Got in an argument on Instagram for some spicy criticisms. In a heated exchange a girl said to me "we are not individuals". That's equally Montypython-esque and terrifying.
@@cbalan777 I think you might be misunderstood. The girl in the heated exchange said "we're NOT individuals". It being 'heated', I thought it would be obvious that I think the opposite. I agree with you.
@@cbalan777 did you even watch the video? he explained there is no autonomous individual in the post modern. it's all identity of the group and power. you don't exist.
There's a witch hunt against anyone who doesn't publicly acknowledge and accept the BLM movement. These are Communist China tactics. We're going to make you believe or you will be destroyed.
daryl foster Black life matters but I don’t believe in defunding the police. I will only believe in defunding the police, if we legalize and tax drugs. In that case we wouldn’t need to defund the police. They will defund themselves as their jobs won’t be needed.
@@ShawnWeeded510 She was talking about something far more deeper than that. About the left is going more extreme in their idea of freedom. About the grooming of transgender kids, while they are still not in the age of being able to properly make decisions for themselves, about the rising number of these kids chosing to detransition, causing much more delirious harm to their mental health states throughout the journey. There is also an issue of transgenders who were born male and had spent quite a while living in a fully formed male body, after transitioning went on and participating in women's category, beating the crap of everybody else. (A woman boxer cracked her skull after fighting a trans opponent). She is only trying to safeguard women and children.
When one says. “What protesters do isn’t thought out.” That statement itself is not well analyzed. How can the misinformed, ignorant, and clearly oppressed even begin to have an attempt at correctly analyzing a situation when they aren’t given any real information, any real freedom, or any real rights.
So true! Have you ever seen reporters interview protesters? They can't even articulate what they are protesting about. Also, they are dumbfounded when confronted by the facts. It's crazy...
Damn, I never thought about it like that. A quick path to virtue. It goes in line with the instant gratification culture we have. Damn Mr Peterson........ Insightful.
Lol in recent days, the Museum of African-American History and Culture put out an exhibit, on their website, that says delayed gratification, hard-work, and individualism are products of “whiteness,” and should be rejected by persons of color. Should be an interesting couple of years ahead of us... (:
@@lorentacla9740 I just want to confirm this and ask you... Is what you just said even remotely true? That _delayed gratification, hard-work, and individualism are products of "whiteness" and should be rejected by persons of color_ was actually an idea expressed and associated with a cultural exhibit?
It's actually worse than that. Instant gratification as far as virtue signaling but moreover, it's become a socially acceptable avenue to release pent up personal frustrations and aggressions without any fear of social backlash from the masses. You can just get comfortably lost in the crowd and commit acts of violence and destruction with relative assurance that you won't even suffer legal consequences.
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Just wait until it merges with your brain and the algorithm gets to think for you by controlling your perception of reality and information you receive.
30 70 gotta catch them off guard, but also this technology is legitimately being invested in and people like Elon Musk and big tech giants are working on AI brain implementation as we speak. He’s openly admitted it.
Is it a good algorithm? Cause all you're being fed are videos of things you agree with. Which you may think is good until you realize that the people you disagree with are also only being fed videos that they agree with. The algorithm keeps us in our silos.
Early exposure theory would support everybody being an activist however because if that one post can reach one person (especially young people) you may actually have a subconscious effect on their tendencies towards things such as racism. I think this has an inverse effect on some adults who get pissed off about seeing 'them damn liberals' but for every one of them theres probably 5 who support it or who will be subversively effected.
@Georg Tolstoj I see your point, but I think what you're referring to is clicktavism not activism. One thing I admire about JP is his likening for civil dialogue, and is not peaceful protesting a form of civil dialogue? What about protestors with a plan? Everyone hates on Greta Thunberg but she had plans behind her speeches towards cleaner energy and more environmentally friendly practices. To state that its empty talk is very nihilistic as the only reason it won't work is because the companies refuse to listen or change. So does that mean you just give up and succumb to authority?
@@Comicgamerkids Im not talking about pointless activism im talking about organised protest with a goal. Ideology works to make the hegemony seem 'natural' and make all other forms of ideology seem unable to work. Its just not true, looking back on history protests are a huge part of what changed society to influence politicians and change the hegemony. Martin Luther King, May 68 in France, New Zealand just had many anti armed police protests and emails and our armed forces program just finished.
Joe misunderstands Jordan’s initial statement. Jordan is characterizing the incentives that lead to activist behavior, not the self conscious justification an activist uses to explain themselves. It is not that activists secretly don’t care about saving the world, they really do care (most anyway), but it’s easy convince yourself that protesting qualifies as saving the world because protesting doesn’t require much work and it’s socially validating, whereas the alternative of actually saving the world, or holding yourself to high moral standards, is quite difficult and daunting. Just like a person who can’t lose weight will drink diet soda, but remain sedentary, or “reward” themselves too often, undoing any progress they’ve made. The point is that your own mind is capable of pulling a fast one on you. If you decide to do something that conflicts with your habitual behavior, your mind will conspire to keep things working as usual. One way is to give you false victories, so that you can keep all your bad habits but make you feel as if you’ve satisfied your will to change at the same time. A protestor wants to change the world, but they usually don’t have the skill to do anything but express discontent, so their mind convinced them that this does the trick anyway, and they get to carry on with their unproductive lifestyle, while telling themselves that they are fighting for freedom and justice.
A very brilliant statement. As I read your words, I remembered a few people complaining about why the world doesn't have electric airplanes yet, because according to them jets pollute motherloads (which is true). I will take them seriously if: 1) they stop taking further flights altogether. 2) they start working on their careers centred on building electrically propelled aircraft (by which they will realise why humans don't have them now)
I was going to slag you about getting your own damned podcast...then i finished reading your post... Well said. You actually should get your own podcast
Same here brother... it’s 90% of the media & 5% of the population that are wreaking havoc. The rest of us just want to work & take care of the ones we love, we have more in common than what we’re being told.
talk about hitting the nail on the head. Apparently Seattle's autonomous zone already has a warlord, could be bullshit but still. I find it genuinely mind boggling that A LOT of people think getting rid of the po po is a good idea. Like I don't want to sound uncharitable here, but we need a cull. In fact getting rid of the po po will create a cull XD
I completely get where he’s coming from. Ppl want to belong to a social group so bad they’re willing to dismiss facts in order to be on a winning side. We need more strong minded individuals. The Left doesn’t have all the answers neither does the Right.
Comic Book Man I don’t want a “side” at all. I am me; that is enough. That is the starting point. I am responsible for my own actions. That doesn’t mean I’m not affected by outside forces: I’m subject to all kinds of persuasion and manipulation. But it is my duty as a man, as a human being, to fight tyranny, fight injustice, and fight malevolent thoughts and words, and bring about truth, love, and justice. It starts with me. Hopefully others out there feel the same way. I think it’s the only way we will be able to combat this identity ideology. Everyone feels safe in their little box. Well, step out of the box and I think you’ll see the world for what it is. Suffering. It’s up to us to fix it, or at least make it better.
I think this comes back to human need for community. Most humans would find community in church gatherings, sport teams, music bands, etc. But for some people they are so starved of their need for community that they will join any group regardless of the nature of the group. I think a part of the solution is that WE reach out to them with compassion to show them that they don't need to be SJW, radical lefts, or Antifa to fullfil their need for community. WE will help a fellow human in need folks!
I think we forget jp was never really in this chamber of politics and cultural debates. He's a psychologist and that has always been what his main focus was on. He got caught up in this mad realm and briefly talked about cultural issues and science for a while. I hope he comes back too, but as of now, it seems psychology is back to being his main focus
Ryan Gen Well, I don’t necessarily think a comment section is the best platform for trying to break down Marx’s terms but when you start talking about “false consciousness” and “grounded reality”, it is immediately apparent that there is such a broad spectrum these kind of concepts can encompass that you can hardly have the conversation without it turning into the shit you see out in the streets today. The way I see it, we struggle in general to define ideas like “consciousness” and “reality”, now we are going to follow an ideology that doubles down on how these things are defined by large groups or populations. I find it to be very misleading. Sure, Marx wasn’t completely wrong that people fall into subordinate modes of consciousness and end up being ruled by ideas they are fed from, and exploited with, from those with money and power, still, it isn’t like you can just form mobs of people to oppose the “bourgeoisie” as if it going to accomplish anything better. Look at history, look at what’s happening today. Marx wasn’t necessarily wrong in concept, but in reality his concepts, when put into action, are far worse than anything that is already happening. It’s unfortunate but true. When it comes down to it, Marxism put into action has far worse consequences than its opposite. In fact, I would argue that it breeds the same thing it is supposed to be against orders of magnitude. That’s why I called it word salad, because it is easy to make it sound really good but terms like “grounded reality” and “material realism” don’t mean shit when you actually have to be able to apply the concept to the real world. Edit: apologies if sentence structure leaves a bit to be desired. It’s 1 am on a Friday and I’ve had a few cocktails. 🤷♂️
Minimalism These terms are just as manipulative as the oppressors they are supposedly against. All you have to do is look at how “Marxists” conduct themselves in the world and you’ll know all you need to know. I don’t care if Engels himself made up the term “false consciousness”, It’s a means of manipulating the working class people into action for the purpose of overthrowing government. I don’t give a shit about what the ideology says, I give a shit about what it does. Historically, their track record speaks for itself. Marxism spurs the oppressed masses into action against the oppressor ruling class and once they’ve accomplished their goals what happens? A fate worse than the one they started in is what happens. Also, grounded reality isn’t a term at all. Are you talking about grounded theory? Again, the Marxist doctrines May very well say this is what they believe, but this isn’t how they act. Unless of course they are willing to manipulate and use the gay and transsexual communities against their beliefs, in order to accomplish their goals. Then what happens to those groups that their ideology is against, which they have teamed up with, once the goal is accomplished? There’s is a wealth of historical literature that can tell you what happens to them afterward. In practice, Marxists are equally as bad as the oppressive ruling class as far as I’m concerned. I don’t give a shit how wide ranging some of these terms are, They’re manipulative. Are you sure it is only the ruling class that is doing the brainwashing? Because it appears to me that both sides participate in manipulating the masses in the same way. In fact, maybe you’ve been hoodwinked. Even right now, we have black lives matter, a Marxist organization, manipulating the people using their emotions over racist and sexist oppression in order to create chaos and destabilization. Time will tell what these people truly want. Unfortunately, we are on a path where we might just find out.
@@lordbunbury Nah, everyone will die. Has nothing to do whether or not he follows his own words. He's just in a natural cycle of life. You, I, him (and everyone) will go downhill from here in the physical aspects of everything.
Jordan Peterson is the man people without a basic knowledge of history find convincing. He’s a charlatan who uses rhetorical tricks and an authoritative speaking affect to deliver a conservative message that seems to people who don’t understand that they are conditioned to think conservatively Bc it doesn’t upset the status quo of an exploitative system. I think he’s prob lulled himself into this view as well, but you only need to glance at his actual work to understand what a precarious mess of bullshit his worldview is built upon. ‘Dragon of chaos.’ GTFO. The man doesn’t even have a basic understanding of Marx. Neither do any of you. Someone on here thinks Marx ‘tried’ communism. Do you even know what that means? Marx didn’t ‘try’ communism. He was a historian, philosopher, and an economic analyst. But JR bringing on charlatans is nothing knew, that’s basically what he does when it’s not a comedian. Anyways, you’re all being had by a snake oil salesman. This man went on an all meat diet. Jesus.
The United States was made on protest, anyone who has any kind of rights has them because of protest. Having said that i will add if you're out there protesting at least know the argument, or what you are protesting .
ahrar corson that’s not true. The constitution was written by people who subscribe to natural law. John Locke, Immanuel Kant, etc. The founding fathers and men who wrote the constitution and “protested” against Britain did so because of the tyrant across the lake. If you want to paint order with a bad brush by calling it “control” be my guess... but when your life is marked by chaos, perhaps you may come to understand that control is no all that bad. With respect, your understanding of what happened in the 18th century is reduced a good bit. That being said, I don’t even agree with them! I believe that autonomy is problematic.
@@Parks179-h This civilisation they have created is called slavery. Why bother to participate with what's going on across the lake? Why steal oil from the East? US created 'chaos' and it aint ever going away.
9:01 The authenticity of his response just blows my mind. I wish I knew people who could be real like that. It's lonely af out here with all these ghetto robots.
@@thepolitea1545 yeah, people who are blank but for what they are programmed to be. Tv and music and such. No one is there own person anymore. Peterson talks about people being their "ideology" all the time, that's basically what it is. Everyone is this group or that group, no one is an individual, like a robot, just some program. Ghetto because they are proud to be basic, hence, "ghetto robot." Just what I call them anyway. Feel free to spread it around, I think it sums up people pretty damn good.
@@thepolitea1545 yeah, people who are blank but for what they are programmed to be. Tv and music and such. No one is there own person anymore. Peterson talks about people being their "ideology" all the time, that's basically what it is. Everyone is this group or that group, no one is an individual, like a robot, just some program. Ghetto because they are proud to be basic, hence, "ghetto robot." Just what I call them anyway. Feel free to spread it around, I think it sums up people pretty damn good.
damn when he said radical postmodernists think there is no “you”, but you are completely socially constructed... i never thought ab that pov but that’s totally true of them.
Beats By Rooz i believe the disdain for people who subscribe to that belief stems from the fact that, although the idea is somewhat true, there will always be an excuse. in jail? it’s not your fault, the system is against you. can’t get out of poverty? not your fault, you weren’t raised well enough to understand how to get yourself out. it is true to some degree, but if you subscribe to the idea that there is no “you”, you will always be a victim of your environment, and you will never have to take responsibility for your own actions.
@ジョージ様 I think the idea of hard-determinism (no "free will") is completely correct from a metaphysical/philosophical point of view. But the retort I would put to it is: "ok? and...?" There's a limit and line to be drawn as to how much we actually care about those ideas. If you told me I have no free will, what am I supposed to do with that information?
I’m always hesitant to label anyone a “genius.” I’m not even sure I know what the term means. But after a couple of years of listening to JBP, I think he’s probably one.
Such a genius he landed himself in rehab after shitting on people with addictions. Yeah such a genius that he almost died because he tried some alternative rehab to what was recommended to him.
Yaz, you define “genius” as having a quality of infallibility? The definition I guess I might subscribe to is “an exceptionally intelligent person or one with exceptional skill in a particular area of activity.” For me, personally, JBP more than meets that. I missed his hypocritically “shitting on” addicts, although I fail to see how hypocrisy would negate genius categorization. Can you easily find the link?
Yaz, ya I generally agree. But I almost never affix the term to anyone. I love music by Thom Yorke and Trent Reznor and a lot of people call them both geniuses; I wouldn’t use the word. Just saying, after years of not rushing to it, I think JBP is probably in the genius zone. His intellectual and analytical instincts are so incisive and counter to the intuition of the masses, that I don’t really have another word for it. Also, the categorization doesn’t matter and it was just a personal observation.
@@markoates9057 he was on the podcast of his lovely very hot daughter recently so I guess you could say hes better. Tho he didnt seemed really healthy and he is looking twice his age now.
It's amazing how coherent and popular he is while in the throes of an active Klonopin addiction spanning 2017-2020! Wondering how he will answer to the choices made that led to an out of control addiction no different from thousands of others who simply own up to it, detox, and carry on.
Why not take another angle, people DO care about the issues they protest but the 9-5, 5-6 day work week leaves people with very little energy to stand for the things they care for? Conveniently for the institutions and corporations that have been running amuck for so long.
The people who run countries have ancient knowledge of civilization. They already know all the tactics of controlling populations of people and the psychology of the average peasant.
I had a guy tell me the other day that “There is no individual, there is only the collective.” I was totally floored and instantly enraged, because he was so upfront and confident to say something that bold. How in the hell could you think youre progressive while standing in the face of individuality?
I call bullshit on someone telling you that unless they were literally just quoting a communist ideology. Ask them if everything they do is for the greater good ("the greater good").
Anyone claiming that sort of bullshit probably hasn't achieved anything noteworthy in their own lives. It's the only way that idea can survive in your head: when there's nothing about you you're proud of. The moment you were faced with some sort of obstacle that you could not have overcome if you only relied on your collective (which does exist, it's just not the only thing that does) to lift you over it, you become concious of the fact that what you do or don't do makes a difference. Which is where the idea of "collective only" dies.
@@didinx8417 exactly what i thought when i saw that 😂😂😂😂 i wondered did he finish that bold statement with that even more ominous "resistance is futile".
Years ago, Saul Alinski knew that communism would eventually be accepted in America if his supporters dropped the word "communist" and replaced it with "progressive". He was right.
Yaz guys who quote Jordan Peterson fuck hots girls 30% more then men who do not quote JBP. Always know the arithmetic, find out the percentile. Something Dr. Peterson taught me. ✅
exactly. These 'activists' that care more for the rapid reopening of business than the health of their community is blatant selfishness. However, the people that are taking a stance on someone being murdered on film is something worth shouting about.
Not really. They're talking about people protesting during people's speeches and protesting inside private institutions and virtue signaling. The current protests arent really doing that. They have a clear message of being pro police accountability and anti-police brutality, along with anti-racism. Not really a fair comparison
@John Smith ah yes, the protesters are doing that. Keep regurgitating the vomit the media pours down your throat. Imagine denying systemic racism. Nice troll
This man needs to seriously consider starting a political party. I genuinely think he would win by a landslide. Kill everything with logic and honest truths.
Well but you have a democratic system, if even people are impulsive and emotion driven, there won’t be anything you can do since it’s just a game of numbers and power.
@@buckib03 not a good comparison because JP is already a well known public figure. The real problem is irresponsible people wouldn't vote to take responsibility. Also I've witnessed women listen to a few media, cherry picked sound bites and they assume he is a misogynist and intolerant. The odds are not in favor of logic.
@@hanoitripper1809 Wife had liver cancer, was terminal, got on clonazepam to cope with watching his wife die, (they've known each other since they were 6), she ended up pulling through, but apparently with Jordan's auto-immune problems (riddled in the family) he's had a very bad reaction to coming off the drug, currently in Russia seeing a specialist. This has been going for a while now, maybe even a year?
I’m in university rn, and I can promise you what he’s saying about the sociologist and postmodernist perspective is very true. I haven’t read every little detail about them, not the extent he has, but the center of their philosophy deals with Power. Every sociology chapter I read and arguments made had to do with power. Additionally the idea that nearly everything in existence and the way we operate is a social construct. Maybe some acknowledge psychology and biology more than others. But without a doubt they believe our beings and identity are predominantly socially constructed. You’re not an individual with ideas your a shell whose identity is solely shaped by your “groups”. Which isn’t completely wrong, but they fixate on race gender sexually etc . That’s why they hate straight white men so much. Because, statistically they have all the power. Not that white men haven’t done bad things historically, but they attach every white man to those atrocities and furthermore want the power for themselves. Which is a selfish and egotistical mindset, believing if they have the “power” things will change. Scary to think what they would do with that power with all the hatred and anger they harbor.
In our society today protest is the sincerest form of privilege. If you have the time; ability and safety to protest whatever/whenever, you are a privileged individual.
He's a bit of a hypocrite on this though. I do think JP is a very smart man but but his position on activism is flawed. He's like paranoid of the pink haired lesbians or something (understandingly) but what about the people protesting wars? Or foreign trade policies such as the ones seen in Seattle? How about respecting the people taking responsibility and actively trying to bring people together to bring awareness and change to things that can't be fixed through private actions. And the fact that you just spew that nonsense out shows that your still not thinking for yourself. Still when it comes to self therapy JP is one of the best mentors. For foreign policy I'd recommend looking at figures such as Noam Chomsky.
@@kingkoi6542 I don't know... I don't think I'd consider it hypocritical unless he was going out and protesting while complaining about protesting... That said, most people are hypocrites anyway, so I try not to worry about it too much. To be fair, while protests can be good in certain areas, I don't think that necessarily makes him wrong about things like many protesters' subconscious motivations and so on... Even the generally good people do what they think is right partially out of self-gratification... When you feel happy or satisfied about something you did, that's pretty much just you tricking your subconscious/whatever into rewarding you with pleasure for being what you subconsciously see as right/good... Or maybe I'm just talking rubbish because I'm sleepy... Maybe both.
King Koi well, I think it’s fair to say he’s not talking about every person in every protest. I mean, of course there are protests that are necessary, what I think it’s the problem are protestors that don’t allow dialogue to occur. What I think would be an ideal outcome of a protest is appropriate authorities approach the ideas being contested and and assembly of a discussion on the matter in order to take action, accompanied by assurances and consequences, much like a contract. But some people (the more radical ones) don’t want to do that, they don’t wanna find understanding and a middle ground. That’s what comes across as hypocritical on the part of some protestors, and in a way, they end up betraying their own message. That’s what I think at least... but I’m well aware that this almost never happens nowadays.
What is the Radical Deep state? Omg I could not disagree with Peterson more if he agrees what he is saying. If he is saying it just to describe post - modernism than ok. I am deeply intellectual and philosophical as well. But I met a guru from India and the power of the individual is EVRRYTHING! All other 'realities' are DARKNESS. The individual lives in the Light! You don't have to be "Christian" to believe in Jesus and that love and light and the individual are ALL. EVERYTHING!!!!
@@shawnr7730 doesn't surprise me to find you trolling here too. Your ignorance is only surpassed by the low self esteem oozing through your comments. It's ok. It's not your fault. Hey. It's. Not. Your. Fault.
I think that what they end up agreeing on is that protesting to the point of destroying free speech is the problem. In regards to his first part about ACTIVISTS though, some protesters in history have done some pretty great things with their idealistic views of helping the world. Civil Rights Movement and Martin Luther King, to name someone more recent.
He does this a lot. He tries to make attention grabbing statements and then work off of the argument by either doubling down or changing his words without acceding that the other person may be right. He chooses his attitude based on his liking of the person. Which is fair. What infuriates me is that he flips flops on his logic so much and claims monopoly on objective individuality whilst being an incendiary generalist. As in this video, he espouses free speech and engaging in dialogue as opposed to just getting the last word- show me one place where he has done that?
There’s an interesting thread on reddit (search for “peterson Derrida” and it comes up) which discusses Peterson’s potential misconstruction of post-modernism (or more accurately post-structuralism). It’s not anti-Peterson, but it discusses the claims he makes here about post-modernism in detail.
This is an incredibly articulate assessment of the current consequence of ideas. Agree with him or not, he made his case in a well thought out and succinct manner. It demands a counter agreement equal to his detailed critique, rather than a pejorative slur.
Shitting on thoughts and opinions that differ from your own is the exact reason society is becoming more and more divided. Just because it's sunny at your house doesn't mean it's not raining at someone else's house...metaphorically speaking. The point playing out in these comments proves that it is less and less about rational discussion and more about one side gaining superiority over the other. When the dialog devolves into name calling and insults, it shows that dominating the other is more important than the original point they are trying to make.
Suq Madiq humans are animals. Our primal instincts are what drive us, end of story. To believe that there is something different between us and any other animal is just human arrogance.
Let's hope Jordan Peterson recovers from his illness so he can continue his great work in waking people up and helping young men and women to realise their potential
Mk. 5 he’s a troll don’t waste your time on him. Clearly he’s a sad little man in his mother’s basement spewing hate and resentment for the smallest amount of attention he can get online that he can’t in real life cos he’s most likely a virgin hunchback with teeth like burnt fence posts that gets laughed at by everyone else.
Mk. 5 he’s a junkie ‘cause he kept taking them even after finding out the truth about his family situation. Lots of people deal with family member terminal illnesses without getting hooked on shit, but he chose that path to keep up his Deepak Chopra lifestyle. For someone who prides themselves in “cleaning up your act and don’t make up excuses” he sure likes to come up with some. And both of you are pathetic. Some sad attempt to psycho analyze about how another man is a hunchback who disagrees with their daddy is the most hilarious Peterson fan stereotype anyone could play.
JC Not you’re typing unnecessary essays nobody asked for endlessly on RU-vid videos🤣🤣🤣unfortunately for you I don’t need to psycho analyse you to be able to tell you’re a loser lololol imagine being that sad🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
3:10 This. Most big issues are extremely complexed with multiple contributing factors each influencing each other. If you speak to an activist who is not technically inclined, they only shout about the problem but have no idea how to fix it in a practical way.
This video was made in the past talking about today's protestors. Today's protesting is not about BLM. It is all about Left-Progressive POWER! Jordan Peterson is amazing and sees much clearer and just than others!!!👍🏻
He is describing the NPC meme as it applies to Marxist Post-Modernists, SJWs, Communists, and modern American millenial liberal arts students. Spot-on.
I dislike protesters of any shade. I recall, during my uni days, that all the protesting types were big *talkers/shouters* , but did little else other than *whine* about stuff they wanted others to do. We used to nickname them Soap-Dodgers due to their poor hygiene... *Protesters in a nutshell:* 1. There's a huge crisis! 2. Somebody else is to blame! (just not us) 3. Somebody else needs to do something about it! (just not us) 4. Somebody else needs to pay for it! (just not us) 5. We'll all shout and scream like babies to mommy/teacher/government until the scary problem goes away; or alternatively lie in a foetal position... Then pretend we achieved something! I would really love to know the genuine, evidence-based, concrete actions each of the protesters is taking, in their own lives, to do their own bit. But I bet most of them didn't even make their own bed in the morning...
“It’s hard to make things work better, it’s easy to make things work worse.” Remember that when you think disbanding law enforcement will solve every problem.
Stev Sux What’s interesting is how much of a political game “disband police” has become. It’s remarkable. “Disband” no longer means what the word’s definition indicates it means. It is simply a means to an end, something for the left to spew at folks to make it look like they’re trying to solve the problem. If I don’t know what I’m talking about and I haven’t researched what “disband police” actually means does that make me an idiot or does that make you disingenuous? There are thousands of individuals who want to disband police, who am I to say if they’re wrong or right? All I can do is respectfully disagree. My issue is the politicians who are using those folks plus this moment in time as an opportunity to gain political leverage. Solving the problem of police brutality and racial profiling is now secondary to the objective of advancing political agendas for upcoming elections. It’s sad to see what the left is doing, they are being disingenuous towards their voters and the worst part is they know they can get away with it because they’ve already fooled their base. But hey, that’s politics! Solving problems is never the primary objective.
@UCzW5LPMiPBdmJlpq3mdGVqA "defunding" the police is absolutely and utterly moronic. if anything the police needs more money to integrate specially trained personal to deal with those kinds of situations / better train all personal for those situations. to even consider leaving those situations to for profit organizations making them suspect to the necessity of generating profit margins is BEYOND ME. o am german so i might have gotten some shit wrong but i think that is what you suggested?
@@MrMCKlebeband I say for profit because there are little to no government ran mental health based places, most in the US are for profit and are expensive with no insurance coverage. If people were to push legislation that the government would run it or at least have restrictions on I'd definitely support it. To your idea that you don't defund the police, you increase funding and make specialized units for different procedures that's essentially what the goal is, the problem in the US is the current system doesn't support it due to police unions stopping nearly any attempts at change and the fact training to become an officer is laughably simple and easy, so they'd have to go through and reapply and train every officer for a different specialization anyway It's the same end goal as you say, just a different means of getting to it
Andrew Trip, I get what you’re saying but someone once said that great men have great flaws. I’m not qualified to say who qualifies as “great,” although I have my opinions. But as far as Jordan Peterson goes, “let’s not throw the baby out with the bath-water.” His several messages re. Free Speech and Personal Responsibility are still valid.
@@jcxmotor5 what does that even mean? The phrase has become a meme lol. I know there's a thread winding through several different fields but I don't know enough to make sense of the implied relationships.
@@thnknde A meme? No, it's her self described political stance. We've had a couple somewhat lengthy conversations about our differences that never panned out. I've been trying to get better at speaking as a consequence.