Jordan Rules: A Detroit Pistons Secret to Stopping MJ 

and some of those plays were damn close to ending his career lmao.

thats why jordan is the real goat

Unless ur Lambeer ....where the rules change to try to kill him

Lmao really y'all that was the Jordan rules beat up MJ PIP and Horace lol

You have to not forget coach Chuck Daly.

Robert Gill This is what Jim Brown had to worry about being attacked by the NFL in the '60s everyone was after him and out to stop him using any tactic at their disposal.

and what's makes this defense so special is only the Pistons can execute it perfectly against Jordan. That's proves a lot.

Same as harden, but the entire nba is trying to stop him.

@@nicjohn60 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@nicjohn60 harden 😆 🤣

more like when his teammates stopped being bad it was over for detroit.

They stopped him a couple times. Don’t sell them short. But MJ is the truth

Kenrick Sholto Jr. not really. It was over for Detroit when Karl Malone elbowed Thomas. From that point on Detroit just fell.

Kenny “Jordan hit 13 field goals. His teammates combined to add 15 more for a season-low 28. The Bulls scored a season-low 74 points, a total four points above the all-time playoff low. They hit 2 of 19 three-point attempts and 31 percent of their shots overall, the kind of day that could lead one to suicide. The Bulls probably would have botched that, too. Horace Grant, wild on the backboards again with a team-high 14 rebounds, hit 3 of 17 shots. And Scottie Pippen, struck by a piercing migraine headache just before gametime, hit 1 of 10 shots and scored just two points. ''I was not able to give the effort I could, but I hope my teammates understand,'' said Pippen, who also said he experienced double vision. ''I could see my teammates, but I couldn`t tell how far they were from me. I just couldn`t get that normal feeling.'' Neither could John Paxson, who tried his badly sprained ankle before the game but had to sit out, his first non-start of the season. Substitute starter Craig Hodges hit 3 of 13 shots. And some more help for Jordan. He had more this year, just not enough. ''Look at the Bulls,'' said John Salley, with 14 points off the bench to complement Mark Aguirre`s 15 points and 10 rebounds. ''Pippen gets two and Grant doesn`t shoot well and Michael has to carry the load. ''When our (bench) unit comes in, we`re there to offensive rebound, block shots and run the fast break. ''Buddha (James Edwards) is a scorer, (Bill) Laimbeer is there for defensive boards and then we come in and it changes the whole complexion. Vinnie (Johnson) is the scorer, I rebound and block shots. Michael is a great player, but he can`t do it all.'' Detroit went from trailing 27-25 with 7 minutes 51 seconds left in the second quarter to a 46-31 lead with 30 seconds left in the quarter. They shot 82 percent in the quarter to 21 percent for the Bulls. ''We held serve,'' said Daly. Game, set, match. The Bulls hung around a while, getting the Pistons` lead down to 10 after three quarters. But nobody was fooled. Detroit had too many bodies flying into the game while on the Bulls` bench Paxson`s ankle was the size of a grapefruit, Pippen wore a towel wrapped with ice around his head during every timeout and rookie eyes betrayed the tension of the day. ''I`m proud of the season and what we achieved,'' said Jordan, whose 12 third quarter points gave the Bulls what little hope they carried Sunday. ''So I`m going to look at this as a learning experience. ''I think it was more or less the pressure,'' said Jordan. ''Certainly, some guys didn`t play as they were capable, but that happens,'' said Jordan. ''You`ve got to move on and try to see that you can go farther next year.'' GAME 7 ANYTHING BUT LUCKY FOR BULLS Sam Smith, Chicago Tribune CHICAGO TRIBUNE June 4, 1990 www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1990-06-04-9002160671-story,amp.html

Evan E slowed him never stopped him individually his lowest game against them is 18 points on 4/8 shooting 9 assists every play was Jordan pass to Cartwright or Grant for that game they try to score in the post. They were leading and in it for a while and Jordan never tried to take over he kept sticking to the game plan. That wasn’t an elimination game though. Collins got fired after that series kept changing the starting line up all season wasn’t playing the bench and had Jordan playing point guard a lot which is not smart because he is also their main scorer so it’s easier to contain him and them. Them taking Jordan off ball with the triangle was smart it hid him better from the traps because the floor wasn’t spaced then like it is today and had him make quicker decisions before the defense could react. Tex Winters was an offensive genius for that. And the teammates got better and improved game 7 of 1990 they were trash and game 6 of 1989. Jordan wasn’t great but he showed up but made mistakes as well.

"The Pistons made Jordan tougher." What doesn't kill you ...

@@NameCallingIsWeak 'The pistons made Jordan tougher'. Bulls signed Dennis Rodman in 95-96 to form the greatest team ever.

Jordan owes it to.them

@@samiahmed6875 Yes he does

Yep they did. They use to abuse him a Pippen. Dennis Rodman had mo mercy for Any player I would 💘 for him to Bulldog Thay weak ass LeBron.

Yup!

He switched sports when the gambling got tough

Bird switched teams?? Magic switched teams???? Those guys dealt with the same stuff MJ did, they just knew how to pass the ball and win championships.

@@kerrykeith4740 lol first of all i said ALMOST every other super star, second of all jordan has more chips than those players mentioned, sooo what’s your point?

Spot on… 👌🏻

OH SHUT UP!!!

Those pistons teams were better than you think on offense...they still scored 108 a game..they just held you to 102.....they were a great team...salley Edwards aguire dumars and johnson don't get enough credit for their offense ...guys like Mahorn lambier and Rodman get all the shine but they weren't scoring ....

I started watching the NBA in 1980 I know what the league was like then. I also know what would have happened to that layup @7:23 had it been LeBron on that chase down (So does Andre Iguodala.)

Hei C lebron would've gotten crushed mentally. It's not physically that lbj would struggle but THE MIND

LOL, one of the highest IQs in basketball history was supposed to have struggled in a LESS sophisticated era? Gimme a break, Babe Ruth never saw a slider. The game progresses. The player that has manhandled THIS era is the greatest of all time. No amount of "back in my day..." will change that.

That pistons team was legendary

Yeah and jordan would give them.both fits so Isiah created the Jordan rules

Well those two aren't players..they are just garbage being paid to get some decorations and name for super star like Jordan..like in a movie..they are just stunt stupid man

@@donnelladams8362 lol isiah alone did?

@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope i think i remember in a documentary isiah said he was talking to Dumars thinking of ways to stop mj and the game up with it or they both did then the coaching team I’m sure sharpened it

Many teams do the same thing to certain players stop acting like this was a Jordan only thing . SMH

@@davemartino5997 The pistons were filthy, other teams got physical but the pistons tried to injure people

@@davemartino5997 bruh u weak butler fanboy

@@nabkid6578 sounds like u the fan boy

@@davemartino5997 they were forcing him on his "weaker" side along with elbow to his ribs just to stop him.

MJ did in 30 for 30 espn

Jordan admits that if it was for the wars with the Pistons, they may have not won any ships. Not how much Jordan dislikes the Bad Boys and Zeke, he has always given that Detroit team it's props for what they accomplished.

@Lighthouse in the Storm Facts, this who world is scripted

@Lighthouse in the Storm you’re scripted

But did he? No! In fact, he so was mad at Isiah Thomas for the walk off, he saw to it that he wasn't on the 1992 Dream Team. Yep. What Bill Laimbeer said "He's the only one on that ball club that can beat you", was true until Phil Jackson implemented a new offensive philosophy, the triangle, getting everybody on the team involved, so that was no longer the case. They got sick of losing to the Pistons.

Kobe is the greatest

@@gregcampbell3052 how is he better than MJ

You mean the league office and changing the rules.

More like the Bulls front office built a better team around him. Jordan was always great in the playoffs but his teams were nothing special. Don’t tell me you’re one of these people who think basketball is just a one man sport.

@@danielvrodriguez81what rule changes?

@Lighthouse in the Storm lmao, ok LeFlop fanboy..Drink your meds. It'll help you relieve depression or stupidity.

@Tony D'Archi right that makes no sense

@Lighthouse in the Storm how does hacking him equal babying him.

Bird did the same thing except have 12 rebounds and 8/9 assists big deal

Drazen Petrovic one of the only guys in the league who could keep MJ honest.

Scottie Pippen was a casual at the time and MJ didnt trust him so the Pistons had only 1 guy to stop

Pretty normal for the greats

@@Aazib_Warriors That is true.

Try watching some of the enforcer action when Phil Jackson came in off the New York Knicks to throw elbows and get a better player ejected??! This was in the 1970s ?

Jordan ruined alotta players from his time chances of getting chips Ewing., Malone, Stockton, Barkley and Miller just to name a few

@@shadowdoglaw257 big deal . Larry bird won titles against the greatest teams and players ever .

@@davemartino5997 Detroit ended Larry Bird's run.

@@davemartino5997 Larry Bird's run had already ended by the time the Bulls dominated the 1990s.

Jordan once said that if it weren't for the Pistons he wouldn't be as mature as he was

MJ also got a lot tougher and stronger

1-9 WOULD DO THAT TO YA.....HA HA

Bad Plush also The Nicks!

He also said he started working out like hell to get bigger/tougher to play a more physical game against guys like this. It helped him push his game forward to overcome the hurdle known as the Pistons.

Its such a pointless debate anyway. The difference between Jordan and the worst player to ever play in the NBA is probably a million times smaller than the difference between the worst nba hooper and the average amateur basketball player. These guys are all statistical anomalies, there’s no deep lesson to be gained by splitting hairs between them

An évidemment family.

🎯 They are the greatest example in NBA history to what it means to be a TEAM! And they were the toughest. They went through LA and Boston and got two rings. They were the team to beat. They weren’t concerned about the Bulls.

Nope all they do is wrestling 🤣 that ain’t basketball u casual

@@ebkdoagbgbabies347 by the statement you made I'm sure you never watch them actually play! I'm not mad at you though,. propaganda is always a tough thing to overcome if you don't do your own research, or if you don't know better. God bless you and yours.

@@ebkdoagbgbabies347 did you ever actually watch any full games by them

So blame the players instead of the owners

MJ was already 110% tough and great, its not like MJ will not be labeled as the GOAT without beating the piston.

There was way more to the Jordan rules than fouling every time he drives

Bro this is the second comment I read by you that makes absolutely no sense.

Naw man

They were great at carrying it out though. They had the right personel at the right time to carry it out and win back to back NBA titles. MJ didn't want to give up control yet at that point, because he wasn't ready to do so. They needed a new offensive philosophy that would be more difficult to defend, and finally got that with Phil Jackson, got closer in 1990, but Pistons had homecourt, and the only way the Bulls win in 1990 was win a game at the Palace and couldn't do it. Not just because of Pippen's migraine im game 7, but game 5 in that kind of series is very pivitol, and Pistons won that one. MJ waited year in and year out patiently, and finally won in 1991.

Not necessarily. We watched teams do similar things to players like Shaq and Giannis. The 2004 Pistons let Shaq score inside, but on defense drew him out toward the 3pt line so the Pistons could score as well. We watched the Celtics clamp down on Giannis every time he drove down the middle. The Jordan rules aren't unique today. What's unique is Jordan changed to be less of a blackhole and trusting his teammates more on offense.

Sir, im gonna have to ask you to stop making so much sense. This is youtube...

@@mohammedalim7958 LOL

Detroit stand up

There’s literally clips of Jordan getting pulled to the floor.

Invictus 06, Oh no.. even Jordan admitted that he couldn't have gotten 6 rings if not for bad boys.. the experience he had with pistons made him stronger physically and mentally...

Jordan would have 8 or 10 if he didnt leave for baseball or leave for the wizards and he would have had less than 6 without the pistons

@altovelli08 it wasnt him, mj even said it wasnt him, IT was MAGIC JOHNSON

No he would've won 3 if he beat the Pistons in 1990 then lost to the sun's and rockets once. Then in 1995 he would've either gone back to back or three peated still probably gets 5 and maybe 6, but not the perfect finals record.

@@antonioguglielmetti2661 We will never know what would have happened

Redgrin Grumboldt, but Jordan had to carry his team alone.. remember, they had almost no real good player in bulls at that time.. and I think the coach before Phil was just too weak to formulate a strong offense style..

Redgrin Grumboldt Jordan had 9 assists in elimination game his starters shot 10/49 had 26 points 1990 game 7. Pippen was 1/10 had 2 points blamed a migraine, Grant was 3/17, Cartwright 3/9 BJ Armstrong 1/8, Hodges 3/13. Jordan had 31 points made 13/27. He used his teammates they didn’t show up. As a rookie he averaged 5.9 assist. Season before 8 assists.

edjae david the offense comes from Tex Winters the bulls assistant coach since 1985 Phil was assistant since 1987.

@@edjaedavid6362 Soug Collins was the coach before Phil, know your history.

Well... one Player CAN win a couple MVPs. All first teams, all first defence. But I think what you should say is one man doesn’t win championships 😂

@Lighthouse in the Storm 😂😂

The one He wouldnt have made it , Thats the reality . Just the ghost of jordan gives him nightmares.

Lebron would rather be a hollywood actor for sure.

*actress

Lebron was facing the new school Pistons not the old school Pistons like MJ. I remember watching MJ game on tv. Pistons was trying to hurt him bad. When land on his back and move his head in a awkward way. So he wouldn't landed on the back on his head. They even kick him in the groin area. Pistons were doing MJ dirty on the floor. New school Pistons don't treat LeBron the same way. These rules were really try to knock out MJ out the NBA for good. Thomas know what he was doing. that's why he wasn't on the team with MJ. He the one made up the jordan rules.

@breadandcircuses8127. No, MJ became unstoppable, when you couldn’t tackle him.

The lane never opened, the league added 1 rule in the offseason the flagrant foul, and if you watch the series in 91 you’ll see Detroit still doing the same shii.

@@kendrickking3699. Exactly, the Pistons were like a shark out of water. They became a mediocre team, when they couldn’t hack.

Jordan an.scottie.an the mighty Chicago bulls let's.have.a last dance champions forever over.the. ??????.

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Have you ever heard of from boy's to mens thats.why.the.bulls.beat.the piston it.was not.because they were.old.the bulls had players the.same age.as.the.piston

I'm watching the Last Dance of the Bulls on ESPN

Steph would be shooting from half court😂. Those guys would murder his small frame.

Exactly

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@watches777 Thoughtful analysis. I do not think LeBron mentally takes the punishment, or have enough leadership ability to make it by the playoffs with teams who had 3 to 5 Hall of Famers every round. 80’s and the Bulls era completely different level. Curry however has the ability to lead lesser players to greatness, a mandatory requirement for the 80s and 90s. He has the “IT” any decade.

@watches777 He’s not lasting at the SF/PF more than 12 in the 80s and 90s. His stats are not a valid argument. Its why old school players, life long NBA experts, and NBA fans who have watched for 4 decades don’t GOAT him. Does he beat Magic, Bird, Jordon, Dr J, Isiah Thomas teams? He just doesn’t, and then to get to those teams, you have to play the rest of the Dream Team’ers and their teams. LeBron never made it the finals with hand check rule, and watch Detroit highlights. They committed real crimes on the floor. Take the BEST 8 years of Lebron, and slap that over the other Greats, that’s a true comparison

+Kimani Gregoire and the bulls were armed with deadly shooters like bj and craig hodges.

Well said Kamani, good observations.

Points 1, 2 and 4 are not true. Pippen was never a superstar until he peaked out in the mid 90s. He was only selected into All-NBA First Teams three times in his whole career and he wasn't even selected as an All-Star at 97-98, the year they won their last championship. Even at '94 with MJ, Thomas, Bird, Magic out of the picture and with guys like D.Wilkins, Barkley, Price on the decline due to injuries, Pippen was probably only the 5th or 6th best player in the league. Olajuwon, Shaq, Robinson, Malone, Ewing were clearly better at 1994 and Barkley was arguably better as well even though he was on the decline. Most of these players were still better players than Pippen even during the next few seasons down the line. Jordan's teammates finally stepped up for the first 6 games of the 1990 ECF against the eventual 1990 champion Pistons (number 1 defense), and the series was tied 3-3 - In Game 7, Jordan put up 31-9-8 on 48%, and also held Isiah Thomas to 41% shooting. Jordan also went up against DPOY Rodman, who can actually guard 1-5, in this series as well as Dumars - However the rest of Jordan's teammates played garbage in Game 7. The only teammate of Jordan's in double figures was Horace Grant with 10 pts on 3-17 (18%) shooting. Pippen finished with 2 pts 4 rebs 2 ast on 1-10 shooting - Dennis Rodman actually outscored every teammate of Jordan's, and did it more efficiently with 13 pts on 6-7 shooting. - While Jordan shot 48%, no other notable teammate (benchwarmers in garbage time don't count) shot better than 33.3%. 1) Even with home court advantage, Larry Bird's Celtics lost to Patrick Ewing's Knicks in the first round. Jordan's Bulls never lost to Patrick Ewing's Knicks in 5 playoff meetings, even with a 6 seed Bulls team in 1989. For those claiming that this Celtics team was washed up, Bird was 1 rpg and 1 apg shy of a triple double, and McHale, Parish, and Lewis all played very well offensively. This wasn't the same Celtics team of the 80s. but they were still expected to beat the Knicks. 2) Magic Johnson and Kareem lost to a 40-42 Rockets team in the first round of the playoffs after winning the championship in 1980. Larry Bird's first championship came against that same 40-42 Rockets team. Jordan never lost a series with home court advantage like Bird, Magic, and Kareem did, and never lost to a team lower than a number 2 seed like Bird, Magic, and Kareem also did. 3) The 80s Lakers never beat a team with a great center. Parish is only in the Hall of Fame because of Bird - he never made the playoffs in a season without Bird unless he was playing under 20 mpg off the bench. The 80s Lakers lost to Moses twice (1981 and 1983), and against Hakeem (1986), going a combined 2-10 in playoff games against them. These were the only times the 80s Lakers played a top 10 all-time center in a playoff series. 4) Larry Bird in 1983 got swept by Sidney Moncrief and Paul Pressey's Bucks in the second round. That was even when Bird had a stacked lineup up of Robert Parish, Finals MVP Cedric Maxwell, and Kevin McHale. As a rookie, Jordan had an 8 seed Bulls team of Orlando Woolridge and Quintin Dailey as his best options. He still managed to win one game against Moncrief and Pressey's Bucks in the first round even though Bird had the much, much more stacked team. 5) In 1990, Magic Johnson's Lakers had a top 7 defense and offense and the best record in the league. Magic also won MVP that year. Even then, Magic lost to a 5 seed Suns team led by Kevin Johnson and no Charles Barkley in only 5 games. Jordan ended up beating a Suns team with Kevin Johnson as well as the MVP Charles Barkley in the 1993 Finals.Every single team that Jordan lost to in the playoffs after his rookie year made the NBA Finals, something you can't say about the 1983 Bucks, 1990 Suns, or 1990 Knicks.6) Larry Bird and Magic Johnson never swept the Bad Boy Pistons, which Jordan did in 1991. Not only that, but Bird and Magic never played the Pistons when they had the number 1 defense in the league, nor when Dennis Rodman won DPOY like the Pistons did in 1991. 7) Magic Johnson could not even win one game against the 1989 Pistons in the NBA Finals before his injury, even after his team went 11-0 in the Western Conference. Jordan's 6 seed Bulls were the only team that won a game against the 1989 Pistons, which they did twice Detroit Pistons (Back to back NBA Champs with the number 1 defense in the league) - The 91 Pistons had the number 1 defense in the league, and Dennis Rodman was DPOY for the second year in a row. - Isiah's injury is not an excuse, because Isiah already played almost 50 games in the season and had played through injuries before, such as the 1989 Finals. Isiah also averaged almost 12 apg in the first round of the playoffs this year against Dominique Wilkins' Hawks. - and if you are going to use Isiah's injury as an excuse, Jordan must be given extra credit for winning with an injured Toni Kukoc (1996 ECSF), Ron Harper (1996 Finals) and Scottie Pippen (1997/98 season and 1998 Finals)- This Pistons team was still good enough to sweep the Celtics with Reggie Lewis and McHale playing very well - People claim this team was weakened by the flagrant foul rule, but they ended up with the number 1 defense in the league for the second year in a row and with Rodman winning DPOY again, even after the introduction of that rule. Clearly the myth that the introduction of this rule hurt the Pistons is far from true. The Pistons actually allowed less PPG in 1990/91 than they did in 1989/90. - For those who still doubt the 1991 Pistons defense, they shut down Dominique Wilkins to 21 ppg on 37% after 26 ppg on 47% in the regular season in the first round of the playoffs. Joe Dumars was 27 years old, Rodman was 29 years old so was Thomas. John Salley was 26 years old. They were far from being an old team when their 3 of their key players were in their primes and under 30 years of age. Los Angeles Lakers - The Lakers were still a great team, and they were not washed up like people think, though not as great as the 80s Lakers. - Former Finals MVP James Worthy was playing with an ankle injury, but he still put up 19-3-2 on 48%, which was not far off from his playoff and season averages. Considering he was doing that against a top defense like the Bulls, it shows no indication that he wasn't playing well. By the time Worthy missed Game 5, the series was already over with the Bulls up 3-1 - James Worthy broke his leg and missed all of the 1983 playoffs, but nobody tries to discredit Moses Malone's 1983 victory over the Lakers in the Finals. - The Lakers didnt have Kareem, but Kareem was a minor contributor on the 1988 and 1989 Lakers team. They were still a great team even with Kareem having a minimal impact. - Vlade Divac in the 1991 Finals played much, much better than a faded Kareem did in in the 1988 and 1989 Finals. He was more than enough to offset the loss of a fading 88-89 Kareem (not a prime Kareem obviously) - Kareem 1988 Finals - 13-4-1 on 41%, 0.6 spg, 1 bpg - Kareem 1989 Finals - 12.5-5-2 on 44%, 0.5 spg, 1 bpg - Kareem 1982 Finals - 18-8-4 on 53%, 1.3 spg, 3.2 bpg - Divac 1991 Finals - 18-9-2 on 57%, 1.8 spg, 2.4 bpg Divac in 1991 actually played at practically the same level that Kareem did for the 1982 Finals - This is the same Vlade Divac who was a key piece of the Kings that nearly ended the 2000-02 Lakers 3peat chances. Somehow only in Jordan's era is he considered part of a weak team - Magic Johnson averaged 12.5 apg in the NBA Finals and regular season. Since then, no player outside of John Stockton has matched those numbers in the regular season, and Stockton never reached that assist output after the 1993/94 season. - and no player besides Magic Johnson has ever reached 12 apg in the NBA Finals - No player since 1991 has even reached 10 apg in the Finals, and no player in the 2000s has reached 12 apg in a season. - Magic had averaged a triple double in the 1991 WCSF against the Warriors, dropping 26-10-13. - If Magic Johnson was washed up at this point, then that only shows how vastly superior Jordan's era was compared to the 2000s, since a "washed up" Magic Johnson was a far better distributor and all-around player than any PG of the 2000s. - This Lakers team beat the same Blazers team in 1991 that the Pistons had to beat in 1990 to win the championship, so they were far from washed up.- When the Pistons beat the Lakers in 1989, Magic Johnson played a combined 5 minutes in the last 2 games of the Finals due to injury. Yet people try to discredit the Bulls' 1991 championship?

+Jun Hee Ho how fucking long did that take probably longer than it takes me to do my homework

+Jun Hee Ho pippen was not an allstar the 97-98 season because of injuries, there was no way he couldve made the all star team that season as he was gone that whole half of the year

anybody who watches these types of videos knows this. so there is no point for you to bring that up.

Are you so sure of everything?

Ryan Chinn no, but i am sure of this.

I am pretty sure that Curry can't shoot that well against defense like this. I have my reason. Check out the stat in recent 5 years of the NBA, average FG% keeps going up. If you compare today's league to 10 years ago, today's league is very very soft. Every stars just like have a boost on their stat especially on offense side nowadays if compare to 5 or 8 years ago. I don't even need to mention 1995-2004, those years were very tough on defense.

Curry is probably the greatest shooter I've ever seen, but yes Jordan was a better all around guard.

He never guarded MJ successfully

He didn’t guard Hakeem successfully, matter of fact he couldn’t stop him

And by guarding MJ successfully, you mean he still gets 27, but his shooting percentage drops a couple

Rodman forced Jordan into 6 fouls in the 4th quarter of a game in 1989 but why let facts get in the way of your monumental retardation

The Celtics did the same thing with Wilt.

Joe Dumars was 27 and Rodman was 29. They both played horrible that series. That’s what undid the pistons. Thomas was still 29. That’s still very young. The only guy that was older was Vinnie,34 and he played better than any piston that series.

@@Unitas19 at that season Isaiah Thomas was seriously injured too and only played 48 games. They had to pick a second pg, Henderson to replace him

Excuses! 80s Pistons never had a 3-peat like 90s Bulls..

Lol “obviously getting older”. We all get older. It’s a lame and false argument. They were In their late 20’s and early 30’s.

@Lighthouse in the Storm well that's what happened- deal with it, live with it hommie. Ciao.

The Bad Boys went through Bird, Jordan, and Magic in the same YEAR.

No, the Piston’s became obsolete, when they could no longer play dirty. Pulling a person down in mid air is nothing to brag about. You actually had to be a skilled defender in the 90’s.

Truer words haven't been spoken

aegis 123 yep. Play hard or go home.

aegis 123 strongly agree

aegis 123 not now it isn't....its powder puff compared to then

I played basketball throughout my childhood until High School and man... after awhile of playing you learn how insanely fun defense can actually be when you can stick to your man the entire game and take him out. It's a different style of game at that point though and it's not much fun for the spectators 'til a fight breaks out.

This is why Lebron goat debate is nothing more than media hype. Your journey contributes to who you are. MJ was enduring the Pistons. Lebron was forming superteams. It's clear as day, that Lebron is fabricated, while MJ is organic.

@@meg-k-waldren exactly. The NBA attempted to make/create LeBron as the next evolution and poster boy of the NBA. Steroids and super teams and complete support and hype from the refs and announcers. LeBron was absolutely a manufactured product designed by the NBA system. And sti he struggled to win 4 rings...one has a fix conspiracy attached and the other was during a shortened pseudo season. He was never once truly the best player in the league. It was Kobe or KD or Curry or Westbrook always. Kobe showed him up in the all star game when LeBron was hyped as the best. LeBron led the Olympic team and lost the Gold for the United States. Kobe had to come and lead the team and of course they then took Gold. Michael Jordan is the GOAT for probably hundreds of reasons. The GOAT debate may be fun to argue when looking at guys like Wilt and Kareem and Kobe and Magic Johnson but there really is no debate and putting LeBron in there is just blasphemy.

​@@ryublueblankahaha u have an imaginary friends

Deep playoff runs

@@versatiletitan2466 still not old, the reason they were swept is because jordan made the team hit the gym, and they could not be assaulting players anymore.

that being old thing was just excuses bad boy pistons specially isiah and lamebeer(laimbeer), they were freaking ashamed that MJ and the bulls beat thier butts off real hard, lol!

Isiah Thomas was injured much of that season, but the Bulls still would've won even if he hadn't been, though it may or may not have been in a 4 game sweep. 1991 was the 5th straight year that got past the ECSF to the ECF, and to the Finals 3 of those 5 years. Overtime, I do think they didn't have as much energy, as they had in previous years, because they were playing many post season games, in addition to 82 regular season games.

They was done end of debate

He's tough!

@Bread And Circuses Are you the one that made this video? I would be happy to explain it to you if this is your work.

@Bread And Circuses Doesn't matter I guess. The video was very fair, did not just show a bunch of hard fouls and call them thugs. There was plenty of game film that was longer than the traditional 2 or 3 second clips we are usually shoveled. The right people were interviewed, these guys ABSOLUTELY know what they are talking about. The video showed Jordan REPEATEDLY getting defended without fouling, against the BS modern day narrative. It explained in great detail and accuracy what the "Jordan Rules" were, and they were far more complex and skillful than just knocking him on his ass, as most young punks were taught to believe. Overall, very fair, very in-depth, very educational, and very coherent and well thought-out. Oh, and very objective, a drastic change from the norm. How is that for an answer?

no punch....and the 'shove' wasn't a shove just a touch for the most part....rodman was a versatile defender though

@@davemerkury Yeah punch is propably the wrong word. There is another scene of him punching him mid air while he's getting clubbered by other Pistons though. :)

@@airtime23 now thats not to say a punch didn't during the game though lol....

MJ was probably satisfied to have rodman do that to others once he joined the bulls

The Knicks physicality was corny because they tried being tough like street thugs inviting the Bulls to a fight. The Pistons however were more frustrating for opponents because they’d make it appear as if their physicality was “unintentional” and they’d do it without appearing upset. Not to mention the Knicks didn’t have the offensive talent like the Pistons had to accompany their physical play.

Bitch move by KD.

If MJ was this basketball god, why didn't he win with the Wizards.

@@odajoseph1355 when he was 39

What rules exactly?

The Pistons were only “dirty” to mentally weak wastes of life like you

lol

was just a tap to the chest

My whole life I always truly believe Lebron was better than mj but after watching this I now know Lebron will always be the second best of all time mj is truly the all time goat 😣🙄 and it's only because it's like the pistons fucked around and pushed him so hard nearly killing him and it unlocked a new transformation in mj so he the first nigga to go super sayain LMAO 😂😂 . 1.mj 2lebron

MJ got beat by them several times.

Lol good one

If theres no jordan rules in 80s..mj would probably won 2 chips...remember detroit won rings back to back in 80s and jordan played against pistons 4 times in a row