We're hoping to have a video up next week showing the installation of the turbo kit - feel free to drop any questions to our attention and we'll try to answer them in the upcoming video! Thanks Tim & everyone involved and everyone for watching!
I really enjoyed being a part of this project! Thanks for choosing us at Area Diesel to help make this happen. It was great meeting you when you came to pick it up. I hope you all had a blessed Christmas and have a safe and Happy New Year.
Wow, considering a stock 1025r makes 18 to 20 pto hp(roughly 20% loss through powertrain) 32 pto hp would net about 40hp at the crank. This is truly impressive on only 5lbs of boost! Can't wait to see you test it on real world applications Tim.
@@GoGoggansGo not true, these smaller engines have extremely tight ring gaps, under 13k max clearance, for my kubota engines that i turbo, 15hp stock and with a modified pump i get up around 40hp around 30 psi of boost, i usually have to open the ring clearance about 2x more than stock, for this new of a engine pulling it hard and long it will butt the rings and ruin a sleeve and sometimes can pull a piston apart.
What has impressed me the most so far is how well it has all been put together. In theory anyone could cobble together and Frankenstein a Turbo on an engine. But few could put it together so professionally and seemingly so far without compromise. My only suggestion is to run an accurate temp gauge, EGTs can be fine but the overall extra power can tax the cooling system under the right conditions both operational and ambient temperatures. Absolutely cannot wait for the testing to begin!
Von helped me many years ago when I built a twin turbocharged Ford for my 2 wheel drive pulling truck. Area Diesel supplied the turbos, and Von spent time with me on the phone with advice and ideas. He helped a couple of my pulling buddies that had turbos on Chevrolet engines. Top shelf folks at Area Diesel!
Oh wow. This is great. You sure don't hear me asking "why would you do this". I understand. Will be waiting to see how it performs in real world work. Thanks so much for being one of the first 1025R turbos and sharing it with your viewers.
I doubt it. Yanmar engine ,it would have to be Yanmar who watched and learned. Plus I doubt the Turf torque guys are impressed with the extra strain being put through the transmission. Also to top it off the turbo would likely be a whole new round of emissions testing. That being said I still love what they've done . Can you guys put that turbo on my john deere 2305?
I've ran 2 PSI on my 2015 1025r for several years with zero issues. I had the exact same experience with the additional torque keeping the RPM up not bogging as much when you load it initially. You wouldn't believe how good it sounds! I'm surprised that Tim didn't do a couple of drive-bys for this video.
@@IMRgarage Nothing because I wasn't sure what the drivetrain could take with extra power. Mainly I wanted the turbo sound. Maybe I missed it but I'm not sure what they did on this one but obviously something.
Tim… one of the uses that occurred to me was working on hills. When mowing up a steep hill, mine bogs down. The loss of rpm’s makes me slow down my forward speed. Otherwise, the mower will drop below optimal speed, leaving a ragged cut. This is exacerbated when I add my PTO driven vacuum to the power train. Think how many minutes I could save with the turbo! Almost makes me want to find a job somewhere to justify the cost… because everyone knows that retirement hours aren’t billable!
Good point! Combination of Large PTO load while at the same time large Hydrostatic load is great example of when you could use more horsepower without stressing either system.
Awesome results guys! Area diesel is actually the town south of me, and I’m glad to see a good local business being promoted. When I get around to restoring our Oliver 1850, they will be the folks that will rebuild the injection system on it. Thanks for supporting a local business Tim! I’ll be looking forward to seeing the results of what this machine can do. Maybe I’ll even mention this to my neighbor, who has a 1025R.
Pretty cool. All that power but no weight. A tractor is can have all the hp but it's useless without weight on those tires but you made it clear...... this is just for fun and I enjoyed watching! Thank you
Thank you Tim. Whenever i watch your videos i smile. Thank you and god bless. I own a 2025 bought it because i watched you and your 1025 i needed more clearance as i live in the upper peninsula of Mich offgridd. God bless you and your family.
Looks like you found the right people for this project! Love everyone's approach to run it and test it before trying to market anything. I'm looking forward to how it works out. Thanks for putting together everything and using your equipment as the guinea pig.
This is why Tim is many notches above the majority of content providers on here. What a concept. I can’t wait for the final in a few months. Thanks Tim!! P.s. call Terry at Heavy Hitch and tell him to start making the landscape rake in a 60” width please. Thanks again!
I am really enjoying the custom turbo Johnny X project. I know it's fun for you, it has also been a lot of fun to watch for the viewers like myself that are into this sort of stuff as well. Great Job to everyone involved !!!!!
I am a little concerned with how cool it was out and how warm it got, this will be a good test in mid summer, would be nice if you could check the temp periodically
Good morning Tim the 1.2 liter engine is detuned by JD.The same motor from Yanmar Marine is rated at 29.5 hp. I'm looking forward to seeing more of this series.
What a great job by the Area Diesel team. That is an incredible increase in HP. I remember you had the 1025 on the dyno a while back but couldn’t remember the HP from that episode. Surely must be around a 40-50% increase. I know you’ll put it thru the paces. I’m looking forward to the ride. Blessings.
This will be a game changer and a kick in the nuts to epa if they’d make a kit for the 3025. Large frame tractor making 30-40 hp without the dpf. I’m looking to get a 3025d in the next year or so and I’d be very interested in a turbo kit for it
That's a great increase in pto output. I was guessing mid 20's but getting above 30 pto hp, that gives you a huge advantage in equipment selection, wood chippers etc. Thanks for sharing and being willing to take a chance on such an innovative project
Hey Tim, lets see some wheel-stands on the "New improved SUPER JOHNNY ". You " Know " you are also "supping up" the Channel also. Just "needs" a TURBO sticker on the hood. Thanks for the "turbo build ride". Happy safe tractoring Sir.
Awesome job! When does Vinny get the same treatment? My 4231TD is gettin' long in the tooth, and the 4500Y just doesn't have enough giddy-up to do the job.
Now that it works we'll just have to wait and see how does it handle those tough jobs combining pto+hidrostatic power (tilling and brush hogging mainly) Keep on with the great videos
Most powerful 1025R ever ! I do have a couple of concerns, summer heat under heavy use could that maybe increase those temperatures of the turbo exhaust and is the factory amount of engine oil and even coolant going to be enough for this power upgrade under heavy load. Nice install by the shop, looks like it came with it ! Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !
That's pretty cool. Good opportunity to have a little more head room running mowers or bailers that might pull 20hp themselves in addition to the hydrostatic drivetrain.
I'm hoping that if this goes to a kit that it will work on the 3025e. If I could boost the hp on a tractor I own instead of trading up I think I would definitely prefer that.
Interesting project. I know I mentioned it previously that M&W Gear used my boat and engine to develope a turbo kit for a marine engine in the late 70's. Chevy marine engine was rated at 255 HP. After the very simple 3psi twin turbo kit was added it produced 310HP. Kit had to be Coast Guard approved. To prevent over revving I had to have my propellers repitched. Performance change was impressive.
Super excited. Would love to see the 3025e kit. Should be about the same with the exhaust coming out on the other side. Also my 3025e will bog down all the way till it stalls if I stay in it. The hydrostatic trans doesn’t have any release. And also would love to take my 25hp to a 32hp to help with running the rotary cutter and not have to mess with any regen issues that come with the factory 32hp.
Love the extra power. I vaguely remember a video on the hydraulic pump upgrade on the back end of the 1025r. can you marry the two together to see what happens?
I would probably buy a kit for sure. While I do have a JD5075M for larger work, I only use it about 40% of the time on my property and use my 2013 1025R for everything else. For what I do with the 1025R, just a little more umph up hills that I have to maintain would be great.
I must ask Tim. Only a compressor was added. No tuning ( fueling) for the hp increase. Very very impressive the out come. Very excited for the future testing. Thank you for sharing your adventures with us.
Great video. I hope it opens up doors for everyone. Like Tim the Tool Man says, "More power!!" The question is which family member will want to drive this.
Very cool project Tim. That seems like nearly a 100% increase in HP at the PTO. From 18 to 32? Very impressive. I’d love to see how that would affect my wood chipper performance. Merry Christmas! -Ed
Our "before" test showed 22hp. Hard to say how accurate a dyno is at such low HP, but I think we can be fairly confident in the change in HP since we used the same dyno for both tests.
Tim, I think you need to add the Hydrosplus kit with the extreme pump to this tractor to “up” the power of the hydraulic system too. Again, another great video series from your channel. I also appreciate that any of my kids (ages 10-13) can watch your videos without need of my supervision.
Thats some impressive HP gain. Consider putting a heat shield over the hot side of the turbo so you don't soften that plastic hood. just needs to be a piece of metal about a half inch above the turbo. The heat coming off it when you are working it will damage the plastic, not right away, but eventually it will either dip or crack. That little tractor will do some serious mowing now.
Merry Christmas Tim, Christy, and Katriel. There's a very simple reason to try this modification. If it proves successful then people with older tractors have hope of powering up to gain a little better performance when they do a rebuild. Tim, you never said how many hours were on Johnny X when you dropped it off. I can see doing this to my older diesel tractors to gain a little extra umph. I have a "new" engine to drop into Kubby, and I'll have the remnants of the original engine to deal with. I'll probably get things professionally looked at, and then I'll build it, and I'd love to have a kit like this to add for a new power plant. I'd be happy (ecstatic) with a 33% increase, but I'd take an increase of just 2 to 3 PTO HP. That's why you're doing this. You're doing this for us. You are taking all the risk to bring us something better for our sub-compact tractors. The rest of the home tractor owners will benefit as well. For this and all of the other implements and improvements for our tractors I want to say THANK YOU! Have a Happy and safe New Year!
Really appreciate the fact they absolutely refuse to let the mass public be beta testers, unlike many MAJOR manufacturers, due to corporate greed. Says a lot about their core principles and values. Kudos to Area Diesel Service, Inc.
Looks like it works great, and they did a great job tuning it with no black smoke. Glen banks would approve that it’s not wasting fuel, and not creating excessive EGT as a result.
This was very interesting to watch. Definitely cheaper than purchasing another, or trading in for, a higher HP tractor; at least I think. I would like to see you do this on your Kubota LX 3310 some time! There are a lot of LX owners (2610s and 3310s) that I'm sure would be interested in this. I know I am. Thanks Tim!
@@TractorTimewithTim Although it saddens me, I do appreciate you letting me know. I certainly wouldn't want to break anything in the powertrain. For some reason I did hear that LX rears are made, for lack of better words, 'sub par' from other similar Kubota tractor model rears. Not sure why ... I guess it's done for overall 'cost efficiency'. Although, thinking about it, I'm fairly certain everything is equal in both the 3310 and the 2610, except for the engine and is what sparked my interest, since I've got an LX-2610 that I would like to increase it's HP; at least match the 3310. Thanks again, Tim.
You probably need to do some rototilling or brush cutting. I would think you would want to have a combined drawbar plus PTO load to really see the difference between this unit and a stock one. I think some back-to-back runs compared to a stock tractor would be interesting.
The weak points will be the transmission and the PTO clutches. The ground power will not change unless you crank up the high pressure reliefs on the hydrostatic transmission.
Granted my standard calculations are based on pump gas, but I was expecting 28hp tops. What this actually hit on diesel was phenomenal! Like the ADS guy said though is potential longevity becomes somewhat compromised, but you know what, if ya break it, time to upgrade! Standard motto in motorsports. 👌
Guys I'm very impressed with what you have done with the 1025r. It got me thinking though. What are you Guys thoughts on giving the 5075e a little extra horses. Maybe up it from 74hp to 85 to 90 hp . I too have a Johnny 5. Would be gratefully for your input. Thanks
Hey Tim, I don't know that you will see your additional power through the wheels because of going over relief. Where I see it working is through PTO attachments. Larger rear mower, stump grinder, tiller. Also, track the fuel burn vs your standard tractor. Very clean install.
The stump grinder is the one I want to see. I've been kicking around getting one and this could be a game changer. Id like to see what it might do for a wood chipper too.
Love this! I wonder if you have temperature readings on the hydrostatic drive temperatures and oil pressures. Watching those will help prevent damage to the driveline. Blessings
Thank you for trying things like this so we the viewers and fellow tractor operators/owners can actually get the information and not just dream about what it might be like to do the things you do in the videos
My 1025r never stalls out ,if it's to much load all 4 tires dig holes lifts load and backs right back outta the holes ,its fun and enjoyable doing work with this tractor!
Tim, another great video! I’m sure if someone is going to push Johnny X; it’s you. 32HP at the PTO is awesome for one of these little tractors. I think it’s great you’re using your platform to help another business, and show the manufacturers that a turbo option is truly something people are wanting. I know I’d like to have another 10hp on my Mahindra. Like ya’ll were discussing, I’m pretty sure the engine is going to hold together with 5-8 psi of boost; but between the hydrostatic trans, and diffs; that may be another story. Glad to see you’re putting in the due diligence to do some R&D and not just putting a kit out there….If I was a betting man; and the tractor holds together you’ll probably find yourself wanting to bump it up to 10-15, maybe even 20psi and add a fire ring head gasket and some new head studs before releasing a final kit. Definitely need to see how it does next summer when the ambient temps are a lot higher, just to be safe. Thanks again for taking this on! If it fails; at least you’ll show that a turbo is just too much; but a lot of these tractors have similar displacement at different hp rattlings and I think it’s your driveline and hydraulics that are going to be pushed to the limits and not the engine when it comes to long term reliability! Keep the Johnny X Turbo videos coming! Jon@SBYD!
When you are doing real world testing, can you include some testing of mid-mount PTO applications like mowing really tall grass with the mid mower or a boom/front attachment please?
I'd be happy just to be able to mow tall grass up hill at full speed. Can't do that now with my mower - May be a nice upgrade to play with if the temps and boost are that low.
When the measurements were taken on the Dyno the PTO speed show to be 400 to 500 instead of 540. Why? What fuel system changes were made to increase the PTO hp, without additional fuel you can't make more HP?
