It's interesting to watch Rick's innate ability to draw people out - he creates a certain atmosphere for artists that they become optimal in their expression... EVen here, as he's being interviewed, he sets Joe up and Joe just let's it flow....This talent for lulling people into expressing themselves by creating a super comfortable environment is what makes him such a great producer.
I think sometimes you get so rich that you think everyone is out to get you. I see that always happens especially when they grew up with no money. I have a brother who makes a lot of money and is financially successful and he always swears everyone’s thinking about him and out to get him when it ain’t even like that.
On the workout topic, Joe is so right. Was at the gym yesterday and felt more demotivated than I have in a while but I got in there and started my exercise. As usual, by the end I felt great despite how I felt when I walked in
This reminds me of something I heard once, motivation comes after the activity not before.. if we just push ourselves into doing what we think we need motivation for, we will have it.
I have a friend of mine, who after 25yrs is finally getting to audition and star in movies with big name actors. I am so glad it is happening to her now vs back when we had just finished HS. It probably would have destroyed her in her younger yrs. She has stared in movies and tv shows with Sylvester Stallone and Dennis Quaid just to name a few. When I hang out with her and her husband, we never really talk about the movie stuff and when we do, she is very humble about it.
one of the key points - Joe said its important to spend time thinking. You need to build in time to do that, to let your brain unwind otherwise it bites you - either mental health or sickness. Being on your own and being okay with it and just thinking - imagination. So important. When I was a youngster i was a full time graphic artist and none of my work was I super happy with because always under production deadlines, i never got time to stop think, spend a day or two just looking at my work like an artist does with their paintings before adding or taking something away - you cant do that in the workplace. I ended up hating my work and got out of art. I also found art people to be the biggest bulliest you cant trust them either. But yeah, if you work in the arts or have a creative business you need to build into the work week like a whole day of creative think time. Otherwise you lose the art. Its the imagination where the art comes from.
I thought like this too, till I realized; graphic designers are not artists, nor are set builders(and thousands of other jobs), your are on a production and need to fulfill someone else's vision, be it an ad for a magazine or making a movie, it uses your "artistic talent" but has nothing to do with your art, which is totally personal. I quit art for years recently went back into it with the mindset of doing "my" art, and have no concern for if people will like it or not, it's been a completely mind freeing experience - just having fun with it, I've went into some vending and have sold everything I make. I'll also add I'm a proud lowbrow artists, all that art gallery stuff is not for me.
Wow...this clip takes a really great, deep turn. I LOVE that Rick asks such a thoughtful question at Joe, but I was even more delighted at what a great response Joe had...this is the classic shit that people came to the podcast for in the first place, and it's no surprise a great guest can still bring that out of Joe. A+++
It’s a showcase by Rick on the art of listening. Too many would walk all over Joe in the middle of his explanation and make it about them. A corny joke, a one time at band camp story.
Did Joe really answer the question though? I interpreted Rick's question as "how do you keep a relatable comedy mind while being famous" essentially how do you not become out of touch. And joe gave a pretty out of touch answer lol
As a teenager for brief moment I wanted fame, but as I've aged and listened to celebrities on interviews and podcasts I've realized anonymity is priceless. But I was never a musician or an artist or passionate about making art for a living
I think it’s a problem in part bc many celebrities are rich and famous for things that are vapid entertainment, not seriously important and there’s probably an inherent and unidentified guilt or emptiness in that. If you work hard doing good and are paid accordingly, that feels good. If you’re just partying and performing crap putting bad vibes into the world (looking at you gangster rap and exploitative Brittney chaos), that’s pretty meaningless. I’m not surprised Eminem became an addict or Gaga or Brit went crazy. Life has to be ordered towards meaningful things: god, family, service, hard work, etc. if you’re just partying, hooking up, fighting for superficiality, and doing drugs, you’re going to feel like crap. Oh, and I like Em, he’s a lyrical genius but it’s not enough to be happy and feel good.
I’m also a fan of Em, and frankly I think he just was one of the ones that wasn’t cut out for fame and everything it brings with it. He seems really private and I’m glad he seems to have made it to a place where he’s happy.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. However, I do think some celebs are inherently good people. They do charity work, strive towards self growth/humility, and focus on perfecting their craft. Nothing wrong with that. They may be rare but they are out there
Excellent conversation, Rogan even made a point I’m experiencing right now with doing something so difficult it makes everything else easy - totally empathize with that.
This person is reposting Rogans work. (Essentially stealing money) so if you're really a fan don't subscribe this, go to his real channels please, and report this one 😁
I don’t understand why he is so obsessed with his standup career when he’s had so much success with TV and podcasting. One of the most delusional aspects of his character.
I think most people growing up want fame of some sort, few would realize the consequences. Pink Floyd comes to mind as a band that had achieved moderate success as a band through many albums, then they made Dark Side of the Moon and their lives got completely turned upside down.
the worst about being a celebrity is your privacy being invaded all the time, companies suing you out of blue, taxes and your public opinion... those are 4 keys of being a celebrity people look over, not knowing that this can make you or break you as a person and celebrity smh
Joe’s visions and insights on life are so profound and informative. He is always great to listen to. Joe if you have not read this message me if you have a few moments I’ve got an idea for guests on your show a little out of context and completely different. I hope everything is going well. God bless
I like reading comments on my music when it comes to how the mix sounds or guitar tones etc….I like to constantly improve on those things. As soon as I get a comment that starts getting out of the technical aspect I swipe it away. Unless it’s an emotional comment that one of my songs helped someone or they connected on emotional level. I like that part.
there's nothing funny about it. the guy might not be the brightest but it seems he found peace and a working recipe for a meaningful life from his point of view and understands that you first need to love yourself and don't care for others thoughts about you on a profound level. it's easy to say that but you need a certain wisdom to achieve that. you're probably too young to understand that fully but you'll appreciate it more if you're a bit more matured. many people never get to that point at all
You were absolutely right! It was impossible for you to survive just on the money you earn as comic, but thank God you have the knowledge and ability to dabble other areas.
I can confirm that working out has been the only thing that’s helped me. Anxiety is literally an energy that can be used, burned out. Depression is kind of the opposite and can be blasted away through vigorous time in the gym. When I feel bad I know that it’s more important to go. It takes a fair bit of commitment.
I agree with the training. I enjoy it so much I completely gave up alcohol just to feel stronger training and to get better sleep to recover. Nothing like a big workout. The impact lasts all day and into the night.
Tom Petty did visit the restaurant where I worked from time to time. He sat at the bar in the daytime and pretty much remained unbothered and unrecognized.
Our ego's tell us that if everyone got to really know us, there is something about us that they would like. The truth is that we live our lives in anonymity while surrounded by people. If you want everyone to like you, you are doomed to becoming neurotic. A small percent will hate you for no reason, and most people will simply not care about you one way or the other. If everyone got to know you, only a small percentage will like you, and that is a hard pill for our ego's to swallow. If you become famous, it may be nice to see many people cheering you, but we remember the handful that spew hate at us for no reason. Why would you care about what they think about you?
I think he is a world class authority on recording studio gear. Makes a lot of sense not just that he does, but HOW he does, killing the sound on the other cup, so it doesn't spread and gets into the (probably quite good) microphones in the studio.
Some people handle it well like Shaq. He enjoys going out and meeting people in stores, helping people, etc. You can tell he isn't stressed or anxious around them. Sure he is a huge person but I don't think that plays a significant role in why he is comfortable. It may also be based on why someone is famous. Are they famous for their looks? It can be stressful constantly looking good when going out in public and being judged for it. Are you famous for playing a sport where it doesn't matter what you look like?
Shaq is such a big guy, even if he wasn't famous he would still stand out in any crowd. But it's good that he embraces his fame and doesn't choose to be a hermit to avoid the masses.
If I was a self made millionaire, who then became famous, once I knew me and my family were set for life, I would do everything in my power to not be famous anymore.
It definitely is a choice. People like Maynard from the band Tool - He chose to purchase a farm, stayed out of Los Angeles or major cities, focused on his winery and avoided a lot of interviews and going to major paparazzi areas. Christian Bale also avoided a lot of the limelight outside of promotion. It seems they all are still doing a whole lot and they are not retired, yet they aren't bombarded by the pressures of fame like others.
What you got to understand about that much money is you create a monetary empire when you become famous and Rich. People become invested in YOUR livelihood and if you are not very clever and quick-witted you may find yourself trapped.
5:05 - "Doing the things you dont want to do (what is difficult), and doing them rigorously." - Joe Rogan (& St Thomas A.) - On what makes a man healthy, sane, and MANLY (having courage and fortitude)
Can't imagine what fame does to a person. I imagine that it could be a total mind-f**k. I love my 'normal' life. Fame seems like a burden. You either love it and are desperate to hold onto it - or - you just want to move through your life uninterupted - but are constantly being stopped for pics and autographs. Sounds awful
@@rossco78 yep. I wanted to be a famous pop singer in the 80s/90s, and was actually on a trajectory to make that happen when I got signed to a major label in 1996. That deal fell through and another major was considering signing me in 2005. When that also fell through, I was pretty heartbroken for years. But then social media came along…. and now I feel like I dodged a bullet. There is no way I would have been able to deal with that kind of pressure. Fame is a whole different beast in the 21st century. I very much value my anonymity and privacy now. (The money would’ve been nice though 😉)
I ain't famous but was really popular high school once I switched school it changed I wasn't known or anything ... being unknown was better for some weird reason being able to go down the hallway without getting high fives I remember was more enjoyable than having to stop to say hi to everyone
I have been saying walking barefoot is like a grounding wire for your soul forever. When I saw Rick spends a lot of time barefoot, I was like...yeah, I was right.
Joe has no idea how utterly and totally religious he is. Not (merely) a seeker or mystic. Religious. Take another listen--it's there. The quest (and realization) of unity in-and-amidst a transcendent ONE. Keep at it, Joe.
Tom Petty for me was some of the greatest musicians of the 1980 ies and 1990 ies did he ever write a Bad or Boring Song ? I wouldnt want to imagine Life without Into the Great Wide Open or Learning to Fly.
That's why I think running and riding a bicycle are such great exercise. I know and I set out on a bike ride if I ride 15 miles I've got to ride 15 more to get back.
Joe speaks the truth and is sincere... Rick is a full of it... if you break down whatever he says, it always adds up to nothing, much like those new age "guru" hustlers... it is soothing and makes u feel good but it is about zero.. it's quite a skill... beware
I worked at moonshadows restaurant in Malibu in the early and mid 1990s. Tom Petty was a regular he came in with his then girlfriend or wife I don't know which, and he would always go to the bar and the bar was gently lit and he would go to a table not the bar itself and sit with his significant other and everybody left him alone. I think it has something to do with the culture of Malibu and at the time in particular Moon Shadows it was such a small scale restaurant at the time and the culture of Malibu the people who lived in Malibu we really left famous people alone we did not bother them so I think he felt safe there. this is in reply to Rick rubin's observation the Tom Petty now never left the house well he did and he did it to come to the restaurant I was working at and sit at the bar and I think he did it cuz he was left alone and of course the restaurant is over the water you feel like you're on a ship and it's an amazing view one final observation one day I was working as a waiter late at night and one of my fellow waiters comes up to me and says hey man there's a guy in the bar and he looks just like Tom Petty's dad. and I looked at my smile and I said that's Tom Petty. because it really was him. I always thought that was funny
Dude, I love how this guy's beard rocks back and forth when he shakes his head. They could make a whole Hollywood picture based on Rick rubins beard rocking back and forth LMFAO
You don't have to got to Wall Street to make tons of money. You can just charge lots of money and not show up for work like Rubin: "Although he and his bandmates had some positive things to say about Rubin, Slipknot's lead singer Corey Taylor said that he met Rubin only four times during the entire recording process of Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)[30] and that Rubin barely came to the studio: "We were being charged horrendous amounts of money. And for me, if you're going to produce something, you're fucking there. I don't care who you are!" He also added: "The Rick Rubin of today is a ... shadow of the Rick Rubin that he was. He is overrated, he is overpaid, and I will never work with him again"
Co-signed Joe’s got it on point working out definitely helps you to stave off negative emotions anxiety and depression boosting your feel good chemicals in your brain and Psychedelics most certainly help to realign your perspectives and outlook on life in general.
The source of good and evil are the same. The thing that gives you your high is the same thing that will give you your low. Don’t expect only high or low. High and low are the two sides of the same coin. Don’t chase the highs and don’t chase the lows.
I think people muddle being appreciated for themselves in thier close relationships and friendships with being appreciated for the job they do. And it must mess with your head if the public think you are your job. Guess it's the entertainers and artists who can separate that from the start who come out least damaged.
The real problem is, they may have millions and they may be doing what they love to do, but they have no meaning in their lives. And this is true about most of the people on this planet.
I don’t leave my room much, I really only leave for food, cleaning, or work. But I do often go shopping for clothes and going to a mall after being famous would suck tbh
@@forposterity4031 I know who he is, as I TOO am old. He has a 50 year resume so I'd say he was involved with half music everyone listens to. My message was for another, obviously, old person who doesn't know how the internet works.
Joe didn't answer the question at all lol his answer is the least grounded thing ever. How can you be relatable to the average person when all you do is work out, sauna/cold plunge and write. Dude doesn't know what normal people do anymore.
When he was talking to Joe about being a comedian had me dying 🤣🤣 then joe talks about it being impossible to make money doing stand up🤣🤣 no shit you can't make money at it when you are terrible at it.
