JOHN DEERE: A Controversial American Icon | Up To Speed 

No 😂

Nope

No

Never

There so expensive they should be able to fix it.

People don’t realize this isn’t just an issue for farmers. If John Deere can take away the right to repair, what can automotive companies do? Edit: I get it. Other companies are doing it too. The point is it’s still illegal because in the US we have the Right to Repair law. If they let John Deere get away with it, all the other companies can too.

Exactly, the whole software argument is ridiculous especially considering that the world is going to electric everything.

Tesla has been doing it since they started as well.

If you enter into a contract, ought you honor that contract?

@@prairiefarmer5994 uhhh things they are already doing? lol

John Deere Gators with gators in the back

Comander Mcgarrett John Deere Gators with gators in the back with gator hats on

I’ve never driven a gator but I’ve driven a lot of tractors

Lol

I'm from Florida and can confirm this to be true

Especially on weekends, you know your fucked if you have to call them

I was actually thinking about this as well. Welker Farms for example use the old Big Buds. Has there been any price change on the used tractoes market?

I definitely don't have 50,000 acres but in Nebraska as far as us ranchers go it's the same. All the tractors we work don't have canopies and most have no fan covers. The huge majority are from the 70s to 50s in terms of manufacturing years.

John Deere is still making new non computerized tractors out of Mexico and India. Probably not exporting to the US tho. Available to 3rd world countries for now. Can be repaired by non-dealers but need to get parts from dealers

The same issue is going on in the UK agricultural machinery dealers have suffered really low sales for at least two or three years since 2016 as most tractors tend to be more expensive to buy and run as most new tractors have to have add blue systems to cut emissions in the UK and they are a lot more complex to fix. They are also a bit bigger than the tractors brought out 20 years ago and the issue with this is that they can't easily get down the narrow roads/lanes and sometimes the gates to the fields.

My family farm only runs older tractors that we can fix are selves the new equipment we run at work has thrown codes with under 100 hours they don’t make modern equipment to last because they know that it will break and they can make more off the owner the newer equipment I have run has had way more problems than the tractors we run on the farm

What is this a crossover episode?

Louis is the best

Thank you for your life story

Lol @ doesn’t talk about his feelings

That's the thing. Farmers don't need to buy these new locked tractors. They can buy or refurbish old tractors. Either ones the own or someone else's unused tractors. Being industrial equipment, users tend to keep them until they have a serious problem. It's not like autos, where people upgrade because of the need to own the new model. This issue makes fixing tractors they'd normally replace more economically viable.

lokisgodhi but the problem is that some extremely large family owned farms aren’t able to keep up with old equipment, thus why there are new tractors and why the right to repair law exists.

​@@lokisgodhi Yes, keeping old tractors and using them 25.000 hours and more is economically; on the one hand. On the other hand, you need tractors that are reliable. New trators with little hours on the clock tend to be more reliable than old ones. Plus today you'd want new tech in your tractor, like ISOBUS and autosteer. It's difficult to impossible to upgrade older ones. And apart form that, most farms are owenr/oparator businesses. And we rather spend 14 hours on a modern fancy tractor, than on an old goat. Check out "Fendt 1050" and "Valtra N 174D" for examples of state of the art models. I personally don't feel the need to get a John Deere. That right to repair discussion is just one of multiple reasons why I chose other brands.

pours gasoline on open wounds? That can't be sanitary

Until now, Apple released a self-repair program

John Deere is the Ferrari of tractors Not on performance though, on lawsuits definitely

Nice! Didn't pick that out haha

He even uses a radio model controlled tractor because he's serious about authenticity.

Not everyone is a dopehead

@@llkjjjss Ok red foreman, it was just a joke haha

😂😂

they all have J's some where in thier names.... Nolan *J* Sykes, for example....

Make an Up to Speed on J's Racing

Agreed!!

@@ryanroberts3793 well that's also true

Besides the Deere there isn't much else. You have Case-International Harvester, New Holland, and Massey Ferguson (in the US and Canada). There are others outside the US and the brands I mentioned are owned by foreign conglomerates except Deere, but you rarely see those other brands in the US. They could do defunct brands like Minneapolis-Moline, Big Bud, Ford Tractor division, Allis-Chalmers, Oliver, McCormick, and White Farm but many of these were absorbed by the aforementioned brands. Now an even more interesting story is how old man Lamborghini went from building tractors and farm equipment to producing supercars to destroy Ferrari.

Problem is they wont let their owners use the computer to do diagnostics.

Did not expect the Welkers watching Donut Media, but this is farming related....

Was not expecting you here

Isn’t that the way it is now ? John Deere will only guarantee that the product works properly if they are involved. I see a problem if JD puts in features that stalls working equipment unless you pay them to unlock it. (This is not intended to be an upsetting comment).

@@nubreed13 that's not entirely true. They can purchase the hardware and software (much like a dealership does) but it ultimately is cost prohibitive unless you want to start working on tractors all day and stop farming. I get where JD is coming from. Alot of time and $ goes into the development of any product. The high tech machines we have now or even 25 years ago are expensive to design and build. You want to fix it? Go ahead and buy the software. Don't think that just bc they built a tractor there isn't an entire division of electrical engineers, softaare designers, programmers and others involved that still have to be paid and continue developing new products. Btw, thank the us epa if you really have a problem with it. Without increasing demands for cleaner engines with increased efficiency we would still be running the old black smoke spewing tractors of yester year.

Don't mock the definitive way to measure time

Venatus Gullebulle hilarious use of mixed capitalization. Very humorous 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Well because that’s the only accurate type of measurement

103 P.M. Year 103, Pre Malone.

LMAO that crack me up

Dude they have a team of researcers working on research before each epit.

Me with my bum ass civic

It’s more like buying an Acura nsx and them telling you no, this actually a Bugatti if you touch any other other then the steering wheel, You void warranty... oh yeah p.s every fitting we use to make from metal we now make with non uv resistant plastic so it will break down and crumble off your machine and shut you down for a 4+ days at the worst possible time for a part that’s worth 2.79 😂😭but it’s not Deere that’s the issue there all like this now it’s like AI farming

lol u dont even needa fix a honda sometimes, just let that puppy roll and it'll be fine.

Oh you mean like a Tesla?

@@mzaite true but Tesla has always been like that both Honda and John Deere have been a relatively user serviceable product up until recently with John Deere

It dun been wrecked

Same with consumers and their markup on licenced products

That and quality control.

I agree, my dad's a farmer with old deere equipment. But not me, I'm becoming a youtuber i guess with my new channel about trucks in the mountain where there are no farms. We sill own the family farm though, dad still works it

I only need point out Harley Davidson if you think junk won't sell in the US simply bc of legacy

Rightttttt?

They are kinda unmeasurable, tourqe can be altered user to user.

Fr

Jesse Monk ret wt

Andrew Valenzuela yrysts

I remember Deer also

😂 😂

Just get a Gator

Buy a Dodge with a cummins 5.9 in it. Same engine is used in multiple JD tractors

Deer 🦌 God

Good, let Deere suffer from the democracy of capitalism. Thank goodness for consumer choice.

Yep the best tractor brand

Yep

Jefferson Liston pre 80s Massey Ferguson was the best

2020 everyone

Quite slow

That is the title

@@farmerboy9029 up to speed and up to seed is the difference

@@farmerboy9029 Get reading son...

Didn’t notice up to SEED at first, that is good

Agreed

My sympathies. I worked bail runs when I was 14 for some extra cash. To this day my shoulders and back twitch when I see someone running a bailer trailer in the field.

You have a mechanical engineer degree?

JD should prob be careful then. Nothing makes the US Military more salted than needing to spend more money tractor tech

@@Czarhuisteco not yet, working on it. Active duty does not leave much time for that, work, and family.

@@Czarhuisteco I think he's saying that he's a mechanic on equipment used by an engineering unit.

@@GMAN142006 Good luck!

We have one

Louis Rossmann is fighting for that,right to repair electronic device and tractor

It's sad that companies will screw people until they legally can't.

Here, hear

@@chrisfloyd7316 thank the uni party

JCB made a tractor do 90mph

Shoulda been called "Up to No Good". Crap history lesson. First and last video I'll watch from him.

@izphuzzy the issue is not late 90s tractors here. This is for new equipment that isn't paid off yet. Once it's paid off, it's all yours

What time stamp?

wasnt funny

5hat thing is wiiild

Lol this is awesome, thanks

Stuff of nightmares!

That’s some Avatar type shit vro

That thing walks so slow

2020 a.d is too high of a number. 25 p.m is and easy number.

I'm going to do my part and try to spread the word on every video

In the year 103 Pre-Malone....

My hero

Ahh the legend is here good

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Day 1 of supporting pagani gaming

Yeah even me

I have a newer john deere, but if it breaks I break out the model B and git shit done

Do other companies like Case IH have these regulations?

Small tractor market is now Dominated by Mahindra...

@@Lazlo. not NEARLY as much. They're a conglomerate of Case, International, Caterpillar, Minneapolis Moline, and many others. They adapt and standardize, which keeps price down. John Deere is the Apple of the tractor world, whereas Case is like samsung and New Holland is like Huwei

John Deere & Apple. Perfect comparison

Fun Fact: Your about a hour and a half from me.

@@BigIronFab Iowa gang rise up

i grew up in dsm/waterloo and just moved to moline/rock island. quad cities car scene is way underrated

Cool stuff, man. I regularly pick up people's vehicles from there to get worked on at my dealership.

I'm from sask

He also forgot that you can buy the program, you have to be trained to use it and fix your tractor.

Before you criticize a dude for forgetting a small detail, make sure you spell tractors correctly😂

Hoyt Benson lol just saw that. thanks iPhone auto correct so good much wow

Steven LaFrance ah yes, much convenient

@@StevenLaFrance you neglected to correct the grammar tho lol

You know why they're green and yellow, right? So they can hide in the cornfield when the Cat goes by.

And crosses a Ford

Lol

reminder that Caterpillar makes locomotives

Or a Magnum

Exactly what I said! Donut is great!

ahahah what a fun fact. Btw it's voilà.

That's an awesome tidbit

but which catapillar ... catapilllar or Caterpillar

Shake Hands With Danger

Cat power baby

@@Name-cy8ym nig ba

Klaas

Suppose that you were sitting down at a table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those

@@ImponteDeluxo shit man, definitely didn’t expect to read this at 2am, but was really eye opening

@@Trollofjom69 now if you excuse me i have to put together jesus corpse like a lego set while i escape from a crippled cowboy and his italian boyfriend

Or if us whites and asians didnt exist

@@cheekybloke9836 Basically.

Milo eh 🤔 throw er down eh

Simply put, we need a national "right to repair" law.

Starting Spring 2021 I'm gunna start eating all my dandelions.

It's got electrolytes! That's what plants crave!

Gots to have dem electrolytez

Agreed

FARMGATE

Farmageddon is Iowa State vs Kstate duh

I associate that word very very much with Farmtruck and AZN though

Wanna know how much does a 8000 series tractor costs? If u wanna pay 200.000 +$

Yeah, sadly I'm gonna buy an iPhone for something work related (a service we use has an app that only works on iPhones) I'm getting a used one, most likely with a broken screen, but I still hate that I gotta do it.

He mispronounced Moline but got Illinois right, so we'll let the downright catastrophic Moline blunder slide

"engrained" lol

And kubota

Merlyn Wayman “kubota” lmao

Please no.

And Allis Chalmers

And most of their riding mowers have briggs or kholer engines. Some Kawis as well

I’let him drive on

Demon Deere 1/4 mile drag challenge!

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Lol thanks, I’m on the other side of the river in Davenport and was going to say something

@@calciumphosphate3177former Bettendorf resident here

I'm from Moline too live in Bettendorf now!!

Former Galesburg resident.

That is because it was formerly French

Nice

A lot of company founders would be saying that now

True

@@mrkingofhaha he made them less advanced, not less reliable. This was to make them more affordable to farmers of the time.

Actuly not have the right to repair your tractor is only a thing in America. Becouse its the only place were you can Lobby the shit out of everybody

yeah, and with a crap ThinkPad hooked up to a 20 year old machine, he'll still get it fixed. (though it might take a little bit longer) On most of these machines, there are items that are almost "wear and tear" so you just know when a lift stops working that it's a certain $0.15 rubber o-ring. But when the rules in place state that you can't bring your machine back out of limp mode "legally" after you replaced it for the 4th time?

Idk if yall know any farmers but they almost automatically know what is wrong with their tractor as soon as something fucks up

@@joneubanks9686Above o-ring comment is personal knowledge, haha!

@@knappyfro1 respect.

@@knappyfro1 oh shit yeah

It’s an interesting history, he just put a spotlight on it. Love this channel

But tractors are interesting

6420 is a good tractor.

@RootstownFarms Expect a Fiatagri or a Valtra

@RootstownFarms Any tractor is good unless it is a kubota

Usually the dealer has the towing capability, and competition from case mostly keeps them in line. What's maddening is the John Deere business model: make a part everyone else sells for $100, paint it green, sell it for $500.