I think you are missing the point. It's a right, no one owes you or anyone else justification by stating a need. Just as free speech doesn't require you to state a need before you are allowed to speak your mind.
@@dirt111112 because it’s nobody’s fucking business why someone else needs something, it’s their right to do what they want, just like you can’t explain why you need to be a pansy and go against our second amendment
GoodTimeTraveler you seem to have it backwards anyone can 2A especially 4A but the people who wrote it down clearly knew 1A was written first while they argued which order was more important; 3A with 2A only after 1A isn’t enough. Unfortunately police aren’t 3A if they have 4A. But hey at least you have 5A just in case and so on
@@keni95851 All of mankind is deserving of these rights. Whether you believe in a higher power of not, the fact of the matter is that government is OUR servant, not the other way around. They never had jurisdiction to take what cannot even be administered. For rights cannot be given, we have them naturally.
This story made me think of the time I first went shooting, it was a Glock 19, Walther PPS, and a CZ 75. What spoke out to me the most when I was at the range was how heavy the guns were and how it inspired me to be Pro-2nd Amendment and influenced me to want to become a gun owner in the future. Why the weight of the gun spoke out stuck out the most was because it taught me something, to have such a small device need so much discipline and control, gave me a little hint into what it must've been like to be a gun owner. To have the power to end a life with 5 lbs. of pressure from your finger, the responsibility that hangs over your head, the precautions you must take to make sure such a device doesn't get into the wrong hands inspired me. I wanted to have that sense of discipline and responsibility, I also realized that having a gun didn't make me feel powerful, it made me more careful, it led me to follow every instruction that was given to me, and led me to ask for advice from other people at the range. I do want to own a gun to have that right to be able to defend myself, but I want to learn that responsibility of being a gun owner and have that responsibility as an adult, I want to be able to exercise my right to the 2nd Amendment, and I want to be able to have that extra bit of security, in case if the worst comes.
forget the nra for a moment, this is a fan-freakin-tastic story of some1 coming to understand the firearm tool that lead them to embrace the 2a and constitution as a whole. good for u, man
The asiatic Lion the police also had racist up bringings. But I still love them. Also this was just made. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AIwXarl6w-M.html
@@D-Rock420 I'm personally just fine with children, felons and the untreated mentally ill not having guns. You agree with that? Or are you two THAT absolutist about it?
@@ryandonovan5895 I'd ask you to define "mentally ill" before we discuss whether the people who fit in that category should or shouldn't have firearms.
Not a big gun guy but this was a hell of a good episode, he's a great speaker, brought up a lot of good points for this whole debate. Would love to see more of him on.
Saying you are a liberal DOES NOT mean that you have to agree with every single thing the left supports. This is why identity politics is not good for America.
Don’t get caught up in identity politics Jeremy. Having different beliefs is what we are as people. Creating barriers of thought is why this identity bullshit is so fuckedz
Joe's a Joe today. He has liberal stances on some issues, conservative stances on some issues, and somewhere in-between for some issues. Do yourself a favor and drop your tribal approach to politics.
@@aleck5431 im glad youre one of the people that can recognise the main reason you want it to be legal is purely because you enjoy it, which is a perfectly valid reason, instead of making up some bullshit about it being necessary for your families protection
I've always had a deep respect for you Joe, even more so now with this conversation. I've never heard of this young man before. listening to him speak so eloquently and intelligently about firearms at his age is impressive. What impresses me even more so is you letting your podcast shine a light on a subject which so many people perceived as a volatile conversation that should only be argued and not civilly conversed about. I am a gun owner and an NRA member.
The weirdest part about this whole argument to me. Is that you’re arguing to take guns away from people who haven’t ever done anything wrong. Like 4 percent of gun related crime is done by people with legally owned fire arms. Do you think criminals will turn in there unregistered guns if the law told them to do so? Do you not think Mexico and South America wouldn’t just ship up guns along with the drugs they send to this country already? Do you not know that London just passed NY CITY in its murder rate and they don’t even have guns there people are just stabbing eachother to death that much? What kinda fairytale land are you living in.
Patrick Leathers they always like to point at the UK “UK has low crime rates and it has strict gun laws” but that’s bc UK has never had much crime in the first place. It’s misguided thinking you can take away people’s guns. There’s simply too much of them and our circumstances don’t allow for it. Why don’t we look at the real issue like the mental health of the one weilding the gun. It’s juvenile to just blame the inanimate object.
Are facts racist? Here is some evidence...Chicago is roughly 42% white/other, 33% black, 20% Hispanic, 5% Asian. Murder victims 2017: 20 white - 527 black - 116 Hispanic. heyjackass.com/category/2017-stats/
Who's... who's arguing for taking away people's guns? You know that's a minority opinion, right? Most gun control supporters don't want a mass gun confiscation. How comes every conversation about potential gun control dissolves to this myth about repealing the 2nd amendment?
This dude is awesome, I had no idea he was only introduced to firearms after adulthood, good to see even one person see the other side of the 2A community
5point 5six that’s the best you got? I’m not Dem nor Republican.... I don’t live in boxes! Nor do I live on plantations.... he’s a phuck boy, just like you.
Hey Joe, first off love the channel and the topics you come to the table with. This is such a good topic and I really hope that all those who follow your channel take the time to listen to it all the way through. We have a lot in common and I've watched your stuff for years through different platforms. Love Steve Rinella, Cam Hanes (I'm a born and raised Oregonian), various MMA channels, and the list can go on. Anyway, your channel reaches so many people including those that oppose everything you say. I'm an NRA member, avid Bowhunter, OHA, RMEF, and a couple others that give to conservation of animals, and their habitat. Keep doing what you're doing. Love it!
First gun I owned was an XD 40. I didn’t think it was “too much caliber”. But more to the point. I’m not surprised, but never thought of it, that NRA members don’t commit “evil acts” with guns. Who is this dude? More articulate than I am on this subject. Want to hear more of him.
Here is a link to his videos on gun reviews he does to get a feel. His articulation pretty much translate through every video... Great stuff and great editing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gto2DCm6Lx4.html
I grew up with a loaded gun under the sofa. We knew it was there. We didn't touch it. Our gun never jumped out from under the sofa and shoot anyone. It just lay there, waiting on someone to clean it intermittently.
Not really. Rogan tries to shove a stupid argument "no member of the NRA has ever done X". Well sure, the NRA has a lot of good responsible shooters. It's one of the things they teach. But the fearmongering they spew is very much in the American popular consciousness and foments violent rhetoric.
We don't have to ban cars -- but we do have speed limits, MPG restrictions, age limits, the DMV, certain tests for various types of vehicles, even background checks, and so on.
Driving is not a right. Driving is a privilege. This is why your ability to drive can be removed fairly easily. Owning a firearm is a right, guaranteed by the Constitution. Removing an individual's right to own a firearm or put qualifiers on it, takes something extraordinary to happen, like the person committing a felony that they are then convicted of in a court of law. Why is it so difficult for people to understand this concept?
@@CD-pj5qi False. It was made because every human has the right to defend themselves and each other by any means necessary. Also, self defence will never become outdated. Especially since the government has used Covid-19 as a way to steal more power for themselves. Not to mention that criminals will never cease to exist. Your point is very childish and naive.
I am an old white woman and a gun advocate. I would like to see more responsible young people learn that guns are a tool, albeit a deadly one. Just a tool that every responsible person in the U.S.A. has a right to own.
Lol tool? Its primary function is set to be a weapon. Thats a dumb argument. You like weapons? Then, own it.. Its a gun , a weapon , not a paint brush , or table saw . Guns are weapons ... and personally they are all over the place in the united states.. its sad that there is high gun violence in your urban areas.. im not saying im against owning a weapon.. weapons can be used to hunt and kill.. so w.e just stop calling a hand gun a fucking tool thats some dumb shit.
My first gun was a DD44 Dostovei, and then I traded it in for an RC-P90, but it's illegal because it's fully automatic and fires 80 rounds at a time. I'd shot a Klobb before, but it was weak. I also have a Cougar Magnum and a D5K Deutsche.
Proxxiy you know fuck all. Lots of guns here in KY and no school shootings. Fucking idiot. The CULTURE changed and stopped embracing Americanism. Became more like socialists in urban areas. And socialists and anarchists are killers. Now, piss off dunce.
@@Varama Shootings have been going down since the 1990s yet there are more guns than ever. Oh do you mean someone could get an illegal gun. Crazy how crazy people do crazy things but hey like less than one percent of the population commit crimes yet we all are fucked up. Use your brain next time you post.
Gun Owners of America >>>>>>>>>> NRA. I love Colion a lot & he's a great guy.....but GOA is actually fighting for preserving & RESTORING all of our 2A rights, unlike the NRA. The NRA is only for maintaining the status quo...just like establishment Republicans. This is NOT a helpful strategy for maintaining the 2nd rights of Americans b/c the anti-gun people are going to win sometimes (It's just a reality) and the NRA has decided to just let them have their occasional "wins" in order to not rock the boat. They need to fight for restoring rights. They need to be like GOA.
I've introduced quite a few people to shooting guns for the first time, and ALL of them are amazed by the power, and LOVE how fun it is to shoot a gun safely. Teaching those people the essentials of gun safety is also very important, which is what I do right off the bat.
Damn that brother just spoke more truth than anyone I've heard in a long time ... white, hispanic, black american period. Truth does & always should transcend race & social status. 💯 agree with him.
ok this is just more government propaganda, (had a quick look at colins channel) If you really like guns go watch demolition ranch (my fav) just for one
Has he talked about the youtube headquarters getting shot up yet? I'd love to get Joes take on why the media didn't cover it much. Could be because a female, vegan, Muslim, woman done it in a gun free zone in one of the strictest gun law states. If the focus wasn't on the tool and more on the people and a way to prevent these atrocities, things might actually change.
Great conversation! Every human being does have the right to defend their life, liberty and that of their loved ones. No amendment necessary, but it is there to that end.
one of those guys No shit genius, but there are ways to safely limit guns to nutjobs Any other ordinary person won't have an issue obtaining a legal weapon of choice
Oscar Angulo Laws only matter to those that choose to obey them. We should just make murder and theft illegal, that would solve everything. AMIRITE? GTFOH with your tripe. Also you missed the whole point of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
A drunk driver kills someone the blame goes to the person and not the alcohol or the car. A knife kills someone the blame goes to the person and not the knife. An officer kills someone with a gun they call it police brutality. A civilian kills someone with a gun and they blame the gun. ...How does that work?
I didn't know Colion's first range day was at one of my local ranges. That's kinda cool. I used to go to Top Gun a lot but lately I mostly just go to Shiloh
Here's a great analogy: If a carpenter builds you a house, and the house falls down and kills someone, do you blame the hammer? Do you seek to ban hammers? No. The *carpenter* gets the blame, _their_ training, _their_ intention, _their_ skills get the scrutiny... No one looks at the hammer and thinks that is the problem.
Its not complicated. "Shall not be infringed" isn't difficult to understand. It doesn't need to be interpreted. If the left wants to repeal the second amendment, that process is laid out in the constitution. It has to be agreed upon by both houses of congress and the Executive branch, then it has to ratified by 2/3 of all state legislatures. Its a high bar for a reason.
Typical response, did you see the comma that separates the two statements? But I'll indulge you, who makes up the militia? By definition, what is a militia?
In the parlance of the day, "well regulated" simply meant well trained. Look it up. And it guarantees the right of "the people" to maintain arms, not the states. Look at the Federalist Papers, particularly Federalist 46. James Madison lays it all out. The second amendment exists to provide a counter balance to government power and the founders viewed a well armed populace as essential to the survival of a free people. (Its not about hunting or shooting a burglar. That was just assumed to be totally obvious) Privately owned cannons were covered by the second amendment back in the day in fact.
I live in Houston, Texas and Top Gun Range was the place where I fired a gun for the first time in my life. It was also the place where I bought my first ever gun as well. A Glock 19.
@Bro Spec People die everyday. You've just chosen to hone your focus on gun violence. If the US was how you claim it to be, people wouldn't be clamoring from all over to get here.
Unfortunately the GOA doesn't have the voice and the pull of the NRA in the political sphere. GOA needs to become more mainstream so we can retire the NRA.
BOB honestly no company will support a group that is 100% against regulation. It’s a bad business move and I’m sorry but the majority of people and gun owners don’t feel the way you do.
I just kinda randomly stumbled on this, but i think its cool how he mentioned the last lane at top gun houston. that was the first gun range i went to when i got my first gun. same exact lane too, the last one
The right to self defense is deeper than a human right. It's an animal right. The 2nd amendment acknowledges your animal right to defend yourself as vigerously as you can muster.
jackhandy00 NO. The 2nd amendment guarantees the citizen the right to overthrow our elected government. It's to keep the government in check. To fight against tyrannical governments. To remind the government who is really in power (citizens)
Marius Dicpetris ????? I hope you don't mean we are killing each other with gun by tens of thousands each year.... That simply isn't true. Cite your source... Don't perpetuate falsehoods to match your agenda. Car kill more people every year than guns do. Obesity kills more people every year than firearms do. Should we ban cars and fat people?...
There's no such thing as an "animal right". Animals have no concept of rights. Lmao. Rights don't actually exist, you know? They're things we've made up but we've agreed to abide by them. You think people should have the right to defend themselves as vigorously as they can muster. So does that mean you think citizens should be allowed to own rocket launchers? Tanks? Mines? If not,, you already disagree with your own argument.
Shannon Farrell Note though that cars have a ton of regulations and laws attached to them. Note that people need a license to drive a car, and they can have their license taken away. Also note that cars have a cvital purpose in our society and it would cease to function without them. And banning fat people is a stupid idea to combat obesity. That's a dumb argument because nobody's suggesting banning gun owners. Obesity also doesn't kill anyone but yourself.
Most people today will not realize how important the second amendment is until we’re in a situation where we all need them in our hands and don’t have them.
Really Bob, history would say otherwise. Look at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. All wars where U.S. troops with all their air superiority and tanks etc struggled to fight off the local insurgents. We the people, if it came to "that" would fair just fine.
Vietnam deaths: ALLIED (47 000); NVA/VC (444 000) CIVILIANS (627 000) Your definition of fine is different to mine. This, also in a time where killing is nowhere near as efficient as it is now. There are arguments for guns (not many), but keeping you safe from governments is not one of them.
I really, really would like to know what situation that might be. Because frankly, I've no idea what the fuck y'all are thinking. What situation might occur where you need to have guns? Not just hunting rifles or shotguns, but assault rifles? And don't give me any bullshit about "assault rifle isn't a thing." I'm an Army veteran. I know what an assault rifle is. I know what they're designed to do and I know in detail how they differ from hunting rifles. So stow that nonsense and tell me exactly when you think Americans will need to have military weaponry.
You know why you have that feeling of afraid of an inanimate object is because that particular inanimate object is designed for one purpose only to kill
3:20 "I just contained an explosion in my hand". That is truly amazing at first. Now, learn how to control it, direct it, and help others and augment our Law Enforcement through strict training.
The NRA has sponsored more laws on regulations than any other "gun rights" group. They wrote the background check legislation. The NRA is on the govts side. If you wanna support 2A that would be the GOA. Any restrictions or regulations go directly against the most important words of the amendment. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Also says under a well regulated militia. Btw the amendment was written in a pretty vague sense and with no foresight as to how powerful these weapons would become.
"The right to self defense is universal"........ Not in the UK
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Because in UK and most european countries the governments don't care about people, they care only about themselves. Any restrictions are there to prevent people from mutiny against the government, not to stop the criminals.
@ yeah man.. their anti gun agenda has kinda fallen apart since they tried to remove police. Everyone is buying guns right now. Even those that were anti gun before.
The day I legally bought my own firearms was one of the greatest days of my life I truly felt I was an American. - I am a staunch advocate of private gun ownership I believe in the right to Home self defense and sport shooting. God Bless NRA
If an object you simply purchased makes you feel any more or less belonging to a society, you're a moron. Same goes for the idiots that care about flags and rituals but not their fellow Americans.
Raul- What does me owning a firearm have to do with anyone else, I’m not a criminal and why should I be punished for the actions of one person, that’s the question that no one can ever answer, and come on you think the European governments care about their people, what about Australia’s or Canada’s, they are intentionally flooding their countries with the shittiest possible people you could find.
@@MakingAmericaSmartAgain You do you. Don't tell me what to do. I'm going to tip the odds in my favor as far as I can. BTW, is that your advise to a woman? Is that what you would have as your daughters, or wife, sister, mothers only line of defense? Or would you like them to be able to stop a threat quickly and effectively?
