And he never doubted himself....even when he went to Hardhome he knew it was the right thing, people would hate him....and still did it....and THIS is the only time he felt wrong. Omg omg I hate D&D it has been weeks and I still can't get over this.
Lol...You guys know it has nothing to do with D&D right? That it has already been confirmed that this, more or less, happens in GRRM books? This has been plotted from the start. It's tragic, sure. But it's great storytelling. This season was rushed, I will give it that, and I think it would have been better broken into two. However, Dany becoming corrupted and ultimately being killed by Jon was always going to happen. It's a tragic story, but a good one. I actually find their relationship and even Dany more fascinating because she became a sort of "tragic villain".
WickedKiss Actually this was not set up in the books at all. Yes in the books we see her calculate her decisions and worry about ending up like her father, but we also see other characters battle with their demons (their inner turmoil). Also Jon hasn’t even been resurrected yet in the books🤦🏾♀️. All we know that’s been confirmed is that another Dance of Dragons is suppose to happen ( between a true Targaryen and possibly maybe another one or a branch one Blackfyre). She may become a tragic villain but it could be after the Dance of Dragons. Not like this. And I’m unconvinced that GRRM doesn’t have something up his sleeve with Bran after the many times Bran says “I’m not Bran anymore”.
After years of "you know nothing" (when actually he was the only one who knew what huge threat was coming) - Jon kills the one who told him: "You've always known".
That’s the irony of it.....Jon always DID know what was right an what was wrong. He just never really had the confidence to seize it. Like we all know If Jon would of takin his throne, or rather allowed to be king we all know he would of been a good King for the world. But he never wanted to be king even after he found out, he just wanted to be a simple man, with no more fighting. I feel like he COULD have gotten therw to Daenerys, an they could of ruled together. I know Tyrion said she would be to strong for him but....even though Rhaegar was good, I’m sure Lyanna could of helped him be a good King if they had the chance. So Jon could of got to. Therw to Dany.
@@TheKira708 Yes. There are some scenes in season 7 that show exactly that. I believe Jon should have eventually gone north of the Wall, but as an active abdication (just like Maester Aemon did for his brother Aegon). But they couldn't find a reasonable reason for Jon and Dany not to rule together just like they couldn't find one for Jon going north of what's left of the Wall.
'Love is not nice, it ruins everything, it breaks your heart, it makes things a mess, we're not here to make things perfect, the snowflakes are perfect, the stars are perfect, not us not us, we're here to ruin ourselves, break our hearts, love the wrong people and die, the storybooks are bullshit.' Ronnie to Loretta Moonstruck (1985)
Family is "🔥 and blood", "The things we do for Love". He chose family. The north side will always look after their own. They are the descendents of the first men who never intermingled much with the other houses. She went mad, he protected Sansa and slayed her for genocide.
If they are given another chance to do a spinoff with them again and she’s alive and well , I hope he chooses love over duty . Running away with her to that waterfall or Essos . Build a life together with the house with the red door and lemon tree . Have a few kids and live out the rest of their days . Together . I’ll be happy .
@@WickedKiss Dany in the books at least is always torn between what she wants most. to take back her families throne and rule the 7 kingdoms, or to find that house with the red door, to find family and love.
habibty habibty if you read the books , it’s common for the Targaryens to marry within the family. And on his Stark side, they also marry within their family. Uncles wedding their nieces and cousins marrying their cousins. It’s not uncommon.
WickedKiss not the first for the show and in her family quite acceptable. Even dispensing with that - fans didn't want to see her as homicidal maniac and him as murderer. GRRM should probably take note if he wants to keep his readership. People want satisfaction which is directly linked to heroism.
Lol that's BS. GRRM has made a killing off of the HBO series of GOT. He doesn't need the readers who little feelings will be hurt when he continues the story that he started. Demanding that a writer change their story to fit what the READER wants is laughably ridiculous. I know that because I am a writer, and because I am a published writer myself, and can see the type of writing that GRRM presents, I can flat out tell you that any writer worth his or her salt would not change a storyline for a group of fans. Peeeriod hahaha. For real. Just don't bother reading it then. Grow up. People don't have to cater to your wishes. lol @@miladydewinter8551
A story does not have to have a happy ending in order to be considered a good one. A reader does not have to love the way things turn out for a storyline, character or for the overall book in order for it to be a good story. A writer should be able to write the story THEY want to tell. Not write the story that some twat demands.
jon snow truly does know nothing. when dany told him the truth would break them apart, he didnt believe her. he didnt even know tyrion was manipulating him. he was being played and he was clueless af
U can’t blame him his honour nd duty to the realm in the end was what brought him to kill her nd even though he loved her in the end she burnt a city to ash yes she lost everything but I said it since season one she’s always had this irrational impulsive and oppressive side to her that was always suppressed by the council of her advisors nd they were all gone killed before her own eyes and so that side of her took over yes she was at times kind and gentle but similar to anakin skywalker although not as deep she had to alternate personalities one in response to happiness and the other which responded to pain and anger she’d have burnt castles nd kingdoms to the ground from winterfell to dorne and in the end John did what he always does the right thing and will now suffer internally in exile for the rest of his days I loved the ending it was just rushed and I’m sure when the books r out you’ll agree it’s a fitting ending for two great fantasy characters 🙌🏼
@@joshualilleker4005 Except Jon is the very reason she turned like that....Jon seemed to have forgotten how badly he hurt her and endangered her life by opening his big mouth to Sansa, who in turn took what she learned and use it to ignite a conspiracy against Daenerys, and all this After Dany had lost so much in defending the North !
True fans will never get over this tragedy, the writers did..... It breaks my heart, and even more knowing that the actors wanted the same....just by looking at their faces, how they took it when reading their scripts..... I hope there is a season 9 sometime in the future. Or have Kit and Em do a romance movie!!!!
Why? He did the right thing. Sometimes, the right thing is terrible, hard and tears you apart. Dany was a danger to the innocent. It did not start that way for her, but people change. That's the best part of a story, I think. The development of a character. Dany is far more interesting and compelling as a tragic villain. In Season 8, she told Jon that Sansa was not the same girl she had been, not after what she had been through and seen. When I heard that line, I agreed, but I had also immediately thought the same of Dany. Dany was not the same girl that she had been in the first season. Even if the end is not what was wanted, it can still be appreciated.
You are so good at this.. you capture the unsaid emotions of these characters and put it together so vividly. Its so heartbreaking and beautiful! They deserved so much happiness! I didn’t realize fictional characters could break my heart so much damn it. I will always be rooting for them. Im my mind... they sailed to essos at the end of S7. They got the lemon tree, the house with the red door and lots of kids! Ghost and Drogon as the protectors of the family. Thats it!
You’re right. Jon ruins everything he touches. He destroyed Daenerys and is responsible for the death of two of her dragons. She helped him because she loved him and he killed her. He is a pathetic loser.
@@RS-hz2tn It wasn't Jons idea to go north of the wall to capture a wight, it was Tyrion's. Plus Jon wasn't even with Dany when Rhaegal was shot down. How is that his fault?
😭😭 They deserved better, anything better than the ending they had. Jon will be haunted in killing Daenerys to the end of his days. Daenerys was the only other woman Jon loved and he had no choice but to kill her by his own dagger. Everything that Jon thought was right has messed up Jon. Jon is broken because of killing a woman he believed in and who saved his life and loved. And he killed the only family member he had left on his father’s side. I had would of been fine if Jon ruled the Seven Kingdoms and Daenerys returned to rule in Meereen. Two Targaryens ruling on each side of the world. This is such an amazing video!!! Thank you for uploading!!! Please make more! Could you make a video of Jon and no matter how much he fights, he loses in the end. “I fought and I lost.” - Jon Snow to Sansa season 6. Let me know if you can. 🙂❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
They all hated her except Jon, so why did he let that little pip squeak Tyrion talk him into killing her, because thats what he did, and where was her trial. And no, it was not right. What she did was horrible, but Sansa, Tyrion, Varys were every bit as responsible for it as she was. She loved Jon so she decided to help fight the wars. As it turned out she and her Army's and Dragons did most of the dirty work, saved their ASSES and what did it get her, DEAD, by the man she loved. So if he did do the right thing ( I don't think he did ) but if he did, then the rest of the traitors should have went down as well. But guess what, they got rewarded. I thought treason was a hanging offense. And yes, I think Jon will suffer pain and guilt for the rest of his days, maybe even go MAD. Isn't that what Targaryens do? When Drogon began to melt the Throne, for a few seconds I thought Jon would step in front of him but the dragon turned to the throne and melted one of the reasons for her death. What the traitors couldn't seem to get through their heads, JON DID NOT WANT TO SIT ON THE IRON THRONE.So all the plotting and planning was for naught, and when Jon found out about being her nephew, he rejected her and I don't understand why, he already slept with her once, you can't unring a bell so what was the problem? HIS HONOR?? WHERE WAS HIS HONOR WHEN HE MURDERED HER IN COLD BLOOD. So he was also partly responsible for what happened. If I remember correctly, when Jon and Dany rode in for the war, Sansa hated her on sight, and Dany knew it, she even told Jon. So Dany explained to her that she was there for Jon, that she loved him, and wanted to help him, Also all her life she's wanted the Iron Throne, UNTIL SHE MET JON!! But after she found out about Jons birthright, and ask him not to say anything, which he did to his sisters, but ask them not to say anything, which Sansa did to anyone who would listen because he was the rightful heir to the throne which I will repeat again ( HE DID NOT WANT THE IRON THRONE), AND that whole slaughter could have been avoided. So they are all culpable every bit as much as Dany. AND THAT'S WHY I DONT THINK JON DID THE RIGHT THING, BUT I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU DID, AND IF SO, THEN THE REST OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUNISHED AS WELL. NOT BEEN REWARDED. BUT IF THEY WANT A BUNCH OF TRAITORS RUNNING THEIR KINGDOMS, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT
Oh my Gods words cannot describe how beautiful this video is. And how much I love it. Words. Literally. Cannot. Please never Delete it and I Swear to You I will watch it Every. Day. Literally most beautiful video of them I’ve seen. My heart is Broken. I love it so much.
It's that one question that stays...could Jon have save Daenerys from herself - if he had been a bit less Jon and a more loving, patient, affectionate and morally flexible? Probably not, given her absolut dedication to her own course and absolute, merciless rule. But still, the question remains and the hope won't fade against better knowing.
Your video made me feel more about their relationship, than the show itself. Seriously, this edit gave them so much more depth and actually gave justice to the amazing work emilia and kit did with that "script"
It's just amazing how many emotions their story expose... They are slowly falling in love, so sweet and true..both of them already heartbroken time ago, than he risks and almost dies and she helps him out..she follows him and they discover that their worlds, background and values, even their blood is against their love. Suspicious grows, jealousy, loneliness and fear conclude in murder. None of them deserved it yet they it had to happen! Just woooow!
Look how they massacred my boy!!! He absolutely loved her, they should've been the best king and queen. I hope the author gives them the justice and a better, deserving ending
He gave her his crown, his claim, he even tried defending her after she demolished an entire city after she won the war. He marched the North south to help her take the throne. Jon was willing to give her another chance, even after she massacred King's Landing, if Dany would show mercy over more killing.
A very emotional video. I thought that I had starting to moving on, and then I saw your video and cried my eyes out. What happened to them was unfair... So unfair. They loved each other with their heart and in the end ,Dany died in the most horrible way and Jon had to live with the guilt and the pain for the rest of his life .
@@sorinlazar4708 Yes definitely. Jon and Dany had the most pure and true relationships in this damn show. Also keep in mind, that in this season everyone was out of character due to bad writing. The real Dany would never cause a genocide, and the real Jon would never be so easily manipulated to do such a thing to Daenerys . So don't let season 8 change your view over the characters, because they have massacred their arcs.
@@sophiab3186 This is going to happen in the books too. I just don't like Martin's vision about his characters. The writers could do a better job that's a certain thing, but please tell me how could you change so dramatically Daenerys's character in a few couple of episodes(they should have produce more than six) it's almost imposibble. My point is even for the books is too much making Daenerys mad. I am upset that D&D did not have the courage to make a diffrent ending(diffrent of grrm) I'm confindent that would be much better than this. Instead they chose to ruin the characters just to make a same ending. Sorry for my english
@@sorinlazar4708 I completely agree with you! People say that Martin will fix this but in the end, the basic plot points will be the same. It will be well written and justified that's for sure but still it will leave a bad taste in my mouth. Also I don't find that clever of a twist: it is a boring clichè. Having her end up like the father, the person she tried so hard not to become all these years... Wow very "unexpected". I don't find it bittersweet. It is cynical and tragic and I hate the message it sends: that in the end, the past will always haunt you and love only exists to ruins people's hearts. I wish D and D had the guts and changed to an ending that was suitable with the show's route! Besides it was pretty apparent that they wanted to get over it and finish it quickly, which is a shame really.
@@sophiab3186 Agreed. I think they kinda forgot this is just a fantasy. They(grrr and d&d) wanted so hard to deliver a lesson at the end.(something like power corrupts), but for me it does not fit.These fantastic characters(and the actors) truly deserved a pay off for their fanstatic journeys. Unfortunately, for grr's great work I can say sincerily that this is not a good story. Anyway, the fact that we see the events from an unilateral perspective is interesting. We can not see daenerys real feelings about it. This and jon's lines "was it right what I did? / It does not right" makes me think about dany as a misunderstood person. They did not understand(jon, tyrion, sansa) fear is her only option. She should have burnt a part of that city. She truly does not wished to do that, but it was necessary for her survival. She knew what a rebbelion of people means(the bay of dragons experience) and also knew that people of kings landing would try to kill her instantly. She gave them a choice and they chose to stand by Cersei. She made many mistakes, that's sure. But I think maybe a world with her would be a good one. Sadly she could not understand by the others.
I feel so sorry for him. He loves her so much but this is the only way to stop her and only him can do it. It's like he sacrifice himself and got nothing in return but the feeling of guilty. 😭
supportsj13! That's what I don't understand. Why did it have to be him. The rest of them hated her and betrayed her so why not one of them. Now he's a cold blooded killer. Let's hope he doesn't go MAD remembering, and he will keep remembering it over and over again. RIP Dany.
So beautiful... I still mourn this. They could’ve been so amazing together but it wasn’t meant to be. This video is beautiful and so sad... I’m crying right now remembering how mad I was when the last episode aired. It broke me. It still does.
Jon never in he life asked if anything was right or wrong, even when he killed a child he didn't want to kill he never questioned it. Jon has killed over 1,000 people and has never once asked if it was right or wrong. So Jon asking if something was right or wrong then it was wrong.
No Jon is was not right. She saved him multiple times and loved him. She deserved much more than she received from the writing they gave. I just hope that George RR Martin does a better job of giving these two what they truly deserve. I hope that they rule together and have little Targaryen children. The line can't end with him.
George R.R.Martin told them how the show ends, He is the one that told them to kill Danearys.. I'm sorry you dont like that but George was never going to give that happy of an ending
It wasn't right. That's why it didn't feel right. How can someone who was betrayed and killed do the same to the person he allegedly loved? Let us not forget the GoT world. All conquerors had to inspire fear and the people in King's Landing... well they would bend the knee to a person more powerful and feared than Cersei. I don't approve Dany killing children , what I'm saying is that it seemed the only way considering those people hated Joffrey and still cheered at Ned's execution or turned against Tyrion for "killing" Joffrey. Everything that happened before suggests to me that most likely the other places Dany mentioned she would free from tyrants would bend the knee after what happened in King's Landing. She did mention Winterfell too , but not sure if she really wanted to attack it since she fought with those people already, perhaps it was just a way to set up boundaries.
She didn't have to decimate King's Landing, she had already won the city by fear. That's how she won KL's surrender. Just because you have bad people living in the city doesn't mean it's okay to kill everyone in site. Nobody else in GoT or ASOIAF has slaughtered a city after they've already won the war. Not to mention Dany thought she "liberated" all those people she killed and wanted to "liberate" the entire world, declaring war even on places under her rule -- places that had no slavery. There were no other tyrants left. Dany wanted to take away everyone else's choice and was refusing mercy for the current people. That's a scary world.
@@Eleni1002 If they attacked kings landing first, like Dany wanted, she would still have her two dragons. Plus it was just bad writing. The characters knew where the iron fleet was but they still went in that direction??
flosssyy Viserion would still end up dead and no one knows if the other two would've surviced the dead. Besides, had she not gone north to help, she would lack critical knowledge of the WW.
Another great one a tribute of love to the 2 most loved characters these are so good even in the league of slyfer garostudios zurik 23M jessejr mederecord and so many many others keep it up my man
I think Daenerys had a psychotic break (that's my interpretation), and that Jon was also in a delicate mental state, he also has Targaryen genes, of course he wouldn't be mentally well after all that either, so it was easy manipulate him into doing this, at that moment he thought there was no other way, he was convinced of that, but it doesn't feel right because a part of him feels he could have done something, Jon is not only a Stark, he was raised as one, but so is he is Targaryen, no man in this family could do that and find peace, the sacrifice was huge for him, I like to think she is at peace with her son, her mother and those she loves, but Jon will live in torment for rest of his life, that's his punishment, to be consumed by pain, regret, guilt and grief, and I'm so sorry because I love them both
Me parece un lindo vídeo del amor entre Jon y Daenerys, pero es una lástima que lo hayan echo terminar así con tan poco sentido. Daenerys es la esencia de GoT y Jon su mejor complemento. Como se les ocurre destruir algo tan bello con argumentos tan ridículos. Jonerys vivirá en nuestro corazón 💔 por siempre.
Edna Calderon no se cuanto tiempo va a tomarme en aceptar ese final.... no lo merecían ☹️ en lo personal si creo que dany hizo mal en matar gente inocente pero me genera un vacío ver cómo termina y su relación con Jon también 💔
Lo malo fue que a huevo querían distorsionar el personaje y la imagen que teníamos de Daenerys, con tal de elevar a otros. La verdad estos showrunners lograron tomarnos y estrujarnos como el gigante a lady osita, nos dieron el golpe mas bajo, el golpe traidor, nos mataron con ella. Kit Harrington amaba el Jonerys. Se notó en su reacción.
Edna Calderon honestamente no me molestaba que en algún punto dany se puede convertir en villana, siempre me han gustado más por lo complejos que son... pero fue algo tan rápido que ni siquiera disfrutas ese desarrollo... te dejan fría con lo qué pasa y creo que todo el amor que se construyó entre ellos no sirvió para nada... todo eso para nada? No se... esto fue algo más allá de ser trágico...
And Stark ándale, algo como snape 💕 pero en verdad que a mi el final de got me ha dejado con un mal sabor de boca... siento que maltrataron la historia en general por acelerar las cosas
Er fragt sich ob das, wass er getan hat, richtig war . Nein das war es nicht. Er sollte am ehesten wissen, wie schlimm es ist betrogen zu werden. Aber nein, er tötet sie trotzdem. Sie könnten mit Drogon irgendwo wegfliegen, zu einem Haus mit einer roten Tür und einem Zitronenbaum. Die beiden sollten viele Kinder haben und ein glückliches Leben führen.
He had no right. The Starks are a true disease, if Dany had never met any of them she'd be happy and would be ruling the 7K and have her dragons by her side. After S8, I hate Bran, Arya, Sansa with a burning passion and have zero respect left for Jon, he doesn't have what it takes to be a true Targaryen.
Agreed, Daenerys was truly the last dragon. Jon was nothing but a puppet Tyrion used to keep his own self alive, using Arya and sansa's safety as leverage to get him to kill daenerys. Funny he never persuaded anyone to kill his cold hearted sister Cersei even when he KNEW she paid one of the gold cloaks to kill him during the battle of blackwater bay.
I personally saw Daenerys becoming mad a long way off. Everything she did, crucifying the Masters and everything, it showed her true colours. It was only when the people around her died, that she truly embraced it
This is a beautiful video that really captures the beauty and tragedy of this beautiful and well crafted story that D&D brought to life. I am a huge book fan and I love the shows. My only complaint was the pacing of this season and I wish that it could have been split into two. I've always believed that Dany would be corrupted. Even Dany thought many times that she only feared herself (books). I don't know why there are so many people blaming D&D for what happened to Dany and Jon, as it has already been confirmed that this will more or less happen within the books as well. That means it is GRRM's ending, not D&D's. The tragedy in this story and the twist of Dany becoming a "tragic villain" is beautiful and compelling. Your video really captured that, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. :)
I'm agree with you....george rr martin plan this ending from long time ago before tv show...daenerys have 3 betrayal in her life one of the betrayals that she got was betrayal from the person she loved
There's nothing "beautiful" about an abuse victim who did so much good only to fall into madness like her father. Because that's the message isn't? No matter what you do, you'll turn out exactly like your crazy parents. That's gross, and Grrm can KEEP his ending if that's really what its all about.
OMG WHERE SHE TOLD HIM "WE WILL DESTROY THE NIGHT KING, AND WE'LL DO IT TOGETHER." SHE MEANT IT AND KEPT HER WORD!!! JON DIDN'T !! WHEN SHE SAID "WE BUILD A BETTER WORLD, TOGETHER" SHE FUCKIN MEANT IT! JON GOT INFLUENCED BY OTHERS!
If U ask yourself was it right? U know it was wrong. She trusted him and begged him not 2 say anything. Poor Daenerys! The Night King would've won without her help
Still unbelievably pissef off! Why did they destroy the potential endings that would have been just as ‘GOT’ but more satisfying. I can genuinely say that from 8x03 i hated the series. The characters who deserved something got nothing x
Honestly, they are my favourite characters on the show(Jon imo is a little bit better) and I have to say it was the right thing to do, Jon has always been honourable and admirable throughout Got, even though many people would hate him for it, like going to Hardhome for example. And when Dany stated they don't get to choose and the fact that the North would get burnt by Dany as they wouldn't kneel, as well as the rest of Westeros as, no one would probably stand by her after what she did in Kings landing, he had to kill her. People keep forgetting Jon walked into the throne room to persuade her, not to become evil and conquer Westeros but she wouldn't listen and at the end of the day Jon did what needed to be done. Plus Jon was very loyal to her, the only reason he stopped was because he realised that she was going to do this to every city who didn't bend the knee.
You're wrong. There would have been no war. The most of the kingdoms were her allies at the moment(the iron islands, storm's end, and after Tyrion's death the whole west). And I do not think anyone would have the courage to oppose it, not after what she has done to kings landing. The point is jon was kinda manipulated by Tyrion.
Sorin Lazar fair enough, but I do think that the north would stand up to Dany plus I’d say the only allies that probably respect her after what she did was Yara
@@porg3477 all of them would have been afraid. Probably everyone were going to bend the knee. About the north, I do not think they would risk another war, just after the long night.
@@sorinlazar4708 Yeah the other kingdoms would probably stand by her because of fear but Sansa if I am not mistaken, stated that they had brought a northern army down so if they killed Jon there would be war.
@@porg3477 did you see what Drogon himself did to the most powerful city of the continent? Did you see the dothraki and unsullied? Anyway why would Sansa start a war? She has no reasons, just because she hates daenerys?
👏👏👏a beautiful rendition of a tragic love story. Drogon should’ve burned Jon’s assss!!! 😂poor dany, she trusted in the wrong men! Only the women (missandei and yara)were loyal to her. The unsullied don’t count #ripDANY❤️
FUCK... had my heart clenching. Made me forget how they butchered their story line in season 8. BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART that you have created. Kudos to you
'Love is not nice, it ruins everything, it breaks your heart, it makes things a mess, we're not here to make things perfect, the snowflakes are perfect, the stars are perfect, not us not us, we're here to ruin ourselves, to break our hearts, love the wrong people and die, the storybooks are bullshit.' Ronnie to Loretta Moonstruck (1985)
Es tan horrible pensar que Jon la asesinó de la misma forma que lo mataron a él ... con traición, una puñalada en el corazón por la persona que quería y en quién confiaba (Olly) ... los guionistas desconocían completamente a sus personajes.
