@@albundy8192 Yeah I remember that. It was swept under the rug and not made into a huge deal. But Donaldson says something NOT RACIST at all and all these little pansy cry babies coming out of the woodwork. SMH
Everyone who makes an issue out of stuff like this has obviously never played baseball. There’s a psychological tactical part to it where you will do anything to make the opposing team lose their concentration. It starts at a young age… the chubby kid gets cold fat, the kid with glasses four eyes. Remember there’s no crying in baseball.
Overall just an interesting situation escalated much more than it needed to be as there's a drive to left field by castellanos and that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.
I think "Jackie " became an issue when other players heard JD call TA Jackie and tried to be heroes, the "brawl" was started by the other dummies. This whole thing is is like a cheerleading squad beef
No it became an issue when LaRussa saw a way to fire up his team thats doing poorly, regardless of the harm it caused! Wasn't an issue at all before that ugh
Why is it accepted and basically expected for basketball, football and hockey players to trash talk and get under the competition's skin, but not baseball players? Anderson's self comparison to Jackie Robinson is an insult to Jackie-everybody knows that.
I'm a Yankees fan and when I heard they traded for Donaldson I thought, "Oh no. Not that guy. He's trouble." Well, here it is. EDIT: Have you noticed that they have lost their last three games? I'm sure it is just a coincidence.
@@tedunguent156 Donaldson is known for being the bad guy or playing the villain but can you agree that in this case he was not playing that role and he wasn't the aggressor? He was actually trying to defuse the situation, and give the guy credit he's a competitor, top tier competitor
@@AG-fv4yb Trouble follows the guy wherever he goes. None of his former teammates will stick up for him. Of course he is a terrific ballplayer. That won't get him off the hook and it shouldn't. He should start acting like a grownup.
If a current player called themselves “Babe Ruth” and opposing players teased that player calling them “Babe” in mockery, they wouldn’t be making fat jokes. Our society makes drastic decisions and stances without giving it clear, sober thought. Maybe Josh Donaldson is an asshole, but prove it with actual evidence, not contrived controversy. Too many people want social clout so they latch onto the current thing. This is the same poisoning that’s happening at large culturally manifesting itself in pro sports.
Exactly...So tired of all these whiny pansies...and just cause someone is a asshole to you, it does not mean they are racist. It means their an asshole. Get over your self.
My dude, you don't even wonder why Donaldson took unrelenting pleasure in pouncing on the opportunity to call out Tim Anderson for making a weird reference or comparison to an iconic black figure? He knew he could excuse it just like you are. It wasn't okay.
@@tectomes I think it’s a funny clown. The guy without a sense of humility compared himself to Jackie Robinson as though his accomplishments were comparable. Did Josh Donaldson mention either Tim Anderson’s race or Jackie Robinson’s? Player A compares themselves to a legendary player he is not, Player B clowns them. Player A gets butt hurt about it. That’s all we have here. You are applying intent to Donaldson’s actions, so what is the intent of the folks who injected race into the issue? If a person thinks all benign interactions between races have racist or racial undertones I question that person’s intent.
He was obviously trying to humble him a bit. Because who the hell compares themselves to Jackie Robinson!? I take more exception to THAT than anything Donaldson said. I'm not a Donaldson fan by any means, but it's glaringly obvious he was trying to embarrass him for making a ludicrous comparison of himself.
Whoa whoa...WHOA! Buddy, that kind of sound logic won't be tolerated 'round these parts. This here is a professional sport, and things like "Jackie" or "Poophead" aren't taken lightly....
Refreshing comment. I think the majority of people understand but Tim Anderson mumbled some sort of racial allegation afterwards and now everyone has to get behind it or they’re racist? Framing an incident between a white and black player as racism from the white player is the trend these days. We know this. It’s not surprising. More divisive tactics to sell sports media. Common sense has been ejected from the game. Jackie Robinson withstood true, hateful, and violent ignorance. Tim Anderson couldn’t lace up Jackie’s boots, yet no one calls him out for that abomination of a comparison.
I am not a fan of Josh Donaldson. However, I am not a fan of Tim Anderson. Anderson will NEVER be anywhere near the level of Jackie Robinson. From what I know of the situation, it does not appear racist.
@@memovasquez9907 I wouldn't want him. If he was really against cheating he would've been more vocal against David Ortiz when they were teammates. He was silent. He's a fraud
You don't believe there are actual racists worthy of that title in 2022? I think the players have a better understanding of Donaldson than us on the Internet.
@@sattm8230 of course there are racists out there and here's a shocker, not only white people can be racist. Have any of those players you mentioned said that Josh said racist stuff? No, just that they don't like him.
@@greenbluethings2839 I hope your right. But if thats the case Josh should put in a trade request asap. Cause thats straight up BS. He didnt Even call Tim a Racial slur. He called him fuckin "Jackie" who just so happens to be another black man. 😆 he was just busting his balls to get in his head. Is that not allowed anymore.
@@jasonctekien6288 lol how is this dude being soft? You literally make no sense, a dude being punished for something that was taken as a joke and that Tim Anderson actually laughed about it with Donaldson. Now all of a sudden he's offended by it? Is it funny or are you offended, Tim Anderson needs to make up his mind and stop being soft
@@Evan3431 Really now. We have Judge and Stanton, one rookie of the year, one former MVP, and we haven't won squat with those two muscle heads. And age wise, they're in their prime unlike Josh. Get a clue jeez.
how good is your life if the name "Jackie" offends you and hurts your soul?...... like at that point you're just finding words you either don't like or can't pronounce and calling it racist.
it's called trash talking. he compared himself to the great Jackie Robinson so when he makes a bad play you say "way to go jackie" that's not at all racist this shit is getting blown way out of proportion. old man tone deaf tony larussa started this nonsense
Bro that’s what I’m saying I could see people that don’t play sports will feel offended but ball players talk shit all day like what are we talking about
This is a non story for real, the dude called himself Jackie Robinson 😂..which instantly makes him the douche lol Donaldson is a great player, a hothead and menace, the type of player you don’t want to face so the pile on isn’t shocking
I agree, he called himself the modern day Jackie Robertson. Donaldson is a gamer. He is 36 and still playing at a high level. By calling him Jackie I feel wasn't racist
@@gmoney5300 I hate the Yankees, I just know dumb political bullshit when I see it. My point still stands, TA called himself Jackie on television..it’s been documented, dont see why another player calling him that is racist at all. JD was clearly clowning him for sure but whatever dude needs to be humbled.
Let's keep it real. MLB tries to draw connection between Tim Anderson and Jackie Robinson multiple times over the years. MLB network interviewed him nearly every year on Jackie Robinson day and asked him to talk about the significance of JR. Does it make MLB racist too? It is OK for MLB to use that connection to promote baseball in black community and suddenly it's racist for Donaldson to call TA Jackie. Especially TA also made that connection and done things like writing JR a letter and wearing cleats with no. 42 on it. Also TA was the poster boy of MLB's let the kids play campaign. TA was pimping HRs and jawing at oppositing pitchers. Now he finds JD being disrespectful? So he interpreted JD as disrespectful and it was ok for him showing up the opponents. It seems there is quite a bit of double standard. It's like MLB want to use him to steal fans from a certain demographic from football and basketball. So MLB tolerate TA's behavior and punish JD to make themselves look good. Just dirty man.
There’s a HUGE difference between being asked about a connection to Jackie because of the significance of being a black baseball star by the MLB and someone snidely saying “Wassup Jackie”. Don’t act like the context of the remark is meaningless.
Wow ball players all play pile on J Donaldson, what a surprise. So Donaldson get under peoples skin. Should we examine the day Anderson flipped of the spectators at that days ball game, or are we supposed to all be so ridiculously PC? Anderson is about as close to what J Robinson was as I am to being Elon Musk.
Wow, didnt expect the yankees and judge to throw donaldson under the bus so quickly. I'm not of colour but in my book this was an attempt to humble a guy that compares himself to one of the biggest names in baseball. Where i come from u gonna hear that stuff alot and u better not be sensetive about it.
Why should anybody care what Joe Kelly says? He’s literally known for throwing hard and hitting batters.. not being a good pitcher or respected ball player 😂
Joe Kelly can be pretty good at times, but he’s really inconsistent - partially because he gets injured all the time. But last year while he was healthy, he was clutch for the dodgers. 2.86 ERA and .997 WHIP.
So, the Joe Kelly who said, “Way to go, stud” to Aaron Hicks after picking him off at second is the same guy who criticizes Donaldson for having the gall to mock Anderson? BTW, if we’re having a popularity contest of MLB players, where do you think Joe Kelly would land?
one was deemed racist. People dont like racism.. Be racist with your friends, to your friends dont be racist to others who are not in your click. if you cant find the balance "donaldson probably " then just work on not being racist at all.. btw joe kelly is very popular 🤣
@@tmangoodguy9921 Never heard of Kelly, and I watch a lot of baseball. And Donaldson was calling Anderson out for being a cuck who had labeled himself the "new Jackie Robinson," incidentally showing more respect to Robinson than Anderson. Not a racist thing to mock someone's self-declaration of greatness.
@@tmangoodguy9921 Sad how far the woke generation will go to "find" racism. I don't care how many "deemed" it racism, if it isn't, it isn't; and it isn't.
Everyone coming out with their take on hating JD, without complete context. JD confronted Giolitto cuz he said publicly JD should say that to his face, just like the commenter said. Try to strike a balance. In no way was this a racist thing to say. Ballplayers say things, as far as insults Jackie Robinson truly went through hell, nothing like this.
Over reaction by Anderson (in context) , over reaction by MLB reactionaries.. Donaldson might be a jerk and may have slightly mocked Anderson (in context) but calling anyone in today's game by the name of an incredible man and athlete who is so well respected........dont make it more than it is.
I'm a person of color and despise Donaldson although I'm a die hard Yankee fan but in NO WAY was that comment racist. If anyone saw the game in question, Donaldson slid into 2nd base on a double play and was called out. On his way back to the dugout, Anderson made a comment to him which then warranted a reaction from Donaldson. I think that\s when Donaldson probably mocked Anderson who kinda called himself the new Jackie Robinson three years ago. As much of a trouble maker as Donaldson is, he did not start this and definitely did not warrant a suspension.
You are right. It's no big deal. Donaldson gave Anderson some razz. I used to get pissed off as a kid at the same thing. My Dad said don't get pissed off. He said I has ''rabbit ears'' which is exactly what Anderson has. Cry baby. And Tim Anderson is a pain in the ass. He's a professional at it.
Man, if Joe Kelly’s comments and the yanks response don’t piss you off, you’re not a Yankee fan. They look soft af over this. They won’t win anything with this culture/clubhouse.
Clubhouse culture is way overrated, The Yankees of the 70's pretty much hated Reggie Jackson, they still won. The A's of the early 70's also hated Jackson and they won. Teammates can not get along with each other and still win.
As a Yankees fan I was feeling great about this season after the start they got off to. Now after this whole situation and seeing how NOBODY (expect i think Nestor) had JD's back was sad to see. Judge only cares about looking good so he can get more value this offseason....As a team they should all be on JD's side and have his back and say it wasn't a racist comment. With this chemistry I don't see them winning the trophy. TBH Tim Anderson should never have called himself the new Jackie Robinson cuz he wouldn't even be able to clean this mans jock strap let alone be like him.
Im not surprised that the Yankees are not defending JD I mean the Yankees are a bunch of “white yes man pu**ies. Actually JD is bringing some fighting spirit until this incident. We need more players like JD especially the Yankees. Idc if JD is wrong or not defend your player. And also so what if you get called the n word lmao if you get butt hurt you’re already soft.
@@kennymcminn7966 I understand the team is like family, but wtf was Donaldson doing calling him that, I don’t hate Donaldson at all, honestly he is one of my favorite baseball players out there, but why was he calling Tim Jackie Robinson knowing the world we live in today? Man just flat out set himself up to be hated
@@BryanHalo123 Then it makes Tim using that icon far more disrespectful than JD's use of it. TA isn't in anywhere near the same pantheon as Jackie and has done nothing to warrant that comparison in terms of courage and heroism.
@@BryanHalo123 only comparison is them being black infielders Robinson changed the game and the country endured real hate and racism in the majors in my opinion TA is nothing close to Jackie Robinson and I can understand why JD said it sarcastically. If it was a black player that made the statement would it have mattered?
@@atreus4277 I do not agree with that at all. He always sided with the Black race and would have piled on JD big time. I remember his last years before he died. He behaved the way Jesse Jackson or any typical civil rights race baiter currently behaves.
If he played for any other team there would be no suspension. Blacks get a pass on everything these days...prime example is David Ortiz (aka Mr. Steroids).
@@stephen8623 spot on bro. I dont agree with racism of anykind but josh's remark wasnt racist at all...on the other hand Black ppl tend to get way with saying way more shit to whites or other ethnicities & it just gets tolerated. If equality is what society is aiming for then we shouldnt be coddling any ethnicity at this point. If Josh called him a actual racial slur then ofcourse punish him accordingly. But in this case its just plain BS
@@dl5014 What about all the times that TA called white pitchers and players on other teams the "N" word many times. He, and Blacks are allowed to use that word routinely, as jokes, it is cultural and no white man better ever use it. That is an obvious double standard. I wish that pitcher would have made a complaint to MLB about that double standard. Why is it okay for Black men to use that word all the time, what is up with that ?
@@jbjoeychic what you said doesnt really make sense..blacks can use the N word because they want to use it amongst themselves plain & simple. & alot of latinos they give a pass to which is BS. Its like if a Latino calls his friends a sp*c or a Italian calls his friend a g**nny or asian says ch*nk, its ok because its not offensive to one another. If TA calls other non black ppl n**ga its not offensive because they obviously arent black 😆 blacks call everybody that reguardless of race...and as far as Whites "better never say n**gga" it really depends I grew up in nyc & the whites that where really in the street with blacks & latinos said n**gga all the time (not in a racist way) & if anybody checked them for it they knew they would fight back over it...but yeah if your a suburban white boy you can't say that shit....it is a double standard in reality, but hey thats the world we live in right?...they can call a white dude Cracker & not get any punishment for it. SMH....the MLB is gonna be on the liberal Democrat media's side. So the argument you mentioned wont hold any weight unfortunately.
as a minority, there was nothing Donaldson said that I feel was racist. Anderson called himself the new Jackie Robinson, Donaldson repeated it. It's not like he called him Kunta for shits sake. Donaldson getting heat from other players because they don't like him, period. They know it wasn't racist. They are just trying to tarnish him because they dislike him.
Well wth is MLB gonna do when he goes to a visiting teams stadium and the whole crowd starts chanting jackie just to get under his skin are they gonna eject the whole stadium from the game? Darryl Strawberry used to get his name called on him all the time and never cried about it
If Anderson " feels like today's Jacke Robinson," why shouldn't Donaldson call him that? Nothing wrong with pointing out that idiotic statement. Robinson got death threats and threats of violence against him and his family just for playing MLB. Tim Anderson is NOT today's Jackie Robinson
What Josh did wasn't necessary. Donaldson didn't do it for any high ideals either. At least you understand how great Jackie Robinson was, so can't disagree with your last sentence.
@@BryanHalo123 You aren't wrong, but remember that Tim Anderson is a guy who talks inordinate amounts of trash himself and part of his game is trying to get under people's skin and not caring about the unwritten rules of baseball or offending opponents. I respect that, so don't be a soft bitch when someone does it to you.
I've been hating on Josh Donaldson since before it was cool. However, player "beefs" are fucking lame and Tim Anderson has slightly better glove skills than my grandmother and in no way has any business comparing himself to Jackie Robinson.
I don't care for JD but I'm behind him on this. Yankees suck... Now I was always taught to stand by my teammates, right or wrong. If they were wrong, you take care of it behind closed doors. If I were JD , I think I'd have a season ending injury. Again, Yankees suck.
And yet in the game where all of this happened......Donaldson had called Anderson "Jackie" throughout the game. Anderson never said a word. Finally his teammates got damn tired of it and that was when the trouble started
I'm a White Sox fan myself and I gotta say, if you're in this game, no kind of smack talk should be getting under your skin. I think guys are just too sensitive nowadays, especially if they have colored skin. However, it's well known around the league that JD is in general an asshole, but so what? It's baseball..
Yeah I just don’t understand why black players take offense to racist comments in 2022. White people like josh Donaldson are so oppressed. That’s how people who defend J.D. sound. How could T.A. have ever known J.D. was referencing that article in the moment, plus he doesn’t really think he’s Jackie Robinson and even says in the article Jackie went through way worse. this is like when a cop kills a black guy and it comes out later he had some small illegal history and people say he deserved it. Omg you said “especially if they have colored skin” what a loser
Being labeled a racist is like being called a child molester these days. Getting accused of it can ruin you and nobody will defend you because it will then bring negative attention on *them.*
Comparing yourself to an absolute legend having never achieved anything that legend did in the era he did it is far more disrespectful. I hope entire stadiums start chanting "Jackie" at Anderson.....
The only person who thinks that Donaldson is not a total jerk is Donaldson himself. When a person has one incident, we for the most part give the person the benefit of the doubt. When a person has had as many incidents as Donaldson has had including with his own teammates it just becomes impossible to continue giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Conveniently left out the part where Giolitto said Donaldson should say it to his face. You say that to a guy then you should expect him to show up persinally to confront you
@@iTalkStudios You don't have to take sides to present full context and let others decide for themselves. But omitting the context of why JD showed up to talk to his face makes it seem more like a guy confronting someone who told him to, and not a crazed person just randomly confronting an opponent in the parking lot.
Timmy felt "disrespected" after that scuffle push tag at 3rd base last week, you know beta male energy. So now he has to pull the race card and bring all that to MLB.
Tim Anderson is not above trash talk or being mocked simply because he is black. Whenever you compare yourself to a great in any industry the people of that industry are going to make fun of you and say you're not that person that happens across the board from Athletics to anything else. And that doesn't mean it's racist. MLB suspending Josh Donaldson isn't going to help race relations between black and white ball players is going to hurt it this isn't going to lead to them interacting more this is going to lead to them interacting less. And in every instance of people talking negatively of Josh Donaldson they never once said he's racist so we don't have to interject racism right here when there is no evidence of it whatsoever
“Joe Kelly doesn’t like JD Liam Hendricks doesn’t like JD and Tim Anderson doesn’t like JD. Basically the whole white Sox team doesn’t like JD”. Lmao😂😂
Calling someone a racist who WASN'T being racist isn't breaking the color barrier; if anything, it's the opposite. He literally pulled the race card simply to get the upper hand on someone he doesn't like. MLB trying to save face and "be proactive" instead of analyzing the situation is also part of the problem. It's like the boy who cried wolf, except the boy still wins. This situation is just ruining the fun, the EXCACT opposite thing this dude claims to be bringing to baseball.
This just shows how incredibly kucked sports have become. And just how fast people i.e. "Tony Larussa" will boot lick just to virtue signal. This is a sad State of affairs.
@@AustinMcAndrew It's not just him though. It's the whole culture of sports being tricked out for egalitarianism and virtue signaling. That's the real problem here.
That’s USA for you. You can cheat, you can slap a face, you can turd on someone’s bed, but if you say something remotely controversial - you get cancelled. 🤔 Kobe wasn’t calling out a player, he was calling out a country - “Soft”
Sooo...a legit question. Forgetting all of the past Donaldson history for a moment. If Aaron Judge refers to himself as the "new Babe Ruth" or the "modern day Babe Ruth" and somewhere down the road, Anderson wants to bust his chops for it...maybe get under his skin a bit, by calling him "Babe" does that make that Anderson a racist? Listen...Donaldson is an ass. I just don't see how this becomes a racist issue. Everyone needs to lighten up a bit.
I'm a Jay's fan so I've always liked JD as a player. That being said, he's a troll if nothing else and seems like he's not very well liked by his team or the league. I feel like he doesn't lose much sleep over it though.
Exactly. We all know the type. If Josh Donaldson was a racist he would know not to even be seen arguing with a black man. Josh didn't view him as a black man, any more than he thought about how white Gerrit Cole is. But in today's world race racism sells. Its what people care about especially liberal voters who make up half of usa. So a white man should not be arguing in public with black man. Its the way the world works.
He does seem like a bit of a jerk, but honestly his explanation seems valid in my opinion. Tim comparing himself to Jackie Robinson was just plain dumb I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t been called “Jackie” by other players before now.
The premise of this posting is already biased. "Let me know what you think of Josh Donaldson" (and it's contextual content). It doesn't ask for opinions of either ball player's behavior. Both players have had bad press about them, as does Joe Kelly as does Tony LaRussa for that matter. Lots of stones and glass houses here. Lots fanfare for character demolition. The incident is too rich with opportunity for people to judge, be biased and project their own stuff.
So Anderson acts like a punk and a clown, calls out other players and has absolutely no class like Jackie Robertson but gets no punishment and gets to call other players racist
Lets just say that anything regarding race coming from the mouth of Tony LaRussa should be questioned. He could be right about the Jackie comment, but consdering his past words and actions...yeah....
Tim Anderson is not some kind of a modest guy by relating himself to Jackie Robinson, doing bat flips and telling the Yankees Stadium crowd to "shut the fk up", etc. He frankly brought Donaldson's matter onto himself. I am not hearing this said here and elsewhere. Donaldson is a stupid idiot, but not a racist, for calling him "Jackie". AND NO, IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE WHITE SOX THINK OF HIM. That is simply stupid to include here. Absolutely, meaningless! Baseball is not a popularity contest.
Donaldson is a warrior of a competitor. Hard to argue with an MVP. The virtue signaling and calling him a racist is just woke and pathetic garbage. He may not even be a "nice guy" all the time. But gtfo with the racist BS.
At this point, it’s more about disliking Donaldson as a person. He might be an ass but definitely not racist for calling him Jackie. If someone calls himself Babe Ruth, he deserves to be make fun of for disrespecting Babe.
Also I guarantee you everybody would've thrown Donaldson under the bus !!! Yes Donaldson can be a pest, but if he's on your team he'll defend you and back you up no matter what . This particular case it's total overreaction by Tim Anderson. Something tells me Anderson just got annoyed which I can see as a reason, but not the racist tag that it was attached to it .
Anderson is being ridiculous, enough is enough. Grow up, our society is becoming so soft and we are offended by everything. It is beyond ridiculous, when you live in the 2020s and you compare yourself to Jackie Robinson, you deserve to be laughed at because you are a joke
I think Tim Anderson comparing himself to the legend that is Jackie Robinson is disrespectful. TA couldn't carry Jackie's jock strap. I'm a Giants fan and hate the Dodgers....but not Jackie Robinson. Jackie had balls the size of churchbells.
Jackie Robinson knew how and when to take the ugly words and actions from other people--at the orders of Dodger general manager Branch Rickey. When allowed to later, however, he could show a jerky side. But it was his ability to take those nasty words and actions that made him the outstanding model of a real man. He was not God by a long shot, but he was indeed a textbook story of strength.
Bottom line. There’s a marked difference between being a douchebag and being a racist. Donaldson is the former. All racists are douchebags but all douchebags are NOT necessarily racists.
Tim is the one who said I'm the new Jacky and donaldson just called tim what he called himself, that's what's wrong with people in the world people are just to soft, and other thing I'm pretty sure that if quote quote tim said something racist to donaldson nothing would happen bc tim is black and donaldson is white. But whatever ig.
As a Yankee fan, my thoughts on Josh Donaldson are as follows....he is a solid third baseman with some pop in his bat and he doesn't seem to take any shit. Doesn't sound like a bad guy to have on your team. No matter who you play for, there are going to be guys with no vocal filter. It's 25 different personalities trying to make it through 162 games together and execute their jobs to be the absolute best. Who cares what his personal life is like or who he offends. If he is performing to the best of his ability when he takes the field is all I care about. Also I'd like to add, I highly doubt he's racist.
Anderson can’t even compare to Jackie Robinson. He’s one of the all time greats; Just look at the numbers. Even though JD didn’t mean it as portrayed by the media; he should’ve known this was going to happen. I’m glad he didn’t try to lie and owned up to what he said.
