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@alexanderhossack7288
@alexanderhossack7288 2 года назад
Relentless assault doesn't work with etali, because it's cast in combat and not in a main phase, see wording of relentless assault, it just fizzles
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Good catch! The guys didn't see the wording on that when they cast it unfortunately. I guess it doesn't come up all that often unless playing against Etali.
@Darchias
@Darchias 2 года назад
Yeah Relentless Assault is weird that way.
@AxillaryPower2
@AxillaryPower2 2 года назад
Yeah, a surprisingly large number of extra combat spells say "after this main phase", as you'd come to discover while building a Velomachus deck. Savage Beating and World at War are the only instants/sorceries that work how you'd like.
@razielthedamn4301
@razielthedamn4301 2 года назад
Correct, but It doesnt fizzle since it doesnt have any targets. And it still untaps all attacking creatures.
@timelockedmaniac1694
@timelockedmaniac1694 2 года назад
Weird question but if you were to cast relentless assault on an opponent's main phase, they would get the additional combat and main phases right?
@Exaurilo
@Exaurilo 2 года назад
The amount of instant being played at sorcery speed in this game is staggering and surprising, wow
@TheMinecraftgator
@TheMinecraftgator 2 года назад
Cam throwing mental mistep across the table might be the funniest thing I've seen today
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 2 года назад
It's been a while since I've had the time to sit back and watch a Muddstah video on release day! Great game as always! 😁
@manshark4099
@manshark4099 2 года назад
Threat assessment is always mind boggling in different pods
@Coxgix7
@Coxgix7 2 года назад
Blowing up Keleth instead of Rograkh had me scratching my head for a moment
@gdiridium5525
@gdiridium5525 2 года назад
@@Coxgix7 because Rograkh had protection from Blue because of the Commander's Plate
@aorusaki
@aorusaki 2 года назад
@@gdiridium5525 yup
@Keos027
@Keos027 2 года назад
I see arcane flight playmat and I upvote. Tbh, I would have upvoted anyway as I always do, just wanted to have an excuse to comment and give you those sweet sweet algorithm points.
@JustforKikX
@JustforKikX 2 года назад
It's always a pleasure to see a Mayael game.
@garrettwilson2624
@garrettwilson2624 2 года назад
the most beautiful women in all of magic
@felixsonofscouty
@felixsonofscouty 2 года назад
Jori en is my favorite commander but barely anyone else plays her, so it is nice to see her here.
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад
she was one of my first commander decks and i love her
@SkellyBobRoss
@SkellyBobRoss 2 года назад
I'm surprised how strong Rograkh and Keleth can go. My Rograkh Keleth is just Rograkh and his mighty steeds. All the creatures are things Rograkh can ride into battle and I have all the extra combat step spells. There is so much fun in using Rograkh.
@dillpickle694
@dillpickle694 2 года назад
Haven’t seen a Mayeal deck in a hot second, let’s go naya
@brandonfrew3221
@brandonfrew3221 2 года назад
What a great game!!! Good ol fashion beat down Terror is kinda meh, but in a big creature deck it's too good to pass up
@marioortizveliz5221
@marioortizveliz5221 2 года назад
MAnnnn thxs for this video , Imma a Naya player , lovely video NAYA POWA!!!
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 2 года назад
Minor narrative (perhaps gameplay?) quibble - Jori En's draw trigger would happen before the Gitaxian Probe's trigger since Jori En's draw is on spell cast.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Most likely narration error.
@user-fd2co5xr7k
@user-fd2co5xr7k 2 года назад
Love seeing that people are still playing Mayael these days. I love my Mayael deck
@garrettwilson2624
@garrettwilson2624 2 года назад
same here, my fav deck that no one likes me playing lol.
@user-fd2co5xr7k
@user-fd2co5xr7k 2 года назад
@@garrettwilson2624 bruh. How are people gonna be salty about a Mayael deck? She has a 6 mana ability that you have to wait a turn to use, and the wincon is “smash face.” It’s so fair
@garrettwilson2624
@garrettwilson2624 2 года назад
@@user-fd2co5xr7k i’ve spent so much time and effort into making the deck as fine tuned as it can be, unless i’m playing cedh it will most likely win.
@user-fd2co5xr7k
@user-fd2co5xr7k 2 года назад
@@garrettwilson2624 Oh, sick! Do you have a decklist online?
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад
three of my favorite commanders sign me up
@garethsentry
@garethsentry 2 года назад
Great game
@TheThaelina
@TheThaelina 2 года назад
Man, playing at the Red Dragon. I played for years at a place called the Green Dragon. I wonder if the rest of the colors are out there somewhere...
@soulb_
@soulb_ 2 года назад
I played at a place called silver dragon!
@admanios
@admanios 2 года назад
Yay for Mayael! 🥰
@AP-lf7xd
@AP-lf7xd 2 года назад
congrats gerald!
@boynate95
@boynate95 2 года назад
I could be wrong but I don’t think you are able to attach Squee’s Embrace onto the commander when Commander’s Plate is equipped.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 2 года назад
Daaaaamn, seeing Jodah getting rekt was so good, he didn't win but that is a moral victory.
@The_Breaded92
@The_Breaded92 2 года назад
I felt bad lol. Sucks getting knocked out after playing 4-5 spells then having to sit there and watch your friends have fun without you 😅 didn't even get to cast his commander
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 2 года назад
@@The_Breaded92 Such is the way of Voltron.
@The_Breaded92
@The_Breaded92 2 года назад
@@faerie7dragon don't I know it. I used to play Rafiq back in the day. Either I was winning quick or was archenemy haha
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 2 года назад
@@The_Breaded92 As someone else once put it, EDH don't mind losing, they mind being the first one to lose!
@DummyUrD
@DummyUrD 2 года назад
@@The_Breaded92 I didn't feel bad at all, he only played ramp and a engine card. Those decks need to get punished. Put more interaction/early drops in your decks folks.
@michaelrichards5253
@michaelrichards5253 2 года назад
Good ol' Etali. 😀
@afspeellijstnaruto
@afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад
Cool match. I think Raf might have focussed too much on removal in his deck and casting / recasting them.
@GrompEconomics
@GrompEconomics 2 года назад
Odd question… does Raf have a Raff deck?
@ZidaneTribal1989
@ZidaneTribal1989 2 года назад
I just want to point out that on gatherer and in companion, both state Relentless Assault only creates an extra combat phase if the spell resolves during the main phase. It's the same with most spells that create extra combat phases.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Correct. I have pinned an earlier comment stating the same to the top of the video to help informed players of the mistake in this game.
@TCG9777
@TCG9777 2 года назад
Cam never stood a chance holy crap
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 2 года назад
Etali always does some work every time he crops up on the channel
@Gruntx24
@Gruntx24 2 года назад
love the games, is there any way to keep track of how many cards each player has in their hand? Would be good to know
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
It's something a few people have asked for, but it's a fair amount of additional work on my part, so I'm hesitant to bother with it unless it's really in demand / helpful.
@treycuret
@treycuret 2 года назад
@@MTGMuddstah It isn't helpful. The opening hands aren't even particularly helpful since no one goes for fast combo. Don't bother with cards in hand.
@plain6677
@plain6677 2 года назад
Why mental misstep in the Jodah’s deck? I’ve always wondered if it’s actually a good card outside of cedh
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 2 года назад
You'll always have a chance to wreck someone who kept a hand with little lands while counting on a Sol Ring... :P
@quinnquitars
@quinnquitars 2 года назад
I’m not sure if it’s good in edh either, but here is was pretty good. Turn one it could have countered a worldly tutor and the commanders plate.
@ChevronSeven
@ChevronSeven 2 года назад
Didn't matter much because of Inferno Titan...
@ReadDwarf
@ReadDwarf 2 года назад
Hey, I'm Cam! I play Mental Misstep because there's a lot of 1 mana plays in my meta, so I like to have some interaction around. It can also stop some combos by chance or value engines with low cmc artifacts for example.
@thedrakefrost
@thedrakefrost 2 года назад
Yay Mayael!!! Beefy beats for victory ✌🏻
@ercolacri3500
@ercolacri3500 2 года назад
Finally, a video where our girl Mayael actually does something!
@maxbodifee3263
@maxbodifee3263 2 года назад
Only she didn't.. all hard cast and solid ramp.
@MitchelTJones
@MitchelTJones 2 года назад
At 11:00 when Raf casts the evacuate for the second time it was when Nathan attempted to move to combat meaning after evacuation resolved it was still the precombat main phase and Nathan could have cast Etali, equip the boots and attempt to move to combat again right?
@levithompson1161
@levithompson1161 2 года назад
There is a time after moving phases but before attackers are declared where he cast it (beginning of combat phase). This meaning that he could not go back and recast things then swing with them.
@MitchelTJones
@MitchelTJones 2 года назад
@@levithompson1161 perfect, thanks Levi!
@Supsup516
@Supsup516 2 года назад
1:55 SHEESH
@TK-zd7ym
@TK-zd7ym Год назад
I have yet to see a game where Etali doesn’t wreck everything. It’s just so damn good
@richardgallegos9775
@richardgallegos9775 2 года назад
I think when Scott played Divine Reckoning Nylea was a creature he had dromoka (1), garruk +2, nylea +1, and mayael +1 so he had 5 devotion to green I'd assume since all get sacrificed at the same time she would have gone too
@admanios
@admanios 2 года назад
Divine Reckoning says "destroy".
@Hardiel93
@Hardiel93 2 года назад
Two questions, Why Nathan Etali survive the divine reckoning if the Etali had Shroud? and How Scott was able to equip that boros aura over his commander with protection to every color except red?
@entiao5570
@entiao5570 2 года назад
Shroud only stops "Target". Divine Reckoning does not interact with the greaves in any way. Scott played two partner commanders, setting his "commander's color identity" to red and white.
@greatbrandini3967
@greatbrandini3967 2 года назад
^yup, I had to look it up because I thought Commander's Plate gave a red partner pro 4 color, but they don't gain pro white in this case due to having a white partner
@wolffang7877
@wolffang7877 2 года назад
1:50 daaaaaaaaaaam cam said screw you nathan
@KasaiAisu1
@KasaiAisu1 2 года назад
Ahh it's a shame Scott destroyed Sol Ring before he died, Raf had the Archaeomancer + Evacuation loop going
@truetbird1730
@truetbird1730 2 года назад
Yeah I was just about to ask why Raf didn't keep the loop going, but I forgot the Sol got destroyed
@ninjafished
@ninjafished 2 года назад
He should've waited for his opponents attack step then evacuation then. Oh well
@beespangler7211
@beespangler7211 2 года назад
"Scott untaps and plays a mountain" ah fuck that's scary
@braydenfreudenthal8888
@braydenfreudenthal8888 Год назад
i just looooove it when someone brings a very fast voltron deck and doesnt allow another person to play the game cuz the ko turn 5. soooo fun to play against.
@thatonescarecrow4692
@thatonescarecrow4692 2 года назад
Not that it matters much, but second Evacuation couldn't pick up Xenagos because at the moment of resolving of spell his devotion was 6, and he was not a creature yet.
@bestregards9672
@bestregards9672 2 года назад
didnt he have some khan triggers during combat? he shoulda been doing more dmg
@armoric
@armoric 2 года назад
He chose Dragons to tap potential threats, esp. when the voltron deck had an unblockable equipment.
@jellysandjamz250
@jellysandjamz250 2 года назад
Turn one counter… gotta love blue
@jumpandreverse4551
@jumpandreverse4551 2 года назад
Anyone else see the mistake at 4:52 after damage step,( im pretty sure there's meant to be a creature still alive )
@tempiasjdoiasd
@tempiasjdoiasd 2 года назад
Nathan come on and use that Citadel Siege trigger.........
@peterschneider342
@peterschneider342 2 года назад
feeding the almighty algorithm
@mosselliadelt
@mosselliadelt 2 года назад
He could not attach squees embrace to Roger with commanders plate on him. Roger has protection from white, which includes white enchantment auras
@Wizardofexisting
@Wizardofexisting 2 года назад
Found the mistakes thread. Also noticed the relentless assault mishap. If it’s cast in combat from Etali’s trigger it doesn’t work due to timing restrictions.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
@@Wizardofexisting The Assault mishap has already been mentioned, and I've pinned a comment to the top of the video so people can be more informed. The Embrace play is actually fine. Please refer to this Gatherer ruling: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity. (2020-11-10)"
@Cerby24
@Cerby24 2 года назад
Kobold gang
@aeolus7762
@aeolus7762 2 года назад
Isn't Squee's Embrace an illegal cast targeting Rograkh because Commander's Plate gave it pro white? I know his deck's color identity is RW, but it says colors other than the CREATURE's color identity, not deck color identity.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Taken from Gatherer: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity."
@aeolus7762
@aeolus7762 2 года назад
@@MTGMuddstah That's very interesting! Normally you would think the other way, but I guess since they are, in essence, one set of commanders, this makes sense.
@Bheckler24
@Bheckler24 2 года назад
@@aeolus7762 It's a bit unintuitive, especially since something like commander damage is counted separately.
@antonio2708
@antonio2708 2 года назад
Raff could be hold the game with Archaeomancer+Evacuation locking the game until he have condition to win.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
He could have kept bouncing stuff sure, but Nathan would have just kept recasting Inferno Titan to bolt Raf on each of his turns. Nathan would also draw into a Woodfall Primus which was going to start hitting lands as well.
@antonio2708
@antonio2708 2 года назад
@@MTGMuddstah yeah, but he would gain some time, maybe I would try to play in that direction, because the Nathan's strategy was already know... 🤔🤔🤔
@PhilClayton89
@PhilClayton89 2 года назад
Shouldn't Nathan be able to just redeploy his creatures, equip one with Lightning Greaves and then attack after Raf cast Evacuation? Raf has to cast it either in Nathans first Main Phase, and then prio gets back to Nathan and he could cast Etali again and attack; or Raf casts Evacuation during combat, but then could only do so after attackers are declared and Nathan gets the attack triggers from Sun Titan and Etali? See 10:50 for example
@armoric
@armoric 2 года назад
There's a "beginning of combat" step, before the "declare attackers" step, which is when you cast these spells to mess with attackers.
@PhilClayton89
@PhilClayton89 2 года назад
@@armoric Yeah you're totally right, had to read up on combat rules again but it makes sense, thanks
@matteobagni1235
@matteobagni1235 2 года назад
I don't think you can embrace Rog while he has the plate on
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
The Embrace play is actually fine. Please refer to this Gatherer ruling: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity. (2020-11-10)"
@lukecormier6913
@lukecormier6913 2 года назад
So is Nathan just un aware he could have gotten none basics with the krosan verge?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
He knew. He just chose to grab basics. Nothing wrong with that.
@lukecormier6913
@lukecormier6913 2 года назад
@@MTGMuddstah true I was just confused cause the very next turn he sun titans his marsh flats to get a none basic so I was just wondering
@AP-lf7xd
@AP-lf7xd 2 года назад
look i dont like dealing with jodah at the best of times, but poor cam just getting destroyed
@The_Breaded92
@The_Breaded92 2 года назад
My group hated on Jodah so much I had to break it down lol. Guess they didn't like my T5 Expropriate 🤷🏾‍♂️ I'll build him again with a vengeance after I get bored with my other decks
@CameronRodwell
@CameronRodwell 2 года назад
Awww Jodah is my boy so sad to see another Cam playing Jodah getting smacked out so early.
@ReadDwarf
@ReadDwarf 2 года назад
I've had my fair share of beating the table down that quickly before as well, so I'm not too miffed about it.
@omnislash882004
@omnislash882004 2 года назад
Threat assessment seemed a bit poor in the early turns.
@CriticoDeNo0bs
@CriticoDeNo0bs 2 года назад
Seeing a Mental Misstep outside of cEDH is kinda weird
@ReadDwarf
@ReadDwarf 2 года назад
My playgroup grazes the edge of cEDH every now and then, so I have to be ready to throw down
@davidross5305
@davidross5305 2 года назад
God I love that a commander deck can just not cast it's commander and beat the living heck out of people
@Foofoothegoon
@Foofoothegoon 2 года назад
Okay so this is really minor and I'm not sure that you'll see this but it's been bothering me a while across many of your videos and I feel obliged to point it out. "To which [someone] responds to" is a tautology. It's "which [someone] responds to" or "to which [someone] responds". Again, very minor and I hope I'm not coming across as petty here. I really enjoy your content.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Fair enough! I'll try to correct myself moving forward.
@Foofoothegoon
@Foofoothegoon 2 года назад
@antony_ag
@antony_ag 2 года назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but Squee's embrace doesn't work while commander's plate is attached to Rograk because it has protection from white due to rograk only being a red commander not a red-white commander
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Taken from Gatherer: "If you have two commanders and attach Commander’s Plate to one, it has protection from each color not in your two commanders’ combined color identity."
@antony_ag
@antony_ag 2 года назад
Okay, Now I know more for when I see it again Thanks
@jester2720
@jester2720 2 года назад
Jori en player had a soft lock with bouncing all the creatures repeatedly each time till he found the the answer??? Kinda trolley but look at all those Triggers the other player had going off lol...
@michelzimmer9324
@michelzimmer9324 2 года назад
First!
@jsum33
@jsum33 2 года назад
Oh my goodness if someone threw a card at me like that douche did with that Mental Misstep they'd be getting it back in two pieces. They might even eat a two piece of what followed out of their mouth was anything but an apology. So satisfying to see them be the first out.
@douglatins
@douglatins 2 года назад
Mr keyboard warrior here
@ReadDwarf
@ReadDwarf 2 года назад
Hey dude, chill a bit. When someone tutors like that on turn 1, going first, they're going to start searching without thinking to wait. That's totally normal. But if I'm going to counter them, I want to make sure that I get their attention before they start resolving their spell. So you just throw it on the table to get it out with a laugh and a smile. It's a game bro, nothing personal.
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