JOHN WICK CHAPTER 4 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW 

I was going to purchase all four but they weren't in stock. Oh well. One day I'll probably give the first film a go and see how I get on from there. John.

Great review, John. I rewatched the first three in preparation for this release and it definitely helps. It also makes you appreciate the amount of fun the makers were having with Chapter 4. For such a long film, it nevers drags, and you get the impression they wanted to make this (presumably) final part a tribute to the character, rather than burdening him with too much additional plot! I know there's an unwritten rule that the first film in a franchise is always the best, but JW4 makes a strong case for itself. I thought it was magnificent.

@@andyessex Morning Andy. You may find it interesting to read through the comments on here so far because it's generated rather a mixed response which has surprised me somewhat. I expected everyone would be raving about John Wick 4 but it seems that most prefer the first film. I can't comment as I haven't seen it but this sort of thing has happened before where many of us see the latest film and having enjoyed what has gone before have loved every minute of the latest sequel. But then years later, we look at the series again and can see the first film was best. The film I'm thinking about most here is Return of the Jedi which we all seemed to unanimously love at the time of release in 1983 but when we looked at it again years later we wondered what the bloody hell was so good about it! I do still like Return of the Jedi but it's comparatively poor against Star Wars and most of us see that now in spades. John.

​@@moviecollector5920hard for me to believe how possibly can a 35mm print be superior to a 4.5k video format in terms of detail and sharpness? Ofcourse video won't look a bit softer or have that film grain like texture to give it a "cinematic" look (it also depends on the kind of lenses that were used),if that's your look of preference. Video format has come a long way. I get it that a 35mm = 5k something but those are just numbers and the perceivable difference would be if you have 200" plus screen and you are sitting just 8 feet away. Just my thoughts

@@arkcave149 It's all mainly down to perceptions but there is sharper resolution from 35mm negative when fine grain stock is used and it's full frame 35mm such as 2.40:1 anamorphic. That doesn't mean a general release print would have greater resolution than a 4.5K video but the way things are done now means that a movie shot on 35mm film will have better end results than 4.5K video. However, much of the problem is that it requires more skilled technicians and there aren't many of them now as the years of experience we had before the big downgrade in 2011 has been reduced because people have gotten older and retired. Many have also been moved onto shooting with video and inevitably things they used to know when handling film cameras has been forgotten. Directors such as Christopher Nolan have the clout to get films made on the best formats known to man and that is why his more recent films are right at the top of the best quality 4K discs so far released. Video is great now and no longer the poor relation but until Doug Trumbull's shutter in video cameras and video projectors method is widely adopted, it's never going to quite match the perceived quality of film. Although having said that, I seem to be able to get my budget home video projectors to present imagery that is better than the professional video projectors in cinema in terms of representing a facsimile of film. My theory of why this is so is because everyone in the industry now is rather obsessed with brightness and the brighter an image is the better it is. This could be the main reason why cinema video projection looks so harsh compared to film but the lack of a shutter is another factor. John.

That is exactly the reaction the film makers were looking for. Well done. John.

That doesn't surprise me because this fourth film was lacking in back story so I presume it was all covered in the first few films and now possible story lines have run out. John.

I imagine they've run out of possible story lines now Boss to it's just a non-stop shoot-em-up which seems to be what most John Wick viewers want. In that regard, it's a great action flick. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks, John; I agree. the simple storyline of the first two films has been followed by threadbare premises and increasingly absurd scenarios, but I understand that some audiences appreciate these aspects of the latter films in this series!

The definition should have been better as it was being passed off as IMAX but it still looked like a film and we can't ask for any more than that from a movie shot on video. Top Gun: Maverick excepted of course. John.

John Wick not a bad Flick. Thank you Jay. John.

Has there ever been another movie quite like it? Possibly not. I tend to prefer films that make me think but this got people back into cinemas so in that regard, who cares if there's not much else to it other than action, action and action? John.

@@moviecollector5920 Exactly. Ideally the action is part of the story with some proper jeopardy to boot, but I can still enjoy action cinema if it's not lazy i.e. well crafted and inventive.

@@feeblewhip8225 This film is certainly creative and innovative so mission accomplished there then.

I didn't know the dreaded Amazon had been offered a special edition of it. You'd think that would go to HMV as they actually support our high streets and shopping centres but I wonder if these things are put out to bid. John.

The image quality of this should be almost precisely what you saw in a cinema Dave as it's a simple conversion from the video master file to the format specific to the 4K disc. The Blu-ray hasn't converted well though but then it doesn't have the colour and density capabilities of HDR unique to the 4K discs. Definition isn't as good as I was anticipating but if it hadn't have been for the IMAX claim then I'd have thought it was excellent for a movie shot on video. It certainly looks filmic so quite an achievement in that regard which yet again confirms that video is no longer anything to be embarrassed about and the industry can probably drop the 'digital' label now and just call it what it is. I suppose saying it's digital makes the makers feel better about themselves so there's little chance of that. John.

I did rather expect everyone would have twigged it but it seems not, only a few of us. John.

I shall look out for Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas Michal as you've piqued my interest now. Never seen the film. Tonight we'll be looking at the 4K of The Firm which I haven't seen since it was in cinemas in 1993. I can remember a heck of a lot of it though which is probably a good sign. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I was actually going to mention The Firm! It’s one of my favourite movies of the 90s, there’s an undeniable charm to it, the cinematography and great soundtrack from Dave Grusin. I have watched it a great number of times from my bluray and the 4k is a definitely an upgrade in terms of detail and overall sheen. I’m glad you haven’t overlooked it among the 4k releases. Love that film!

Morning Neo. I prefer action films to have more story and character rather than one choreographed scene to the next for no apparent reason other than to showcase the capabilities of the film makers and the stunt men. Interestingly I think Mad Max: Fury Road is a much better film but I can't exactly tell you why. It's possible that we know all that we need to know about the characters in that one before the action starts and so for those like yourself who have seen and enjoyed the previous John Wick movies, you already knew all you needed to know before the video projector fired up. I do wonder if you'll look at it in years to come and wonder why you liked the fourth one so much though because it was so over the top that the main character had no vulnerability at all. It's a lot of fun and it drew crowds of youngsters into cinemas so that's all that matters. If it were edited down to two hours I think I'd have liked it a lot more but the thought of putting it on again for another near three hour session isn't something I'm likely to want to do for a few years. I do suspect I'll enjoy it more though which might seem contradictory given what I said above. The IMAX claim didn't help my enjoyment as it gave the impression it would be a bit special to look at like Top Gun: Maverick but it's not in that league. Without that IMAX claim I'd have appreciated the image quality more but the comparatively poor definition belied that IMAX label. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Understandable. I grew up watching HK action films, particularly of Jackie chan, Sammo Hung, etc. So yes I was more immersed in action than the story, not saying those HK didn't have a story but their story weren't exactly prioritized, especially for the 90s films. Each of the JW sequels isn't exactly a "complete story", and JW4 was meant to be the closing chapter. Even with lack of 3 dimensional characterization, watching them in order will give enough context to be enjoyable. Truth be told, one could say there was no need for any sequels as JW1 is a completed story and good enough on its own. I'm still glad these happened even if they are more video gamey. Unfortunately JW4 wasn't shot in IMAX, that's just the advertising to get people in theaters so the picture quality might not be comparable to Top Gun Maverick, or the upcoming Mission Impossible 7.

@@neobellic7258 The main thing is that each sequel made increasingly bigger profits Neo and that's unusual. I expect the first film found a massive audience on DVD and the people who enjoyed the DVD then went to see the second film at the cinema and it's continued to grow since then. I think the fourth film may have inadvertently spoiled similar success when John Wick Chapter 5: Zombie comes out because it was too long and that could keep people away from the a fifth but that remains to be seen. John.

@@moviecollector5920 that's why I'm really hoping John Wick 5 doesn't get made. I'm afraid it might turn into another fast and furious franchise if they don't stop now.

@@neobellic7258 Yes, they might send him into space!

it is also one of the best looking digitally shot films ever, the cinematographer and director understood the strengths of digital shooting so well, they pushed the colours way further than most film shoots can in the saturation and lit accordingly and it just makes the movie so vibrant and alive.

There's no doubt the look, colour and definition of this one is excellent. Just doesn't have quite the definition it should have given it was being projected on faux IMAX screens around the world. Should really have used better lenses or better video cameras but what do I know? Nothing wrong with it at all just shouldn't have pushed the IMAX name as it devalues that great name. Taken just as a movie shot on video - brilliant! Could have been passed off as a film actually. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I agree, I assume this must be a choice of the producers or something that just use that as a buzzword to get more people in cinemas, I can never afford IMAX most of the time and don't have one in my town so I often don't experience movies that way.

Keanu Reeves appears to have been directed to be almost robotic in this one so maybe it's not one of his better performances but who cares when the movie is as successful as this has been. The colour and density give this one a good filmic look but it is a bit lacking in definition and at the end titles I got up to check I hadn't knocked the focus out but alas, that's how it is. I was expecting more because of the fake IMAX labelling but it was nowhere near. I think most anamorphic 35mm are better over the past 25 years or so but it should be up there with larger format films which it certainly isn't. I bet it gives a much better impression on most tellies though simply because of the size differential which can disguise just about anything that may be lacking. If it hadn't have been for that IMAX association then I'd have probably been waxing lyrical about how amazing this is for a movie shot on video. John.

It did go too far but it got youngsters into cinemas Michael. It brought in a huge amount of money as a result so that has got to be a good thing. Let's hope OPPENHEIMER sets the cinema world alight and educates a few senior people in the industry so that they realize the errors of their ways over the past 21 years. John.

Once a week is the best I can do for RU-vid videos Paul as i generally take two to three days to put one together. Next one should be this evening. No modifications to the cinema yet I'm afraid. John.

I think it will take me a while to get to the earlier John Wick films Leroy as I did find this a bit tiresome, particularly when he couldn't get up those bloody stairs! I'll have to take another look at your review because I think that was when you saw it in the cinema so a few months ago. However, if you've done a 4K review in the past week or so then I'll be catching up soon. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I havnt reviewed the 4K but I may do later, only a fresh-out-the-cinema review. The first movie is much less kinetic though! 😆

@@filmdirt The general consensus on here does seem to be that the first film is best and gradually downhill thereafter and now reduced to a shoot 'em up, non-stop action flick. The huge box office success suggests it's what people want but I guess John Wick Chapter 5: Zombie will confirm that one or not. John.

Most comments on here do say the first film is best and steadily downhill thereafter so it all depends what people want to get out of a movie and with this one it seems that many like a computer game brought to life. It's been an education for me as I didn't think there was enough substance to John Wick 4 but it was enough for many and the fact that it brought so much money into the film industry and the cinemas who screened it is good enough for me. John.

Amazing. Well done again Cheekster.

Yes, take your brain out for three hours and enjoy the ride. John.

If you don't have any of them on 4K then that 1 to 4 box is £60 which is £15 each. That seems like quite a good deal to me given one of them is brand spanking and £25 on its own. John.

It is an impressive looking video. I hadn't seen any of the other three films when I watched it but Keith at Euphoria Pictures sent me all three over after I uploaded this video and they're all good. I think the first is the most enjoyable movie with this fourth one being about an hour too long but other opinions are available! John.

True - stunts should have always had a place in awards ceremonies but it might have the adverse side effect of encouraging people to take ever increasing risks. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Good point!

Both Extraction films were great

Absolutely. I feel it’s a new dawn for the modern action flick. Those films were great. The dna of 80s / 90s action is there but they are still all fresh takes on the genre. Exciting times 😃

@@ElectricGeek A bit lacking in the humour stakes though Andy and that's something that perhaps needs to be addressed in future. John.

It doesn't work as a standalone movie Luis, that's for sure. Hopefully I got that across in the video. Even though it was lacking in several respects, if you're prepared for a mindless roller coaster then it's still possible to have a good time with it. John.

My wife and I both thought it was about 45 minutes too long so it's good to know other opinions are out there. Who cares though as long as people enjoy it and it gets the masses back into cinemas? John.

Sorry but you do notice the running time totally. The other three were great and yes I saw this in the cinema and I too bought the 4k but I am sorry but this is the worst of the four. When Killa appears, I thought I was watching Peter Kay in a purple suit. This bit was a joke dire beyond belief. Yes, the fights were great, but it dragged and dragged. The best bit of the film was watching John go from room to room from above, taking out the bad guys. I think they should have left it at 3 films.

@@skywalkerranch I did not notice yes it was to long of a film mind you I was at home watching it

@@skywalkerranch To be fair, this was an all action shoot 'em up with little attempt at a story and in that regard it succeeds very well. Where I do think you're right is that it could have done with some trimming. I'd have chopped swathes out of it and most notable the ridiculous staircase sequence where I'd have had him at the top in about a minute at most. Loads of the early action would have been excised where it was obvious the stuntmen were waiting for the ordinary actors and actresses to complete their spinning around and before you know it you've got a tight two hour movie that rockets through from beginning to end. But that may not be what audiences want nowadays perhaps. John.

@moviecollector5920 Thanks for your feedback, John. Fantastic channel, by the way. Cheers. Watched Capricorn one tonight. What a fantastic film. Take care and keep up with the great content.

The look of the film made it. Actually, it could have been a film and I might have been fooled if it was listed as anamorphic 35mm. Just not quite as well defined as modern anamorphic 35mm can be. John.

Now THE MUSIC BOX was a masterpiece Barry. The topper at the end when they learn there's a driveway all the way up so they take the damned piano back down to do that just that is one of the best gags ever. John.

I expect I'll give the first film a try one day Rich. Not ideal watching the fourth as the first outing as I don't think many people would get on with it too well as a standalone. Fabulous for what it is but inexperienced film making in some respects. John.

That's a good point Henri because my wife and I did talk about the lack of comic relief in this. It's a no-holds barred action flick with little else about it at all. In that regard, there's possibly never been another quite like it. John.

It's not a great film in the conventional sense Pieter but for those who like action above all else and those who like to see computer games brought to life then it's possibly among the best there has ever been. I tend to prefer movies that make me think so it was lacking something in that regard for me. Fortunately it was a huge box office success and that is damned important now more than ever. John.

He's probably been taking plenty of vitamin D supplement tablets Craig! And K2!!! John.

If it weren't for your enthusiasm for this film I wouldn't have taken a look at it. It was a shame HMV didn't have the 1 to 4 box in stock but it did mean that I was able to purchase a couple of other new releases for possible review so it's not all bad. One day I think I'll give the first film a try because it's unfair to judge a third sequel as the single, overall impression of a series. I was hoping John Wick 4 would be a popular review to give your channel as big a boost as possible. I think the sections I slipped into this video show the good quality you offer so if enough people see it then hopefully you'll get a few new subscribers and viewers.

@@moviecollector5920 that means a lot john! 😃 glad u properly reviewed the disc as i just didn’t have time so an unbox i hope sufficed. I really appreciate the shoutout and it’s helped to no end so thanks again 👍

@@ElectricGeek I tend to watch most RU-vid videos on the telly but there's no chance of putting comments in through a Smart TV so I want to let you know how much I enjoyed your video last night. I've been finding some bargains lately such as the 4K of The Town for £2 in a charity shop plus a few other 4K's for between £2 and £3.50 for the triple disc of TENET. I needed a second copy of Tenet so that way handy because my original disc has packed up. That's the fourth 4K I've spotted so far that's developed a similar break-up until it freezes fault. I don't think many 4K collectors look at their discs very often so I do wonder if there's a bigger problem out there waiting to be uncovered. I've also been finding some pretty good Blu-ray titles in a 3 for £1 deal. Fortunately, unlike yourself, no one has recognized me in any shop yet so I think never putting my phizog on a thumbnail has been a good plan. It has happened though but fortunately I haven't come across any nutters yet, only intelligent people who are genuinely interested in film.

Evening Martin. I was hoping a director's cut would be 45 minutes shorter but someone has got too powerful methinks. I've seen NOBODY and I think it's much better than this film. That one was a real surprise and I really enjoyed it. I didn't think John Wick 4 looked too digital, in fact I meant to say it looked filmic and a good facsimile of a 35mm anamorphic film but just lacks the definition of a 35mm which could be down to lighting or lenses chosen. Amazing quality for a video though even if it's not up to the IMAX label that was applied to fool the unsuspecting. I think that raised my expectations. John.

Evening John, I must admit, I think with a little editing and shortening it would make the film a little better. However as you pointed out it’s not really a thinking movie and more a strap in and enjoy the ride film. Maybe the digital look I found comes from me watching it on a TV compared to projector maybe. Compared to something like Maverick it’s no contest. I enjoyed Nobody more too compared to this film, so I suspect you may enjoy the other Wick films as they hold a little more story to them rather than just walk to wall action. I look forward to your next review. Kind regards Martin

I second this man’s recommendation of Nobody John 👍 From a lot of the same team that put the Wick films together but with a little more character depth and dare i say it, slightly more believable 🥴lol

@@ElectricGeek I thought NOBODY was a better film Andy. I suspect it was influenced by the first John Wick film though so not fair to compare it against one of the sequels. John.

My wife and I were just talking about that ridiculous staircase ordeal owing to an earlier comment and I suggested that the same director has done all four films so it's possible that no one dare speak up when he's taking things a little too far for fear of losing their job. This does happen when some directors are consistently successful and they stop listening to others. I'd have chopped it down so that he got up the stairs as quickly as possible. The Warriors is a great film. 'Nuff said. I was told about the collapse of Network a few minutes after the staff were told they were being put into liquidation. The owner had died a year or two before and since then business had all but disappeared so that's probably the reason for it more than anything else people might be saying.

Could not agree more. One of the audience members actually said… that they (the filmmakers) were taking the p**s! Could not agree morw

Whoa! While you're there Roy, see if you can get some video of the store. If they don't let you shoot inside then just get some photos of the exterior and its surrounding location so we can all get an idea. I'm rather excited that HMV have reopened in the Republic of Ireland. Order has returned to the universe. John.

@@moviecollector5920 yea il do my best John to get some footage for ya👍👍

@@RoyMurphy1 Good man. We may even help young Keith at Euphoria to get out of his pod and head into a physical media shop for a spend up!

@@moviecollector5920 what a great idea..... I'll say it to him😝😝

I think that was the intention because there is no attempt at a story or a break from the action of any kind. I found it all a bit too much towards the end but the main thing is this movie got people into cinemas and that's the main criteria that defines success or failure. This was a huge success. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Wick #1 was the best, it had a real story line with TONS of action. That is the Wick my wife LOVES!!!

I certainly was drained. I do not recall the last time I was so bored at the cinema. This, The Flash, Avatar 2 and Bullet Train were the most boring movies I’ve seen at the cinema in recent years

@@spaceodds1985 Too many movies are too long now and that's a part of the problem. Some films need to be three hours long (Dances With Wolves springs to mind) but others that run to that sort of length are sometimes caused by powerful directors being a little too self-indulgent.

@@moviecollector5920 Could not agree more.

Send 'em over Steffy!!! John.

@@moviecollector5920 to good to give up

Merci beaucoup comme toujours Alain. John.

I've been sent the first three films by Keith at Euphoria Pictures so I'll be watching the rest of them soon. I suspect the fourth film will make a little more sense once I've seen the preceding three. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I love all four Films!!! It is an excellent Franchise, I think they are making a Spin Off with one of the characters from Chapter 3.

I could do a review of Avatar Gary, but you wouldn't enjoy it much! I have only seen it in 3D though so maybe it's better flat and with about 2.5 hours cut of it!!! I'm sure I'd love the sequel though. John.

Ah, now all you've said makes a lot of sense to me Tom because I don't care for martial arts films. I can watch extracts and bits and pieces but I just don't get on with them otherwise, not even Enter The Dragon which I haven't seen for years but even at a young age I remember not thinking that much of it. The action choreography in John Wick 4 is amazing even if I did pick up on the limitations. I would have edited around most of that to disguise it but I know how attached we can get to what we've captured and therefore want it to appear in the final product. Sometimes you just have to cut it and get used to the new version of the product and see how much better it flows when it all finally assembled. Some directors get too powerful though and no one is able to stand up to them. I do wonder if that is the case with this film. The running time does suggest a bit of self-indulgence because I'd have sat at the table and cut and cut and cut until I had it working at around 2 hours. That would not only make for a more easily watched film but would help cinemas to get the money in because almost three hours means one less screening every day. I hope there isn't a sequel to NOBODY because it works fine as a standalone and it would get tiresome to run the same thing again. I suspect I'll think the same when/if I finally look at the first John Wick film. Surely he couldn't have played Superman in that one because without any vulnerability it wouldn't have worked. Only now there is a fan base can the makers get away with that methinks. The fundamental thing about John Wick 4 is that it made a huge amount of money for the industry and cinemas. That's the main criteria in defining a successful film. John.

@@moviecollector5920 so apparently the original edit was 4+ hours long and this is the cut down down version!😂 I think the fact that it still made huge profits and gained positive reviews shows that the runtime hasn’t really affected it. I would usually say similar to you and 90 mins-2 hours is usually a runtime I prefer for films especially in this day and age when almost all “blockbuster” films seem to needlessly be 2.5-3hrs long. For JW though I’m actually happy it watch this length. There is clear passion and dedication in every single scene from everyone involved. We’re going to see Mission Impossible at the BFI IMAX next and I’m very excited about that one!!!

That's a good theory and I like it. I don't suppose Warner Bros. would ever sanction it though as it's not their film. The Matrix homages weren't lost on me and I did comment on it while we were watching the film. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I'm sure it would never be acknowledged publicly. You might already know this but the director was the stunt double for Reeves on the original Matrix. I think the original John Wick movie 4k disc is an upscale from a 2k DI, but it looks good. Not sure on a big screen like you have, though. The original John Wick was pretty low budget and developed a following on home video. It's still filled with action but has more of a story.

@@hdavemi6667 2K upscales do benefit from the VistaVision effect if they've been shot at higher bit rates and/or with good lenses so that's not much to worry about. Where it doesn't work so well is when a 35mm negative has been transferred at 2K when the original equates roughly to 6K but I think that is largely caused by ignorance in the film industry who have been convinced that film isn't as good as digital video so the lowest viable option will do. I did look up the box office gross of the first John Wick film and I think the budget was around $20m and the worldwide take was around $80m. That at a time when disc sales were still very good indicates it was another massive financial success even if half the box office is for the cinemas screening the film. It sounds to me like the John Wick film has run out of steam as story seems to have gone out of the window almost completely. Who cares though when they are more successful each time at the box office? If it's what people want then serve it up to them and regenerate the film industry with the profits and generate decent income for cinemas wherever possible. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Interesting! Thanks for the information! Absolutely! Post-pandemic the cinemas need all the help they can get! Although, they might have a little more gas in the tank, as far as story goes for future installments. Chapter 4 wraps up most of what's happened in the previous films, but there are still many questions to be answered. Also, great catch on the homage to The Warriors. There's also a nice homage to the original Kung Fu TV series from the 1970s.

@@hdavemi6667 Rumour has it that John Wick is to return as a zombie in the fifth instalment. I didn't spot the homage to the Kung Fu series but then I only ever saw it back in the 1970's so it's not exactly imprinted on my brain these days... grasshopper!

No doubting it's achievements in that regard just lacking a little in character development and story. But when a movie is a huge success at the cinema then it's proof that something's right. John.

I agree Lenny. As a sequel this one doesn't really work so it would have been helpful if HMV had have had the 1 to 4 box in stock. But it's not really my kind of film so maybe it worked out for the best because I purchased another few new releases for possible review videos. Brilliant action choreography but I did find it a bit tiresome after an hour or so. It certainly needs re-cutting down to about two hours as far as I'm concerned but who cares when it did so well and brought in so much money to the industry and to cinemas? John.

@@moviecollector5920 Yes, it got a bit repetitive by the 4th movie, if you'd watched the first 3, might have liked it even less. The last hour is great though, the whole France tripple sequence on the streets, top-down in the house, and on the stairs. I too thought they probably should've done two movies out of this one, and made twice the money. Shorter, you say? Nah, they're making it LONGER, a 'director's cut' with 15 more minutes added is coming... 😆

@@LennyNero2019 The stuido have contact me Lenny because they're not happy with the director's cut and want me to give it a second go. I've already got it down to 21 minutes and I'm looking to trim it further. Seriously, two hours should be the aim for any film like this otherwise the film is at risk of losing half the audience. If there is a fifth film then it will be interesting to see if the box office finally starts to drop off as a result of this one being overlong. I really don't know how that would go so let's hope there's a fifth just so we find out. John Wick 5: ZOMBIE!

It could be passed off as a film Martin, no doubt about that. It's just not quite got the definition of a good 35mm which could be down to the lenses more than the video cameras used. John.

@@moviecollector5920 yea but it would need to have an exceptional trick of the lenses to give a filmic look it just looks far too digital especially with the DV and HDR it gives it a neon dark look.

Morning Andre. I don't think this John Wick 4 movie is among the best movies any of us will ever see but for gamers who like to see their games brought to life I expect it's quite special. Lop three quarters of an hour off the running time and I think most of us would have appreciated it even more. With regards to OPPENHEIMER, I'm still trying to sort that out but I'm not one of those people who has to be first to see a film when it's released. I'd rather relax and take my time. I expect the IMAX will be running it for a long time and hopefully will screen some of the other Nolan IMAX films too as a result of the success of the new film. John.

I know the first film is the best judging by all the comments on here but it will take me a while to generate the enthusiasm now. I think I'll enjoy it when I do finally watch it though but there are so many movies to watch and so little time! John.

If you didn't like the second then judging by the comments so far on here you're not going to like the fourth because there is no semblance of story or character. It's basically a shoot 'em up computer game brought to life for almost three hours. There's much to admire on screen but I think you and I prefer movies that make us think rather than leave our brain out in a pickling jar for the duration. John.

That was partially my point Finlay, it's not IMAX and not suitable to wear the famous badge at all. It's a great looking movie shot on video but not up there with modern anamorphic 35mm. IMAX is nine or ten times the size of 35mm and there's no way they could pass off 35mm as IMAX even though it looks damned good on the BFI IMAX 85ft wide screen. It certainly should not have been done with John Wick 4. I would have been raving about the image quality if they hadn't have tried to associate it with IMAX because for what it is, it's excellent. John.

Now The Hunt For Red October was a very dark film on 4K disc. I think it was just the special effects of the submarine but whether or not it was like that on general release I don't know because it was one film I didn't see in a cinema. John.

Just about everyone has said the first film is the best. I'm not entirely surprised. John.

Not really the one to start with Adam as it's a relatively unique look and it may take you a while to get the best out of your new video projector - exciting news by the way and I hope you love it. Probably the best disc to put through it first is TENET and if that doesn't look like the best thing you've ever seen then start playing with the settings. Probably best to go to the last few chapters where Elizabeth Debicki is on on the boat with the wonderful cliffs and blue waters as the backdrop and then the teams are descending on the battlefield. Probably the best image quality ever committed to film and then shrunk down to 4K video... until OPPENHEIMER is released perhaps! John.

@@moviecollector5920 maybe your right, I also picked up the new Family Vacation UHD. That probably has a more natural look. Thanks!

I've seen thumbnails on RU-vid that claim Keanu Reeves is claiming his character is not dead yet. I've been having a few people on in comments on here that the fifth film will be called JOHN WICK 5: ZOMBIE but I think that may be just a little too ridiculous. The reference to the Warriors was probably the highlight for me. I thought everyone would have spotted it or known about it but it seems not. I think there are still quite a few people out there who haven't seen The Warriors or haven't seen it enough. I suppose that's what happens if you haven't grown up with Super 8 film and watched those treasured titles over and over again. John.

Be prepared for no story and no characterization but wall to wall stunts and action in the latest installment and you should have a great time. John.

@@moviecollector5920 as you were saying,leave your brain at the door. For some reason Keanu holds my attention,whether he’s in point break,Bram Stoker’s Dracula or Bill and Ted.

@@stephenmkeer He's got screen presence. Even when doing something completely different such as 'Something's Got To Give' he always brings something to a production and that's why he's a star. John.

That 'Optimized for IMAX' label made me expect that better video cameras would have been used that also included some of the faux IMAX taller frame ratios of 1.90:1 to fill the screens of the many faux IMAX cinemas around the world today. I think there should be different names for all these ordinary IMAX formats starting with the dual video projector version labelled 'IMAX LITE and then more downgraded names all the way to the 2K rubbish still claiming the great IMAX name'. At least the paying public wouldn't be under the illusion they're seeing something in genuine IMAX with different names on all the sub-standard versions. But it's all about money now so the present owners probably don't care much about preserving the quality of the name just as long as enough people are mugged into thinking they've just watched something a little bit more special. Rant over. Sorry about that. John.

Not my cup of tea either but the box office success of this one suggests it's what a lot of people want. Nothing wrong with that but I'll be sticking with Jason & The Argonauts too. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I heard a rumour that a 4K version of Jason might make it into one of the future ‘Columbia Classics Vol x’ sets… I do like those sets, and the included book is fabulous. Cheers

I was a member of the BFI for years and had some great evenings down there. That was when I lived in the West End but those days came to an end early on when the anti-car policies started because I could see what was coming and knew it was time to get out of my home town. Terrible times and heartbreaking to finally sell up and bail out but it had to be done. Quite a few comments have said similar things about the John Wick films but you're the first to say about the John Wick character turning into a superhero. I'd have preferred a shorter film with a little more vulnerability because it got too ridiculous by the end of it. Apparently the fifth film is going to see John Wick return as a zombie!!! John.

@@moviecollector5920 haha now that I would pay see! A John Wick zombie movie sounds like fun! I don't travel into central London and greater London nearly as much as I used to with all the ulez fees and restrictions, I think it must affect the businesses as well as the residents being so car unfriendly.

@@nick1635 The effect on business when the congestion tax was first brought in was immediate. Almost every specialist shop I used to frequent went within about six months with only two or three survivors out of the whole lot. Years later web shopping would have done similar damage but this was all down to the congestion tax at the time. Apparently Bristol is going through something similar now but I hadn't heard about a congestion tax there. Birmingham has something so that's now off limits and only today there were reports of the damage inflicted on business in Brighton owing to anti-car policies which is reckoned to cost £1m per annum. That doesn't sound as catastrophic as the estimated £3Bn inflicted on London with the first congestion tax but then Brighton is a pretty small location by comparison. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Thats a real shame, I have a friend that lives near Birmingham and is delaying buying a new car as he doesn't want electric and is worried about Euro 7 emissions standards that the car industry is trying to keep quiet about as he doesn't want to buy a car and then have to sell it in 2 years to avoid the restrictions.

@@nick1635 Electric is the filthiest possible method of building a car so he's right not to go down that route. There's an environmental and economic catastrophe awaiting this country if the moron politicians press on with their attempt to make conventional car production illegal. Toyota are apparently making significant strides with hydrogen but synthetic fuel looks to be the preferred environmental solution. If only people knew about synthetic fuel we'd probably see a growing movement to promote it with loonies like the Just Stop Oil protesters at the forefront. It does appear to solve everything and tick all the right boxes. But no one knows about how it's produced as I said. If only they did then I think the world could relax because it points the way forward for any possible problem with the Earth's atmosphere now or in the future. John.

I would have bought Ronin if it was available here Andy but it isn't. Importing them isn't cheap so it will have to wait. John.

I think I'll get to the first and then probably the second eventually. The fourth film is a stunner in many ways but it's not quite the full ticket somehow. The box office take confirms it is what the people wanted but it does seem that the first film has to have been seen to stand any chance of picking up where the fourth film starts off. I'll give it a while then try the first film sometime and see how I get on from there. I think it will help me to enjoy the whole series. John.

@@moviecollector5920 the 1st film was an unexpected sleeper and a "smaller" film i might add. 4th film while enjoyable is more Fast and the Furious than John Wick. Things really started to get larger than life with the 3rd film. For me 2nd film was good balance between style and a bit of substance.

Good call there Clark because the only duffer in the Mission Impossible series has been the third one but that was J. J. Abrams first film and I think that poor entry might have worked for him in the long run because look at the films that he's done since and evidently the mistakes of MI3 were learned from. John.

@@moviecollector5920 I’ve been re-watching them all and I actually really like MI:3 story but the action was too choppy. However, Philip Seymour Hoffman was immense as the villain. MI:2 is the worst for me - literally nothing happens at all (story, action, plot, characters…) until the last 30min - and the action hasn’t dated as good as other entries. However - can’t wait to watch Van Damme’s Hard Target by John Woo - that film is a classic.

@@ColonelSternlove I've had Hard Target for about 30 years now - PAL LaserDisc. It's similar to MI2 and Broken Arrow owing to the slow motion used so often by John Woo. I like them all but I don't think any of them are completely brilliant. Of the three I think Broken Arrow is the most repeatable. I think I saw that one at the Odeon, Marble Arch on the 58 foot curved screen. I think the best Van Damme is TimeCop. Saw that one at Universal in L.A.. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Best Van Damme for is either Double Impact or Hard Target. Nowhere To Run is underrated and Death Warrant was his best thriller.

We both found this one a bit tiresome but it's not a traditional sequel and as it did so well, who cares? Any film that gets people back to cinemas is good in my book. I haven't heard anything about Three Thousand Years of Longing so you'll have to tell me more sometime. I do struggle to find enough time to watch movies but I hope to change that from next year because I no longer seem able to work the extremely long hours of just a few years ago. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Then it is time to discover additional hobbies and retire! Perhaps you need more sleep or outdoor walking in fresh air. That usually clears up mind and gives much more energy than coffee or any other remedy! About "Three Thousand Years of Longing": It was filmed by George Miller - the same director, who made "Mad Max", "Babe" and "The Witches of Eastwick". Just take a look at the trailer. I know that the story is loosely based on a book by same title, but very loosely. The movie looks very interesting, but I have not seen it yet. I hope we all like it! Dmitri

There have only been a few IMAX films over the past ten years or so JarJared and I think it's only Christopher Nolan still making them and finishing them on 15/65 film. The second Dune movie has used the 1.43:1 aspect ratio but it wasn't shot in IMAX, it was only a 4K video. However, the good news is that the industry took note of the success of OPPENHEIMER and did blow-up 15/70 film prints. I hope to get to see one of the 12 prints at the BFI IMAX next week if I can so I'll then see how successful it is to enlarge something approximately one-fifteenth of the quality of 15/70 onto that almighty film gauge. I think it could look surprisingly good. John.

I might have a look at them on Blu-ray sometime as they're virtually free nowadays. John.

It looks pretty amazing video projected too but the size differential shows up the slight lack of definition. Ordinarily I think I'd have raved about the video quality given it's not a film but looks just like one, but the IMAX claim set my expectations a little too high. Still, it was obvious the clarity wasn't as good as current anamorphic 35mm so they shouldn't have tried to associate it with IMAX. John.

I might give the first film a chance eventually but I think you're right as this certainly wasn't the one to start with. But there are some very good pluses in this one so even though there was no apparent story to work out or anything much to concentrate on, the look of the movie was excellent and the stunts and action choreography must be among the best ever attempted. It's certainly unusual to be able to watch all that action without that bloody awful shake the camera all over the place and cut away ever two or three frames so spot on there and I don't think anyone would disagree. John.

The 1 to 4 box is £60 here. I would have got it but it wasn't in stock so I compromised with just the fourth film and a few other new releases that are possible review videos COMING SOON! John.

I will get over and take a look. Don't know why it hasn't appeared in my feed yet but maybe it will next time I'm in on my smart TV. There's a lot that we can criticize about this film but it all becomes insignificant when you consider the money it's made for the industry and cinemas in general. John.

I'm even later really Joel as I now have the first three films to watch on 4K. I suspect the fourth film will make more sense once I've seen them. John.

@@moviecollector5920 i watched the first 3 john wicks in 2021 and 2022 and watched chapter 4 on opening week or day i can't remember and i loved it the John wick series is in my top 10 adult film series and to be honest chapter 4 did well but I'll always pefer a lot stuff from chapter 1 and 2 but chapter 4 is good time but chapter 3 was the worst one in a lot areas but my goodness the fight scenes in 4k are bloody beautiful

It's possibly worth it because eventually you'll have to get a replacement telly (or preferably video projector) and at that point you'll be able to watch all your films anew. You'll never leave the house! John.

I'd decided I wasn't going to take a look at another Wick film for a while Noel but a kind soul in Ireland is sending the other three to me so looks like I'll be seeing them sooner than I expected. John.

@@moviecollector5920 while I enjoy the series, the first movie has a special place, I'd be interested in your opinion compared to say the video game fourth movie

The Blu-ray of this one is comparatively poor so maybe hang on for a while if you can and then get the 4K when it's a little cheaper. I wouldn't recommend the Blu-ray given how it looked on my system. You'll have to let me know how you get on with the 4K of HEAT. I like having home videos that replicate the look of a movie as it appeared in cinemas and HEAT is certainly one of those even if everyone else thought there was something wrong with the 4K until I came along and had projectionists from back then confirm my recollections. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Cheers John, Ill pick up the box set then as I dont own any J.W 4k's I'll give HEAT a watch on Saturday and let you know, as with running man Im wasnt expecting crystal clear video just an upgrade and it being the best its ever looked, I had a sneak at running man and loved the new look ( even with grain at times) so Im hoping Heat is the same with slight colour sharpness but still having the essence of video.

@@C4rL72 I think you'll find the 4K of HEAT is not like any version previously released on video. The closest match will have been a 35mm master print or perhaps general release print. I saw a general release print when it was in cinemas but I can't remember the exact look, only that I recall how dark it was and in particular that scene where you can barely see Robert De Niro in the shadows. It's the same on the 4K which apparently is wasn't on any previous home video. It's amazing that film can be matched so closely now with the latest home video format. I never would have thunk it possible! John.

@@moviecollector5920 Just had a play with Heat, first impressions are it’s dark however the more you watch it the less it becomes but it’s still a disc that needs attention prior to viewing The PQ is superb given the age but what sells this apart from the film itself is the AQ Id give it 8/10 PQ and 9/10 AQ if the darkness was tweaked Ironically the pause menu thumbnail is brighter ! It’s just a good job we take these cons as the film it’s worth it no matter what the flaws Regards Carl

@@C4rL72 I know we already discussed this but just in case anyone has stumbled across this without knowing the rest of the conversation that is how HEAT was on general release though Carl. The reason everyone tends to think something has been messed up is because previous home movie releases have been taken from low contrast prints which is because televisions could never cope with film quality and so to ensure a minimum of complaints everything was issued with the brightness falsely boosted. HEAT is the primary case in point. It's not as close to how it was as can realistically be achieved but Michael Mann did darken things up here and there and brighten things up elsewhere. He was only able to do this because you can with computer video editing. We never had such exacting control over a photo chemical process. John.

Yes, some of the killings in this were almost suicidal. But as I said, there's so much going on and so much choreography without quick cuts that we just have to accept the stunt men had to hang around for split seconds at times before the actors or actresses were ready to blow their brains out! John.

@@moviecollector5920 Haha true! It was a visual ballet of action! Love the channel and reviews!

Most have said the first film is best. Not a surprise entirely but I expected the fourth film would have been more popular than it apparently is. I think many of us noticed the lack of story and character as well as it being far too long. John.

@@moviecollector5920 they do tend to get more overblown as they go on, and in all honesty though i appreciate the action scenes in the latter movies for me narrative is king in a movie and one i just superior. all the "oh wow" moments the sequels have in the action scenes you got in character revelations and story in the first film. i look forward to perhaps a future video on the first one as i think you truly will enjoy it. take care, and thanks for the videos.

@@Classclown1.0 I will try to watch the first John Wick. If I spot a 4K singing like a bird in HMV I'll probably grab it. John.

I didn't spot an homage to Lawrence of Arabia unfortunately so sorry if I missed something. John.

@@moviecollector5920remember the shot in Lawrence where Peter O' Toole blows out the burning match stick followed by a match cut shot of the rising sun. An almost similar shot is present in John Wick Chapter 4. Also the vivid vistas of the Arabian desert are a clear homage to Lawrence. The guy in the black robe with a black head scarf and the head gear was clear a reference to Omar Sharif's character in Lawrence.

@@arkcave149 Thank you for pointing that out. I can remember Omar Sharif's black outfit now that you mention it and possibly Peter O'Toole blowing out the match or putting it out with his fingers but it's not a film I've watched very often - certainly not as much as The Warriors. I never had Lawrence of Arabia on Super 8 so only the Blu-ray and it's a bit of a disappointment given it's 65mm origins. No doubt the 4K has sorted that out though, just a shame it hasn't been released as a separate entity, other than that limited steelbook, so we can all buy it. John.

@@moviecollector5920 m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0ccB1KTzr9o.html&pp=ygUdbGF3cmVuY2Ugb2YgYXJhYmlhIG1hdGNoIGN1dCA%3D There's is the match cut shot from Lawrence. You will be surprised how John Wick 4 has literally such a similar shot.

Yes Keith, and they're bringing him back as a zombie so that instead of shooting all his enemies he's going to eat them alive. Should be a classic! John.

I suppose it was just the influence then Chris. I bet the gaming crowd love the John Wick films as it's the games they play brought to life on a grand scale. John.

@@moviecollector5920 as a gamer myself i didn't enjoy the 1st film at all

@@chrisburns7979 That suggests the first John Wick is an attempt at a conventional movie then Chris. I think that went out the window for this fourth film but it was hugely successful so it's not for me to criticize it for that. John.

I hadn't even heard of Sisu. I do tend to prefer films that have a little more story and mystery about them but we're all different and this was a huge success so that's good enough for me. John.

I don't think I've spotted them Carlos and don't know what they are. Sorry. John.

Right on the front in big numbers 15 on left in blue and 15 on right in pink ?? What does those numbers mean pg 15 so this dvd is rated

@@babymaker13th Aha, they are certifications applied by countries. The pink one is the UK but I don't know what the other is in blue. I never notice them whereas they drive other people completely nuts as they feel they ruin the design work on the covers. John.

Not the sort of thing we'd ever risk saying to John Wick I suppose cos' he might smash the living daylights out of us before asking who we are! John.

Very nice of you to offer Gary! I'll send you my address!!! Actually, the 1 to 4 box is £60 but HMV didn't have it in when I visited on Monday. £15 for a 4K isn't bad especially as one is a brand spanking new release. John.

@@moviecollector5920 trilogy $26 in the States.

I do suspect that Chad Chahelski is too powerful now and no one dare speak up. That does happen with successful directors at times. I'd have cut about 45 minutes out of this one but given it was a huge success at the box office I might have buggered up its chances. John.

I quite liked part two, but after that… it goes way downhill, with part four being utterly pretentious

Atomic blonde was class, at least it was realistic especially the stairwell fight, they were so tired they could hardly throw a punch. That's what fighting is like even 5-10 minutes all in . BUT hell Wick goes on for ever, even his poxy Kevlar weave suit stops rifle calibre and to top it all the guy can fall five floors out a building and hit a VW van before he face plants the cobble stones of Paris 🤔. I just watch them for the realism being a trauma surgeon and all 🤔😂

@@rikaardyyz3039 It's market is those who grew up with or still play computer games today. That isn't me and I think I'd put money on it not being you either Rikaard so just keep away from any further sequels but support the fact the film are being made while they're successful and getting patrons back into cinemas. I would be even more supportive if more mature films were getting others back into cinemas but so far that isn't happening. Perhaps OPPENHEIMER will do the trick. John.

It needs to be re-edited to around 2 hours and then I think they'll have something. I thought the film was more popular than the comments on here tend to indicate and clearly it's the lack of characterization and story but I think the main negative is the running time. Who cares as long as enough people want to pay to see it and it brings in a fortune? Great news for cinema. John.

@@moviecollector5920 the 4hr cut had expanded character development of the 3 main villians. YEN, SANADA AND SCOTT ATKINS

@@johnwhite3195 Sounds good then John.. Much of the early action scenes could have been cut and replaced with the character development and still kept the running time to around two hours. Having more substance should mean it would have been possible to get away with a slightly longer run time though. It was really an attempt to bring computer games to life so in that regard it doesn't deserve my criticism. I did think the film makers gave the impression of inexperience but they probably knew the audience they were aiming at and nailed it. John.

But they are increasingly successful so even if some of us may not appreciate them as much as others, that's a sign that the makers are serving up what a great deal of people want. It brings money into the film industry and cinemas too so that's the best news of all. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Good points John. Never looked at it that way. The more movies the merrier- something for everyone! Was wondering if you plan to go see the latest Indiana Jones film at the cinema. I was a huge fan of the first three. Crystal Skull was a big disappointment for me but going to give it another go soon on 4K. The latest Indy film seems to be getting very lukewarm reviews unfortunately 😕

That fills in some of the gaps in what I could find and work out about it. I do wonder if the lenses selected were to give the slightly softer look but the IMAX association appears to have been more than a little misleading. I don't know why it was applied to this film with it clearly not being as sharp as current anamorphic 35mm capability and also in the 'Scope format. IMAX is 1.40:1 but there are faux IMAX video projections at 1.90:1 so I thought it might have had two different aspect ratios for different cinema screens. It seems not so I think I can call that IMAX claim a con on this occasion. But people are easily fooled and I'll expect some to tell me they saw this film in IMAX as a result. At that point I'll probably go off on a rant!!! John.

@@moviecollector5920 Yeah. I totally get your rant. Since IMAX introduced in '08 the Digital "LIEMAX" in the 2K two projection system, the term has been very misleading and unnecessarily confusing. And, let's bear in mind that 2K Digital IMAX (1.90:1) is what you'll find most in worldwide venues, and blown up over big screens, this looks exceptionally soft - later came laser 4K Digital. This can even be traced back to the 2000s with their infamous DMR upconversion process used with conventional 35mm films which helped movies look better to some extent. IMAX has sacrificed its original 70mm quality in exchange for reaching a wider, global audience with 2K digital projections and upconversion. Creating new 70mm venues to show Nolan's productions, or DOCUs, is just not feasible. About 10 years ago, the company also came up with the initiative of "certified" digital cameras, and the Alexas LF and Mini LF (4.5K) belong to this elite class. Hopefully, most cinephiles are aware of all the types of IMAX formats and their features as well as knowing what cameras were used on modern "IMAX" films.

I will keep my eyes open in HMV to see if the first film is singing like a bird at any time. Just watching the fourth film didn't work and I think the first will be a little more cerebral as I don't really care for films where I have to take my brain out! Particularly for almost three hours! John.

@@moviecollector5920 My mates say chapter 4 is a bit of a slog. Not seen it myself yet. Yes the first film you will like it's very good. You see why all this fighting is going off. Cheers.

I fear that you may find the latest film to be more of the same Mark but I hope not. I tend to prefer films that make me think and this ain't it. I do like action movies but usually they have more about them than this too and certainly more humour to help them along. I did laugh once or twice in this but I think comedy relief was lacking a little. See what you think. There are plenty of good aspects to it irrespective of what I've said. John.

My wife and I both got a little bored with it to be honest so you're not alone there. I do think I'd have enjoyed it much more if I'd seen the first film because then I would have known who the characters were... possibly. John.

Thanks babymaker. John.

I found it to be like a computer game brought to life Oliver. Computer games are not my thing but the success this film enjoyed at the box office suggests it's what people wanted. The main thing is it's brought in money for the film industry and cinema and it couldn't have come at a better time. John.

I head that Neil and it's going to be about an hour shorter. Okay, I made that up. John.

Now that's a very good point. It does mean that there is no chance of it appearing at the USA Academy Awards next year though. John.

@@moviecollector5920 Does anyone watch the Academy Awards anymore? and I am sure the money it made at the box office will make up for the disappointment.

Still my favorite film of the year thus far.

There do seem to be a variety of views for this one. I didn't think it would be a film for everybody but that's probably to be expected owing to it being an all action film. John.

@@themtgdude486 Extraction 2 was far superior.

@@Kthomasritchie Lol. Ok. I must have saw a different film than you.

Yeah JW4 is along with The Flash the dullest movies I’ve seen at the cinema this year.

Unlike the presenter of this video! John.

That version of The Warriors I show is the Super 8 3x400ft cut down to about 48 minutes from Marketing Film International who had a deal for full length product from Paramount. That changed the movie collecting world because up to then all studios had insisted on 20% cuts for release to the home purchase market. I think The Warriors is a better film in this 3x400ft edition because it rolls along at such a pace and keeps you glued to the screen. A lesson for action film makers today perhaps. However, owing to contractual obligations the original front and end titles could not be used in a cut down. Gawd knows why but that was the way it was back in the late 70's/early 80's and that's the only downside to that wonderful release. Basic titles replaced the originals. John.