Josh Buice Explains the Need to Separate From the SBC 

Christ does not need the SBC to continue to spread the gospel. Christ *_will_* build His church.

Time to decide, what is more important, a clean conscience before God, or going along to get along with men who have no respect for God and His Word.

Way to stand up Josh Buice...thank you

Way to go Josh! I believe God will bless your decision

Amen! Strong and disappointing but truthful. Thank you for your courageous stand

Thank God for leaders publicly standing up and calling the current SBC out for its tragic state. May God bring a full flushing of the wolves within or entirely replace them with what the true Church is called to be: Light amidst darkness.

Thank you for spelling it out & we appreciate the truth.

Bravo! Well said!

A man with integrity, a shepherd who protects his flock.

Extremely well spoken and succinct. I'm a missionary is Asia and, although I have been a southern baptist for most of my life, I could not put into words why I was so ill-at-east with much of what was coming from SBC leadership .I thought maybe the culture was changing and I'm just out of the loop. And then when the Ed Litton plagiarism video cropped up (along with JD Greear's use of Paul Tripp's mission story as his own) , I became very grateful we moved here independently to serve. This video helped clarify my thoughts and was a blessing to me. Thank you, Pastor Buice.

That's a good point about the education and missions arms. Sad sad state of affairs. But so true. As a current SBC pastor myself I increasingly have my issues and will see how June SBC goes .

Thanks for the clarity and the courage to make a firm decision.

It is amazing how SBC preachers are just now recognizing things about the SBC that has been the case a very long time. I was raised in an SBC Church and my family left as a child because of these very same issues. And now I do not Pastor a Church that is a SBC. They have had problems with false doctrine in church plants for a long time. And they have had an issue with their seminaries and schools for a long time. Al Mohler turned around Southern Seminary doctrinally, at one time, just to fall into the trap of CRT and Social Justice. So, this problem has existed for a long, long time.

The SBC should remove Ed Litton, this is The type of Pastor the SBC needs.....AMEN PASTOR.....

Would you rather be judged by God or by the leaders of the SBC? I think Josh and G3 know they must obey God.

Josh, God is smiling on you! James 5:12 "Blessed are they who persevere under trials for when they have stood the test they shall receive a crown of life that God has promised for those who love Him". Who who ever thought that we would suffer persecution from our own denomination? Stay strong Josh. The church needs shepherds like you.

Too much POLITICS in the Christian church today. Way too much.

Amos 8:11 - Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord

Grateful to hear Rev. Buive's response to the SBCdowngrade.

Amen. Very well said. The SBC is a dumpster fire. Get out.

Praise God for these godly leaders. Praying our Lord will bless and grow their numbers.🙏🏻❤️✝️

For you Lord for this man. Standing for what’s right

Going along to get along was never in my Saviors vocabulary, and thus it will never be in mine .. ✝️🔥

God bless you brother.

Churches have been leaving the SBC for a long time for the same reasons. As a independent Baptist I have heard the stories of years ago when many churches left the SBC.

Josh Buice !👏👏👏

God help the people and leaders in G3 to remain faithful for His glory.

Honestly this should have happened before this. The SBC seminaries have been sketchy for a good while now. There should be 0 tolerance for this and once it is discovered for sure it needs to happen immediately, before more men are corrupted by false teaching.

Truth bombs!

I go to a SBC school and I am dealing with conflict because people cannot follow the Bible. So, I am making a decision to leave the SBC all together and it is going to take a while to do it. I just cannot be behind something that just indoctrinated people into thinking that leaders should not be accountable and that you are the problem. I just do not understand how the SBC can influence its locate churches to do bad things.

Wow!

Amen, Semper Chistus

Dang that's a powerhouse of men if I've ever seen it

The problem with the SBC seminaries is that they seem to be far more concerned with being accepted and liked by the broader academic community than with preparing faithful church leaders, theologians, Bible scholars, and evangelists/missionaries.

I'm of Mennonite decent, which means little to me since the Canadian Mennonite Conference in 2016 voted in gay marriage. I follow Christ and not Menno Simmons. The leadership was pushing a different gospel, which is a false gospel. At that point the Conference ceased to be Christian (obviously the change happened long before) and I was determined to leave at that point. What ever one's denomination is, is of no value, if it abandons Christ. Great video.

There's nothing to think about. The SBC has embraced CRT and intersectionality. It's your duty to God to cut ties with them.

So heartbreaking--at one time the SBC really stood for the truth and was a beacon for truth and missions. I have seen the downfall over the last 60 years. Satan is having his day!! Don't think he was not in this from the start!!! Beware all of Christ's Churches!!!!! Satan wants you, too!!! Oh, be watchful and stay the course of Jesus Christ!!!!

Christ doesn't need the SBC or G3. However he will use the good in both. As well as the evil. Why? Because his plan is Sovereign.

These issues are a natural product of Semi-Pelagianism. You didn't see these issues when Baptists were largely confessional and Reformed. Arminianism kept spreading and the SBC as you see it today is the fruit. Well said Josh. I am praying for wisdom as I lead my own Church

i want to hear from Paul Washer about this.....

I got deliverance from the baptists years ago. Best thing!!

As far as I know, the SBC is now expelling Baptist churches that have Women Pastors.

2 Thess 2; the great falling away....then comes the Rapture then the tribulation.

When we leave off preaching the Gospel for building institutions then the Gospel of Christ will leave us.

Not sure why anyone or any genuine church would be a part of any denomination. Not a New Testament model. I’ve yet to come across a denominational church that looks and functions like a genuine New Testament church.

I don’t know if this is the correct tack or not. It may have been better to save the SBC and defrock pastors that stepped outside of the doctrinal boundaries-

What is the problem that he sees with the SBC educational instutions? Are we talking about places such as Southern seminary or Southeastern seminary?

Personally, I'm not ready to leave the SBC yet. I plan to wait a couple of years and see what happens, and then go from there. I do agree wholeheartedly that the SBC needs local churches more than local churches need the SBC. Not long ago, our church unanimously adopted a resolution on local church autonomy and sent it to various leaders in the SBC. We let them know in no uncertain terms that our autonomy is not negotiable, and it will be their loss if they attempt to infringe on it.

I would like to suggest reading Twisted Scripture by Andrew Farley to everyone on this thread.

It doesn't matter that Josh Buice is saying separate from the SBC. The SBC and Josh promote false gospels. The true gospel is the good news of the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. In other words, it is concerning who Christ is and what He did to save His elect only. The gospel includes the how and why, which can only be seen by faith. It is a message that declares how the eternal Son of God came down, took on a body of sinless flesh (John 1:14) as He was born of a virgin (Mat 1:23). He was both God and man in one Person. He was born under the Law to keep and fulfill it (Mat 5:18, Gal 4:4). He did that, not for Himself, but for all those He represented because they could not keep it themselves. The word of God calls these people the elect or His sheep, among several other names. His obedient life also included the part of dying. He took on the sin of His people as both a Substitute and Representative of those people. The Bible said He was "made to be sin" (II Cor 5:21) and the way that was done is by God imputing (legally reckoned or charged to the account of) sin to Christ. That means all the sin of all those people God chose was "laid on Him" (Isaiah 53:6). This sin was legally transferred to His account and He then owned it in such a way to be guilty of it all. God the Father poured out His wrath and hatred toward sin on His Son and had pleasure (Isaiah 53:10) in doing so, in that, He was completely satisfied in Christ as a Sacrifice that met all the demands of His strict Law and inflexible justice. Christ finished the work of paying the penalty of the Law and then said " It is finished" (John 19:30). He secured salvation for all God’s chosen people that would even be born. His resurrection is evidence of the acceptance of His sacrifice to the Father. The combined work of His obedience to the Law and His obedience unto death on the cross was considered establishing righteousness. This is what one of the Old Testament prophets prophesied as "bringing in an everlasting righteousness" (Daniel 9:24) as Christ died effectually and exclusively for those chosen of God before the world began (Eph 1:4). This righteousness is what God imputes to His people in the context of giving the life to believe in Christ. This puts them in a state called "Justification" and as a result they are eternally secure, in Christ. This is the gospel (Rom 1:16-17). All this takes place in such a way to show God as both a God of justice and a Savior. This is how grace reigns through righteousness (Rom 5:21)

If you're going to engage in the unbiblical nature, of Sunday keeping, problems, and fracturing will never stop haunting. Embrace, that which God, sanctified, and made holy, you will end problems, with the bonus of being blessed. Revelation 22:14

Get out of there 👍 Woman pastors should have been a clue to leave.Colossians 3:1-17 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

I used to a Southern Baptist, and I'm still kind of a Christian. But I'm also confused. All these guys have such a problem with women. Why is everyone so afraid of women? I just don't get it.

In my lifetime, I’ve attended baptist services scores of times and almost always felt “at home” enough to participate. I appreciate baptists’ emphasis on justification and baptism (immersion) of believers. I’ve never been a voting member of a baptist congregation but I hope my observations might be of some help to people involved in this discussion. I consider the biblical usage of the word “church” to fall in two categories: 1: as a reference to everyone worldwide who are learning to trust the Messiah and 2: when identified as the church in a certain place, as a reference to those same people in a given location (city, town or village). In ancient Israel, the church (identified in the King James translation as “assembly” or “congregation”) consisted of people with faith in the Messiah but one of the forms of apostasy that befell ancient Israel was the adoption of the doctrine that the organization of the church WAS the church. Farmers, fishermen and tradesmen were taught to accept the decisions and Bible interpretations of the “chief priests and rabbis” or the Sanhedrien as the voice of God to the people - which is why there was so little opposition to the decision to ask Pilate to crucify Jesus. After Jesus returned to heaven, a similar apostasy occurred again. Within a few centuries, the vast majority of people in western Europe thought of “the Church” (usually capitalized), not as the believers themselves but as an organization based in Rome. This time, the apostasy was even deeper because a much lower percentage of the people were literate. Hierarchy, creedalism and dogmatism can, of course, exist even within a local congregation. (There are ways to mitigate this tendency.) The word, “denomination”, means having a name - and there is nothing “wrong” with “associations” or “connections” or “conventions” of two or more local congregations. On the other hand, when the officers of such an association of local congregations begin to think of themselves as having more spiritual authority than the laity do, the tendency toward hierarchy, creedalism and dogmatism almost always follows. The Southern Baptist Convention has, so far, managed to avoid one of the mistakes that other associations have made. When the name of an organization includes the word “Church”, that tendency is almost always accelerated.

Does opposition to legalized abortion or same gender marriage constitute "social gospel?"

So is this another Baptist split? SBC split off from SABC

If not the SBC, then what? Another Convention? Independent?

Pastors you may be seated.

I went to Baptist Church as a young person. But I have no set church anymore. If you have Sunday Worship, celebrate Christmas or Easter, I'm not going to that church. If you teach Pre Tribulation rapture, nope. And I don't know enough about 7th Day Adventist. And latter day saints are Mormon if I'm correct, so nope. But as more are waking up, the knowledge is increasing, maybe I'll find my place in this little town.

Sorry, What is SBC? I'm from Brazil, and I don't know this institution

I don't believe the denominational model of the SBC is biblical at all. It just seems like the first recorded churches of the NT were too busy facing brutal and horrific persecution under Roman emperors, to congregate together and form an "umbrella association" of "likeminded churches." That probably was also the case for churches centuries later who were facing brutal and horrific persecution under Roman popes. The SBC was pro-choice in the 1970s. That's all you need to know in these recent decades, after other serious problems, to come out of the SBC this whorish religion, touch no unclean thing, and be ye separate.

Imagine your biggest problem with a man is that he lets his wife preach....

Why do protestant churches separate so much? 😆

Stud

Geez....i see religion here. Jesus said Repent be baptized and feeled with the Holy Spirit. Jesus said you must be born again to Enter the Kingdom of God.

Throwing the baby out with the bathwater? What about our missionaries?

Well, bye.

The Independent Baptist movement came to the same conclusion about the SBC 70 years ago. So is this the second coming of the Independent Baptist movement?

Let the SBC drown

Please know my dear Brother, Sister and dear neighbor and friend, I did not quote scripture, only referanced it so that those who are new in the faith can search the scripture on their own. We must all search and read the scripture for ourselves to know and speak the oricals of God. (1 Peter 4:11 KJV) Many will profess his name, but he will deny you, for we are workers of iniquity. (Matthew 7:23 KJV) The bible warns us, and tells us of these things. Be careful who you give your ears to in this hour people. (Mark 4:24 KJV) Why do so many get deceived about the church? We, our bodies are the temple and is what makes the church of God, not some building made by the hands of man. (1 Corinthians 6:19-20 / Acts 17:24 KJV) Why does a so called building known as a church have to be associated with a denomination/name when the church of God truly has no name? Why do we say let's go to church when our body is already the church? (1 Corinthians 6:19-20 / 2 Corinthians 5:1-10 KJV) Without the body, how can the Spirt dwell within us, unless we be dead and our Spirit be one with the Lord, Jesus Christ? Why do we believe not, that Jesus is God, but yet believe in the term trinity, when there is no such term in scripture as trinity? Why do we search for truth from man and his many pulpits, but yet God already left us the best platform man could ever have and that is his Word. Who is the Son of God, (JESUS), who was made flesh, and born of the Spirt, and in Christ body dwelt the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and (JESUS) who (IS GOD) and these three are one. (Colossians 2:9 / 1 John 5:7-9 KJV ) When we die, we will stand before Jesus Christ who is God, and was God in the flesh. (John 1:1 / John 1:14-23 KJV) Turn from man and all his carnality ways, and turn to the real knowledge of the truth, that being the Holy Scripture. (2 Timothy 3:7 KJV) Do not be deceived and read any other book, for the true authentic Word of God comes from the King James Version. All other translations are a perversion of God's true Word by adding, taking away and altering the very true Word of God. Such revised translations come from theologians and seminary schools that are indoctrinated by man's ideas and his own interpretation not that of the Lord Jesus Christ in Spirit and in Truth. (Matthew 24:4 / Ephesians 5:6 / 2 Theselonian 2:3-4 KJV) May the year 2022 be the beginning to where one finds the truth, and may it be a blessing onto you as long as you seek the truth, obey Jesus Word, recognizes sin, repent and stay from sin as scripture requires us to do. One who repents, but yet continues in sin, will lose his or her salvation. As Jesus Christ says, when one goes on sinning wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. (Hebrews 10:26-31 KJV) Come out of the world people as Jesus calls us to do, (John 15:19 / 2 Corinthians 6:17 1 Corinthians 5:10 KJV) and open your Bible for yourself. Experience the Gospel also known as the Good News (Proverbs 25:25 KJV) with an all Mighty, all living God (Genesis 17:1 / Revelation 11:7 / Hebrews 10:31 KJV) and come to the knowledge of the truth. Will you do that? I pray you do. God be with us. AMEN.

The rats are leaving the sinking ship.

I hope ALL of the calvinists would LEAVE the SBC. But they WON'T because they NEED the SBC to recruit and grow. No one is saved in calvinist churches as it is another gospel. The calvinist Presby churches have DIED and the only scraps they have left is to destroy the SBC.

believers need to get back to its Hebrew roots...

Too bad Jesus could not save the little children in Uvalde from being shot. He was too busy listening to the opening prayer at the NRA convention.