Josh Pate On Deion Sanders & Colorado - What's The Strategy? (Late Kick Cut) 

You gotta have depth, just because a guy isn't a starter doesn't mean they're not vital to the team's success. The reason why UGA, Ohio St, Bama, etc. compete at a high level is because they have so much depth. When Deion said he wasnt interested in high school recruiting I knew he didn't know what he was doing.

“StOp ThE HatE” famous last words from the Deion Dingleberries

There is no team that has fans divided and ready to talk more than CU right now. Once again in the off-season they’re the biggest story.

Josh, let's explore your core belief: How do you intend to uphold team depth without overspending? As top-tier backup players depart for better opportunities without significant incentives, they're likely to explore other options. At a recent football camp, a prominent recruiter advised high school players aiming for the NFL to choose schools where they can make an immediate impact. If that doesn't materialize in the first year, the advice is to move on. However, if a substantial offer is on the table, sticking around for two years is advised, but leaving by the third. These players are the future, so your convictions will be tested this year and the next. Colorado maintains a strong core from last year, leading to confusion about your position. Dismissing this as a matter of principle disregards the swift changes in college football. Those like you, rooted in traditional perspectives, may need to adapt or risk being sidelined. College football is evolving rapidly, and it will never be the same.

In the current state of transfer portal chaos, you are ABSOLUTELY out of your mind to believe a new program can afford to BUILD a team from incoming freshman and compete today. CU wasn’t afforded the old fashioned way of building a team. Times have changed, get over it. The state of football has NEVER been THIS current state of hall ass when you want to. I can’t predict how soon they will win, but doing it your way would take 5-7 years. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

The big 12 is so balance it’s like 4 teams with a chance and Josh is smart not predicting early

As a canes fan i wish the best for Colorado

I'm seeing a 5-7 season coming up with no bowl again

Deion is Bulls-era Tom Thibodeau. He runs his first team into the ground and he doesn’t seem to care about depth, which is what it takes to compete.

Sanders was out coached in a number of games last season. There is no way this team wins 6 games this year!

Lane Kiffin is portaling his way to a playoff spot

I love coach prime but this model doesnt look sustainable, you have got to have a solid foundation, culture and depth

No one is giving Coach Prime 3 or 4 years to start winning. I know it seems like a philosophy but it is really a necessity to use the portal. How else was CU going to improve the O Line and D Line? Coach Prime speaks directly and with confidence bc honestly that's the only path available. So what's the use in crying about it when it is the most direct path to winning.

I’m torn on this subject bc the way Deion recruits yes it can be a quick fix but you need those HS recruits to buy in to the program when you got guys coming from everywhere some are there to play and commit some for social media exposure I think they need to hit the 25 class hard as they can although I don’t agree with the social media strategy it’ll be the only way

Buffs have gotten better with every portal. Seems to go to reason they will get better with this Spring portal. Buffs lost 6 games by a score or less last season and won 4 games in a pretty solid PaC12. Seems to go to reason that Buffs will win more games this season if they get better after two more portals. They need to recruit Prep, but suspect when Deion turns on that spigot… he’ll succeed.

What did any players last yr do on they new teams?

Josh, is your view of the Big 12 based on any facts? Below are the conferences ranked by number of transfers brought in so far for next season: Big 12: 198 SEC: 196 ACC: 171 Big 10: 158 In this case, wouldn’t the Big 12 be the LEAST traditional since they’re so heavy on the portal??

The naysayers will say you’re wrong but I agree with you. There will some team that eventually go deep into the playoffs and maybe win a natty that relied heavily on portal. But one word you mentioned “consistently” will prove the portal to be a quick fix only.

Keeping kids for 3 and 4 years in the age of nil is easier said than done

CP is attempting to change status quo. We shall see if it works or not

I believe that as well gotta have a foundation first I totally agree

If you think that Coach Prime know EXACTLY what he's doing. Josh you MISSEDTHEBOAT Bruh.

There was not a LOT of people who said they could win the Pac 12. There were a lot of people who focused on a handful of people who thought they could win the Pac 12. Nameless people on social media.

His philosophy for building a program probably is actually built around recruiting; he just might not have much interest in building Colorado up long term

The 3 and 4 year model of development is gone now. These kids are leaving now. Deions model is TBD because we don’t have enough data to support your opinion as fact.

I agree with Josh but if Colorado wins 8 to 10 games next year and Travis and Sheduer go early first round Colorado recruiting will go crazy. The biggest mistake the ncaa can make is to let Deion Sanders get proof of concept even last year if they just knew how to finish games they could have won 8+ games. In sports there is always something that comes along that can change the sport forever and all thats needed is proof of concept and then the huge explosion happens.

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Yeah, Demouey Kennedy is seeing the grass isn't always greener, lol. In the portal, yet again

Deion is building a team and repacing talent. He brings them in see what they have then either keeps them of lets them go. He’s building: he’s team is night and day from his very first roster. I know exactly what he’s doing. It’s season by season. He won’t keep paying you if you arnt it. He will replace you.

Can coaches, athletes, and athlete's parents publicly airing out the dirty laundry work? No sir. That culture is a double edged sword. You never have to guess, but some things the public just doesn't need to know.

So much for developing young men in the name of the Lord.

Stop the craziness! It’s 130 other schools who have guys jumping in the TP

Georgia has 23 guys in the portal, guys that know they ain't playing leave. Colorado does need to up its high school recruiting tho

Can we stop acting like he's been there for 5 years. He's only had 1 season and the number of players that transferred out this year is significantly less then the number from last year. Tells me a bunch of players stayed and last i checked you have to have players stay to build a program. Soo what is the discussion about? Loyalty and culture. You build that by winning and this season hasn't been played. No body knows if what he's doing will or won't work...all this "back in my day" talk just sounds good for the talk shows.

Coach Prime has only had one year to recruit high school players at Colorado. He has had some success recruiting 5 and 4 star guys and some solid 3 stars but he needs more. Give him some time. If Colorado can play entertaining football and win a few notable games, more HS players will be drawn to Boulder, certainly one of the most picturesque places to play football in the country.

I disagree with you opinion on the portal. The portal has not been around long enough to say you can't build a Winning team. Let's give it another 5 to 8 years...

Probably going to struggle 2nd half of the season. This opinion is without looking at their schedule. Colorado will have a decent team, lots of flash and playmakers but theyre thin at many positions. Once injuries start, season will get tougher.

I really hope you are wrong. If anyone can prove you and all the rest wrong it's Deion. And I would be disappointed if Deion was talking about just making a bowl game.

Big 12 u can lose every game or win every game by a touchdown. Btw, Let's goo Wvu. Neal Brown has culture back in Morgantown, finally.

The Portal hasn't been around long enough to be so dogmatic about what you can't do with it. This is nothing more than a purest mentality that can't see beyond yesterday. "You can't do this. You must do that." Imagine the world today if the Wright Brothers had that mentality. Let's give the portal a larger sample size of time, before we say what can and cannot be.

Got to have depth and you need to be able to develop players. They will be middle of the pack BIG 12. Go Utes!

Are you guys ok 😂. This dude is off his rocker.

They will be fine. Everybody's losing players to the portal everyday. No panic buttons are being pushed for those programs. And most of those players that hit the gulag are just going to sit there.

Trust the process Let's go

COLORADO HAS PUT TOGETHER A MACHINE 💯 COLORADO WILL BE JUST FINE 💯

I dont dislike Deion, i just think Colorado is a really dificult place to recruit. Its beautiful there in the summer but it is in the middle of nowhere.

The way he recruits is getting kids starstruck, and once that wears off they realize he can't coach and then transfer first chance they get!

Josh if that style is how you win why it wasn't working for Colorado for the last decade? This is a new day in football they're not waiting on you to win 4 and 5 years from now they want to win now.

These show’s Can’t go a month without talking about Colorado and Deon .Clicks click’s clicks

Don't Houston have 26 players in the portal? But all I see is praises about how the HC is trying to change the culture and how it will take time but it's gonna come together. He is per say "weeding" out the players that don't value academics over football. Yet, it's very little conversation on their mass exodus . I wonder what the difference is between him & Prime kinda, make u you go HMMMMM!!!

Football can't get here fast enough 😂

He’s not losing main players, he’s just losing some back ups

😂😂this is 😂😂😂genius all wise all knowing thank you for showing Colorado the way we are forever in your debt

Just stick around wait and see what coach prime, and the Colorado football team do for this season. He gonna make you eat your words he will make the playoff with his team and then you going to move the gold pole and that’s when you going to say he cannot win a championship using the Porter

This is a long over drawn apples to oranges convo. Colorado was at the bottom from a talent perspective. YOU CANT OVERHAUL A ROSTER FROM THE BOTTOM WITH FRESHMEN. You talking heads talk just to talk. You have to replace upper class men with grown men not 18 year olds sir, and 18 year olds don’t wanna come to your school unless you are WINNING. The next phase with a foundation you will see more high schoolers. At this point he’s looking at quality from highschool and using scholarships for grown men with achievement and experience. Talking just for clicks

The portal strategy *WILL NOT WORK* At some point they will have serious roster number issues. Charile Weis tried that at Kansas (2.5 years after KU was 12-1 and orange bowl winners) when he turned over the roster and went heavy with "Experienced" JUCO, 5th year sr players and Transfers. TOTAL DISASTER. It backloaded the roster and after 3 years it was totally depleted. Took KU 7 years to get their roster back to 80 scholarship players. Sanders sold out for a couple years of sold out spring games and hype but ultimately in 3 years CU is going to be *EVEN WORSE* than when he got there.

@josh you really pissed off USC fans. That said, I hope we are a top 40 defense.....

It's always my beliefs and what they think. Like the Rock would say, nobody cares what you think. This model hasn't been proven, because it hasn't been done before. Just like NIL, people like this guy are scared of change.

Dude, what do you have to say about Houston? Hell, there are 2,000 kids in the portal. All programs have lost players. This is clickbait.

With that that is not UNDERSTOOD You CRITICISE Nice plan?

Prime is leaving CU after this year for a sec team closer to home with deep NIL pockets watch

BREAKING: Colorado EDGE Eric Brantley Jr. is expected to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal

@cormanimcclain2 So let me get this straight you flip from Miami and sign with Colorado. Under Coach Prime he asks simple tasks of you like (study film, go to class, become a man) you fail at all of those. Then you hit the transfer portal and basically take subliminal shots at him then expect your NFL draft stock to rise after this? 😂 You must not know Coach Prime has life long connects in the Hall of Fame and NFL

Houston has 26 kids in the transfer portal (crickets)

When all of Deion boys are gone then they will be able to built a roster.

Primes gonna make Josh eats these words come bowl season!

Its like the nfl , rarely does the team that wins free agency win a championship

Quite the perspective. Especially coming from people completely void of culture and how to build one. I’m itching to know how YOU would establish a working culture in your first few years let alone a winning one. But save it I’ll answer for you. Firstly, you have to establish a standard. How can you build rapport with high schools unproven? The standard of excellence has to be at the forefront of ANY culture and that didn’t exist prior. Next you need competition. You can have all the 5 freshman you want but it means nothing if the locker room is weak. You won’t hit the field and win and you won’t develop them in time to produce meaningful results. And lastly you need an image. How on earth do you convince a kid with limitless possibilities and potential to arrive at fricken boulder… they took 80 new players hit the field and won. Thats development. New coaches everyday, each with more relatability and higher standards. This bar and image that’s set is what will make a kid go to a team. Knowing that they can fight for a spot in a vicious culture for a chance to shine and reach the next level. Yes, as adults we want reasonable and logical. No, kids don’t want that shit. And kids weren’t going to no damn Colorado. His usage of the portal is correct in establishing the bar he’s trying to set. He will grab those diamonds in the rough. He will polish them. And prove that his establishment is capable of getting you to the NFL. It takes 1. Win or lose they will come after that.

I feel CU goes 5-6 wins.....

With the portal being so new you have no fact based opinion to say what you can’t do with portal players your just making assumptions based on your knowledge of the old college football way

Who cares what Deion strategy is when last time Kansas state won national championship or competed for one or Utah or Kansas or Texas tech and so on . They been doing it your way JOSH for past 25 years and what they have to show for it nothing. So I wish you guys would stop thinking your way is the only way..

Nobody wants to talk about other teams who are losing 4 and 5 star players FROM THE SAME TEAM! How man players did Bama lose? I'm seeing teams losing 30 players, and people are focused on Colorado! You have a team in year two that's still building and trying to compare it to coaches who were handed everything... they just gave to keep winning to keep their jobs! If he was at Bama, you'd people would find a reason to make it all about him!

Y’all talking like y’all know or understand the plan. Who said he was doing this for longevity? Who said he was doing this as a permanent solution? For such limited information y’all surely do know how to run with your own head canon. @patestate you yourself said that when colleges pay a huge pile of money that they’d expect to start winning right away. How dare you demonize his portal usage as if you forgot the situation he’s in as a whole. Hypocrisy. I want to hear your approach. You got 1 year. 87 new player, some injuries, completely new staff, and a Colorado level program… by the second year give me your plan to be a bowl team….. explain your usage of freshman from the high school ranks. Explain your resources going to raw talent and not wisdom from the portal. Now go win. Explain it to me

Deion said the same thing last season when guys were leaving... You see how that went 😂

Why is everyone so concerned about Prime and Colorado? Bunch of clowns with malice in your hearts!

Colorado will Win 3-5 games in 2024.

He is in the portal. Because he can't convince top high school recruits, their coaches, and parents. To buy into the coaching we watched out of Colorado last year.

Bruh Cut it out This had to happen Read the book the strategy is sound We know our people You can't criticize what you have never seen before No one has built like this He is changing the game He didn't have time to build the program the conventional way He caused nil to come into existence Because if you aren't offering us the bag 💰 why would we go to your school to make you money The balance of power was shifting so they through the bag 💰 at it The where always payjng others sports Colorado doesn't have the funds for the bag 💰 So Deon brought the culture and it happened this culture is mixed It's not just blacks it's everybody We are one These guys don't understand depth and unfortunately he doesn't have time to explain this He is doing a terrific job recruiting He needs to introduce them to things outside the culture to make them good men and solide citizens When will we know if he got it right Offensive coordinator Defensive coordinator Game day management Until then this is unprecedented So how can you grade it How long would it take to build a roster and create depth in the nil era Why do you think Nick Saban quit Smart 🦉🤓

So...CU will be 4-8 again

the strategy is to prop up his sons as much as he can then leave as soon as they are in the nfl

Colorado is a bad program with or without Deon

They have no offense and defensive line. They will be 3-9..

No

That's not true. He lost potential 2 or 3 good players.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE U....

Yall have zero logic. High school recruiting is null and void with the transfer portal. You all are just talking emotionally. Why not get a portal transfer player with three years or two years left. There is less of a learning curve than a high school student. Unequivocally you can build a team in the portal. It’s the same thing minus a year

Bruh nobody talking bout the transfers he getting tho he getting sophomores and juniors n have 11 high school recruits in April y’all jus wanna hate CU not the only school doing this jus say you don’t like Deion we will be a bowl team this year

They're not even talking about playoffs. All I hear from Colorado is which NFL teams Coach Sanders is going to let draft his kids.

Stop the hate

Gotta 'cruit and Deion is no a fan of that.

Deion is all about himself . He overshadows any players that’s why he’ll never succeed as a coach. He just wants some fame before he burns out. He’s irrelevant and he doesn’t know it yet .

Deion is gonna leave when his sons leave. Thats the real reason he isn’t recruiting a future base of HS prospects. When Deion & his sons leave, all those transfers are gonna leave. Colorado is gonna get left high and dry with no roster and no relationships with HS players or coaches. It’s a Pump & Dump. Thats the ugly truth of what’s going on here.

Deion is leaving after his sons move on to the NFL

EVERYONE knows Deion is leaving Colorado when his sons do. That's why he refuses to recruit. If you were planning to stay, why would you set your team up for failure every year? Colorado doesn't care about winning, its about generating money for his sons.

Deion was never going to be a long term solution for Colorado. He's just a brief flash.

Please stick to YouTubing, if you know as much as you claim, go be a coach…

They are also losing highschool talent lol

Colorado better run the ball and stop putting everything on Shedeur. Pat Shurmur sucks as a offensive coordinator.

It's all BS, you and others are implying. Poor coaching was the problem last season, costing them at least four games, so there is not enough empirical data to say this experiment has failed.

Not serious football program. It’s a joke.