Johnkew Podcast Episode 3: Clash of the Titans (Power Paddles)

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0:00 Stories: Eddie to NC and John to Saudi
6:53 Latest News/ Gear Gossip
6:36 New PPA Serve Rules
11:40 Should we move to the drop serve?
14:14 Dekel's serve has never looked better
16:49 One of the best pro points ever?
18:45 Ge and Black
20:20 Alshon to PaddleTek
21:10 New Joola Paddle (Alpha)
23:20 New DUPR ball: Gamma Chuck
26:53 Pickleball Slam 2
30:29 Paddles of the Week: new Gamma Obsidians and Airbender
37:57 Gryp Balance 1
43:26 GRUVN MUVN 16S
45:19 ProDrive Encounter
48:38 Sword & Shield J1H
55:09 Gear Deep Dive: John's experiments with impact hammers, accelerometers, rebound, etc.
59:11 Gear of the Week: Safety Glasses
1:08:43 Six Zero and Volair Bags
1:12:49 Listener Questions: how does swing weight affect power and pop?
1:21:21 Wrap-Up
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@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Apologies to Eddie (again) for the Curse of Pickleball Will out-of-focus camera!

@PickleballStudio 5 месяцев назад

I'm so sorry that Will is haunting you guys too. I think he's trying to take down all the podcasts. One out of focus camera at a time. 😂

@terogan 5 месяцев назад

No manual focus on that camera instead of relying on autofocus? He isn’t moving around so should be set and forget.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

@@terogan That's the sad part - I switched to manual focus and spent a few minutes focusing directly on his face before we hit record. Still the ghost struck

@terogan 5 месяцев назад

@@johnkewpickleball Oh the pain… I felt that frustration in my gut!

@adamgrimwood6097 5 месяцев назад

Awesome stuff! Thanks again for the great content John

@courvilleg1 5 месяцев назад

Great show!

@nicobarraza802 Месяц назад

John you gotta do a full review for the airbender! That paddle has not been given enough attention. Super unique!

@Andrewbingham22 4 месяца назад

If you find yourself among those who invested in a high-priced paddle only to receive a defective one, with Gearbox refusing to honor the warranty, consider pursuing recourse through your local small claims court. File a claim to assert your rights and ensure accountability.

@shaun6666 5 месяцев назад

Great Pod…

@KO1967 5 месяцев назад

To clamp you paddle take a vice and make two jigs (one for each side) out of wood such that the each jig has 2 - 45 degree angles that will essentially grab the handle on the 45 degree bevels thus stabilize it in multiple directions. You could also add rubber to the jigs thus making the contact point not rigid (more like a hand). The challenge will be how to measure the force being applied to the handle such that you can keep it consistent between different paddles, especially given not all handles have the same beveling link the standard tennis racquet does.

@brianbanks3044 5 месяцев назад

i think if you took a garage door spring and cut it down to clamp in a vice and put the paddle handle into the center of it, it could simulate the rebound of a human hand....it is just an Idea in my head really quick but something along that line would provide consistent pressures

@kimleith1378 5 месяцев назад

Great 3rd pod. John the "stone tool" Kew has a nice ring to it. That BJ/CJ vs TM/DB 3rd was so great to watch. Black N Ge are gonna be a force. The serve issue is getting absurd. I hope the "drop only" NEVER gets implemented. I hit my serve almost out of my hand and below my knee. Not a ton of power, but always in. Also noticed the "sound" of the new Joola. Looking forward to the "CHUCK" and those new paddles. The AIR BENDER with the "throat hole" caught my eye. Speaking of eyes, I have six different brands of of eye pro and NEVER play w'o eye pro. Fogging is my biggest problem. Been playing in "Shield" stlye glasses that road cyclist wear.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Great observations - I forgot to stress how much of an issue fogging was previously, but my Rias have no fogging, which was amazing since I was sweating indoors. Have you tried the dish soap trick? Sounds too good to be true, but I haven't tested it

@ar15tac 5 месяцев назад

Grand junction guy here. Play with Legacy Pro have played with the gearbox a little bit. And have played with a few of Dave’s Komodo’s Very excited to hear your thoughts on them. I haven’t played with enough paddles to really have a great opinion on what the best paddles are. But I can tell you it’s a good paddle. I’ve played with them probably five games. Over here since they’re local, we probably have four guys or five guys, 4.5 level Or so that play with them.

@samuraistabber 5 месяцев назад

Love my RIA glasses. I have the transition ones and they’re great.

@PickleballStudio 5 месяцев назад

I will say, the CRBN Glasses are MUCH better when you take out the bottom frame (the part that makes it look like ski goggles). I thought they were so ugly when I got them, but after I took that part off, I thought they were much better. I also own the Oakley Flak XL and find them reasonably comparable now.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I saw you mention the CRBN glasses on your latest pod, and the do look way better without the bottom frame!

@brianbanks3044 5 месяцев назад

the new Rokne Aero Blade has 3 weight plugs you can add to the throat of the paddle

@Chris-jr6ql 4 месяца назад

@EddieK-PB Thanks for mentioning the specific model of Oakley / SportRX glasses you are using for indoors. Looking forward to hear what you will use for sunny outdoor play. Are you using nothing currently? If so, why would you not just use the same ones that you use for indoors? Have you looked at SportRX prescription sunglasses? Finally, since you mentioned footwear, I would be interested to hear what you like. I’m finding my Asics Gel-Dedicate 7’s don’t breathe well. Obviously stability is important.

@user-kd3ot7ng1p 5 месяцев назад

The weight located in the handle is something I've been working on, drill a 3/8th hole the length of the paddle handle, approximately 3 1/5 inches. Insert a 3 1/5-inch metallic tube inside the drilled hole. Install a lead ball inside the tube. Seal the end cap. The weight of the lead ball mostly depends on the desired weight requested by the user. Centrifical force is transferred to the paddle's head as the player swings.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Interesting. So the lead ball rolls up and down the tube during play?

@user-kd3ot7ng1p 5 месяцев назад

yes...@@johnkewpickleball

@KO1967 5 месяцев назад

Great pod. Valid point regarding inconsistency of the bounce on a drop server. That said if it is the only legal way to serve it stops looking stupid because it is what everyone, including the pros, are doing, and in time it will feel and look normal. And I agree, players should use every weapon they can (including the serve) so Dekel and big poppa jimmy will always have a nasty serve. And I don't personally like to use it but the drop serve takes "pushing the limit" (i.e. violating the rules) out of play and I fully disagree that it wasn't getting out hand and would continue to get more out hand the more referees are loose (i.e. don't call) faults on the serve.

@danpiedra3910 4 месяца назад

Thanks for a great update. I have always felt that pickleball bags are way overpriced for the size they offer. Few are worth investing in (CRBN, Volair, etc.). If you are looking for more space, tennis or squash bags are by far better and more economical. Bags like Wilson, Tecnifibre, and Yonnex, are far superior including the materials used.

@bryandbaker 5 месяцев назад

There is an advantage to the drop-bounce serve-it’s easier to generate more spin and more types of spin, especially backspin.

@wolf-xf6hf 5 месяцев назад

If you are regularly hitting a serve with backspin then you are doing something very wrong

@samuelpierce7664 5 месяцев назад

as a table tennis player I agree, there's less violations and while I almost always use a topspin or side spin serve, the various flicks I can give without worrying about it are more akin to what I can do with serve variation in table tennis in working the ball - it's great. Great to have you express my thoughts exactly

@bryandbaker 5 месяцев назад

@@wolf-xf6hfdifferent isn’t always wrong. Popular wisdom isn’t always right. Ben Johns often points out that pickleball is not a settled science.

@tonym753 5 месяцев назад

I prefer the bounce serve, less controversy, but not sure how much of a bounce it would get indoors

@brianbanks3044 5 месяцев назад

to help with mm to inches for us Americans...remember these easy tips...8mm=5/16".....10mm=a little bigger than 3/8".....13mm=1/2" approx......19mm=3/4" approx and 21mm=13/16" approx....that 10mm paddle must be ultra light and super skinny

@tbrophwg 5 месяцев назад

John, how much lead tape do you recommend for the Encounter? On my Ghost, I had to add .5 oz from the neck up to 10 and 2 which really made a huge difference on reducing the harshness of the Kevlar core and opening up the sweet spot nice and wide.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

I haven’t used any lead on it yet. It’s much less brittle than the Ghost stock

@jessemorgado1297 5 месяцев назад

Hey John, speaking of power paddles, have you tried the 002? A lot of Selkirk pros still use it and it would be interesting to see how it stacks up spec wise compared to more recent power paddles

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

I've hit with it years ago, but I don't have access to one to run the metrics

@samuelesh1997 5 месяцев назад

When will this be on spotify?

@terogan 5 месяцев назад

Big Poppa Jimmy has that serve figured out as well. Smoking hot. How much does the swing/motion of that unit add to the 1 joule of power? Thinking that if I’m moving forward and hit a ball it goes further/faster than if I stop before swinging.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Good point - you can also just press it into the paddle to trigger the spring mechanism, which is what I would do to standardize it

@johnclikeman5041 5 месяцев назад

Very interested in your section on the "Rebound" test. You said that the test wasn't effective because the results didn't correlate to pop results, but I wonder if what's happening instead is that we're finding a third measure of playability; rather than power vs. pop, there is actually power (energy imparted on full swings) vs. pop (energy imparted on short swings) vs. rebound (energy imparted without swinging at all), and each are different while telling you important things about how the paddle performs. It would be very interesting if you actually got a metric for the "springiness" of the paddle that measures only how effectively the paddle face returns energy back to the ball. This is worth looking for because while there are some factors like swingweight that correlate positively to power and negatively to pop, power and pop are positively correlated to each other. So there must be some underlying factor that contributes to both of these metrics, and "springiness" or something like it is the obvious candidate. It seems like this is the last fundamental property of a paddle that we don't have a way to measure yet.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Interesting thoughts. I need to go back to the data and have a look. I remember not being able to make sense of the rebound data, except noting that it correlated with swing weight. But maybe the thickness/springiness of the core also played a role. The Diadem Warrior and ProDrive Drive are both 19 mm cores, and they both scored high on rebound

@adamheath4599 5 месяцев назад

@@johnkewpickleballhonestly, judging by your scatterplots alone, there isn’t really a correlation between either pop and swing weight or power and swing weight. Granted, there are alot of confounding variables that would make it hard to actually see the correlations. But a .06 correlation coefficient is so small that it really chalks up to no correlation, generally in statistics, this does change from which field you are applying it to, a weak correlation would be considered 30-50% and a moderate would be 50-70% and strong would be 70%.

@richb8709 5 месяцев назад

Auggie plays in the AZ Tuesday Night Pickleball League and Jordan Briones had him on about a month ago for an interview. An easy guy to root for.

@lesterma1608 5 месяцев назад

Smash 2 Agassi paddle Komodo, but Mac was using whoo, whoo, OWL! Also forgot to mention the highest pickleball match purse, 1 mil. Also if you’re looking for protective glasses, that would be shooting glasses!

@bryandbaker 5 месяцев назад

New serve rule for that tournament, which I hear was pushed by players, is incredibly dumb. No less ambiguous, no easier to call. Just go to the drop-bounce serve.

@wolf-xf6hf 5 месяцев назад

Drop bounce looks so ugly

@samuraistabber 5 месяцев назад

Are those Six Zero demo Ruby in black behind you, John?

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

No, there is the original Ruby prototype in there somewhere, but it was also red

@BH-qd4yb 5 месяцев назад

Great podcast, as usual John! I’m a huge proponent of protective eyewear for pickle, especially as the game gets faster, more power paddle technology etc. Which RIA model do you have?

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Mine are the Reflex model. And for lenses I got the Court, Clear, and Hybrid Orange HD+

@BH-qd4yb 5 месяцев назад

John for lower light conditions outdoors ie cloudy or playing at dusk, do you like the Hybrid orange or the clear lens? (I’m going to order them with my prescription so not sure I need to invest in both.) Thank you! 🙌

@justin.stroud 5 месяцев назад

Can we get the Oakley glasses with sport rx lenses build info? Curious

@mikeosborne2228 5 месяцев назад

Yes I have a pair from SportRx

@CheetahPickleball 5 месяцев назад

Great video guys. I think you should change the metric for spin to RPS (Revolutions Per Second), because it's a more realistic depiction of how many times the ball spins before reaching another player...it never takes a minute. So a 1800 RPM becomes 30 RPS and a 1200 RPM becomes 20 RPS. The differences are shown, but aren't compounded by time. For that matter, FPS (Feet Per Second) might be a better depiction than MPH when you're considering the power of a paddle. So 50 MPH becomes 73 FPS and 45 MPH becomes 66 FPS. A 7 feet per second difference on a 44 foot pickleball court seems more impactful than a 5 MPH difference. It's a game of feet and seconds, not a game of miles, hours and minutes. I know it's all relative, but those are my thoughts.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Thanks, John. I see your point, and I like the idea of FPS, given that the difference is more obvious. But switching to RPS for spin would have the opposite effect, obscuring some of the performance differences among paddles. E.g., the best spin in my testing is 2,300 RPM. And some of the worst spin for RCF paddles is around 1,600 RPM. If you convert those to RPS, you get 38.3 versus 26.6. It's less obvious that these two values provide drastically different levels of spin.

@CheetahPickleball 5 месяцев назад

That's my point. In that one second, there is very little difference in spin metrics between paddles. This makes sense, because USAP puts limits on surface roughness and coefficient of friction. But if you continue the spin over a minute, the small difference adds up to a bigger difference. But there is never a minute between shots. So while RPM differences look good, they aren't really realistic.

@wolf-xf6hf 5 месяцев назад

Wow it’s so cool that you are an archaeologist since I’m also obsessed with paddle and in school to become an archaeologist right now. Totally random but if you could give advice to a newer archaeologist or someone like me in college what would you say?

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Nice! There are a ton of job opportunities in archaeology in the CRM private sector. University jobs are sweet, but very rare/competitive.

@TheLee64 3 месяца назад

Bar/McGuffin v Johns/Johns point mentioned: 16:53 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H0yKPoMWvSM.html

@iamrishio 5 месяцев назад

Padel, one of the fastest growing sports in the world, uses drop serves. Pickleball should learn from that and adopt it.

@robstever3896 5 месяцев назад

What did you have all over your computer screen Mr Kew

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

I don't know what that is! I normally can't stand stuff on my screen. Could be an illusion, given that I'm using the same computer now, and the screen doesn't have any smudges on it

5 месяцев назад

I really appreciate your content but was floored to hear neither of you knew who Auggie Ge was before this tournament. As a massive pickleball nerd and RU-vidr, how is it you do not watch the Arizona Pickleball League. It is the funnest pickleball watch there is, rivaled only by MLP or a PPA match like the Staksrud v Martinez-Vich gold medal match.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Yep, I have to start watching the AZ league more often!

@rkotnana 3 месяца назад

51:41

@shelbylangston329 4 месяца назад

There is no reason for a 300 adv bag. Lol

@johnlashorne9184 5 месяцев назад

Hey, I'm 71 rec player with a killer, legal serve!

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Hahaha, hey, I still get beat by 70-year-olds!

@MaybeCornbread 5 месяцев назад

Eddie sold me a CRBN sling bag!

@EddieK-PB 5 месяцев назад

It’s a winner! Love it for those quick trips to the court!

@echochapman7657 5 месяцев назад

Agree with your views on drop serves, it looks stupid and reinforces the appearance of a retirement village activity. The two reasons given are a) de-weaponize the serve and b) make the rules enforceable. I think that the former is ridiculous, and the latter has proven to be a complete failure. One set of subjective criteria has replaced the existing subjective criteria........ not to mention that the serve should be a weapon. Next, they'll say tall players need to bend over when they serve or serves will be done off a tee....... very lame. I would rather they deregulate the serve, anything short of an overhead.

@johnkewpickleball 5 месяцев назад

Right, I think the previous system wasn't perfect, but it worked. It's not like people were getting aced all the time

@samuelpierce7664 5 месяцев назад

When I teach new people I only teach the drop serve because it avoids the (for anyone who is already overwhelmed with the rules and especially what seems like weird and archaic rules for someone coming from Tennis or squash) violation heavy aspect of the volley serve - which seems essentially uninforceable. Local clubs here have you put a dot on your belly button, but thecontact point is easy to see but the tip of paddle is harder to see.