@@punisher00109 Interesting, I didn't knew that. I believe it's always best to optimize your natural hormone levels first with a form of weight training, proper nutrition and enough sleep. Using gels or getting injections for the rest of your life is no joke.
When I was doing TRT the biggest benefit for me was mental clarity. It's those damn hormones again! Low testosterone makes you lethargic and depressed.
@@patrickparson9628 Uhm, "Healthy women have just as much testosterone as healthy men" is completely wrong. You can't just say stuff like that. (I'll let you google it yourself as you should have before typing it)
@@patrickparson9628 That's not true at all. A healthy woman doesn't even have half of the testosterone of a healthy man. Hell, even a woman with relatively high testosterone won't have as much as a man with lower levels of T. Testosterone is produced in men by the testicles. Women produce testosterone, but NOWHERE NEAR at the levels that a man with semi-functional balls do. If women had the same levels, they would have facial hair, bone density, and muscle mass at the same levels as men. They would also cease to menstruate and loss their fertility. Whereas high testosterone make men more fertile.
@Tyson MMA my situation is complex, very complex. if you still feel good than yes of course. pretty sure my problem is genetic, my androgen receptors do not process testosterone correctly. there still isn't enough research on this. no doctor would even touch me, had to find a specialist, but it cured all of my symptoms. willing to take the risk.
34 and just started TRT two months ago. Ive lost 25lbs, bike 8miles a day, my depression is almost completely gone, I’m in control of my anxiety, feel more motivated . I probably needed it when I was in my 20s but my doctors just gave me anti anxiety or anti depressants.
@@swisstrader I spoke to my primary care doctor. I told her about all my symptoms and if I could get a blood test to check my levels. Sure enough T was low. I’m still losing weight, but the muscle I have put on since this post has been significant. Just ask your doctor to test your levels, that’s step 1. Good luck!
@@swisstrader If you try and go through your primary care doctor, they will only treat you if you are below the recommended levels however, if you go to a anti aging clinic they will treat your symptoms of low t even if its not "clinically low". Not hard to get unless you're naturally high and or, have really bad health issues (I.E. prostate, thyroid, etc.)
Aardvark 52 I think he isn't taking too much, he's too much of a health freak to over do it. Joe's to type of nigga that takes his shit to a lab once a month to get it analyzed and milk his prostate regularly, for health reasons.
I mean its really not that great to see because most people are idiots without the resources he has and he is encouraging them to do things that can be hurtful.
jon doe not legit and joe is not that healthy man. Dude never went on one cleanse which is a big part about health. Joes shit probably stinks like rotten eggs
@@octobeastX for sure I totally understand that... I think it is a fair point to bring up when talking about dominating your buddies in a fitness challenge though. I'm positive Bert and Ari and Tom know about the TRT ( and dont care) but it is fair to acknowledge the advantage it does provide.
34 here and on TRT, 100 test cyp, once a week. For years I’ve battled depression and anxiety. I hit the gym 5-6 times a week and ate a very clean diet but with test levels at 250…it just wasn’t enough. Best decision I’ve ever made! I’ve been able to quit my depression and anxiety drugs! Today I was able to hit the gym hard, and took my kids out to the park to play the entire day! Finally feel like I can be the dad that my kids needs and a husband that is FULLY functional. It’s a game changer! Get your levels tested!
I’m right around that same number, and 39. Literally talked to my doc today, seeing the other doc Tuesday. So excited, can’t wait!!! Looking forward to the energy and not being a maniac over the littlest thing lol
I'm 43. My total came back at 286. I workout (heavy kettlebell and BJJ) 4 to 5 days a week. Eat, sleep, stress management... I always feel like I'm playing catch up. I'm at the point where I either need to start a theraputic level of trt or reduce my activity.
@@TDR85 I think no matter what you do, your still gonna feel like shit imo. I’m at 252, regardless if I have enough sleep, working my ass off or sitting on the beach on holiday, I still feel lazy as hell. From everything I’ve seen or read, every dude has said the energy and mental clarity is really noticeable. Im absolutely going that route. I want that number at minimal at 1k, nothing below if possible.
@@patrickjames661 do you really think every man takes some miracle pills? You are online and you are listening to a small circle of influencers who in turn listen to each other. But majority of men live without it and feel fine. But what do I know
There's nothing wrong with it at all. But he can't brag about his fitness being better than everyone else's. But honestly he's human. I would brag about it to and everyone here who loves themselves enough would as well. LOL.
This will probably become more mainstream in a few years. It looks like, stigma apart, that it could be something quite positive for many men hitting their 40-50s
Thats the age that I would only consider doing it (barring severe mental health issues). I feel as if I should be able ti naturally keep my levels high/at normal rates in my 30s
@@shaun8353 watch your blood pressure, also your nuts will shrink, also your blood will thicken and your risk of heart attacks and strokes increase a lot.
I just started this therapy. I was depressed, full of anxiety, lack of energy. I'm on my 4th week. I'm sleeping, almost no anxiety. I'm still waiting for the energy to pop. I did what Joe explained. I got off alcohol, sugar, limited my diet. I'm not going to lie. Alcohol was a struggle but I'm 3 weeks in no drinking.
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 . Still sleeping well, no anxiety (got off of zolof). I'm limiting my alcohol intake and sugar as well. My energy is back but not teenager like stuff but get this ... my sex drive is through the roof!
@@thebammer4832 I'm almost hitting 30 and i have been tired af for the past 5yrs, I've been on several ssri's which never did spit and I did check my levels twice and the range was 220-230 within a gap of 7 months. I'm terribly anxious, moody, lack of initiative, no longer desire women. Tell me honestly do you think I should go for this?
@@kleshayer3751 Rock is obviously taking high amounts the bodybuilders do while Kevin Hart is naturall but I bet he will be on it when he starts to decline he has good genes.
If your not on TRT and you absolutely need it, I’m here to tell you, go see a doctor, get your levels tested. I’ve been on TRT for year and it’s the best life decision I ever made. I’m 36 and feel like I’m 18.
@@screamofitness Lower testosterone in younger adults is becoming more common. It's because the chemicals in plastic affect hormone levels. Obviously plastic is everywhere. Most food comes packaged in plastic. Medicines, vitamins, soaps, shampoos, etc. Even if you actually avoid plastics you will still get them in your system. Your good hormones will be lower than they should be. TRT will raise those hormones to healthy levels. I asked my doctor about TRT when I was about 32. The doctor says to wait until I was 40, and then insurance will cover it. I'm 39 and looking forward to it next year.
@@JB-1138 wow it's hard for me to relate I am 33 and I do just about everything I can to manage stress, sleep enough eat healthy and take any vitamin or supplement that is Natural that i can take and i have been able to maintain good healthy Testosterone levels.
TRT has been a major life saver for me for years I dealt with depression and anxiety and not one anti depressant was able to help me get back to normal but TRT has been a lifesaver and it should be offered to more patients as long as they have been checked regularly and are not trying to abuse it…. People who have depression or anxiety don’t have to struggle anymore but still some Dr’s are not willing to take the opportunity and add to the quality of life and benefits to their patients.. this has to change!!!
cory ddp $15-$20 per 200mg of test cyp on the street, once a week won’t break the bank, but the blood tests an co-pays add up, so if you wanna do it the right way it’s gonna add up.
You can get 9 months supply of testosterone cyp for less than $100 from a pharmacy. On the street, it would cost less than half that. The growth hormone is really expensive, though.
@@PawnshopmikeATL Plenty of people I sold to when I worked at a gas station sound like diaz. And they smell bad without knowing it. Plenty of people quit, so it's up to you
I had my first TRT appointment last month and first blood test last week, and everything Joe is saying is true. The medical advisor kept asking me about sleep, weed and booze. He said don’t bother with TRT if I smoke weed because marijuana devastates Testosterone in men.
I’m smoke weed occasionally so I didn’t think it would effect me but I smoked and tried to get some abs I couldn’t I’m like this defeats the purpose !!! 🤦🏿♂️
To put this into further perspective the age gap between Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz is only 5 yrs... But its like Joe is talking to a friends dad in the vid
Well also to be fair, informed, consistent & honest.....Joey Diaz since he was an urban grade school kid was fkin his body up HARD. He was lookinglike a rough 65 till around 2005. Then he looked 81 with terminal illnesses for 15 years. It is what it is. He's been getting ALOT better for a couple years now so here's hoping he'll only continue on the path he's on especially now that he has a kid of his own.
Haha, I love how that guy laughs! Makes me laugh myself! Started TRT 3-4 months ago, and feel much better now. Still have a long way to go, but its going in the right direction. No more raving depression and steady fat gain, and total loss of energy and motivation.
Shit sure helped me, for some reason my production got knocked out after Iraq. Was emotional and depressed, constantly felt like dogshit. Then I asked my doc to check my test levels and boom sure that was the problem. Doc started me on TRT and i've felt better ever since.
TRT changed my life. I was 109 pounds at 33. I'm 35 and 161 and happy. Deca changed my life too. I wish I did it sooner. It was all because of a 2 min conversation with my doctor. We were talking about getting therapy to help me with life and in conversation I said "It's like the testosterone was beaten and screamed/yelled out of me when I was a child" .... Turns out there is something called "Cortisol" in my blood that kept me in survival mode.
@@hellohello-jj2lf Been on it for 10 years...I'm 48. Feel great, lean, retaining muscle, good libido.It's becoming normal for any active guy who cares about health/quality of life over 40. Guys openly talk about it at my gym. No shame... declining T with age is a fact of life, TRT solves that problem. Just keep up with regular bloodwork to make sure everything on point.
young boxing hey this is a little off topic, but I figured I’d ask. I’m assuming you’re from the uk based on how you talk and I have always wondered what rate means. Like “they don’t rate you”
It’s a heart rate competition though so technically he has to do way more exercise to get his heart rate up so it’s not like the competition is horribly unbalanced
It’s called replament for a reason , trt brings you back to what a normal standard should be not at a insane steroid level. Dealing with unknown anxiety because of low T , trt has made my life 💯 better , in great shape and making more money than I ever have . I’m with Rogan!
@@himboslice_ You can't get on it unless your levels are low at least from most doctors. I assumed people just did it because they had low Testosterone. People on TRT dont some to respond much better in the gym than guys with normal levels from what I have seen though. Now juice is a whole different story.
@@heuvelke1065 Thats great if that’s true but this is just your assumption unless you have bloodwork done on every Man you know or somehow know what’s going on with them internally. Most men hide or ignore their weaknesses vs embrace them and find ways to overcome them. All the best
@@himboslice_ most Drs. Don’t know what they are doing , they jump into it because of money so you get cookie cutter protocols. It’s important to do your research independently and consult with a good Dr that knows their stuff.
I’m 25 and suffered with low T my whole life so I decided on TRT and my life is SOOO SOOO much better. I’m more happy I’m more confident it’s fuckin awesome.
I actually suffered from depression for many years. I started counseling and she recommended me to get my levels checked. I was tested and my testosterone was low. I started shots and my depression went way
Just turned 50 and I started on testosterone about 9 months ago. Blood work showed levels were practically non-existent on my own and I was feeling it. Hard time waking up and getting through the days. I work out 5 days a week. It became a struggle to get up and go and there were no gains at that point. This has made a huge difference. I sleep better, feel better, have a more clear and positive outlook, and I have energy to get up and hit the gym and look better now than I did 5 years ago. I would absolutely recommend it to anyone over 40 for sure.
Just got mine tested and mine was 78 I feel absolutely horrible all the time fall asleep every time I sit down started the cream 3 weeks ago I'm hoping to start feeling better soon
@@BAR-ct7ti of course you do! There is no way you can just cheat your way into something. It simply doesn’t work that way. For example street drugs make you feel great for a while and you can even lose ton of weight. But we all know what happens once you get into withdrawal phase
@@chriseaton7887 How are you now?? I'm 41 and tested at 188 in 2021 and last week tested at 88. Started on the gel this morning myself. I don't care about looks, I just want to feel better like I used to! I literally struggled to get through each day at work, then would go home & struggle to stay awake. Just felt sluggish all of the time, felt depressed, and just had such a bad outlook on everything.
I'm 56, and just got tested. Mine is down to 230. It's no wonder why I feel like shit. I can't wait to get my cream prescription. The doc also ordered desiccated thyroid as well.
@Origin It doesnt work like that at all. I know people on TRT and they dont look any younger lol. Dont act like it's something its not. It's false advertising to people who don't know any better. People on cycle of steroids like far older than their age if anything, not that TRT does that, but it def doesnt make you look younger anyway. You might feel younger if your levels were low before though.
@@billj4525 You're also wrong bud, i know of many cases in which TRT combined with MANY other pre-requisites, parallele factors/variables, et al.....has 60s men in our respective socities look, feel & sorta be like if they're in their 40s now.
@@commentscopyrightattorney5543 i’d say 100 too 250mg a week sus 250, but if you wanna get jacked 500mg to 1ml a week of sus, but you gonna be fighting estrogen at that level 250 mg a week you should be fine withou side effects, and will give you a good amount of T in the body
@@aliabdelaziz7585 Also the misconception you need steroids to be jacked. Their are naturals more jacked than dudes on steroids all over the place, although its rare, but with good genes compared to a juicer with bad genes it happens all the time.
Powerlifter, weight lifter, 315lbs, 6'2". ED issues requested a testerone blood test. Blood test completed. Met doc(female). Asked doc what my T level was, was told that was unimportant but need to discuss what was found. I had a 7.6 A1c level diagnosed type 2 diabetic, high cholesterol, fatty liver disease, high blood pressure. I was depressed, lethargic, ED issues. Started popping crazy meds, weight didn't decrease, depression set in. Started regiment of TRT, 4 months in dropped A1c from 7.6 to 6.1. Doc asked what I was doing, said diet excercise. No mention of TRT. Blood tests are all positive, reversal of fatty liver, blood pressure normal numbers. Crazy
*BOOM* My doc isn't going to prescribe that to me *lol* I've looked at different websites too. So much info and simply *NO ONE* will tell you what to take or what website. I find it all hilarious. Makes me think that no one is really even taking it because NO ONE will tell you what website and how much to take. ha!
I am 56 and i'm on testosterone replacement therapy.For those who think it is dangerous and unhealthy your clueless,Having low testosterone can have terrible health effects along with low testosterone is high estrogen which can and will cause a whole lot of issues.I go through a doctor and i get blood work every 6 to 10 weeks.
Unfortunately my insurance didn't cover it so I had to go thru a very good clinic and I pay 340 every 10 weeks for my testosterone hcg and arimidex its not that bad.I was probably better off any because a reg doctor isn't to verse on trt most think being at 200 to 300 ngl is ok.These primary doctors are a joke.
As a guy who took a headshot which wrecked his endocrine system, depo T has been needed by my body since high school. Thanks for the objective info for the masses.
I've never been in any competitive sports, but always enjoyed nutrition, clean living, and keeping up on good nutrition. I am really focused and aware of hormone levels and balance. I'm gonna be 58 years old in April; many say I look 10 years younger. I can't really remember how great I felt when I was in my 20s, but sometimes, do to my lack of nutritional knowledge and overtraining at the time, I had some pretty low and unenergetic times. If I remember correctly, I actually feel better now than I did in my 20s. That could be owed to the fact that I am very health conscious and know a hell of a lot about nutrition and exercise. I'm not a huge guy, but look great for a person who only uses nutrition, sleep, stress management, and exercise with proper recuperation between work outs. I gauge my hormone levels on sex drive and morning wood. Things that I have noticed in age: Sex drive can change drastically from week to week due to sleep and/or stress levels. When I was younger, it didn't matter. When I went through a devastating life issue, I lost all sex drive for two or three months; that would never happen if I was 20 yrs old. I have to eat properly to keep my sex drive up. Raw vegetables and "root" type plants are a requirement for higher hormones; not so at 20 yrs old. I am a firm believer in keeping things natural. I have always maintained my physique. In the last 3 years I have been working out and trying to gain muscle. Although I have always gained very slowly, no matter what age, I am able to gain about 1 lb to 2lb per year lately which is added to lagging areas. I owe this to a very strict diet. In short, I like to do what I can while I am able to do it naturally. When I stop being able to naturally enjoy the pleasures of sex, and I start feeling the effects of a low hormonal level, at that time I would definitely look at TRT. I feel that putting it off for as long as possible is the better way to go. I just feel that there is so much you can do with your lifestyle to keep your hormone levels high and balanced. I fukng love these podcasts. You have some great guests that have awesome information.
I have been feeling so terrible lately. (Couple years now) finally got blood work done and my testosterone levels were 184. 😭 Stress has been killing me like a mfr. I’m 25yrs old. Might get onto trt. I use to workout, now I have no energy to do anything in life really.
He's on on TRT man, that barely bring his levels above natural men. It doesnt matter though because not even guys on tons and tons of juice can recover from that properly. Who said he was recovering? No one could recover from that. Ask guys on heavy juice and they will tell u the same thing. You have to keep in mind this was competition so natural or not you do what you have to do to win if you want to win badly. It depends what you do during the workouts too though.
Joe is absolutely right, I'm on TRT for the last 7 months and I feel so good, when I stopped it, I felt like 70-80 years old man, joint pain, constantly tired, zero energy, high blood pressure, zero sex drive. But before you start, do all tests first 👌
@@krayziejerry my blood pressure went down on TRT ,my cholesterol is normal but it all depends what you eat , testosterone can increase bad cholesterol ,but I'm taking very low doses of test which is 0.3 (90mg of test) every 10 days
Brk please help I'm 27 and my total test came back at 390, my uncle which is 55 had 520 total test higher higher me and I sleep good no drugs work out 5 times a week
But yet no one responded to you in two years, you could be dead now for all we know lol - Why is that NO ONE simply tells others what website to go too and how much to take? That's why I believe many of these comments are bull crap or Ai. lol
Jo is straight up telling the truth. I am not on TRT but have been in the past. And the amount of energy was astronomical, not to mention my body looked so much better.
It makes a huge difference. I was ridiculously sick. I lost 9 kilos over 2 weeks. My father in law saw me and I was told he cried half of the way home at how weak and sick I looked. Over the past 10 days I have been on the mend and using 120mg. Andriol testocaps daily, and the difference is astounding. I am still weak and thin compared to what I was pre sickness. However, I am looking more like the healthy me every day. I am 60.
@@ZenCenterUpaya Thanks for the concern. I am 100%. Only drag is I cannot augment my body with the testosterone. As I have returned to the US and we are not allowed to do what we want with our bodies. We have to get a doctor's prescription. Madness.. As I am fit, they say "no need." I wish all the best for you and yours.
@@chrisweidner4768 bro, just go to a different doctor or look for an online TRT clinic. It shouldnt be that hard to find someone who will prescribe it to you.
@@ZenCenterUpayaI’m 65 and doing great. Back in the USA and taking care of my dad. It’s disappointing because the VA won’t let me take anything. Saying my natural level is fine/ sigh. This is a frustration living in the USA. We don’t have access to things that are available globally to enhance the quality of life. Wishing you the best.
The stigma thing is real, I am on trt at the age of 29 and I felt bad or less man. Now that my levels are normal I am unstoppable, this message should be said more often.
I just started it today at 28 y/o, but I've been in the process of diagnosis for 3 years (NHS is slow). I'm looking forward to seeing how it affects me, on 140mg per week.
All true. I was below 300 and now am at normal levels. Body feels amazing... confident, strong, deeper sleep, no depression or low mood, no grumps, improved libido... list goes on. Sucks people who are not low abuse it for those that need it to live. It is what it is.
I’ve been taking alot of zinc and magnesium with boron lately and it really gave my testosterone a boost too.. i’m still 28 but i felt like a 50 year old last 3 years. I’ve been megadosing on b-vitamins and minerals and it helped ALOT.
He gave them his doctors number as if that would allow them to all be on an even playing field and then went on to say it's a many month process, so gear up for next sober October because TRT Joe was in full effect this October
After 10 years of only cardio and push-ups, got tested. Total Test 340, free test 7.5. Got on a protocol 6 weeks ago of 200mg of test, 50IU HCG and a aromatase inhibitor. Unreal. Lifting again.
Joe man I totally agree with you. I am in my early 40’s and since this coronavirus shit I have quit smoking and cut back on the drinking and I feel great. You got do the process of elimination before committing to TRT. I am glad you explained that to your audience and the stigma that comes with it. See that folks is responsible broadcasting. Kudos Joe 👍
You have to train properly as well. Lifting heavy and training to failure often is a recipe for messed-up joints, adrenal and CNS fatigue, and burnout.
@@heuvelke1065 Right on. Def safer for sure but I would recommend avoiding failure and increasing your training frequency for each muscle group and you may be surprised at the results. Try it out for 4 weeks and see what you think.
I think a lot of successful men have used testosterone and it’s a big reason they’re where they are. The rock is a good example. I think it not just helps the body but the mind, and helps with confidence. I’ve seen a lot of dudes on testosterone that seem to have a mental edge.
Yeah, but he's on a dangerous level of steroids at his size. What your saying is dangerous mentioning the Rock. When people cycle hormones at high doses like that it ruins them instead of improves them. I mean look at all the bodybuilders that have died recently, its nuts, and the stuff very obviously kills and a lot of the times at young age. I think in low doses like TRT their could be some truth to what you said, but The Rock is not a good example.
I've never understood why there is so much stigma around TRT. Why is it controversial for someone with low T to get therapeutic doses to get into the normal range without being labeled a cheater or a roid head? Either you take T or suffer from severe depression and mental/physical ailments or feel like a normal healthy man. I don't understand why it's banned in sports either if the levels are in the normal range. It's like telling someone with cerebral palsy they can't get corrective surgery or they're a cheater.
Drs in Canada don't think twice about prescribing hormones to teenage girls to keep them from getting pregnant yet for a man to get TRT from your Dr is damn near impossible
Anyone with depression at any age should always get bloodwork done first. Check test/hormones and vitamin levels and start with diet and exercise. Then after 3 months check again and add meds/testosterone if needed. Hormones save lives! 🍻
