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these highlights show that the Pistons weren't just about playing thug basketball. The Pistons matched the Bulls shot for in this game, with isiah, joe d, vinnie johnson, mark aguire and laimbeer stepping up and hitting crucial buckets time after tine in order to put Jordan and the bulls away. Tge bad boys were a better team.
They all got it together next year they knew they had them they forced the Pistons to a seven game and then they swept them in the 1991 NBA playoffs 💪, I still remember this interview to Isaiah Thomas he said that he have never seen a player so relentless like Michael Jordan, he just kept coming, he never quit, he lost and got up over and over again , and he came back stronger, that's when the Pistons started fearing him
@@rodneymckinnon9075 yeah Michael even had a 61 point game and 59 against those guys wasn't easy he was doing a lot ,just what LeBron is going through now ,is just that LeBron has 2 hall of famers with Davis and Westbrook,and they are not taking advantage of that
@@poligonzo5300 BS.... They didn't fear him... Thomas foot was hurt, he had rist career-ending surgery doing the halfway mark... Bill Laimbeer was hurt... Rick Mahorn wasn't there... So the thing is... When you're hurt you're hurt.... I believe if the guys would have been that it would have been a tough series and it could have went 4-3 either way
As hard as it might be to believe with how dominant they were in the 1990s, this 1989 season was the first time in Bulls franchise history that they had ever won 2 playoff series in the same season. This was unchartered territory for this franchise at the time.
It’s too hard to play defense these days, you cannot touch an offensive player it’s really ridiculous for anyone trying to play defense. That’s why a lot of players don’t even try, and why it’s so easy to just resort to shooting 3s. If the nba wanted to they could change a few rules and the meta would instantly change. I guess they like the score to be 130-120
@@mikebuckets It´s easier because players got better at shooting from insane distances, thus opening up the pain instead of clogging it with bodies. People didn´t shoot 3s back then because it was considered a bad % shot and the players that did it were frowned upon.
@@duartenoronha3172You are correct. That is only part of it though. The rules and the lack of enforcing other rules have made the game way too offensive.
We all have been shown a thousand times that back to de basket score from Jordan but that game is another Isiah Thomas' masterclass. That rebound on Grant and the break pass on Dumars, the steal on the pass to Hodges, the second half shooting streak... absolute gold.
Facts ! The Jordan propaganda machine is VERY powerful! They act like he walked on water. When the truth is he has a LOSING record against Isiah Thomas for his career!
I saw them both combine together in a few All Star games and I thought OMG can you imagine if they played for the same club.That would of been insane.A point guard and shooting guard who are the world's best who just immediately click.Can you imagine. Too bad they hated each other 😔
@@faronanderson2536 I hear you! BTW it's Jordan who hates Isiah! Isiah even said after the "last dance' propaganda documentary he had no idea that Jordan hated him is so much.
All other teams in the East folded under the Pistons - including the Celtics, Sixers and New York. But the Bulls just kept coming! I hated the Bulls Back then - Now I respect Jordan like no other. He was truly an amazing athlete!
Problem with these highlights is that they do not include most of the plays that really won the game for the Pistons, i.e. their suffocating halfcourt defense.
It's impressive to see that players didn't travel at that time. In the 90s they started taking at least another half a step. Nowadays they just go hiking with the ball to position themselves wherever they want
The media does a lot of that and the commentators ! Look at The Bulls , everything MJ does something the commentator emphasizes it Like MJ is the ONLY one on the Bulls team playing Basketball !
Joe was quietly the 2nd best player on those back 2 back Pistons title teams, and one of the great #2's of all-time. But Isiah was THE man. THE leader, THE best player on those teams.
One of the dumbest comments ever . Joe Dumars does not win the 1989 NBA Finals MVP if Isiah Thomas doesn't take over the 1989 ECF after Detroit was down 0-1 and 2-1 in that series when he got in Jordan's ass. Detroit doesn't reach the 1988 NBA Finals if Isiah Thomas is not the best player in that series against Larry Bird and Boston. Detroit doesn't beat Portland in the 1990 NBA Finals if Isiah Thomas in Game 1 doesn't destroy Terry Porter's confidence to rally Detroit in the final 7 minutes. Ask Doc Rivers in the 1987 playoffs or LA in 1988 what Isiah Thomas could do to your team in just one quarter. Oh, ask Hubie Brown and Bernard King what Isiah Thomas could do in just 94 seconds. No disrespect to Joe Dumars, but we saw what Detroit looked like in 1991 when Dumars was handed the team after Isiah injured his wrist. No comparison.
What is even more impressive is that Thomas didn’t had a teammate at the level of Pippen.. I wonder why Thomas is almost never even in the top 20 list by many . For me he could even reach top 10 !!
Jordan had 32, but the pistons spanked there AZZ, also the following year same whipping!! They were the bulls Crypto until 91' . They faced pistons 3 yrs in a row in the eastern conference finals.
Scottie: 1989 - Quits 1 min into an elimination game. 1990 - Game 7 migraine excuse. 1994 - Refuses to take the court when the play isn't called for him, forgetting he bricked off the side of the backboard the prior play.
Damn, i would of been such a Pistons fan back in the day. Everyone sucking off Mj and saying how great he is, Mj crying in the media how the Pistons are dirty, and everyone jumping to that ship.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, Poor MJ crying because the pistons wouldn't let him do what he wants to do on the court and they battle with him every possession ! Later the weak teams let him have his way , they didn't take it to the MJ and the bulls like Detroit ,Boston and LA !!
@@rodneymckinnon9075 delusional!!! bulls swept the pistons 2 years later and dont give me that bullshit excuse about how they got older they got exposed plain and simple. they thought they were gonna 3 peat and they couldn't even get that right lol bulls showed them how to 3peat 2 times gtfoh
Statistic of MJ in that year's regular season: shot 53.8% from the field, 85% from free-throw line, got 8 rebounds pgame, 8 assists pgame, 2.9 steals and 32.5 points pgame. And was selected All-NBA first team and All-Defensive first team.
People say MJ didn’t win a ring until Pippen….. but I don’t see Pippen on the court after that elbow. Same for migraine game when he disappeared again the next year.
Pippen was an excellent player in 89' and 90' but he hadn't really arrived as a full fledged star until 1991. Grant's development also helped catapult the Bulls to new heights.
Highlights don't tell the whole story and many new fans think cause they see the highlights that Jordan is the goat yeah he won six titles but people really think the pistons just beat up on the bulls . Just remember you got to watch the whole game because the pistons had a very balanced offense which many teams had trouble with. Zeke Joe dumars mark microwave all could shoot or take you off the dribble they had James Edwards who could post you up hit the fall away jumper laimbeer could hit the mid range and shoot the 3. Hell they was basically the warriors but a well balanced and physical style of the warriors of today. Matter of fact that whole damn central division had many 3pt shooters Dale Ellis with the bucks Craig Hodges was with the bucks before joining the bulls randy Whitman Michael Williams Reggie Miller rifle man chuck person detlef schrempf Ron Harper Craig ehlo mark price Steve Kerr when he was with the Cavs . Highlights don't cut it. Showing Jordan scoring in a series clinching loss is absurd . What should have been showed is how the bulls couldn't stop the pistons offense . The narrative that the pistons played dirty well the Knicks never complained the Celtics didn't the Lakers didn't them Atlanta hawk teams didn't the Portland trailblazers didn't and they lost to the pistons in the finals. The real narrative in the league during that time was the pistons was the team to beat and could a scoring champion get his teammates involved and lead them to a title. And before that it was who could knock off magic and the Lakers or bird Celtics. We all knew at that time no matter how good Jordan was after the 88 finals we knew that piston team was coming for the throne
Bird and Laimbeer don't speak to each other to THIS day, so what are you talking about? Bird complained about the Pistons' roughness, and so did Barkley. Jordan was just the biggest name out of all them.
Pippen was soft he had to get tough like MJ did , Detroit is training those guys how to battle ! He never learned ! When MJ retired and Phil called the last shot for kucho and asked pippen to take the ball out of boundsl he wouldn't get off the bench !! Never took the battle with Detroit to heart !!
Why do I get the impression that they were also better shooters back then? Better percentage/rate, less missed shots compared to today NBA that they are missing a lot of shots.
Lebron is bigger than Jordan and maybe a better passer. Jordan is better in every other area. Lebron came into the league wearing 23 because of Jordan.
Imagine watching an offensive highlight video n asking about the defense 😂😂😂 fuckin nitwit😂😂 n lebron got shutdown by Dallas 😂 not even close to being as good on defense as the pistons dummy.
Lol lebron never makes the finals in the east playing this kind of team..bulls making the ECF as a 6 seed here and giving the pistons their only 2 losses of the playoffs more impressive than any of Lebrons east runs to the finals
Bro leave Lebron alone ! Its Bulls & Detroit time !! Futhermore there isn't anyone going to do that to Lebron, he is a different breed from the time he stepped on the court ! Let's keep talking 90& 80 ball Detroit & Bulls !
Lebron would average 50 back in the 80s and 90s get off Jordan’s meat lmao. Back in the 80s and 90s, zone defense was illegal and iso was more common which caused MJ to score so much. You know damn well nobody is containing Lebron on an iso, he’s easily averaging 50 in this time period
lol Centers could camp the lane all game back then and there's no elite centers today on top of that. Lebron would get owned in the paint, which is the only area where he shoots a high percentage
See the bulls shaking hands after the game, showing sportsmanship Well the Pistons didn’t return that energy when the bulls finally beat them But apparently MJ is the bad guy & isiah is the victim in all this
In the NBA today offensive players with the ball look much more physical, but they are mostly just lowering the shoulder to charge past people. In the NBA today offense always gets the foul call - they want higher scores because fans like that. But there isn't really anybody fighting back, so it's not really "physical." There were three big differences in the 90s - One was that if on defense you had your feet planted and the offense charged into you, you'd get offensive fouls called much more often. So there were _wars_ off the ball with lots of physical play where the offense and defense under the basket fought for the position to have your feet planted between the ball handler and the basket, and a lot of the game was going back and forth between the guards and the bigs to reorient the threat and force the defense to reposition - and also to force double-team rotations. So, much more physical play - just not by the guy with the ball. Another was you were allowed, on defense, to just stand under the basket for as long as you wanted. This gave the defense a much better ability to block driving lanes and gave bigs a better opportunity to come out on help defense without having to commit. But on offense you couldn't stand in the key for longer than 3 seconds. So the offensive big would fight from the block to get into the lane, but had to keep going in and out, the defense could just stay there, the offense couldn't. Now the 3 second rule applies on both offense and defense so nobody is allowed to stand under the basket anyway. This also is to favor higher scores and to make defense impossible because the fans like when people score a lot and they think the players who score the most are super impressive and talented even if it's because the rules favor them a lot. The third is that offensive players were allowed to back down defensive players - to dribble backwards and bump away defensive players with their butts. You're not really allowed to do that anymore - it slowed the game down so now there's a 5-second rule where if you back down a player for too long the other team gets the ball - really it's a 3-second rule of course because if you get anywhere close to the paint the defender can't stand in the paint anyway for longer than that. Add that they've given offensive players the freedom to basically punch and hold the defensive player with their off-hand with impunity, but the defensive player gets called for a foul even if their arm doesn't move - defenders now play with their arms behind their backs because if the guy with the ball punches them in the arm the guy with the ball gets foul shots. It's all really stupid - and at this point the advantage of spacing is so much more obvious than it used to be that you could probably roll back a bunch of these rules and it wouldn't revert the style of play. The rules were created to _force_ teams to give the ball to guards with impressive handles who would get on highlight reels - they didn't take into account high screens or the dominance of the 3. I think if you put back the defensive 3-second rule it wouldn't matter that much to the balance of the game because a 2 point shot is still a 2 point shot and a 3 is worth more. But it would definitely hurt the points totals of guards that the league depends on framing as stars to drum up hype, so they probably wouldn't do it. But yeah, game now looks more physical if you only look at the guy with the ball, because the guy with the ball can do whatever he wants. But game back then was much more physical for everybody else on the floor, which is not where people are usually looking so you don't realize it unless you actually play basketball.
