Josh Pate's ACC Program Power Rankings (Late Kick Cut) 

Pray that someone loves you the way Josh loves Mario and The U 😍

rank the 2 pac 12 teams next?

Thank you for recognizing my Pack. I think a reasonable position at #3.

I can accept Georgia Tech as a tier 4 program given how bad things got during the Geoff Collins error (who I remember Pate being a big fan of when he first got hired) and that the jury is still a bit out on Key after a just decent first season but don't see how Syracuse rates above the Jackets unless you are only looking at the last 4 years. But acknowledging that Tech could easily jump to be behind only FSU and Clemson very quickly is fair.

GT finished 4th in the ACC last year. Won’t be surprised if they ruin several teams’ seasons.

This time next year Georgia tech will be top 5 in your rankings.

To give them Credit, Boston College did beat SMU in a bowl game recently

No arguments with the order this is spot on. Only difference between how I had them ranked and yours was I didn't have a tier 2 and all schools were 1 tier lower for mine.

If the criteria is the past three seasons Pitt needs to be higher. Josh’s exact words were “these aren’t projections” and Pitt achieved more in the past three years than half the teams ahead of them. I’m blaming producer Jessie on this one

Was expecting more GT disrespect from geoff Collin’s best buddy. #13 is just disrespectful. Dude never paid attention to tech football and just placed them somewhere.

Mr pate love to hear more about Miami

Thank you brother! Louisville will see you back in the ACC championship game!

Way too much credit to UNC, only Miami has underachieved on greater level. Not nearly enough love for VT or GT.

How can you effectively rank portal classes unless you also account for the losses to the roster?

GO CANES 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

“I look at the last 3 years” Dismisses FSU 3 years ago

As a Tar Heels fan, I can't even be mad. So much wasted potential.

Two things, GT is gonna jump a few coming up, however we do have the 6th ranked schedule in the country so it comes with some speed bumps. Also why is SMU so high? I am not a hater but I feel like they still have so much to prove and that BC bowl lose does not help.

Big 12 next!

If you have a full high school recruiting class and don't lose players early due to graduation, transfer, draft or other attrition, how do you make room for portal players without taking existing scholarship players off of scholarship?

I'm terrified for the big 12 ranking cause I know my team is going to be in last

Fair on Miami, like usual. Good stuff 👍

0:16 what happens when Florida State goes to the BIG 10?

Clemson 2 is crazy

A part of me as a FSU fan and alumni, it makes me proud to say that we have retaken the ACC. It’s been a long time coming, but the other part of me, can’t wait until we exit the ACC.

unc gotta be ahead of louisville I think

Goooo NOLES!

Damn, go Cal though.

Elliott is building something special at UVA, but it will take time. There have been legit signs of progress but UVA is a very tough place to win with the academic requirements and whatnot. The tragedy completely resets his clock and the way the last year should be viewed IMO. Not gonna argue with the ranking, 17 is definitely correct for right now but to say there’s not even a pulse shows no one on your staff has payed a lick of attention to anything going on with this program. Not that I’d expect anything different with the absurd bias that this show exhibits regularly

Josh is a company man! He gonna speak that company narrative.

And North Carolina is 100% a basketball school. When your visitors almost outnumber your home crowd…you are a basketball school. I have no idea why outsiders would think UNC is anything good in football.

FSU, Clemson, NCSU, Louisville, VT & Miami

🦃 Gobblers VT, baby.

Louisville went to the ACC championship with the worst QB in college football beating NCST & Miami at home but you found a way to minimize it...Good job..🤔

Louisville should be #3

Oofff… G5 SMU is in the upper tier of the ACC. That conference it is just a two (FSU/CLEM), maybe three (+MIA) team conference. It looks might weak, a distant fourth after the B12.

I’m sorry Josh but fsu is not above Clemson. They had one good year full of mercenaries that barely escaped a down Clemson team in OT. One okay year does not a good program make

I’d love it if you’d include things like revenue, reputation, attendance, ratings, etc. Would add to subjectivity and thus debate.

There is a difference between “Choosing not to use the Portal” and not landing guys in the portal (referring to the comment on Clemson). Clemson offered 3-5 Offensive Linemen before Early Signing Day (well documented) but none of them committed to the Tigers. I think there is very good reasons for this. 1. Dabo has built a culture at Clemson where every player has to earn his spot on the depth chart. This is going to be a turn-off for any portal player looking to improve their spot on the depth chart where they have been. 2. Clemson is currently limited with NIL by state laws. In the past 2-weeks Dabo, along with other coaches from Clemson, U of S Car., and Coastal Carolina Univ. appeared before the SC State Legislature appealing for changes to current laws in the state of South Carolina that greatly restrict NIL to the point that these universities are unable to provide competitive NIL offers with programs like UGA, FSU, Bama, OSU, Michigan, and USC.

Go Deacs!!!

Syracuse will have a better record than 80% of conference 🍊

Talks about last 3 years and adds FSU record for last 2. That’s okay, we’re used to being disrespected at Clemson. F s u got lucky last year and all the planets aligned. They’re just happy they played Louisville instead of Clemson in ACC Championship or they would’ve had 2 losses.

Based on history this accurate. I don’t believe FSU roster was/is built for sustain success which is why you get a bowl like that when 8-9 players sit out. Clemson talent is not where it was, I believe Louisville and Miami will become the leader of the ACC. #63-3

UNC has not won a conference championship in football since 1980. The only ACC program with a longer drought is NC State. You have overrated both the Wolfpack and Heels until they actually seal the deal.

Miami isnt 4

Wake Forest’s decline can be explained by the graduation of those 7th and 8th seniors finally leaving the program… 😂

All about The U

Miami at 4 is comedic

Boston College does not deserve to be ranked 16th. They are a 10-12 spot especially with their new coaching hire.

FSU will have 4 losses this year (SMU, Clem, UM, ND) and come back down to earth. Wouldn't surprise me if GT, SMU and/or UNC beat them too.

do they even have tier 1 programs?

NC State over Louisville is comical, basically saying you don’t know anything about ACC football without saying

Miami will disappoint again 2024.

Louisville has a better program than NC state and they have won the past 2 years…

Louisville has a better program then nc state and Miami , said what I said

Miami is such a bottom of the barrel program overall. Their fans, team support, stadium, on field coaching, etc.. haven’t done anything relevant in 20+ yrs. And their fans are always the most annoying with nothing to back it up 🤣

Josh PLEASE ! It's just a matter of which of these bums are going to get beat 63-3 in round 1 or 2 at best.👎

All Cupcake Conference rankings would rank far lower in the Big 10 or SEC.