Jordan Fish & Lee Malia - Songwriting Masterclass (CYFMH) 

Oh Jordan definitely didn't ruin the band, since he was a huge part of what made their best album (Sempiternal) as good as it was. I enjoy TTS quite a bit but my isssue with BMTH post-Sempiternal is mainly losing the identity they've built with the first four albums, as well as their output becoming quite inconsistent and borderline messy starting with Amo, I respect them for doing whatever they want and still growing as a band in every sense of the word, most of Post-Human was awesome and almost a return to form, but then they decide "yeah let's drop this tiktok bait song called Die4U" and then they drop one of the worst songs of their career. But that's the catch with BMTH, they are never the type of band I can just grow out of or stop caring about (like with many others that I loved in my mid-late teens), they release a few tracks I dislike, a few tracks I'm indifferent about and then surprise drop one of the best tracks they've made in a decade (Amen) that also showcases one of the coolest bands in the scene too, and once again, I don't think we would have Post-Human or Amen without Jordan Fish, and the band probably would've never gotten as big and couldn't have taken this many risks if it wasn't for him either.

He made the band more interesting. I mean Oli and the band had already decided to go down this root. And Oli Found Jordan while he was playing in his original electronic band. Oli was sometimes 1of 5 people watching them play. And he asked Jordan to join. If he hadn't found Jordan when he did, they may have stuck with what they were doing for a short time,untill they found the right electronic guy they wanted. But glad it was Jordan. It's very interesting and clever how all this is put together. Jordan saying, it's so simple. But you've got to have a vision and know what your doing 1st, so it's simple to Jordan. He's so modest. So are the rest of the band. Not cocky and big headed like Ronnie from falling in reverse. Hate when people let the fame get to their head. It's too cringe

Haha... Guess what happened :")

jordan saved this band and made their biggest hit. nuff said. long live the fish @@misaki_kh

Damn that aged poorly

they were still great and experimental without him they will thrive either way

legend

Thank you for uploading this video! Would easily sign up for a 3-day writing masterclass by these guys haha. 🤘🏻

@@MajorMoment If only we could istg, i'd give them my whole bank account

Thanks. It inspired me to try and be creative tonight :)

Bro he can’t rap so I wouldn’t go that far to call him mike shinoda but still he is a very talented producer and keyboardist

I’ve thought this also

True!

@@AaronWalker2008 I don't thing they're talking about like what they do, more just Mike and Jordan's contributions to the songwriting aspect

And now he is no longer in the band, so sad;)

Such idiots to let him go

Absolutely amazing producer

Haha. He's so modest. It's Only simple if you know exactly what your doing, aswell as having a vision and a great lyrics writer. They're amazing at bringing music together. And not simple at all. You could know exactly how to do this, but without a musical artistic bone in your body. It will sound a mess. Love this band.

Doesn't mean it's complex. It's still fairly simple from a musical standpoint.

It’s not metalcore

simplicity is really really appealing to listen to even ur some jazz fanatic you’d be lying if simple songs aren’t catchy and pleasant to listen too

i think where some people go wrong is trying to make something complex as to ‘make it a better song’ when really it could be doing the opposite, not always tho but i think there’s a time n place in a song where it’s appropriate

Same here bro 🙏🏼❤️

do i have some bad news

dejo la banda jaj

oof

Well, bad news, bro.

Well fuck… 🤡

No worries!

So awesome that you were there bro! 🙏🏼❤️

wondering myself how it's going to go lol

they will. jordan said himself Oli is the main driving force behind the band. Dan Lancaster is also a crazy good producer so they should be fine. New track is dope

lancaster is a god, his own music is insanely good (unreal singer too) so if he even helps write a little bit they're getting a huge boost from that in the writing department@@triplej8666

Oli still good song writer even the time without Jordan but with Jordan that's when they became mainstream good combine good

They have the new album is awesome

Logic, I think

Protools

Lee is kinda useless on that occasion tbh..