would agree. A Nuclear family is of the utmost importance, because in fatherless households, the statistics about how much more likely you are to do drugs, join a gang, end up in prison, live off the state, and/or die, is up by multiple 100s of percentages.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 This correlation has been proven to be causation by numerous sociological studies from the early 70's up to now. Unfortunately, now, most of the social sciences have been hijacked by post modern idiots that don't believe in statistical analysis nor even objective reality.
Definitely. Brett says science will help families out the most. But I disagree, having a loving father and loving mother help infinitely more. We need less broken families which lead to anger, hate, violence and despair. People who are loved, feel that love and give love are not violent and hateful.
Really Joe? You asked why were the police called for a drunk driver passed out in a running car in the drive through of a restaurant? If he had been walking in the sidewalk while intoxicated I would agree with you but not driving.
Were also suppose to forget that he just got out of jail for beating his kids. Thats why he didn't want to get arrested. It would have violated his parole.
Problem is the stupid law with DUI. Take his license and that’s it. Drunk driving should be fined and the licence taken away for a year! He shouldn’t end up in cuffs and of course not dead!
I’m reading the comments and all I see are comments on the drunk guy in Atlanta when the BIGGEST issue on this podcast was the issue of the scientists not being able to tackle a huge statistical flaw in their research.
Totally agree, I came down to the comment seccion to see what ppl think about that subject...and almost no one is interested about that extremely important matter...
Discovering Bret Weinsten and the Darkhorse podcast was one of the few things that delivered common sense and hope to me during the worst of the pandemic lock downs.
To joe's point, the deterrent would be having to go to court and deal with the ticket. In practice, I don't think the ticket would amount to a small debt. It would most likely be a huge fine. i.e the deterrent.
@SPQR - yeah we arrest them, you're not supposed to shoot them in the back while running away. Running away? Let them! Call back up, check your mate that is on the ground, get in your car and follow the guy (who was on foot). There was LITERALLY dozens of ways to deal with this guy rather than shooting him.
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Also watch Bret's channel. It always amuses me how nearly 4 million people watch this in a few days, but he gets less than 100k people on his own videos. Same with a lot of other guests on Joe's show. For some reason, people are happy to watch them talking to Joe, but have no interest in them talking on their own podcasts to other intelligent people.
@@thealexanderbond To many people to follow, the amount of knowledge that can be consumed and discussed is endless - that's why Joe is a good podcast, he brings people that have real knowledge in their own field.
@@Keilnoth Again, the act of drunk driving KILLS PEOPLE. If the cost of driving drunk was an uber ride and a ticket, more people would do it and you know it. The guy resisted arrest, stole a taser, then fired that taser at the officer. THATS what got him killed. Not simply driving drunk. Blaming the law or the officers in this case is absolutely ludicrous.
@@chrstop87 Well if they resist, act violently, steal a taser then you use proportional force to control them. I am fine with that, I am not arguing on that point. If you have a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08%, and it's your first, you don't need to go to jail, you didn't kill anyone, but you need to have a revocation of license and a huge fine that will give you some time to think about it. If you are a recidivist then you are banned forever from the road and might go to jail. That's what we have in most countries in Europe, it's called proportionality and on the side you can have prevention as to educate people.
@@Keilnoth If I shoot a gun into a crowd and miss every shot, should I go to jail? I didn't kill anyone. Would a ticket suffice? Of course not, because the act itself that I could have hurt or killed someone is what matters. I've clearly demonstrated I'm a danger to others and being sent to jail is the proper punishment. Rayshard Brooks BAC was not 0.08%, it was 0.108. Also, this was not his first DUI, and he was on probation, and he had a history of violating his probation. I lived in Europe for 4 years. I can't begin to explain the difference in culture in how we each view driving drunk. Europeans take it much more seriously than Americans do. And I think that's something that can be attributed to culture, not the laws. Americans get caught all the time driving with a suspended license because of multiple DUIs. It's disgraceful, and something I wish we as a country took more seriously.
@@chrstop87 Then we arrest everyone with a car and with a gun. What about the people who drive and text? Because DUI is only 1/3 of all the fatalities. Reckless driving is probably the rest. That's 20k lives, and 33k death by gun shot now that you mention it, are you going to ignore them? Doing so you put 5,000,000 people in jail every year just so that you will feel safer. There is no end to that except by solving root problems, like access to a better and cheaper education, prevention, and a better life overall, reduction of alcoholism in general and stop selling guns while you are at it.
Been following Darkhorse for 2 1/2 years when Bret and Heather were discussing which vaccines they might consider. Just saw this. Wow. Just wow. Kudos to JR and BW
falls under the category of substance issues which is a category people are saing needs a different response- I say send a team for substance issues. I say a team of three: one cop with gun, one cop without a gun that is trained in martial arts, and one psychiatrist/medical person. All are good and trained in deescalation. the work together. the guy without the gun is key cause he (sometimes she) can control the situation physically cause they aren't worried about their non existent gun from being taken. medical person will do most of the interaction most of the time probably. other two people are support. dd is serious. i don't know the penalties, but it should probably be viewed as attempted manslaughter in a sense.
Punch a cop get shot. Cops job isn’t to take blows to the head in the hopes they stay conscious and the attacker doesn’t take their gun. What is this 4th grade? God people are stupid
@@rockydelforge999 Thats a great idea! We all need to make 10% more with overtime or another job though. Treating situations like this in that way is only going to cost us 110% in taxes. Maybe just put all 3 on each street corner and free healthcare and free college and expand welfare and, and, and.......
You have to arrest drunk drivers. They kill people. This guy had not pulled over to rest. He passed out in a drive threw with his car running. It's not like I am some MADD activist. I got a DUI when I was 20. I deserved it and I am lucky to not have killed somebody.
Major problem with policing is the funding and the quotas that go along with it. It promotes cops escalating situations in order to provide arrest numbers to acquire said police funding. Quotas have to go.
When I was in high school, some friends and I were driving back home on a two lane road when the car in front of us disappeared in a cloud of dust. It was hit by an oncoming car and rammed off the road. The driver stumbled out drunk. I ran up to the car and this girl (I believe she was 19 IIRC) had the steering wheel pressed to her chest. They had to use the jaws of life to get her out. Her family told us later that she mad multiple broken bones, including ribs and her legs. All I could do was hold her hand and wait for the police to arrive because we couldn't get her out of the car. I'll never accept the premise that drunk driving is not dangerous. It's against the law, and it's bullshit.
private parts I think a lot of the people who are arguing on behalf of the driver are somehow missing the fact he drove from the bar to the Wendy’s drive thru, where he passed out. I see a lot of people talking about it as though he was just sitting in the parking lot minding his own business when the police showed up, without realizing, or perhaps without admitting, he was drunk driving prior to the encounter and then was blocking the drive thru, which is why police were called.
@@fatherplant73 this case not included because he wasn't driving: So if you're parents, siblings, kids were killed by a drunk driver WHO MADE A CHOICE TO DRIVE DRUNK, you don't believe they should pay with their life? This is strictly curiosity.
@@fatherplant73 At the very least Joe downplayed the severity of this guy driving drunk. He referred to him as "just drunk". There is a reason there is a stiff penalty for driving drunk. What I don't see is anyone suggesting that because he was drunk, he deserved to die. Up until this guy began fighting the police and attempted to shoot them with a taser (classified as a deadly weapon in GA), there was no reason to believe he was going to be shot. None of the evidence presented at this point even suggests that he was shot "because he was drunk".
he completely ignored any action on the part of mr.brooks, he said drunk driving is "peaceful" and nothing "went wrong" until "they told him he was under arrest" what disingenuous jackass
You know this reminds me when he had Jack Dorcy on the 1st time and Joe was rightly dragged for it. The 2nd time its Tim Pool asking the hard questions and actually interviewing Jack not Joe. Joe barely says anything in that video. Just shows Joe isn't the "real" person he claims to be.
Not only that .. but nobody .. I mean nobody .. would have said that cops should let a white DUI suspect go home or order him an Uber. We all have to follow the same laws and suffer the same repercussions when we don't. The guy was on probation for child abuse. He had no business driving drunk and he should have been a man about it after being caught. With his selfish behavior he ruined the lives of two cops and caused more violence. I have no sympathy for Raychard.
The Garner incident took place a few miles from my house.. I’m not saying he deserved to die but if u knew the full story.. the store owner that sold cigarettes where Eric operated in front of was calling the cops on him “every day”.. they knew him when they pulled up and it’s why he said “not today” .. go watch that video again closely to where the officer had his arm. He went into cardiac arrest
Drunk driving makes you kill people, thousands of avoidable deaths all around the world every year result from that. In most European countries you'll get banned from driving if ever caught drunk, and for good reason, but at least it's scientific - we use alcohol meters, not some silly 'walk the line' methods.
@@doommaker47 We also use breathalyzer tests here in the states, blood test too to further prove your level of intoxication if it's just obscenely high. They usually start with the whole Walk the Line, touch your nose, say your ABC's backwards and the eye stigma test to give them further proof of your physical incapacitation. If they refuse to do the breathalyzer test in field, and they failed all the physical tests, the officer can transport them back the station and get a blood draw done.
it really annoyed me how Joe just REFUSED to entertain the idea that the footage isnt the whole story, purely detracting from the bigger point that, i beleive Scott Adams put it 'if you see a video, its fake'. All you have to do is look at some of Lefty twitters videos, they crop out context of certain events. We have to ask questions like 'why is the camera filming in this spot? who is behind the camera and whats their intention? are there actors or lies being done and said? what happened before and after the video stopped?' the point is the video is inherently a limited view on something, him just detracting by thinking what he saw was all he needs to know is ridiculous. Floyd was saying he couldnt breathe before being on the ground, he resisted arrest, how do we know he wasnt lying in order to try to get a window of opertunity to fight or escape? maybe thats why they didnt beleive him saying he couldnt breathe when on the floor... These things are invaluable to deciding EXACTLY what happened. 1st and 3rd degree murder are entirely different charges, overcharging lets him off, but in any case, we need to be ACCURATE if the insitutuion of the courts is to mean anything
I believe anyone in law enforcement should have to spend 60 days incarcerated. It would make a drastic difference in the amount of arrest and abuse if authority to place someone under arrest
This is Bar none the best I’ve heard what I want to say or feel explained. Thank you sir!!! 👊🏼 I love all of you all my brothers and sisters. I put myself in other’s shoes often. ❤
Not 100% wrong . You don’t know history ... if you did know history , I wouldn’t have to message to remind you of your historical ignorance . But it’s too late for people like you anyway , so I’m wasting my time with reaching out to you ✌️
"Talking reasonably and super civil" yet he grabs their taser... nice brush over from joe. They shouldn't have shot him but fmd, you can't sit there acting like the guy was nice as pie
My family still living in Germany don't like Trump but they're realizing they agree with him about a lot. They cannot understand what happened to the Democratic Party? The Berlin Wall DDR just came down in 1989 but American DEMOCRATS are pushing socialism or the beginnings of what always becomes socialism! That post modernism for you! Failures of the past can be explained by intersectionality of postmodernism as it rejects the entire idea of free debate, science, or TRUTH INDEPENDENT OF WHITE MALE POWER.
I haven't heard about shutdown STEM. So if anyone had doubts about BLM's goal knowing that it was started by Marxist this is definite proof. They want to get rid of democracy and create a socialist state. They need to weaken our government and economy to do so and a good way to do that is shutdown STEM. Which country would benefit extensively from US technological destruction? That would be China. There needs to be an investigation of links between China, BLM and Antifa. BLM and Antifa are the useful idiots that will get pushed aside once the government is torn down and the elitist globalist move in with socialist rule. Democrats are fellow travelers enabling this movement.
Do you notice how that reasoning only works very narrowly? For example the critical theory folks could make that exact same claim about STEM. That is their proof that it is systematically racist. I like Brett a lot but this is an example of left-think that hasn’t been properly thought through. A nice sound bite but needs a lot of nuance to be meaningful.
i dont know what video Joe saw, but I watched the entire trial.. I didn't see George get choked out.. and If you can yell "you can't breathe" let me tell you, you can breathe.. He WAS yelling it while he was in the car, and he also took more than 3 times the Lethal dose of fet. AND he had a prior arrest where he indigested drugs which prompted them to take him to the hospital where he avoided Jail.. and while the knee was on the back of his "upper back", George was able to lift his upper body and turn his head in opposite directions to continue yelling he cant breathe.. there was no way this big man was choked out. there was no gasping for air, no gagging, no nothing that indicated he wasn't allowed air to the lungs.. the method used was also taught by the police. it was listen in the doctron of his training. this video was LOOOOONG.. I'm sorry but this was rediculous. and to be charged with murder?! worste case it would have been an accident and MURDER is not a charge that can be convicted without a reasonable doubt... how can you prove intent to kill when performing a move instilled in the training of the department? HOW? BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT? BULL F***ING S*** period.
It was agony for me. I'm taking the siding off my house and yelling at Joe to forget what he knows and let Brett make his point. The first 1:20:00 has been like this. I couldn't take it anymore and gave in. 😔
@@earshoes3282 And due process was all that Weinstein was defending in the face of mob rule. He wasn't saying "we don't know..." He even says he witnessed a tremendous miscarriage of justice captured on video and that he doesn't believe the officer was innocent of a crime, but that what is going to excuse the officer of murder in particular, if anything, is police protocol. Therefore, he wasn't disputing most of Joe's reasoning. They were just talking past each other at times.
The conversation with Jocko was a lot more solution oriented and addressed one of the most important issues in high tension moments, the current inability of many officers to deescalate the situation.
So, I guess Joe is the judge, jury and executioner? Joe 'string him up' Rogan? I guess Joe has spoken with the coroner personally? Interviewed doctors? Investigated actual prior conversations between the two? Bret's point: Due Process will lead to an unknown. Just ask O.J.
I graduated Evergreen the year before the uprising: speaking at our graduation was an unknown black female guest who insisted strongly that she was going to help ‘take back the school’ and we were sitting in the rain, like ‘lady we just want to get through this’
@Michael Cera I hear yah. Though to be fair, even medicine will be taken over by AI. Honestly, I would trust a computer that has access to medical databases and journals, and has seen millions of diagnostic images, over a human to diagnose me.
Did you see the video? The officer shot him after he missed with the taser.. the taser only had 1 shot.. he shot him out of anger to punish Mr. Brooks for running.. I am sorry bro that pig should fry...
I like Bret but he takes out of the equation personal responsibility. I grew up in a poor area a 1 bedroom apartment with 7 people. My public school was poorly funded. My parents were to self involved with each other and their own cycle that I didn’t get the same kind of up bringing as a typical family. To top it off I am disabled . And until I was 23 I was basically doing nothing with my life held on to how unfair the system was held on to the anger. Until one day I looked around and realized I was a mouse on a wheel and so were my family and the reason they couldn’t see it was because they still held on to their own pain too. The minute I realized that is when my life changed . I moved 1000 miles across the country got into school and bought a house 2 years later all while still in school full time working and only making 18k a year. Was it hard? Yes . Did I have to slave away and not spend any money on anything and barely eat to accomplish my goals? Yes. But was it impossible? No. My point is that the current corruption in the system only works if people THINK they can’t get ahead because that’s ultimately the only thing stopping them and if they ever realized that the elites would no longer be able to use that anger as a form of control because there is more of us then there are of them. I’m not saying it’s easy to get out of that life or leave your family but in the end it comes down to how bad you want it and how badly you don’t want to end up like everyone around you and the first step is self reflection and personal responsibility. Like Morgan free man once l said there are busses leaving every single day
I agree with you 100% about personal responsibility, except the people who need to take responsibility don't see that. I've spent years volunteering with youth in my community. I can to you that for most of them, life is just something that happens to them. They don't understand the extent that they have control over it. There are systematic changes that still need to occur within some communities so that it's not just one or two people breaking out, but many people breaking out. It's obvious that many people are capable of breaking the cycle, the question is why don't they and can we change that?
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing that. I hope that you consider mentoring young people at some point in your life. I think that with your background, they'd really listen to you.
@@annd3272 he was referring to well before Trump when Obama was president and universities were pushing woke shit, maybe he did speak out against Obama. But clearly people that voted for Trump over Hillary especially those that voted for Obama before that.
How Joe hasn’t had Whitney Webb in the same room as him is insane to me (despite Whitney probably not wanting to sit down w/ Joe). I’m curious if she’s been propositioned by Joe’s team.
@omnivore gains not at all. Joe is speaking out of emotions which are never the way to go. Especially when it comes to legal action. Bret is looking at the situation objectively and from a logical standpoint. Joe and others who share his opinion just want to lynch someone and they don't care about the details.
Ever since MADD (mom against drunk driving) lobbied the government in the 1980s people caught DUI are arrested and heavily fined. The fact that Joe is saying the guy shouldn't have been arrested is a suggestion that we should fundamentally change how cops treat various crimes. I can only imagine how drunk driving will increase if the new rule is "drive them home"; this will dramatically increase the rates of drunk driving. This why MADD lobbied to begin with, cops were too lenient on drunk drivers and people were being killed because of it.
This guy also had cruelty to children on his record and was on probation. I don’t think it’s fair for joe to say he’s just a fine person who fucked up once and got drunk
@@slippythefrog Lol I love how people like this literally hear the exact opposite of what a person is saying. Bret: "We need to not make assumptions and use the scientific process to find Truth." RU-vid idiots: OMG HE JUST ASSUMES HE'S CORRECT AND SO SMART
@@christophert8419 "talking points" that's cause they were early to the trend of neo Marxism in academia and set forth the intellectual arguments to thwart it. Their arguments still hold up
I have come across this episode later but listening to the discussion around the presidential system opened my eyes to a benefit of the UK system has, we elect a party not a person and in principle agree with a manifesto the elected party, regardless of the current leader, is meant to adhere too. For some reason beyond my comprehension, we insist on re-electing parties who consistently reverse manifesto promises while derailing the policies of the opposition. It seems politics on both sides of the Atlantic has been a mess for longer than I thought.
The talk about telomeres totally shocked me, has this been become a precaution in laboratories all over the world, have mice with long telomeres been done away with?
I don’t believe so. But regardless- the vast majority of everything we do with mice doesn’t translate to humans anyway. We just have to because it’s the best tool we have- but in reality it’s a pretty shitty tool.
@@RejectOneWorldGov ya. For sure. But what does that truly mean? Mice models fail the vast majority of the time when predicting human outcomes. It’s just they fail drastically less than if we experimented in most anything else. (Lol monkeys would be better!)
