Merry Melee #5: Seton vs Jodah vs Trostani vs Derevi EDH / CMDR game play

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@ErikTheRedd1 4 года назад

"Hello officer, *I'd like to report a triple homicide* "

@nicholasberry8456 4 года назад

Technically 5 people died

@noalsono8481 4 года назад

Chris’s opening hand is worth more than my parents sold me for on the black market

@donalds2378 4 года назад

Someone playing jodah extra turns other people "let's kill a mono green fun deck first"

@willemboele2079 4 года назад

that's fun to say in heindsight (fuck me how do you spell that) but the "fun" mono green deck was going off hard a-f. one expropriate also doesn't instantly mean the deck is completely stuffed with turn spells, that's just one of those cards that you play because you own it and it would be a waste not to. i would have done something to the mono green player first too, i have seen seton decks, they can go to town.

@PlutoDarknight 4 года назад

@@willemboele2079 C'mon, it's Jodah, what were you expecting? Sure, he wouldn't run every single turn spell under the sun but after Expropriate I'd definitely expect him running Nexus of Fate, maybe even Beacon of Tomorrow but definitely Time Stretch. Considering he used his demon to tutor as well, that was horrendous threat assessment from Oliver to focus on the mono green player.

@XxCerebratexX 4 года назад

Oliver threat assesment was shameful, it's the only thing I thought the whole game.

@liamsmith2183 4 года назад

Yeah I was really confused why he was targeting Ariel's stuff.

@charliethai2603 4 года назад

I felt the same way too. The whole time i'm like "why Ariel....", should've countered Chris stuff instead, let Ariel take Chris out of the game, and then go after Ariel since Oliver didn't have much damage on board.

@JABTX81 4 года назад

I was going to say so myself, I get Seton +Aluren is dangerous but Chris has shown he is dropping bombs for WUBRG

@samyravs7792 4 года назад

Absolutely trash plays lmfso

@demonicgrub1025 4 года назад

Agreed. I saw the swords to plowshares come out and I was like, oh thank god sheoldred is gone. Oh wait......

@noalsono8481 4 года назад

Aven Mindcensor would’ve been Chris’s until end of turn, so he could’ve used the demon to tutor through his whole deck

@chihshiangshee9002 4 года назад

Agreed I was wondering why he gave back all his creatures when his turn wasn't finished.

@tedgop1932 4 года назад

Counter heroic intervention.... I was like : nooooooo ! You forget the jodah player!!!!!! And insurrection... hahaha

@BangThatGong 4 года назад

Really wanted to see more of Seton, sad to see it go out because Oliver tunneled him the whole game, instead of the player to his left.

@dt1276 4 года назад

It really frustrates me when bad threat assessment knocks out the more interesting decks at the table.

@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад

Yep, Seton is so fun to play as! Especially when Paradox Engine was unbanned, and he could actually step into the cEDH scene.

@Customerbuilder 4 года назад

Totally agree. Painful to watch what could have been a great game. Really frustrating to see Andrew not hit the Jodah player's Mox Diamond. Seton was really interesting though. And, I know play mistakes are a thing, but why sac Mirror Entity, instead of E-Wit? He's one of your wincons! At 7:53 he could be swinging w/ four 9/9s, instead of blowing two of his best spells.

@ElusiveOtter 4 года назад

“Cause three is bigger than two.” Me: Counts on fingers Guys, I think he might be right on this! 😮

@BrendanCS 4 года назад

That was absurd, I loved it, I always knew Jodah was capable of crazy thing but had never seen it pulled off.

@maxmaier7023 4 года назад

Yo this was a really lackluster game. Oliver's threat assesment was AWFUL. Prejiduce against Jodah aside, Chris was clearly the threat almost from the start, and shouldve been the target of the control. Andrew, you tried man, but Oliver really blew everyone's chances this game. Ariel, i hope to see more of your Seton deck if possible in a future video! Maybe without the cancerous jodah deck and better threat assesment across the board. Sidenote: Thank you for so many videos this week!

@LAmanafull6246 4 года назад

Cancerous, no, i would say "i-have-no-imagination-at-all-jodah". At least in my playgroup, the only one jodah is fun... (it's a 9CCM tribal deck)

@Fear910 4 года назад

@@LAmanafull6246 Muddstah kept such a slow hand, he was punished for it

@willemboele2079 4 года назад

how was he the threat from the start exactly? yodah had a sheoldred and a jodah in the command zone, ariel was probably going to either win next turn or win the turn after that. dealing with something on ariel was the safer bet and debatably the right choice. not "AWFUL". still a dumb game, yodah decks like this make me whince a little.

@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад

"Oliver" has the letters "E", "V", "I" and "L"... clever disguise, Evil Adam. >:)

@harris9324 4 года назад

lmao

@Customerbuilder 4 года назад

It's odd to think about it now, but I really miss those NJ-players. Just good players w/ good threat assessment. Evil Adam wouldn't have played nearly this badly.

@boruihu2310 4 года назад

Felt like terrible threat assessment there, when Oliver used a removal and a counterspell to take out the dusk watch recruiter, and left nothing open for Jodah, and Mustah could have swords the Jodah on upkeep or end of Oliver's turn at least, to deny the ability

@Nailgraizer 4 года назад

Yes! Oliver severely messed up, seems like he got tunnel vision on Ariel. Essentially paving the way for Jodah to bash everyone out.

@Nailgraizer 4 года назад

I'll just counter this stupid artifact...turn 4 Expropriate. Womp womp.

@ignalol 4 года назад

yet to find a derevi player with half functioning brain

@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад

Yes, talk about huge lack of threat assessment. Seton can be dangerous, but why throw out a counterspell so early for card that Seton doesn't even need. The obvious threat should of been Jodah at the very beginning, and than worry about the others.

@peruru84 4 года назад

Also, that return to dust should've hit both moxen instead of just Oliver's artifacts. Jodah wouldn't have had the 5th color to use the ability. And yeah, that Swords was WAY too late in the turn. I feel like people are blaming Oliver but really Mudstah dropped the ball really hard that turn.

@sylorknag 4 года назад

Imagine using a sword on a dusk watch recruiter with Sheoldred on the table, than wasting a counterspell with Jodah on the field as well, well played Derevi player....

@cristianprado8559 4 года назад

kinda disappointed with the derevi player feels like he threw this game away with his bad threat assessment and didn't play much around derevi's untap ability (casting spells the wrong order and with straight bad decisions) you tried andrew, and it's not like jodah is op or anything, it was just bad threat assessment. love the content as always

@artemoila1 4 года назад

Chris had a lot of fun today.

@Medium_Mac 4 года назад

This music made me shed a tear with every spell played

@guillermogomez7429 4 года назад

I need that muddstah’s goblin pawn shop playmat in my life!

@crovax1375 4 года назад

I once brought a spoon to robot fight that had very similar results

@TheAntoniusFunk 4 года назад

There were some missed triggers and interesting threat assessments in this one for sure. Moral of the story y'all: DONT LET JODAH LIVE. And if he does, KEEP YOUR COUNTERSPELLS FOR THAT PLAYERS TURN.

@kasualh 4 года назад

Gross. Andrew, thanks for a great year of games and happy new year!

@CoheedLeonard 4 года назад

This video was very frustrating for me to watch. My play group would NEVER let Jodah stay on the field and do that much work.

@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад

It is very frustrating especially when a player has a counter-spell, but uses it on a very low threat when somebody is playing Jodah.

@couver2997 4 года назад

We've been so spoiled with the extra games this month. It's gonna be tough come January. Still thanks for the extra holiday games Muddstah!

@noalsono8481 4 года назад

Umm...quick thing on expropriate: once you start declaring votes, the time to respond has passed. You can’t respond to the votes. Didn’t matter much, just wanted to take note of it. Thanks for the bonus videos Muddstah!

@alphonse2234 4 года назад

No Also No Only one way you should be voting anyway. Especially at this point in the game. An extra turn is worth way more than some random do nothing permanent.

@gfkxj123 4 года назад

@@alphonse2234 Miraris wake

@darksteelmenace595 4 года назад

@@alphonse2234 depends on the permanents. You don't want someone to start even one extra turn with something like omniscience.

@alphonse2234 4 года назад

DarkSteelMenace I was referring to the board state in this video when it was cast.

@darksteelmenace595 4 года назад

@@alphonse2234 Your first point sounded pretty general

@lazaruscomplexofficial 4 года назад

SETON i love him i made a seton deck as a joke and it took off with hydras and draw spells its WILD

@jacobbono 4 года назад

As a former Jodah player, I'm very confused as to how the game kept going once Chris resolved an Expropriate with Enter the Infinite in hand.

@badcat6767 4 года назад

When Chris casted the Insurrection, he was supposed to gain control of the creatures until end of turn, but he gave them back at the end of combat. Still a good video.

@FakeNihilus 4 года назад

Your Trostani deck made me start building it! ❤️

@anachronity9002 4 года назад

Oliver missed an infinite combo he had due to Aluren at 7:28 Flash in mirror entity and spellseeker at end of turn, but search up something to help you draw or find more cards rather than swords. Activate mirror entity 80 times for 0, let the first one wipe your board, then re-cast Derevi from the command zone for free with Aluren in response to each of the entity triggers. Use Derevi's untaps for infinite mana, and grab a win-con.

@Tauske 4 года назад

Holy Crap. MTG Muddstah, I really hope you can get that Jodah list up. I'm really curious to see the rest of that list, it was nothing but gas non stop. Lol. Also yeah it's rare to see your Trostani deck so that little in a game, you were just kinda there. >_

@fillintheblank8240 4 года назад

That was nice of Oliver to help Chris win.

@franciscoalves302 3 года назад

Is there still a list of the Jodah deck? I'm wanting to ride and i liked the lineup, wanted to have a base of the extra turn deck.

@brandonmyers1876 4 года назад

Andrew has removal and doesn't exile jodah at the end of Oliver's turn. Rule of facing commander centric decks is keep the commander off the table if possible. Also might have been worthwhile hitting Chris's mana rock with return to dust to slow him down, it does more than Oliver's signet.

@muhdafiq3329 4 года назад

i have a jodah deck (now turned into golos) that does exactly the same thing. just playing big spells for unfair amount of mana

@tocadogoblin7305 4 года назад

What happened with the "Evil Adam"? He played with Derevi and Rakdos deck.

@CeltiesSin 4 года назад

I only ever thought of Sevala and Ghalta as cEDH mono green decks, but that Seton is pretty dope •_•

@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад

That's because Seton druid tribal is rather obscure, especially after the Paradox Engine ban.

@b_olson542 4 года назад

Nice dining table light!

@orsettomorbido 4 года назад

An aquaintance of mine plays seton (a little bit different list. No combo (we use a point system during our tournaments that makes almost all infinite loops not feasible, together with land destruction and locks), all on permanents + genesis wave and primal surge. In our casual meta it's stupidly powerful. It's REALLY a great deck is constructed properly.

@orgazmo686971 4 года назад

SETON!!!! Haven't watched yet, but love it already. Disappointed, he didn't go off on the Glimpse the way he should have. Looks like he made a few misplays.

@solidmasterdante 4 года назад

Mm. Mm mm mm. That's beautiful. There's just something nice about seeing a pile of basically all the biggest "fuck you" creatures in the game. Three Praetors, some Eldrazi, Maelstrom Wanderer, MORE THAN ONE of those silly, big-ass spirits from Kamigawa, etc. Heck of a board. Ya love to see it.

@meps8965 4 года назад

Are you still planning on a conquering your commander - mistform video? Pls do

@rhyuke 4 года назад

Did Chris return the lands he took when Ariel died?

@robertleeshinkle1563 2 года назад

When he played insurrection, he would still have Aven Mindcensor under his control and second main play the demon and search his entire library, or was something left out of the video?

@zackh7829 4 года назад

With threat assessment this peculiar, I wonder if some additional context might help the game make more sense. While watching other gameplay videos where you can hear the players interact, it’s easy to pick up on salt and grudges, etc. Perhaps including such context in the voice over would help?

@Vinzer 4 года назад

edh is truly casual when someone plays a tuned derevi deck and completely ignores a jodah player, that was mind-boggling

@DeanJayJackmanJr 4 года назад

Whenever I see Jodah, I can't help but hear the CEDH TV guy with his accent saying "Jooadah"

@willemdevries6611 4 года назад

jodah deck is not really fun to play against or even see being played, just a combi of 5 mana highest salt cards

@MrJC1122 4 года назад

Everyone talking about Oliver, but Andrew could've targeted Chris's Mox diamond to keep him off of WUBRG if he didn't draw a correct land on his next turn. Great game nonetheless!

@frankieh 4 года назад

Muddstah, did you bring a water pistol to an all out bazooka battle?

@frankieh 4 года назад

HA HA HA, you all but said the same thing at the end of the video. Dude, that was rough.

@orsettomorbido 4 года назад

I don't understand why the SpellSeeker was not sacrificed instead of the Entity. Entity is a card that does something when on the battlefield, the seeker is not. Maybe because it can be bounced?

@silverulv 4 года назад

Which song plays during the game? It says Holiday Weasel by Kevin MacLeod in your commentary, but it doesn't seem to be the correct song. Your content's swell as always. Keep it up.

@GraveGeist482 4 года назад

Definitely felt like a bit of a throw-away game. Jodah was permitted too much time on the battlefield which just let him run away with the whole thing. There was just no interaction with the threat at the table.

@gxantor 4 года назад

Hell yeah

@pauloalvarado3653 4 года назад

the power lvl is going up

@nebula8851 4 года назад

I know people are ragging on Oliver, so I'll say this. No one expects a Turn 7 Expropriate, even in Jodah. Countering cards which slow down your game plan is acceptable, and ignoring the combo player's tutor engine to focus spot removal on a generic Goodstuff card would have been a mistake.

@shapooopiefour7173 4 года назад

Seton is a small creature tribal? Interesting

@alphonse2234 4 года назад

Leave Jodah relatively unchecked and he will win games. Definitely deserved more hate this game.

@ronnocrocks 4 года назад

Nice to see my boy Judah wrecking house

@TheProjectplayer 4 года назад

lol Olivers turn 5 vindictive play lost the whole table the game

@RyokoYoichi 4 года назад

It seems like I am gonna build Seton

@addambarcelos 4 года назад

You simply can't leave jodah unchecked

@rioscardot 4 года назад

Don't understand why that swords to plowshares didn't go to that sheoldred at 7:42

@TheAntoniusFunk 4 года назад

RIght? I saw that and immediately thought, "well this game is donezo."

@ivernedit4132 4 года назад

Tragic game for Andrew

@kajun316 4 года назад

woot!

@Szass29 4 года назад

Can we please please please get a deck list from the Jodah

@bulletpenguinproductions8960 4 года назад

Content duration dec 12 2019 to jan27 2019... earlier this year. Marty, to the time machine

@mmcgonig1 4 года назад

I would like to see Chris’s decklist.

@sirpumpyshits 4 года назад

You sound tired, Muddstah. Go easy if you have to, my dude, we'll still be here for the games you post. Game-wise, I have to feel for Ariel there. Mono-green is very fast, and can draw hate it doesn't deserve thanks to early board position. It really doesn't earn it, though, because of what else it does with all those extra cards and mana. Don't get me wrong, green puts in work, but I'm thinking about what blue needs 10 mana for versus what green needs 10 mana for.

@Spacetortise 4 года назад

Holy shit that initial negate gave me an aneurism. Then realizing Oliver has GOD AWFUL threat assessment. This literally reminds me of some of the games I play. You see a Jodah player going off with a sheoldred but you focus a green player. 🙃

@darksteelmenace595 4 года назад

Chris drops Vorinclex My respect for Chris drops Coincidence? I think not

@dantejones2045 4 года назад

Jodah decklist?

@cloudstriaf 4 года назад

So don't play with Oliver... gotcha!

@alexvieira2459 4 года назад

What abou evil adam ?

@TheBalogna7 4 года назад

I feel like everyone complaining about Oliver's threat assessment are letting perfect knowledge cloud their judgement. Considering what Oliver likely knew about Chris' hand, countering the Thorn and killing the Duskwatch Recruiter were both the correct choice at the time they were made.

@JurinoJr 4 года назад

Did this game of commander make you depressed or why this choice of music?

@matiasrochaix2234 4 года назад

The Derevi player threat assessment was a bit low honestly.

@meps8965 4 года назад

damn i was hoping evil adam is back

@Kazz1187 4 года назад

I saw derevi and thought evil Adam was making a comeback!

@LiberatorGalore 4 года назад

That trostani openi Hans I would have mulligan

@Platinumstyx 4 года назад

Bring back Ariel's and this deck! It was sweet!

@mugiwaralee9592 4 года назад

That was the kind of game that makes me take a month long hiatus from EDH not gonna lie. That was just not a fun game to watch.

@vincentwashburn3382 4 года назад

Bring back Evil Adam Plz. Up vote I miss his playstyle!

@quatha 4 года назад

Someone should've told Chris about the power level at the table

@AidanWR 4 года назад

Ariel not tapping the Forest in response to it being taken :|

@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад

...did Chris seriously steal lands when he could have stolen Sylvan Library and Aven Mindcensor? Also, he controlled the Mindcensor until end of turn thanks to Insurrection, so he wasn't restricted to his top four cards when he cast Rune-Scarred Demon.

@michaelmaddox2536 4 года назад

I mean, Jodah is arch enemy level when brought to a casual game.q

@DeanJayJackmanJr 4 года назад

I love when folks are critical of people's threat assessment. There may be grains of truth in the criticisms but what most fail to see is the human element. Often times I find people will opt for a decision that is personally pleasing rather than a play that could be more optimal. It's easy to see in hindsight when you watch the game in such a condensed format but this isn't the only game they played in that day. There could be other factors that inform someone's decision such as a previous game or a shear flippant preference. Sure mistakes are made, but that's ok!

@coreysierchio4650 4 года назад

Sheoldred seemed like the more likely target for Swords to Plowshares.

@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453 4 года назад

Oliver really should of searched cyclonic rift with spellspeaker instead of swords.

@orsettomorbido 4 года назад

Probably the piles could have been made better, i guess XD

@Eliarbreton 4 года назад

Seton

@josephg279 4 года назад

Turn 4 expropriate

@MetalFerno09 4 года назад

I missed this intro not gonna lie

@willemboele2079 4 года назад

everyone who said oliver had bad threat assesment, listen up yes chris just resolved an expropriate. he took one turn and 3 lands. that's not that scary tbh. it's a "wow that was fast" but not game breaking. oliver probably would have targetted him and should have, but did you see ariel's turn? he played a buttfuck of shit that could easily have put him into a very dominating position next turn, on the other hand oliver just had a sheoldred, which could have taken care of a little of ariel's board. anyone who says that oliver has brain damage has never played against a REALLY good mono-green deck.

@angelascholl611 4 года назад

Ahh, I see you trying to be sneaky not announcing cracking your Blighted Woodland with an Aven Mindcensor on the field..... *insert deceptive goblin noises* Didn't really make an impact on the game, though

@thaddeuspaulbrillantes2482 4 года назад

Tough game. Everyone except Andrew really wanted to win.

@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад

Player of the game was Oliver with that horrible threat assessment, that helped Jodah go off. Look just because you have a counterpell doesn't mean you have to use it right away, no reason to show so much hate on that poor Seton.