Sortve hard not to do considering how awful this move is. Why give the Braves the money they need to sign Fried? His market was gonna be the Dodgers and Angels. Now its Dodgers, Angels and Braves
As an Angels fan, I don't mind this trade. Soler immediately becomes probably our second best hitter in the lineup assuming that Trout can stay healthy. I don't like the notion personally that we need to save the DH spot for Mike -- he will get his days as a DH but he is still a plus OF-er whether you want to keep him in CF or move him to a corner. His injuries have mostly all come in the batters box or on the base paths, and NOT out in the outfield, so he still will have the injury risk at DH. Soler's contract isn't all that bad, and still leaves us plenty of money to sign a Corbin Burnes or Max Fried (probably won't but we can afford it). On the other side, Griffin Canning was AWFUL last year -- actively lost us winnable games. He only has one arbitration year left and probably wasn't in our desired rotation next year... I would literally rather call up someone we just drafted like we usually do. I do agree with the sentiment that we should have tried to get some $ from the Braves, and I hope Perry tried. The Angels have to make a WHOLE lot of moves beyond this and get lucky with some of their young players to even make the playoffs. This trade in a vacuum I don't mind though.
1. Neto SS 2. Rengifo 3B 3. Trout LF 4. Soler DH 5. Ward RF 6. Schanuel 1B 7. O’Hoppe C 8. Adell/Moniak CF 9. Moore 2B To me it seemed like we’re getting ready to sign starting pitching
Angels fan here. I really like this move for the team. Most people are completely ignoring the fact that the Angels have a very good young core of players and that the bullpen was very good this year and the team is extremely cheap outside of Trout and Rendon. Soler really helps take pressure off a young lineup that showed growth and flashes (Neto 20/20 and Jo Adell gold glove finalist for example). Canning needed to leave. Yes the Angels need pitching but that’s not a reason to put horrible pitchers out there. You need GOOD pitchers not just a bunch of random guys who can eat innings but give up 8 runs while doing so. Canning was here for 4-5 years and the best we got out of him was a low 4 ERA. It’s a good thing to get rid of him and give a chance to a young pitcher in the farm system that everyone one ignores or to simply have an open spot for a possible free agent. Plus fans and Angels writers are expecting for Ward and or Tyler Anderson to get traded as well which means this could just be the start of a mass exodus of old BAD players and give a chance to some of the new recently drafted guys like Caden Dana or Christian Moore as well as seeing what the team can get in free agency. Obviously this isn’t a perfect trade and this trade is dependent on seeing what the team does in the rest of the offseason but honestly this feels like a good start.
Arte doesn't wanna rebuild because in his mind, nobody will come to the ballpark for a rebuilding team, and thats bad for business. This has been his issue for two decades. He makes short sighted player moves like Vernon Wells, Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton and Anthony Rendon for the sake of luring more casual fans tk the ballpark regardless of how poorly those deal will eventually end up.
Add Gary Matthew Jr to that list. He could've got a ton of picks had they traded Ohtani last summer and instead got nothing. I was doing backflips when he was selling the team and then rug pulled all of us. I give up as an Angels fan. Please trade Trout for Trout's sake even though I know it cannot happen now that he has prematurely gotten old.
Angels just gifted the Braves the money they needed to keep Fried. Which makes no sense because Fried shouldve been the Angels #1 target considering his desire to be in LA.
@ padres already cant afford to keep half the stars they have beyond 2025. They are not an option. Giants are not close to LA and arent closer to winning when you consider the division they play in. The AL West is wide open now with the Astros getting older
no he won't? if Fried doesn't come back, the Braves still have Sale, Schwellenbach, and López. they also have Strider when he comes back from injury and also guys like Smith-Shawver, Ian Anderson, and Hurston Waldrep in the minors that could also be ahead in the rotation.
I'll always be a Soler fan because of what he did for ATL in the world series, that game 6 bomb will never be forgotten. But I'm very glad this happened. Even if the new pitcher does nothing, the salary dump was worth it. Good luck to him in Anaheim.
As a lifelong Angels fan, I don't understand the "win-now" mentality at all. I've been calling and asking for a rebuild for the last few years. I even wanted Ohtani traded at the deadline last season. Arte is so stuck on trying to win now when we aren't even a Top 4 team in the AL West... Soler does fill in a spot where we had Willie Calhoun getting most of the DH AB's primarily and he will give us solid production. Before this trade happened, I had fully believed Trout would be the full time DH as he should be, but now it looks like Trout is still mentally stuck on telling Perry and the Angels he's not ready to call it quits in the OF this early. I see him as a corner OFer in the next few years.
Also, Canning has zero business being on this team. Braves 100% will fix him and I'm okay with it, it wasn't gonna happen in our system is the reality of the situation.
This looks like the Spenser Trumbal that the Phillies made last year. Canning as you point out could be a long inning reliever plus the 26 milllon to possibly bring in anthoner starter. Feel like this is a make or break offseason for Altntla and this could be a ver underrated start to it
Angels fan here. I disagree about 100%. Trout’s health is exactly why they made the move. The Angels have to build their roster under the assumption that Trout will not be healthy for significant portions of the season. Soler gives them a power bat in the DH slot if Trout does miss time. If he doesn’t, they’ll rotate him and Soler around the DH spot and corner outfield. 13M each year is not that much, Griffin canning has just not found it with the Angels and he’s entering his last arb year. If this is the only move the angels do, yes it’s absolutely a fail. I fully expect them to F it up, but I think the reasoning behind the move is fine.
@ It becomes 10 times more likely that’s for sure. The worst part about this trade is it pretty much guarantees that Fried will return to the Braves if the Dodgers dont get him.His market was the Angels and the Dodgers. Had the Dodgers decided against giving him a longterm deal (very possible) he was a lock to be an Angel. Now he will just go back to the Braves if that happens. Angels chances for Fried just went from about 40% to 2%
Soler is primary DH, takes over for Trout in the field when Trout is DH(about 30 games). This presumes Trout will no longer play CF. One possibility: Trout being traded...
I honestly don’t hate the move. I think it’s more of a chess move. If they stink next year and Soler looks great, you dump him for a prospect. Essentially paying for a prospect like the Mets did with Scherzer.
From only making the playoffs once in Mike Trout's legendary career, to committing money to the absolute wrong players, to letting Ohtani go for free, Angels fans have it exceptionally worse than almost any other fanbase in sports today.
Every move he makes? He made the Ohoppe for Marsh move that’s looking pretty good for the Halos. As well as the Estevez move this deadline, getting 2 top pitching prospects. Lol
Maybe they think Soler will be a trade target for some team that needs offense, and this puts them in a better spot to get the players they actually want?
Eh, as an Angels fan I'm fine with the trade. Canning at his best was a below average late rotation guy. Soler is taking at bats from guys like Willy Calhoun and Nik Kavadas. That's a major upgrade. If the off-season consists of extending Rengifo, Neto, O'Hoppe and getting a good starting pitcher I'm fine.
I'm good with this trade. The angels have given griffin plenty of time and opportunity. I think Canning can be good but won't reach his full potential without a change of scenery. Angels needed a bat with some pop and got one for the next 2 years now. If trout moves to the corner he won't need to be a full time DH in my opinion. I don't see how this trade is bad for either side. But hey I'm not a GM lol.
Yes us Angel fans HATE the owner. I don't hate Minasian. His moves are very feast or famine honestly, this move feels terrible. Second worst owner in baseball hands down. Personally I was super happy Shohei won the WS. I love that guy and what he did for us. But its TRULY the most angels thing ever: Shohei is on the team for 6 years, 0 playoff appearances. Goes to the dodgers? First time in the playoffs he wins it all.
I have no flipping idea why we did this. I can only see that we are freeing up space so we can overpay Buehler while also getting more power in the lineup. Just why did it have to be an outfielder!
I don’t see Buehler leaving the Dodgers just yet especially since he’s put himself in the position to get more money than previously expected thanks to his October performance
I think Buehler takes the qualifying offer from the Dodgers.He turned down 200 million to try and become a 300 million dollar pitcher. Now he is just gonna accept some 3 year 50 mill deal? No chance. He will just take the 21 mill qualifying offer from the Dodgers and try to prove he is an ace pitcher still in 2025. Which will be his first fully healthy year in 3 years
Griffin Canning is dogshit. Taking the whole contract is dogshit. We traded away 1 year of a terrible pitcher for 2 years of an okay player, but for some reason we're paying 24 million over those 2 years. We traded for a DH who has a lot of swing and miss, but he has a good OPS the past 2 years which is not what the Angels needed. Its a good trade for the Braves, and a meh trade for the Angels.
Life of a Halos fan. Watch this team continue to make embarrassingly moronic decisions while our neighbor does the right things every time and gets a championship out of it.
I think this is a good signing, so long as there are smarter ones coming up. Perry is saying this is the start of being "aggressive." Either way though, our batting lineup is just better w Soler in it
Perry is a talking Head. The Angels have THE worst owner in baseball in Arte Moreno and all he cares about is money he'll do anything to gain more money and just keep milking the cow that is the Angels dry. Anaheim fans like myself are just in constant pain and misery from this man The longest playoff drought in the league no future no farm system nothing This man doesn't care The day that man either sells the team or whatever else that involves the team being sold is the day that the rain cloud of that man is lifted off of that franchise and fan base And remember when he bought The team in 2003 they won the World Series the year prior that man is a parasite
So Canning is so much worse than Soler. But the Braves are really smart for this move and Angels are stupid? 🤦🏻♂️ This guy has no idea what he’s talking about. Neto, Ohoppe, Christian Moore and Schanuel but all they have is trout? Yeah, OKAY. Funny lol
Angels definitely won the trade I heard the angels are trying to contend and there owner is going to spend money solid trade for angles because canning sucks
Don't let this distract you from the fact that the worst baseball announcer in the history of sports, Bob Costas, finally retired and we won't ever have to listen to him calling MLB games again.
Marc doesn’t understand the angels have pitching that does enough to keep us in the games we play. It’s our offense using analytical crap and not going with their gut which is what has us struggling to score runs (and our owner meddling in operations). I love Marc’s content but at times when he talks angels, he doesn’t realize that his takes are false
I am stick and tired of every shitting on the Angels for doing things and not doing things we are paying 11 million more for a power batter canning was gonna cost 2.6 and plus we are only paying 13 million he is not due 18 million because it was a signing bonus so we don’t have to pay that much bad take on his part
Arte Moreno is the worst owner in sports. They have no debt and are top 4 in profit every single year. The stadium is atrocious, might be the worst in baseball now that Oakland is out of the picture.
This is a team that could’ve traded Ohtani for six top 100 prospects just a year and a half before his free agency. If they did that and traded trout they would have the brightest future in all of baseball right now. But instead they decided to keep Ohtani and let him leave for nothing, and let Trout’s value decline drastically. Artie isn’t necessarily stupid but he is so petty that it makes him look like it
Trout need to get off that team it’s getting embarrassing now At this point just retire we don’t care about your regular seasons anymore smh trout should have multiple rings smh 1 is not enough for that talent SHAME
