JONTRON VS THE WORLD - Dude Soup Podcast  

I just wanted to say that regardless of the views in this episode from anybody, I commend Bruce for working really hard researching this topic and making it a good podcast. Good job Bruce!

I'm really disappointed Lawrence wasn't there to defend Japan as the utopian society

I love all of you, but God damnit, Bruce GreenE I fucking love you. You just seem like such a genuine, caring human being.

BREAKING NEWS: Lawrence has been recruited by Samuel L. Jackson to be a part of the xXx extreme crew.

I love how Adam talks like Ozymandius: "If only there were aliens to unite the human race..." I'm on to you Adam.

scroll down if you want to see geniuses debate politics

No matter what side you stand on you can't deny JonTrons debating skills are pretty poor

"The unholy Nazi alliance of PewDiePie and JonTron" - Wall Street Journal

If minorities aren't discriminated against them why is he afraid of whites being a minority?

why has Omar just become a voice on the god mic?

Elyse's hair is on point. Good shit.

Elyse looks cool as fuck. Can I get that jumper holy shit. (ideally in mens but I can wear womens if I look that fly)

This was actually a pretty balanced and fair discussion. I don't see why there's so many dislikes.

Can you hire Joel back now that he is unemployed??

This is the problem: We shouldn't get mad and try to burn a guy at the stake for saying racist comments (whether you believe they are or not). Instead, if you disagree you should try to educate the person as much as possible. He's not a mean spirited person trying to hurt other people. He has just formed an opinion based on things that are not true. Educate don't hate. The media of course is going to use this as an attack piece but as the RU-vid community and online community in general we should do better.

Hey Funhaus, I just wanted to say that since you guys have started this channel, I've grown to love all of you and the things you do to make us and each other laugh every day. I'm 16 years old and last month I attempted to commit suicide by driving my beloved car into a retaining wall, and now I am living with the consequences of these actions. I know you hear this from literally thousands of people, but you guys really do help me get through the day. Whether It's James' skepticism, Elyse's impressions, Adam's lovable nature, Bruce's farts, Joel's singing, Spoole's stupid 1 dollar 1 hour rule, Lawrence's love for anime, or Peake's subtle but very encouraging advice, you guys always make me feel better about life and give me hope that I will live the life I dream of, thank you.

Hey! Just wanted to make a comment regarding Adam's statement that the issue of race was a problem since prehistoric times. In actuality race was historically not a huge issue until more or less the enlightenment. The big divide was usually religious, cultural, or most probably tribal (originally). Now, if you think that constitutes racism in itself I would yield that it was essentially the pre-racial equivalent of racism, but the concept as we understand it today is in no way that simple. The development of the idea of a "race" of people is a really interesting one(EDIT, forgot to write "one" here). Most ancient civilizations defined themselves and others by cultural and geographical differences rather than physical ones, and had no real concept of race beyond largely-explanatory myths. In the era of "Christendom" the belief was that all people were descended from the sons of Noah, and the Islamic world more or less agreed, though developed more scientific observations due to their proximity to Africa and the "Orient". The development of "Scientific Racism" is unique in its devastating impact on peoples' mindsets. The Enlightenment focus on science and fundamental differences between races set the trend for the next several centuries of modern racism. It is no coincidence that this coincided with Colonialism, the first truly race-based slavery institutions, and the overall advancement of European society to a perceived position of superiority over other people. To say racism began there would be an oversimplification, as even the ancient Sumerians regarded the people living in the hills as "barbarians" and called themselves "the black-headed people" referencing their hair-colour, but the concept itself is of critical importance and I believe it is imperative to our understanding today to see how racism has no real legs to stand on. It was literally created out of thin-air and permeated into every aspect of our society artificially through outright propagandization. It's a unifying and comforting feeling to belong to a "race" in some ways, I suppose, but the concept did not and could not have existed until essentially the first step towards pseudo-globalization occurred. I know this may seem out of place and critical. Just know I mean no disrespect to Adam, just want to address what I believe to be a common misunderstanding the world could truly benefit from rectifying.

17:10 Being a second generation immigrant, when I start complaining about literally anything about living in America, my parents get extremely upset with me and call me ungrateful. They constantly say “this is the greatest country in the world.” Why would we want to keep out that kind of spirit and admiration?

I'm glad that James believes in mixed supremacy. Genetic variation will reign supreme!

bruce is really into politics i see... he should hop on stream with destiny

A controversy seems like a right of passage for RU-vidrs now. They should give out a RU-vid Play button whenever they get to Wall Street Journal

I would like to see a 30 minute feature of Lawrence talking about his time at stuntman camp.

Curious what they think about Colin Moriarty, as he's an example of a freakout happening when he didn't do anything wrong. They might not be able to or want to though because they were a part of the same company

I never really get triggered and I have always associated myself with right wing thinking, but when JonTron said that Irish and Italian immigrants where never discriminated against I was. As an actual Irish man and not just from Boston shit like this is sickening. During the 50's my grandad found it incredibly hard to get a job in England due to him being Irish, this was not that long ago.

This whole JonTron situation takes me back to that Sonic 06 Game Grumps moment where Jon says "look at these blacks". Thought it was pretty funny back then but now there's a bit of a different tone to it imo

Just wanted to say good job with a difficult subject.

JonTron seems like the only RU-vidr in existence that can gain subscribers after having not posted a video in 3 months.

Did you know jazz came before ska?

When it comes to politics and what not, I like to bring up a quote that's usually attributed to Abraham Lincoln. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." I raise Elk and play video games. I'm not in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM able to debate my stances on things with people that know what they're talking about.

Anyone remember District 9?

I really appreciate the opinions put forward by these guys. Absolutely sick of people just screaming nazi at Jon and Felix. I also appreciate the whole you can enjoy someone and not necessarily agree with them politically, which is what I feel with the whole jontron thing. Good podcast guys.

Elyse hair is outstanding! I wish to know how to make it

I disagree with what Adam said about people who are not known for being political, should not be political. It's like when Colin Kaepernick protested the National Anthem and everyone said he should stop and just play football because that is what he gets paid to do. But that mindset is wrong. Elyse sort of points out that they have a platform, an audience in which people would listen to and who look up to. They bring light to prolems or issues that many maybe unaware of, or to show their support for a cause. Like when Shailene Woodley protested the Dakota Pipeline, she brought bigger awareness to the situation and showed her support for it. Just because you are an actor, football player, director, or RU-vid content creator, does not mean you lose your voice. If anything more celebrities should voice their concern for issues that plague our nation and/or world. But celebrities should also be aware of the consequences that come from voicing your concern. But if your career or public image is more important than the issues that affect millions of people or whatever, than that is a problem you need to solve on your own

The whole idea of an alien attack ending the human infighting (based on nation, race, etc.) was the whole plot of Watchmen.

Kovic's pants are sooo tight. "Captain, how tight are his pants?!" " Very tight sir!" "KOVIC!"

Can Bruce be the new host of the podcast?

Thanks for putting all the links in the description

what James didnt get about the hijab tweet was the "can" part, like you can go without it, if you want to wear it cool if you dont, nobody is gonna throw acid to your face

I am in international student in the UK and majority of students from my home country stay and hang out with people from the same country. I always think that mingling with nationals and learning more about the culture is an essential part of going to study abroad. It's like an Indian guy eating Indian food in a Chinese restaurant. I came to this country thinking that I will try my best to be friends with the locals and currently both my best mates are English nationals. I can't really say about the other prospective but this was my mind set going to study abroad.

One thing that scares me is that if we were somehow invaded by Aliens, we wouldn't band together but end up throwing each other under the bus.

I'm still yet finding it hard to play Devils advocate with you guys. You rarely express political opinions (Good thing I think) but when you do you're very easy to agree with. Do you feel like you're trying to walk the fence on purpose, or that your true feelings on politics and society are showing? Also subscribe to Gropozy

'And a lill English help to there' Britain entered war: September 1, 1939 America entered war: December 7, 1941 British military deaths WW2: 383,700 American Military deaths WW2: 407,300 British total population 1940: 48 million american total population 1940: 132.1 million British percentage killed: 0.00799% American percentage killed: 0.00308% That's half as much of the percentage of Britain sounds like a lot more than 'a lill' help there

My political comment on Funhaus for the millenium: The term "Western culture" isn't a synonym for "White culture", and for example in the majority of uses, Russia (a nearly all white country) is considered an eastern culture. It's a term used to describe the sets rules and regulations both written and unwritten, how people interact with each other, what we see as crime and not crime, how we react to said crimes, our politics, all kinds of things. Just as an example, in a lot of "Eastern culture" we wouldn't even be having this debate because speaking out against your country or your governing body is a crime and would either have you in prison or dead. This is a value of western culture, when people say that term. When people say that western culture is superior to other cultures, they're not saying whites are better than non-whites, they're saying that the way "western" countries even letting people discuss these topics instead of throwing them into a slave labor camp is superior. Having seen a lot of the Jon Tron discussions, and actually listened to them, you have to be doing some kind of mental gymnastics if you think Jon is saying that whites are a superior race or if you think he's any kind of supremacist, especially if he references Japan as a near utopian society. (On that subject, Japan's biggest social issues are their work ethic and declining birth rates. They work themselves to death and they don't fuck. Not the same kind of issues that a lot of other countries are facing.) Anyways, time to never comment politics again. But man, I can't wait for the rule34 that comes out of this.

I usually can't get into dudesoup enough to watch it all the way through, but I really enjoyed this one. I really appreciated how everyone seemed to give JonTron the benefit of the doubt while still being skeptical and voicing their own opinions on the subject. Nice job on the discussion, and though I've observed that none of you seem too quick to voice your political opinions in your videos (which is definitely understandable in today's political climate), it would be awesome to see more videos like this in the future.

Just to back up Omar because I heard him in the background talking about that Voltaire quote... The quote is used in both Futurama AND Family Guy. Peter says it randomly in one episode and it's used in Futurama by the lawyer who defends Zoidberg after he eats the Earth Flag. (This is a different lawyer than the Hyperchicken.)

I like Jon's shit, but he said some pretty fucked shit. Also, he clearly wasn't prepared for that debate. He didn't know what he was talking about for most of his arguments. He admitted it himself.

Anyone know the sweater that Elyse is wearing?

Shit, brace yourselves for a shitstorm like none other

I like how they are reading tweets about Jontron talking about how we are against discrimination. Yet the twitch chat behind them is having a pretty enthusiastic conversation about the Indian genocide.

That's really the ultimate litmus test: Can you buy the biggest big mac meal?

You are very good at talking about this kind of stuff, very interesting video 👌🏻

I totally respect everyone in this video. This was a actually reasonable discussion instead of a shitty witch-hunt and condemning bandwagon party.

"MIXED RACE PEOPLE ARE BANGIN"- James Willums 2017 Lol I couldn't agree more. Seriously mixed people are sexy AF.

A story I read when I was little had aliens which came to earth who were super nice and helpful, but also INCREDIBLY annoying because they always had to be right, so humankind joined a universal brotherhood of species who hated these aliens. So they were too polite to kill, but tiring enough that everyone got along with each other to avoid them. Wish I remembered the name of that, it was a good short story.

funhaus aged like fine wine. love yall

why won't they mention Colin leaving kind of funny

It's pretty obvious that JonTron actually believes in his opinions but is fine leaving it at that. The only stupid thing he did was open his mouth and try to make his opinion fact without evidence. However, Destiny having some facts that favor his opinion does not make his opinion fact as well. The best way to handle this is to just look at this from the outside with evidence that shows both sides of the argument. Bruce did an excellent job of this.

But did you make $250,000 off of this video like all those animators do; according to Destiny?

For anyone curious on how to pronounce "Geert Wilders": Phonetically, say Geart wealders (both "ea"s as in "gear"). The dutch G is the sound you make while collecting for a nasty spit, and all the consonants are pronounced. Have fun :)

This is my first dude soup in like... forever, and I really like this kind of talks, so i gotta see the other ones left. Gracias.

culture is different than race. Are all races good? YES! are all cultures good? NO! yes, I'm referring to the horrific treatment of women and gays by the Muslim culture

JonTron is not that bad of a guy

Adam: Why do some people believe they can talk about certain issues because they have fame? Adam: *proceeds to voice his political views and tells people like Tim Allen to fuck off because of something he said that he doesn't agree with*

Elyse: Joey could be watching. Adam: Not listening though. Oh Adam you have so many great jokes that go unnoticed

Someone mentioned this on JonTron's subreddit: This debate wasn't even political for the most part. It was for the first bit then the rest was just all about eugenics and race.

"Destiny is a smart guy", you should watch him talking to Sargon of Akkad!

Jontron's point about diversity is that it is only called for in majority white countries. That's why he brought up Japan. No one criticizes Japan for being too Japanese. "Diversity" is a leftist code word for "Too many white people".

People like jontron tend to argue false naratives that they learned from Facebook memes and didnt actually research. They hear statistics that support their ideals and blindly accept them as truth and pass them on ignorantly.

I really appreciate how even you guys were trying to be whilst discussing this topic. It was clear your guys' opinions, but you never let that take over from the facts. Good job!

The reality of it all is that people are only friendly with you when you and that person share the same opinion the moment your opinion is different you become enemies. Everyone wants change but we all want different types of change until we can come to a change that benefits everyone then and then can we unit as a society. Equality is simple

just look at Sweden.

JonTron lives in New York, he MOVED there from LA. Like, he could have moved to a more homogenous place in America but he chose one of the most diverse cities in the world. And not even for a second he thinks that maybe NY was a good place to move to because it's so diverse.

Every other sentence "well I don't necessarily agree with" this is what it's like to live in an era where people are terrified to have an opinion.

... So the humans go to a distant planet to abandon the robots they are racist against, but get attacked by aliens and have to band with the robots to survive? That's... That's a pretty great plot, imo. Reminds me of AI.

Thanks for putting this out there, I was unaware of the situations and you guys explained it very nicely

- How convenient you didnt mentioned Jontrons arguments about the importance of the white gene pool (as iranian immigrant) and also missed that part where Jontron vehemently denied any lack of knowledge about the subject and instead proudly announced his statistics and studies he prepared beforehand, but somehow you associate the exact opposite of that to his reponse video. Strangely I seem to missed that part. Well, since you said you researched *MONTHS* for that it has to be my fault I guess. - _"I dont think Jontron is a white supremacist."_ - Yeah we all know the *HUGE* difference between people advocating for white skin colors and people advocating for white gene pools. Of course the later ones are the harmless ones.

"Don't use your platform to talk about your opinion on politics if that's not what you're famous for." - Adam Kovic, while talking politics on his channel about video games.

Nevermind all that political shit, look how fucking cute Elyse is...

When I traveled to US I met several people and possibly 10% of them were racist, and I noticed their hate was hidden behind ignorance. For instance, they would hate me for my skin but not know where my country is, or if it was a democracy, not to mention they would think that I weren't paying my taxes, or that some rules didn't apply to me. In all, I loved visiting there and I think next generation will be the last to struggle with racism. Love to all!

Starship Troopers for an alien invasion? Come on Adam! Watchmen, brother. It mirrors what you want to happen perfectly

I love the Canadian perspective here, thanks Elyse

The West is the Best, we should make shure it stays that way!

Aww man, even if jontron is a "nazi," I can't not love his videos. Hell, FunHaus could be serial puppy murderers and I'd still watch all their shit.

Their robot/alien theory is almost literally the plot of Watchmen

I appreciate that you decided to take the risk of talking about a more uncomfortable subject, rather than dodging it because it would be too "political." I'm sorry that Adam didn't seem to want to share his opinions as much as the rest of you, I'd love to hear a more serious perspective. Thank you for the well produced podcast!

who the fuck is jontron?

''shut your mouth and keep making your content''... that's what leftists want everyone who disagrees to do... which is exactly why people have to speak up.

Are you seriously saying that you think the U.S is the best country in the world?

This was a well done podcast. Level-headed discussion, listening, and presenting different perspectives on the issue. Much better handled than the people who just through JonTron under the bus. My respect for the Funhaus guys (and Elyse) on the topics of political and social issues has grown from this point, not that I'm here for the politics of course. I just think these guys are funny, and that's what I'm here for. But when it's relevant, I think it's perfectly acceptable to talk about things like this, so long as they stay open-minded and rational. Love you guys!

I always love when Omar's dulcet, buttery smooth voice interjects from the heavens with an interesting question or comment.

It's fucking crazy how elyse is becoming my favorite, you go girl

You make Jontron look like a patronizing racist with dark opinions, as if there's nothing wrong happening in the world lately...

I watch funhaus because you guys are really good at being funny. I use your channel as an escape from the real world, and I don't really want to be reminded about the divided political climate of America when I'm watching people I view as characters. I get it you guys are people too and have opinions but that's not what I come to funhaus for.

There's an unwritten rule in political discourse that if you invoke Nazism or compare someone to Hitler, you lose the argument. 99 times out of 100, it's not an apt comparison.

"TAKE ME FRANCE! OOOO LA LA! (American) GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! (French fancy)" Adam Kovic, 2017

fuckin Jontron sympathizers

Please never do anything political again. I love yall and have been watching since the IG days, but this had a very left leaning slant. I understand yall are not career politicians or heavily involved in politics. Please return to comedy and light hearted jokes every now and then.

Scandinavia's not homogeneous! Around 14 percent of the population in Norway are first generation immigrants. It is a typical misconception and a stereotype that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are "all whites". The popular discourse, at least in Norway, is very much centered around tolerance and acceptance of other cultures, and like in the rest of the world a vocal minority are against this conception of a heterogeneous nation state.

I always love these podcasts. Helps me get a well researched second view on the topic. Well spoken, speak for both sides, look at different aspects, just wonderful

Bruce is partially correct about jazz: it is the only genre of art music (as opposed to popular music and folk music) that America invented. America has invented several other genres of music, but they all fall under the popular and folk music categories.