John Deere 8850 vs International 4786 Tractor 

Love them both! Thanks for sharing!! Stoney Australia 🇦🇺

Probably couldn’t go wrong with either one of them mighty fine looking tractors

Nice collection. I prefer the looks of the international. I remember when they came out they were very impressive and powerful Looking tractors. They are cheaper horsepower. The tractors 100 hp and under bring better money at farm auctions. Both your tractors have good rubber lots of tread. They’re very expensive to replace. Merry Christmas, from Ontario Canada.

I love your videos dude. I love how you don't discriminate between the tractor brand names

We have a 4366 and love it for heavy tillage

Nice lookin old John Deere G sitting there. I have one of those I restored several years ago. Nice running old tractor very distinctive sound. It will idle down slow enough to count the revolutions of the fly wheel.

If you turn the center knob on the john deere steering wheel it will extend or retract. Don't know if you know that. You called it telescoping then showed the tilt.

While I bleed green I have always been drawn to the IH because I love the design of the Steigers. Spent time in 8630 and 8960 and 4366 so it is a toss up for me as I enjoyed them all. Nice of those folks to let you store your toys in their barn. Heck of a nice barn too. As far as horsepower it is amazing what the newer front wheel assist tractors have and what they will pull. They have in my opinion replaced a lot of the articulated machines just because of their versatility. But I still love them. They are big and boxy and loud and are a real mans tractor.

Considering the IH was at the End of its run it was in major need of cabin updates and the 7788 was the typical IH Lipstick on a pig as they called it . If IH would have carried on with the Ideas from the Hough Division they would've had a better player . Steigers were a great tractor and IH should have offered it with the 817 Inline or the larger 1000 inch engine. IH never was really keen on the larger 4wds cause they had big plans to scale up the 2+2s to 400 horse cummins power

The lower the RPM the longer the engine life will be.

I have been waiting for this since you bought your John Deere

I guess tractors of changed a lot over the years my uncle had a 7060 AC that uncle always preferred a AC my other uncle had some kind a big international Harvester it did not have a cab but it was big enough to have a cab I don’t know exactly the model big diesel turbo job he made a living with it,,, my grandpa had John Deere and everything else in between he never got rid of a tractor so when they had the estate sale people came from all around that was many many years ago,,,but I’ve noticed they don’t hardly make nothing around here no more all the names are kind of different now people are using different stuff it seems like maybe even foreign stuff looks like,,, i’ve seen midsize diesel McCormicks they said that were being made by a reputable Italian company I guess they bought the name I don’t know.

I like the international better,more classic.

The JD 8850 has the sound guard cab which is very comfortable for long shifts and the controls far more refined compared to the 4786 budget built cab. Same with both tractor transmissions/drive trains the IH design is much simpler to work on as it's componentry in design as the JD is much more integrated and original and guess more expense to rebuild. If correct the 4786 list price was $79k (1981) compared to the JD $120k (1988) new price. Congratulations of your acquisition of two classic tractors.

Those are two awesome tractors you have, thanks for sharing.

the treasure in this video is the AC combine in the back of the shed we have a 90 AC combine! l will be watchin!!!!

Hi sorry missed your live stream...... im from England UK.... by the way When covid over they have a large agricultural show here in England a town called Harrogate, North Yorkshire

2 cool tractors I would love to drive them for you while you flimed.

you actually stopped in New York and posted a picture of our 4366 on your Instagram page. I'd love to drive the 4786...they are a somewhat rare tractor...looks great!

Two assume and very costly failures. Both are V8's too. The IH engine was used in end loaders as well as Ag tractors. Cylinder liner leaks were an issue as well as a oil pump drive from crankshaft has an idler gear and ball bearing that was also a weak spot. The JD tractor used the engine as part of the frame, something JD did for 3 decades and cost farmers Millions of dollars to keep fixed and running. Was In college at the time Caterpillar actually helped JD with the cylinder head design back in the day. Unsure of any application of the JD V8 in an unstressed block situation, but in the 8850 tractor they were horribly expensive to rebuild. If I were a tractor buyer, I would RUN not walk from either of these two machines.

Heck start the Deere up

Wasting your time here, 4786 lasted longer than 2000hrs, 8850 is junk, too bad. Nothing like a 4786, only a Steiger!!! John T.

I believe the Deere side screens were available in later years for the 8850.

Allis Chalmers and Minneapolis Moline had some interesting special features with convenience and power for the operator. I am deeply saddened how our Country has just continuously gone down in our farming economy and culture…..

Mr Jason, Please try to deal with those oil leaks on your International. It’s a beautiful machine and please roll it with pride. Your John Deere is also Beautiful…. Your tractor collection is wonderful to see

Why does the JD look way more newer? Is it the non-sun fainted paint? The less worn out tires? Or, JD sticking around until tdy, and not changing appearance (colors, design) that much on the outside?

Like those big IH tractors

Both beautiful, wish I could join in the life stream

Bought as a antique that Oliver, they were not reliable at all, owners maybe wanted too much power and they wouldn’t take it

the 4786 has a truck motor the 8850 has a cat engine when they were new they had head gasket problems i have worked on both

Those are 2 great looking tractors , definitely above average condition , sharp looking units ! Myself operate a small grain farm in Manitoba , some years ago bought a 1976 IHC 4366 with 4,200 hours on the clock. , a year later bought a 1981 4586 , 5,400 hours , and like your 4886 , still has the original V8 motor in her. Basic tractors , duals on both , good floatation. And they fit in the budget.

Pretty cool 😎👍

I wasn't aware you got yourself a green tractor

Nice looking tractors, I like them both

Those old IH V8’s would just scream!!

WOW! Good stuff! I grew up with these tractors!

Interesting to hear your wish list - sounds exactly like mine except mine is in 1/32 scale - still need a Stieger, Versatile and Allis. Got a County 1474 for Christmas. Some might be a bit hard to find, like Roadless, Matbro or Muir-Hill ! Have you ever seen a Muir-Hill in the States?

Boy if I could Afford those beasts. Thanks for the walk around Jason

How much for both tractors looking at 10000 acres

Interesting the difference in design aesthetic even though they are both relatively the same vintage. The JD looks a lot more modern to my eye, which I don't mean to imply superior.

The cab is noisy to me when I drive my neighbor's 1981 4386 and I was surprised at the amount of glare from the hood when you drive into the sun. Definitely a bare bones tractor but a good looking tractor. The Deere entry into the cab has always been disagreeable with me and Deere didn't have a nice entry until they went away from the Sound Gard cab. I prefer the access to the batteries in my 7050 where you pull a pin and they swing out into the open.

I grew up on a farm in central Kansas where we owned several brands of tractors, including JD and IHC. My father often said that JD worked their design engineers overtime while IHC sent them home at noon on Friday. Your comments about the hydraulic valve placement are just one example of not quite getting the job done correctly. However my father often times cussed the "sexy" tin that made working on JD equipment more difficult than other brands. One example we experienced daily was our family owned both a 560 IHC and a 3020 JD. The 3020 was light years ahead of the 560 in drive-ability and creature comforts as well as the hydraulics and turning brakes. Thanks for your series on farm equipment of various styles and brands! Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year!

Ok bro love ur channel 100% ,the 955 cu inch JD motor was a generator workhorse type motor that pulls well and was OK but like the ih 800 cu inch v8 both of those motors did not have a great low end motor,so the 855 Cummins, or the 60 series Detroit were often a stronger fit,just saying

Hi big tractor power

I was surprised they made the 8850 so long. The local dealership sold one new and then wouldn’t take it back in on trade cause the reputation made it hard to sell. V configured deisel just never seem to last like a six. Don’t have a lot knowledge but Is it due to two rods between each main cap. What was the deeres engine trouble

It's too bad JD gave up on the V8 engines, the introduction many industy design elements that got picked up by Cummins, etc. and applied to 6 cyl designs. The early V8s had issues but by 1988 they were resolved. I believe Deere dropped them when their vision for selling V8 power for other uses didn't come together; 6 cyl were less complicated.

Hello BTP, how are you doing...Have a nice family Christmas!!!.Both are great tractors, but John deere is "John deere and he is the best in the world. I greet you sincerely from Argentina...

You should try to get up to Crosby North Dakota to the Knudson farm the old man was making crab steer big tractors starting in the 60's. They were green up till I think the late 70's when it was sold and became yellow. I believe it was in the early 70's that the big tractors got side hill tilt controls. You should really go see

The engine side covers are factory on the 8850, the transmission is a synchronized transmission with a 2 speed in the clutch housing before the transmission

Great video, i like bolth, there's somthing about the look of the big dual wheel tractors, i like the international because of the red paint job,LOL.In the end especially a farmer thats in business ,i would think it's about the cost of maintenance.I never see these types of tractors in New Jersey.

I worked for a neighbor in 1981 who had a new 8440. We put on a pair of side shields like your. they were not made by John Deere but I can not remember who made them. They helped to keep the fan from sucking in corn stalks in muddy condition. Bad Axe Michigan

I miss the live stream . I think you must tell next time.that ih Developd 6 tractors (7388 7588 and the 7788)a lot modern than the 86 serie.only they stopt the program and whant the 2+2 program in front line.

I only ever liked one international tractor it was a Farmall 1206. I'd like a lot of IH tractors. But I really a John Deere man at heart. But I got to be honest I love all makes period but John Deere is number one to me

Big Tractor Power- do you farm, or just collect 350+ hp four wheel drive tractors?

I know you are proud of those two tractors. I've always thought that if I won a big lottery, a few of those type tractors would be on my shopping list.

I always watch your excellent channel. Greetings from Argentina

Hello Jason , I really like both of your tractors , thank you for filming them .You say you are not a farmer so I was wondering what do you do for a living ? And How much does it cost to keep a big V8 articulated tractor ? We don't have many of these tractors in the United kingdom , there is a farm near me that has a Ford FW60 . Kind regards from Matt .

I sat on a 1206 and a late model 4020 and 4320 and many 40 1 0

a minneapolis moline tractor that not a lot of people know about is the stutgart.. its 4wheel drive built in stutgartsarkansas...

My uncle had a 8850 that he uses for custom fertilizer operation. I drove it one time with a 16’ off set Krause disc. That was weird and fun. We had a very small farm and he had to use smaller tractor for other fertilizer application.

Witch one pulls the best with the same implement

William

Whould u sale both tractors 🚜

Jd is a nice er tractor. 👨‍🌾

I guess the V-8 was in this model was the only issue ? Love me some green paint !Thanks for the walk around .

WILLIAM

Those are some nice tractors there's nothing like '80s tractors.

From western Oregon

pretty sure that screen covering the 8850 engine is not factory.

Looking nice, in the late 90s I drove an 8650 with the kinze up grade really nice

Jason, More or a IH fan then the JD's... What is the Red n Yellow plow behind your IH? Moline or Massey Harris? 5 bottom? You really need an Oliver!!! Thanks for sharing.

Regular watcher from Saskatchewan, Canada. Love case traction king and the big buds, but grew up like a lot of people on JD 44 sound guard series. We had a 4440, then a 4560, plus the yard 3130

literally living my dream of having my 2 favorite V8 diesel 4x4 tractors.

Watch your videos all the time. Glad to have the opportunity to see your tractors.. I would really like to see you come and film around the area I live not that far from you a couple of hrs drive. In and around Glendale Ky just 5 miles south of Elizabethtown , Western Kentucky Parkway brings you right here to Elizabethtown. Plenty of nice farms and you can see all different size of tractors being used .

Laughed at the hydraulic controls. The other Steigers all seemed to have that same installation, but it always looked like it was put there with a combination of a cutting torch, sledgehammer and an axe lol. Never elegant. Just functional. The IH branded ones are fancy, by comparison. Only once did I do any damage with those sticking crude controls. It tried to unfold a cultivator that was locked in transport position, at start up. Made me use a bad word.

Like the 4786 red tractor used to have 2 - 4386 tractors and 1- 4366 four wheel drive tractors 2 hydro static tractors hydro 186 + a hydro 100, a 574 and a 434 sml tractors

Could not lug 4786.it would beat the brgs.v800.

Two fine tractors of their day and now as well. It is great if one as the space and money to be able to own a part of american ag. history.🇱🇷👍

Would not of known that tractor was right if you didn’t tell me to all

Thats sweet! I love the 8850! We had a 8650 and a 9300

how cab compare

As Toby Keith used to say....." a little less talk...& a lot more action'' (It's nice to hear about all the good & bad points....but nothing like seeing them in action.)

I wanted to say thank you for all the time that you put in making these videos Merry Christmas to you and all your family as well

955 Cummins

Always liked the operator friendly controls on the Deere and we don’t have any case IH dealers in our area so parts are harder to get in the Tuscaloosa Alabama area

I love your tractors they are very nice I hope you and your family had a great Christmas and a happy new year

Merry christmas and a happy new year to you and all your family from clay new york

The international should have had a hydraulic seat.

Neither of those V-8s were known to be long life, did ne

Jason love both of them u know my favorite 4786 but u can't go wrong with either one of them

I see john deere wised up and moved the exhaust and air cleaner to the side rather than keeping in the middle of the hood.

Hi i would have really like to see the JD's engine. I know the IH my father was a IH mechanic so i know it. Ontario canada.

Great show from fulton county pa. South central pa farmland very rural. Love watching ur show

LESS TO GO WRONG ON THE IH THAN THE DEERE . NO FLY BY WIRE CRAP !

Both good old beautiful power houses

I’m a big fan of your tractors. Red& Green, are my favorites. Thank you for all the videos.

Like to have these both in my barn!

the 8850 is powered by a cat engine

Obviously your not a farmer those screens around the batteries are a blessing Keep dust out or at least helps Love your equip and videos

From Ireland What kind of money did they cost