Johnny vs. Sonic and the Black Knight 

Glad to see how much John's grown since his original SGB review. He's calmer and precise, more willing to give the game a chance.

Sonic: Hey it’s nice to meet y- Merlina: THIS WORLD IS IMPERFECT

Hearing Johnny mimic Sonic’s voice and say “Death comes for us all” is something I needed.

you know, in retrospect THIS setting would've been better used for a Sonic RPG

5:07 Wii Menu: WOAHOAAAAH!!! Op FMV: WOAHOAAAAH!!! Title Screen: WOAHOAAAAH!!! Johnny: WOAHOAAAAH!!! His fanbase (Us): WOAHOAAAAH!!! HEY ALL!! (HEY ALL!!)

Still the only 3D Sonic game I've never played, actually been wanting you to take a second look at this one for aaages now!

2:12 “A more mature eye.” You never out mature spin chairs.

When you realize that Sonic and the Black Knight is an isekai.

Ok so with these new thumbnails we are getting a small "preview" of Johnny's opinions of the game. Compare Sonic colors and this videos thumbnail.

It's interesting to see just how much your style of reviewing games have changed after years of watching your old Sonic and the Black Knight review. It's awesome how much you improved. Loved the video as always!

Man, you know what Sonic needs, King Arthur. No, but seriously, I really like Sonic and the Black Knight. I think it’s one of the most unique games in the series just because of how out there it is.

For all this game’s faults, it has one of my favorite characterizations of Sonic (tied with Unleashed). He’s got that classic Shonen hero vibe and I love it.

"more mature state of mind" *Proceeds to spin in chair*

There are actually 5 knights of the round table in this game. Unfortunately, the other two are multiplayer exclusive. I guess during the main story they were off time traveling or riding skateboards or something?

"If you've been following this channel since the late 2000s" is a line that physically ages me way more than anything in this channel ever has

I'm really looking forward to the storybook coming so we can get the game we all want: *Sonic and the Animal Farm*

The only thing I think when I see this game: "UNAVOIDABLE CHIN MOVE"

I just realize, The characters that takes the place of the three nights sonic fights against were all Sonic’s rivals at some point. Neat.

Funny that this was the last time that 4Kids voices the characters, Cause Mike Pollock 'Not counting Sonic X' is the only 4Kids voice actor left to voice Dr Eggman since 2005.

They say that after the events of Secret Rings and Black Knight Sonic went straight home and burned his entire book collection

Fun fact, for "With Me", they were able to get Megadeth guitar legend Marty Friedman to play lead guitar on the track! Easily some of, if not the best guitar work in the entire series!

Imagine if platinum games made the combat for this game😫 and no rails... shit would’ve been fire

"just a reminder, you're playing a wii game."-Somecallmejohny, skyward sword and metroid prime 3 reviews

I have to applaud how much better your review style and critical eye have gotten over we the years. The old review boiled down to "Why does Sonic have a sword? 5/10." While here you give a full breakdown of the pros and cons the game has to offer and say who might enjoy this game or not.

I mean there is truth in the statement about the increase in positivity being related to only the fans of it still playing it

8:19 Given that this game was made in Japan. That whole little stunt could be a case of cultural confusion. Y’know how a lot of people just sum up Samurai as “basically knights but in Japan” well the reverse is true in Japan. TL;DR Knuckles was literally about to commit seppuku

For me SaTB (alongside Unleashed) was the last 3D game where Sonic actually sounded like a free spirited yet kind adolescent, now he sounds like a 20 something jerk whose self-aware of the fact he can mock his friends with 0 consequences (and his friends are "useless" without him). I miss Jason tbh but it's NOT Roger's fault he keeps getting cringe/meta humour scripts plus Sega's corporate interference that treats Sonic as a mascot FIRST and a character SECOND (hence why Sonic isn't allowed to be sad or have any meaningful character development in recent games).

Playing this on Dolphin with a button mapped to the swing makes this game a lot more enjoyable.

11:59 - "W-We're going to fall!" *slam dunks into lava* "I know, isn't it great!?" Also, that thumbnail is clearly the face of a man that has gone a week without sipping the coffee in that mug. I dread to think what it might taste like now.

Fun fact: Caliburn is the original name for the mythical sword Excalibur.

I was a pretty simple kid back in the late 2000's give anybody a sword and they're instantly like 10 times cooler in my book, but boy when I played this game....

5:46 HEH. Nice callback and jab at Richard Jacques’ meltdown over Tee Lopes’ remix of Sonic R’s “Can You Feel the Sunshine”, Johnny. lol

I remember playing this after your original review and actually liked it. I think I get pleasure from some mediocre, but I definitely think the looks and music really assisted in making this a memorable experience. Glad to see you went back to it!

Personally, I can't wait for the next game in the story book series: Sonic on the Western Front.

This is heartwarming, seeing John be more positive toward this game after so many years.

Seeing Sonic running through a field really makes me wish for an open world Sonic game. Imagine a world like Breath of the Wild except with more ramps and loops, and secrets only obtainable by building up speed and jumping off ramps the right way. That would be amazing. (Basically what all the fans are doing with their 3D Sonic fan games like Sonic Utopia)

Project: Needlemouse You deserve a cookie if you know what I'm talking about.

Here's a Then & Now of SomecallmeJohnny. Johnny then: This game is an absolute piece of shit and you should never play this! The story is shit, the gameplay is shit, the artstyle is meh, and the music is the only redeeming quality about this piece of steaming shit! Johnny now: The game is meh. Not terrible, but not a must-play.

Good that you're giving it another chance.

Honestly, am i the only one who never got tired out by the swordswinging? Johnny is far from the first guy i've seen complaining about getting tired out by swinging the Wii remote yet it's a problem i can say i've never had, and i've done more full playthroughs of this game then Johnny has done of '06.

If they decide to ever make a Switch version of this, they better fix up those controls!

I know I’ll piss people off by saying this, but I can’t love Black Knight. I don’t care about the story or characterization, the fact is the this game hurts to play. If I play for more than an hour, I will get carpel tunnel. Even Kid Icarus Uprising was easier on my hands.

It's a spin off game yet it has the best characterization of Sonic from all of the mainline games

I honestly really loved the writing in this game. The game itself is pretty meh, but I don't know, I legit consider this a great story and the best in the Sonic series. Just me?

2:12 "with a more mature state of mind" Yep that is me being an adult

This game is pretty underrated. It had a good story and the graphics were pretty good. The music also was absolutely amazing. It's just the controls and stuff smaller issues that being this one down.

Even with many of the issues that's present in this game, I honestly can't hate it because its my first sonic game (fan made games not withstanding) The music is amazing though

You know, it occurs to me that if they wanted to make a medieval Sonic game, instead of Arthurian legends and sword play, they should have done Robin Hood with a bow. Thematically I think it’s a better fit for Sonic, the Wii’s pointer controls are way more reliable than waggle, and I think it would just be interesting to have a high speed on rails shooter with light platforming elements.

uploaded 27 seconds ago. hmm.

The CG cutscenes look amazing.

Black Knight to me is definitely one of the "overhated' games of the series. Not the best, but dang it the soundtrack, transformation, and even boss battles and gameplay does have moments where I can't help but love!

8:14 "Hey hey! Death comes for us all at the end! It's about what you make of your life that counts. Not stop trying to kill yourself, Knuckles, because holy shit, that almost actually happened!"

You know being early here, this actually came on the right timing for me. So yea, i dont often say this but i actually appreciate the content on this channel

5:17 for Johnny going full “Hooah!”

I got this when I was around 6 or 7, fucking loved the game couldn’t finish the final boss tho. Was actually fun I liked the premise and I’d love to give it another go, it’s definitely nostalgia blinding me.

The entire franchise can be described as: "We know people like Sonic, but why?" "Fast paced and smooth gameplay in a well crafted and quirky platformer with the occasional really cool visual to give the feeling of maturity for middle-schoolers, adding to a feeling of nostalgia in later years?" "Nah, that's not it. Guess we will just have to try something random."

10:14 or in Sonic Underground’s case, if your gun doubles as a guitar.

I felt a little miffed when Johnny said you can change their "fighting style". Sonic is the one that changes the others are set to one of the three and each one is different, Cavalier focuses on speed, Knight focuses on balanced & Paladin focuses on attack. The three knights mimic those styles with Shadow/Lancelot being based on Knight, Gawain/Knuckles being based on Paladin & Percival/Blaze is based on Cavalier. The weapons you can craft increase their attacks & moves with the final one giving them their attacks from their boss fights. But I'll forgive John for not 100% liking the game my younger self would slightly agree with him on some of the problems but at the end of the day what one thinks of something could be completely different to someone else.

I actually had a lot of fun with Sonic and the Black Knight. My biggest issue with it was how short it was. The controls were much smoother than Secret Rings. The music is great as usual.

When I got a decent PC, I did another run through of this game on Dolphin, mapping the waggle to a button. God it is SO much better. The game is still pretty mediocre, that doesn't change, but it's so much more comfortable.

To be honest I really like the story of the these games

Caliburn: W- we're going to fall! Sonic (Burning in lava): I know! Isn't it great?

The beginning of this video really brings up an interesting thought for me: I think the big reason that Sonic Team has been playing it so safe with Sonic is that they're just so afraid of alienating people. You bring up at the beginning that this game was released at a weird period of Sonic's life where Sega was just tossing darts at a board to see what stuck, and from 2010 to 2011, we got Sonic 4, Colors, and Generations, which all scored pretty high and all played it pretty straightforward. Not to say those games are all necessarily bad (Generations is in my top 3), but they all kinda convinced Sega that playing it safe with Sonic and sticking with what they knew was the only way this series could stay consistent. Even when they _did_ try changing it up with Lost World, they ended up splitting the fandom yet again. I can understand _why_ they thought this was the right direction to take Sonic in, but they've gone about it all the wrong way. Again, not to say that Mania or Forces are _awful_ games (Mania is probably my favorite Sonic game period, and I feel like most people probably agree there), but they both suffer from a lack of new ideas (Forces more so than Mania). I get that they wanna keep Sonic consistent, but you can't do that if you're not willing to let the series get out of the past. It's okay to do new things, but those new things have to make sense and be well thought out. Anyway, I totally went off there, and I'm not really sure if I did a good job explaining my point.... Have a good day, folks. 🙂

The music in this game was amazing some of the best music Crush 40 ever produced for the Sonic franchise.

10:55 I know, right? It’s called Hyrule Warriors. In fact, didn’t you review that game before on the Wii U?

You don't even need to compare this to Bayonetta or Devil May Cry. Just compare it to No More Heroes 1, which came out 2 years earlier, and has better sword swings and motion controls than a lot of other Wii games.

Oh cool he's doing the individual expression thing for his 2D avatar. I wonder how many expressions have been drawn

cant wait for the Sonic 3d bast review!!

I got this game for my birthday when it was new. I was so hyped. To this day, it is my least favorite Sonic game for just how disappointed I was, and how mediocre it was.

You're right about the soundtrack being a saving grace, Johnny; even all these years later, I still love the Misty Lake theme.

0:50 Now there's a meme waiting to happen

Ah yes the Holy Grail wa- I mean Sonic and the Black night is overall a solid game.

I love how the thumbnails represent how John's gonna feel on the game now. Cute touch.

I'd love to see something like this given another shot. Improved combat mechanics, no rails, and no motion controls would make a pretty solid game.

Okay I laughed when he lip synced that "WHOOOOOAAAAAA!!!!!!"

I still think Merlina's one of the better one-off villains that Sonic's ever had. They actually do foreshadow it, and it's a believable reason for doing all of this. Everyone fears the end, in some way. Imagine being a character in a book that *knows* that it's coming, every day. Kinda gruesome, girl needs a hug. To say nothing of the game, mind you, I just really like her. Also, since you didn't do much of the multiplayer, I just wanted to say they didn't forget the rest of the knights, even if they're not in the story. Silver and Jet are filling in as unlockable characters in it, but for the life of me I can't remember the knights their representing. It's a nice little detail, nontheless.

3:04 the initials in this case stand for Sonic & Medieval.

Sonic and the Black Knight is basically your run of the mill Dark Age Sonic game. Incredible graphics. BOPPING soundtrack. Neat characterization and story premise. And it all gets dragged down by trash gameplay and/or unneeded extra elements that don't enhance the series. Chock it up on the list of neat concepts that could work with better direction but will never be revisisted.

I know this game has flaws. But dangit I love this game.

8:24 You can actually deal increased damage by pacing your swings, with a distinct sound cue coupling it.

Got this game for my 11 birthday. Always loved it. I'm 22 now, I still love the game, I know it's not the best of the best, but I'm willing to overlook the glaring omissions.

8:19 Holy Ifrit!!!! I completely forgot about that scene! That is hardcore for this franchise. Sonic Forces, eat your heart out.

The Johnny reaction gif material is strong in this video

i cant believe john told us to stay safe and wear a mask, way to get political! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

You know johnny i have been in a sonic phase so this video really helped that

1:06 to skip sponsor.

I AM SO GLAD SOMEONE FEELS ME ON THOSE TIMIED REACTIONS DURING BOSS FIGHTS I USED THINK SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH MY CONTROLLER

Lol why would you mention Cardi B when trying to promote earbuds? I really hope that was written into the script they make you read...

I remember when I got this game.... it was a reward for a ‘friend’ attacking me and me resisting the urge to knock him out

Today’s watch schedule 2:30 pm This video 3:00 pm Splatoon 2 3:30 pm KSI 4:00 pm KSI 5:00 pm Memes and junk

“Sonic and the Black Knight.” Or as Arin from Game Grumps would call it, “AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!”

I feel like for the past 14 years all sonic games (except for some) have great concepts but oh man they are executed terribly.

14:34 "Even if we are still on rails" *shows footage of Sonic literally bring on rails*

Damn man I haven’t this dude in a long time. Glad to see he’s still around

And then someone made a series on Newgrounds where Sonic not only wields a sword, but also partners up with Sparkster from Rocket Knight Adventures.

So basically Black Knight was the real last hurrah for multiple playable characters, and here I thought it was 06. Either 11 years is too long not to have Knuckles playable in a main Sonic game, and 14 is far too long for Tails and Amy and alot of the others. No I am not counting Boom and Mania as they were outsourced. Come on Sega, bring the actual characters we want back and none of this no name scene stealing player avatar crap. Not sure about anyone but the whole friendship talk in Forces with player avatar there felt abit disingenuous as Sonic's only known this guy for like 5 minutes, and will never be seen again, when Sonic could have his actual friends by his side.

I honestly would love to see more of the storybook series. Where else could we go? Who knows but I always have a soft spot for this series

Say what you will, I honestly thought the Soul Surge was some of the coolest shit back then.

No one: Absolutely no one: Sonic: *DEATH COMES FOR US ALL IN THE END! HUEGH HUEGH! :D*

I would've like to have seen the next storybook sonic game, Sonic and the chocolate factory