Matt Walsh is a political commentator, author, filmmaker, and host of "The Matt Walsh Podcast." Stream his new documentary "What is a Woman?" at www.dailywire.com. www.dailywire.com/author/matt-walsh
My Psychiatrist said that she went form ZERO cases where kids thought they were meant to be the opposite sex to 8/10 children she sees. We are putting this in our kids heads. These are things that should be dealt with organically
Strange thing, Jessica - I am a white South African, and honestly the only places here where this is becoming prevalent, is in Liberal white communities. Most black people would think you are crazy if you mention such a thing. It is interesting how Africans are liberal/leftist when it comes to economics, but extremely conservative on topics such as family.
It’s sick. Our kids are being brainwashed by a communist party in the US. I live in ND which is super red and I also live out in the boonies and there’s a kid in our children’s small school that claims to be “trans.” This nonsense has spread everywhere. I don’t care what anyone does as an adult but, I draw a line at kids and I cannot believe we are not all in agreement on this.
Becky Weiss did a great video on IG where she says if she was a few years younger she might have gotten sucked into the trans ideology . She’s always been a tomboy and if someone had said to her ‘you’re really a boy’ at a vulnerable time in her development , she might have believed it. It’s so unfortunate that young girls are now questioning their gender just because they don’t fit into the stereotype of Barbie loving girls.
Very interesting commentary on marriage. Thanks Joe for having the courage to host these type of discussions. Props to Matt for being able to so clearly explain his position.
They seem to have a disagreement on what the fundamental purpose of marriage is. Joe seems to think it's about individual happiness and matt seems to think it's about the way individual relationships and society interact to make a stable environment to raise kids. Both are right in their own sense
You mean when Matt Walsh pulled a random number out of his ass and Jamie had to correct millions down to a few thousand? If you are that far off with basic facts, you have zero business being anywhere close to this conversation. What a fucking dunce.
@jasonpopielarczyk7511 did you love when Matt thought that millions had been on therapy when it was thousands? He did a documentary and was off by many orders of magnitude. You failed your sanity check.
@@TheFloridaBro BRO (my b) i dont think the average joe checks the numbers, why do u think people say shit with so much confidence lmao. they just hope they are right.
Obama Identifies as a black man even though he is half white. Who says you cannot self identify your race? Rachel Dolezal got beef for it and she had to be cancelled
I love how intelligent and pragmatic MEN speak with eachother. There is a certain type of respect and accountability that makes the conversations blossom and become very contemplative. Each participant is evolving mentaly right in front of your eyes
@@nik07nik Yes they were. Before the Spotify deal. Maybe not this specific one, and there are several that were done while Joe was only really on Spotify but all you could usually find on RU-vid were things on the clips channel. It is nice to see Joe's podcasts back on RU-vid.
@@mynamejeff4883This one was originally on RU-vid. I've reached a point at hour and a 1/2 in realizing I heard this before and I can't believe I stumbled upon your conversation here By the way, I just googled it a little while ago and yes, this was from 2022.
Official Rogan quote “people shouldn’t be expected to stay married for life” lol Joe, that’s what he’s talking about.. Marriage doesn’t matter anymore, he’s explaining why that’s happened.. And yea, if you make a contracted commitment to a marriage, it should be hard to get out of..
It used to be hard to get out of as recently as the 50s and 60s. You were shunned by your close society. It caused misery for everyone involved - those who stayed in loveless cohabitation, kids growing up with parents who hate each other or live in fear of their parent, and those who were ostracised by their church and village/society. We changed divorce laws for the better
Gay marriage has only been legal in the US for less than 20 years so explain the increasing divorce rate and other things they discussed before it was legalized. Marriage may not mean as much as it used to but I highly doubt gay marriage caused as much of that problem as Matt is saying. Realistically it’s the lack of thought before actually getting married and then the easiness of modern day divorce.
I left this on when i ran to the store and now my cat is a conservative and has been telling me the benefits of converting to Christianity for the last hour.
For anyone wondering why this got uploaded now? this is an old episode? Etc. They are uploading the great majority of the back-catalog on RU-vid again. Prob has to do with signing the new Spotify deal Joe did several months ago.
The definition of "marriage" that Joe proposes here is actually the definition of "Civil Union." The two are not interchangeable because they have different origins and purposes. Matt is 100% correct on this - even if he couldn't quite articulate it in this session. Marriage is the recognition of spiritual AND legal union - coupled with the expectation and opportunity to form a new family unit. A civil union is the recognition of two individuals who love eachother and want to dedicate themselves legally to that coupling. There is a REASON that gay people want "mariage" and not "civil union" - and that's the connotation that the term brings -- To set out on a journey of building a family together and becoming parents for the next generation is such a big deal to human beings (since time immemorial) that we have always gone out of the way to celebrate these unions in a big way. A civil union doesn't get the same treatment societally because it is, literally, just designed for the happiness of those involved. It brings with it no such glorification, because it's not a proclamation of one's willingness to further the species and/or participate in societal customs. It's just two people saying "this one's mine." The problem, as Matt tried to explain, is that modern society has completely lost touch with this fact - and is treating them interchangeably. The result is that marriage as an institution has been degraded of all of it's value and is treated identically to civil unions - The only noteable difference now is that mariage comes with a few extra legal benefits. More and more young people are so disillusioned / removed from greater society and no longer see the value of marriage. Young men especially, since signing those papers essentially gives the women absolute control over their lives - with the opportunity to ruin them entirely and walk away scot-free. When marriage is degraded to "just a legal document" that "says you love eachother," more and more young people are asking "well...why is that needed then? Why sign my life away unnecessarily?"
Noah Webster's 1884 dictionary defines marriage as "the act of uniting a man and woman for life; wedlock; the legal union of a man and woman for life." It emphasizes the legal and lifelong union between a man and woman.
I think Joe doesn’t really buy that the family unit is the basic building block for society to be good. Having a high quality society is not valued these days maybe because we have not experienced it recently.
The family is the fundamental building block of the society. Society is the larger family. If the society is not a single family, it is low-quality. A fractured society is a larger, fractured family. Families are a form of social embedding as old as evolution itself. Social embedding is a prerequisite for a high-quality society of any lifeform we are familiar with. Unfortunately, the enemies of all-human potentiation figured out a simple trick: convince children their parents are ignorant perpetually by embedding subtext in family-focused media (cartoons, children's edutainment films, holiday films, social dramas, etc.), by redirecting their interests away from the norm perpetually by funding novel socio-political constructs (feudalism, industrialism, communism, capitalism, techno-feudalism, etc.) The modes of governance are shifted generationally and intentionally to perpetuate the permanent disabling of families emerging from poverty or providing legitimate socio-economic instruction across generations. It is an old technique, as old as society itself, but the majority are too plugged in to the constructs to figure the totality of the system out.
Marriage has never been looked upon in any society throughout history as merely a construct of Man, it has always been seen as a creation of God and Nature and merely recognized as such by Man. This is so fundamental it defies any disagreement. It is because man and woman alone carry the procreative potential that marriage has been seen as the building block of society. It is a new thing to say now Marriage is a lifestyle choice based on individual feelings. A formal acknowledgement of a gay union might be a good thing, but it can never replace the purpose of Marriage for society. This is a fundamental change in the way society has been ordered since recorded time. We will, as Matt suggests, see in time what this change has yielded for society and our civilization.
The whole second half of this podcast really put on display how joe is only able to see reality through a hedonic lens.. from devorce, to the choìce of childless union, to people prefering same sex relations... everything he said was on wants and feels... total hedonism. Marriage is duty not choice. Sex for pleasure is an immoral selfish act. No one is born gay, some kids just never have their narcissism checked by a strong father and a loving mother in a proper marriage and so they come up with warped perceptions of sexuality and self to societies detriment.
Once it gets to that point though, the source of degradation will likely be skewed and/or ignored completely by the majority. Not trying to be a negative nelly, it's been a pattern of human history to twist said history for one's own personal gains
Conservatives were laughed at/derided for saying the legalization of gay marriage was the beginning of a slippery slope. And here we are. Once gay people achieved their goal, they had to figure out where to turn their attention and funds. They chose trans rights, although many gays are either unaware of that or furiously backpedaling away from that.
Its not that clear cut. The idea of marriage that we have today came in through christianity. Roman law, greek law, asian law, ancient egyptian law -- they were all different. Marriage in roman and greek terms had nothing to do with love. In fact, up until the middle-ages the very idea that you married for love was regarded as absurd. Your parents picked for you, often in a strategic way to join families and obtain wealth. So the idea of romantic or "love" based marriage is a relatively new notion. Christianity did not care about the love aspect either until the age of the chivalry. People really need to read history, including the darker aspects
@@CipherDiazindeed. That is the individual level it affects. The societal is less children. We are living that out heavily at this point. The west is well below replacement level at this point. The need in a society to at minimum keep replacement rate cannot be understated. This is why couples that marry and don’t have children actually do hurt other people. The economy suffers, the social programs become more burdened, the next generation of workers disappear and on and on. Then amplify those problems even further by saying anyone can get married and it doesn’t matter at all. The two same sex cannot naturally have children and that won’t help. Then if they do decide they want children they will have to use surrogacy or something. In this method they are intentionally depriving the child of either the actual mother or father. In some cases both. (This is especially egregious as a child has a right to be raised by their biological mother and father. Does that always play out, unfortunately not. In cases where the parents did something to lose those rights for the safety of the child or something. However as a society we shouldn’t start with that.) And that is all to fulfill their desire to have kids. A good thing in it itself but done in the most selfish way possible. Certainly marriage as it has historically been defined is better for everyone it impacts.
I think joe is speaking about individual people. Matt is speaking for the society as a whole. Individuals are allow to not have children. But for society not having children is a detriment to society.
On marriage I don't get why Joe keeps going back to "well it's their choice." Matt's whole point is "it's not good for society." There are a whole lot of personal choices that everyone can make which will lead society to absolute ruin, and the vast majority of them would not effect you personally in the immediate.
Because it’s their choice. You have no actual proof that is bad for society. Most marriages could be argued as bad for society. So should the government evaluate each and every single potential marriage to see whether we will be harmful and be the ones to decide whether it can happen? Why do you want more government oversight and tyranny?
That's the beauty of your personal political beliefs. I"m a centrist, libertarian but right leaning libertarian and while I think it's wrong to teach this gendered confusion to children, if you are an adult in a same sex relationship, and want to get married, then you should be able to get married. I"m all for people being treated respectfully and equally unless they give me, or society as a whole a reason not to treat them respectfully or equally.
@@crunchywashere3513 No, I don't always agree with him. But, he is very serious about his convictions and for the most part they are based on sound reason and data. Clown is the last descriptor you could append to such a person.
@@crunchywashere3513yes, when I think of clown I think calm, rational person with consistent values who can articulate them well in an even tone of voice
Quite interestingly EVERYTHING Joe Rogan said to defend homosexuality is what Trans advocates use to defend transgenderism. It’s quite remarkable that each generation is swept up by something new with the EXACT SAME SENTIMENT, P3dophilia 🔜
@@TommyGunz327 is not Catholic yet but I did include him in my Rosary Prayer today with Father Rocky on Relevant Radio❤️🙏 I am asking Our Lady’s Intercession for his conversion. He is a good hearted man and seems just on the edge of realizing that he has a desire for a Faith Life. God changes hearts…I WAS a liberal and in my conversion to Catholicism I truly understand the disorder a mysogyny underneath homosexuality (I was bisexual and through conversion as well as Jungian type work I totally have been healed of same sex attraction)…see Mario Bergner’s book “Setting Love in Order” and Leanne Paynes book “The Broken Image”. Gay men were either molested/ or absent father/ overbearing mother…there is always a deep family of origin issue or molestation (even with Lesbians). In Lesbians there is some mother hunger absence of maternal love absence of father too.
@@johnv6806 I understand the principle, but there is more of a social element to how people choose to present themselves. There is such thing as a biological woman, and there is such thing as a trans woman. Trans species might not be too far behind, depending on how technology/biological sciences advance.
Sadly, the trans social contagion consumed our niece, with the help of my wife’s sister. They moved across the country to get away from family who disagreed with what she did. She was a lovely young lady. Unfortunately, there are other family members who were feeding into this insanity. It’s all very sad.
I didn't know only Christians knew that men have penises and women have vaginas. I thought atheists, Hindus, Muslims, Sheiks, etc could comprehend that. Actually, every one in the world except for those in the "developed nations" clearly know what a man and a woman are. 😢@@crunchywashere3513
Statute of limitations for medical malpractice in most states is 2 years. The high being 5 years. If the statute of limitations was raised. Especially for minors so they have a solid decade after they turn 18… and absolutely NO doctors would do hormones, puberty blockers, or surgery on minors.
The problem is that it isn't "malpractice" to do a transition surgery or medications. These are procedures that are fully legal for the doctor to do, and as long as the end results are technically correct, then it isn't "malpractice." If the puberty blockers blocked puberty exactly as intended, if the surgery went as expected and was performed correctly, then it isn't "malpractice." From a legal standpoint, that is. From a moral standpoint, it is evil, ritual mutilation in the name of Satan, and should absolutely be stopped, not just in minors but in adults as well!! I said what I said. 🤨
@@ericsmith1508That is factually incorrect. When treating a patient you have to have to determine: the right patient, right medication/procedure, the right dose, the right time right route. This is typically used for medication administration but is true for any aspect of the medical system. Deviation from it does constitute malpractice. You can't suggest that A: a child can consent to any of this, or B: that a practitioner is not liable for their actions that have long term harm so long as they did their buchery well.
Matt exposing this issue absolutely helped me snap out of the Bay Area/LA liberal brainwashing. I came back to Conservatism thanks to this nonsense. God bless.
@@tippsish Well, if it was that simple, why would gay people exiat ? Let alone trans ans everything that is "abnormal" ? And the fact that they exist is fine by me, and not by Matt. Why ? Because of the Bible
I understand both sides. Matt is explaining the reason marriage exists while Joe is explaining why people want to marry. Both correct in their own way.
@@edjackson4389 No it is perfectly clear. It is just people outside of the religious context in which it should remain, don't believe the sacramental value of it. Have your civil unions, I have nothing against that, but to call them marriage... is pushing it.
Amazing podcast. I love how Joe and Matt were able to have a challenging yet respectful conversation about a topic where they clearly disagree on. Joe did an AMAZING job, he was completely rational and based. He is open minded and empathetic while also having common sense and rationality. That’s why he is able to agree with both conservatives and liberals depending on the subject at hand.
Joe gets hung up on that topic in an attempt to be compassionate. Someone like Matt Walsh or myself see marriage as exclusively a sacrament between one man and one woman. Someone may be attracted to or love another of the same sex, but no bond between them is a Holy Sacrament of Marriage.
No, this is purposeful, the current administration has weaponized the FBI and the DOJ to police and censor free speech - there was a senate hearing in which it was made evident that at one point there were not only ex FBI members working for Twitter, the FBI was spending a staggering amount of time in their offices. Why? It wasn’t for a field trip that’s for sure.
@user-bj1mx2ip1c lol who deleted my comment? Yall get your feelings hurt when people challenge your opinions? Let's try it nicer for your tummy. He can be a king all day, but it doesn't matter if he isn't alive anymore.
I have met people with children and people without children, good parents bad parents. As adults the ones who have not had children have just missed out on a life time of joy and when i meet someone who has not had a child they are spoiled and missing something. I feel those of us who have had children are blessed. Kids are a blessing from God! Most people regret not having children.
24:10 What gets me is the outright hatred of self. The touted line is that this movement is about embracing yourself, but in practice what we’ve seen is the utter objection to oneself to the point of lifelong pain & suffering. As if outward projection is a cure all for suffering that began inside. As if we as humans are not our ((entire)) organism, but just a culmination of ideas. It truly is madness and while I lean towards compassion, I refuse to enable this self hatred.
Saying you are 5 when you are 38 is less crazy than a man saying he is a woman. At least sometime he was 5 and knows what being 5 feels like. You can’t say you feel you are a woman’s because you like the color pink and fashion shows. I don’t understand women who are in favor of this. Doing this only serves to demean and diminish the real significance of being a woman to frivolous, material ideas.
We need more people speaking up like Mr Walsh. You should be proud of the work you’ve done sir and your family should be too. Keep fighting the good fight. God fearing, hard working, law abiding citizens are on your side. Period
The discussion about marriage was very good imo. It's so refreshing to see two opposing viewpoints have a civil discussion/debate about something. Regardless of your opinions on the topic it was nice to see Joe and Matt hash it out without anger.
The more sense that Matt makes, the deeper Joe has to spin some hypothetical that represents a tiny insignificant minority. This is the most obnoxiously bleeding heart Joe has ever been. I’m shocked he didn’t start crying.
Matt Walsh one of the most censored in YT, I had to look for this episode because I heard it was uploaded, otherwise I would have never known it was here.
I went into my local supermarket. I asked. "What is a shopping cart?" The other shoppers became triggered and started screaming at me. I had to leave. The shopping carts in the parking lot started chasing after me. I have been stalked by shopping carts ever since. Thanks, Matt Walsh.
Joe nailed Matt on the marriage subject, you can tell simply by how much Matt is stammering through that part of their conversation. I love that Joe can agree on one part of a discussion and then disagree with another part of a discussion he has with his guest in a fair and pragmatic manner. He doesn't follow a narrative, or "take sides".
I don’t agree with Walsh in all subjects, but he is a great man fighting for a great cause! He speaks for all the people who can’t for fear of losing one’s livelihood
Matt is pretty smart on most topics…except for saying fat people are gluttons and food can’t be addictive. I have seen too many RU-vid videos of people who lost weight once they gave up carbs.
Marriage, as an institution, was desecrated the moment we allowed divorce for anything other than abuse and adultery. Any subsequent debates have become convoluted.
It's crazy to see youtube doing gymnatics to keep a lot of people from seeing this video. Every other video is 400k+ in a day or 4. But this one has been out for almost 2 weeks and not even hitting 200k. The censorship is crazy😬
Matt didn’t do a great job on the marriage argument. I agree with him but think the piece he’s danced around that form his opinion is the Bible. I think there are two separate and fundamentally different definitions of marriage. One is legal and one is spiritual/Biblical. To mash the two up is possibly more theocratical. Again, I agree with Matt but he tried to dance around his religious views and I think you cannot in that particular argument.
@@claucemicro1080I agree. That’s exactly what he did but Joe was clearly talking legal union while he was riding this line of legal and spiritual union. You can’t argue the principles of the spiritual union in a conversation about a legal union. I agree with Matt. I believe marriage was authored by God but like many other things, men have hijacked and tried to redefine it. At this point there are two distinct definitions, one is owned by God and the other by man. You can’t ignore God’s definition as a believer. Joe could have dismissed Matt’s view based on religion but that’s all he could have done. He couldn’t have made it non-sensical. Joe would have been the one unable to argue…. Dismiss? Yes. Argue? No.
@mmckinney525 Yes, he did so because involving morality in the conversation ultimately brings a Christian to the Bible, whereas Rogan just doesn’t agree with the Bible. So Matt was trying to find a way to speak on rogans plain, which is always difficult when the answers to morality for a Christian is “dude, it’s the Bible.”
He dances around this because of that pesky idea of separation of church and state. Any argument that relies on the Bible has no place in political discussions.
@@samanthajardim there are many books that cover the subject, it's quite simple the way it works. Sort of like the elephant and the string, if you are familiar.
@@imjustadrummer I was being silly, Michael Knowles wrote a book about it called Speechless: Controlling Words Controlling Minds and he mentions it regularly on his show.
@@hansofaxalia I agree, I see a lot of hope especially if Trump gets elected with large Black support. What will be telling is how much protest there will be when it's official. If there is little to none that is a great sign. That means even young people are overall sick of the left.
This is why Joe is the king. They agree for 70% of the interview and disagree on 30% yet the conversation goes on. People get to listen and decide for themselves.
Great interview. Some talking points for Matt that may help him in the marriage debate: 1.Gay sex by majority of scientific consensus is not real sex due to no potential of procreative outcome regardless of the species' individual capability. 2. People can commit and love each other without a sexual nature and still have significant self-sacrificial love jsut as great if not greater than marital love. Ie(father to son, friend to friend, mother to daughter.) 3. The fine dividing line between love and procreation is "courting " or romantic expression to suggest a sexual desire/intent which requires that basic nature of (male and female) to initiate.
@@adamblackman6660 Yes, here i am. How on earth did you think that was worth posting? No one has ever accused you of being a thinker, that much is clear!
This is a fundamental in articulation of what is considered American Rights. The founding structure and intent never guaranteed ambiguous rights built on paradox.
25:50 Matt said "you'll lose your family." This is something I am experiencing at a slow motion speed. I called out an in-law for giving my wife a "pride" related item so she can show support (I said, "don't wear it around me or our kids), and now I am the bad husband, and being controlling. Meanwhile, we live like roommates, I am deprived of s*x, she uses it as stick. But she says she doesnt want to her body to me. I am just bewildered by just how dumb this, all of this, is.
I work in healthcare. Hospital setting. And as soon as I made my decision that men and women are physically and emotionally separate. I caught myself in a situation with my employer. They drummed up some bs and had me fired. Blackballed from working anywhere. It’s real. The hate and the acrimonious feelings towards me. Expressed through using political clout to demean me
Colin, I say this in love, please wake up to the idea that truth is what it is, regardless of you making a decision about whether you want to accept it or not. You seem to be someone with deep empathy and also someone whose silence over the years has contributed in some small amount to the situation that we are in at a society level.
You got fired for being real, men and women are different in every way. Anybody trying to tell you differently is just lying to themselves and/or a slave to a political ideology. May not seem like it but they did you a favor. Hope you get back on your feet soon.
I desperately want Joe to interview Rosario Butterfield. It would be highly in the religious camp side of things, but boy would we get a phenomenal episode to watch.
People can still spend the rest of their life with someone without getting married. They can also have all their money go to them with a will or legal documentation without getting married. They can also put someone down as an emergency contact without being married. Marriage should be taken way more seriously and not like a oh let’s do it because it’s a party and we can post nice pictures on social media. We need people to start taking marriage much more serious because divorce is horrible for everyone involved.
