New York Times reporter Stuart A. Thompson discusses what he learned after watching 50 hours of Russian state television about the invasion of Ukraine. #CNN #News
Putin is a modern Nazifascist, the biggest lie is that this war serves the defense of territory. Everyone knows that Russia is the second nuclear power in the world, so it would never be invaded, neither by NATO nor by anyone else. This war has as a priority the internal image of Putin, which is not only more worn down by repression of the free press. But the shot backfired.
@@standZ4 bias is not same as fake news. Also the US viewers have access to news bias in both side (e.g. nbc and fox), it’s up to the viewers to choose their bias, not by the government.
@@Mel-nc1qq Russian media is banned in the West and has been from the 27th of February 2022 unless you use a VPN you can see it, fake news CNN blames Russia and trump for everything please explain what fake news is if that ain't fake they have even been found out lying on Russian conspiracy's yet quick enough to call anyone else a conspiracy theorist when it's Biden who's son is working with those they blame trump working with and it's a hundred times more than fox do it. I'm from the UK the whole world see it except America
@Ukraine is Russia Yes, and now Russia is shitting on that once admired heritage - it's gone, no one admires Russia any more. 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
It tells us what they fear. It gives us a heirarchy. 1. Fear of other humans. 2. Fear of nature, chance, unknown. When we lie, we replace the truth in our narrative with some still believable but less threatening fantasy. Being harmed by , intelligent, vengeful Ukrainians is less acceptable than being harmed by an impersonal, indifferent reality.
Puppet Joe's regime didn't even admit incompetence after leisurely drone striked Afghan relieved workers killing 10 including 8 children, nor in its disasterous withdrawal from Aghanistan leaving behind Americans and $7 billions of brand new weapons for the Taliban.
I mean, I read that Poland wants to bring troops into Ukraine. What will happen when Russia attacks polish forces in Ukraine, won't that start a war vs NATO?
I worked in Faslane (Scottish Sub base) during the Kursk incident I remember, I think it was the first anniversary of the accident, maybe 2nd, that Russian families were given a tour of the usually restricted base, our Vanguard class subs, etc One moment really stuck out to me. Perhaps in my naivety, I kinda assumed the families had wanted to do this but I genuinely couldn’t fathom why. At one point there was a woman crying on a chair. She was so far back from the tour, at first it didn’t click who she was. I kinda assumed she was one of the press who were there. Until she spoke She muttered something in Russian and said ‘how would you feel?’ I apologised for not understanding what she meant. She explained that her husband had died on the sub and that the families were ‘urged’ (I took this to mean more than asked) to come here and ‘understand’ our submarines - they were to report back what they saw. I remember her next line so well ‘We who have lost have to come to you after you left our men to die’ The Russians had been very liberal with their excuses. As I’m sure most of you will remember, Britain, France, the US and a few Scandinavian nations all offered to help after hearing the Russian sailors knocking on the sub in morse code (…--… SOS) but they were told on no uncertain terms that getting involved would be seen as an act of aggression. This really hit me. I had, for whatever reason, just thought that government controlled media had died with the USSR I suppose it makes sense it doesn’t just ‘go away’. I tried to explain this. At first, she said that’s exactly what I would say. I was about to try again before an officer came back to get the woman back on track along with an ‘interpreter’ (state supplied, of course) That was the day it sunk in that changing the name of a country doesn’t automatically shift its ideology. I suppose that makes sense really, but when you’re so far removed from the fact, and only hearing bit in the news, you don’t think of the nuances of a situation
I remember that even with the submarine going on. It was horrible to know they're probably going to die because their own country was not willing to allow others to help. Flash forward a few years to the Thailand cave rescue and you can see what international help can do!
50 часов? Мне искренне жаль разум этого журналиста. Стоит мне включить телевизор дольше, чем на несколько минут, и уже начинаю ощущать как теряю мозговые клетки.
@Shawn Im sorry for not being a fluent English speaker. I did not use a translator, only my skills. Funny to see people tolerate mistakes from hispanics or other european languages but not from russian
@Shawn oh wait. I have mistaken this comment section for another, where i war attacked by russophobes for saying that not all russians are bad people. Sorry if I was rude
@Shawn I don't really agree with you even tho I'm a Russian patriot, I just don't think Putin is the right man for Russia. But I respect you for being reasonable and smart in such hard times. This is a rare thing to see. Sorry for grammar mistakes
@Shawn Случайно удалила коммент. Но все-таки не до конца понимаю, с сарказмом ваш ответ или нет. И в комментариях ютюба есть встроенный переводчик, так почему бы и нет?
As a person who lived in russia until a few years ago I can say - that journalist is a trooper. The state TV there is toxic trash that one has to literally endure
@@walthermodel01 You are, I agree with @structureGames, you are very lucky that not under russian propaganda, cnn and fox news is nothing like over there..
Russian propaganda is like a poison, which kills grey brain cells, turning many Russians into zomby. Fortunately, some Russian people are smart, but they are in minority. And often they are pushed out of the country, because poo-tin hates intelligent people.
I'm watching it now for several months. All they do there, is showing their people that western countries are struggling with sanctions and other things. It's more like showing their people, that they are not the only one who got a tough life. Russia knows pretty well that they can't win the war. They might win battles, they might will stop this war and Donbas as well as Crimea will be sovereign, but they will never be respected in the rest of the world. They know pretty well, that their Soviet 2.0 isolated life has just began. There is no back for western politics or companies to such regime. The problem is; all their entire west Russian economy is based on trades with Europe. There is a reason why so many high educated people left Russia. They know, it will not return in the next 5 years (at least), maybe even in the time of their life. My cousin is from St.Petersburg and she is on her way to Armenia, because she is afraid that her boyfriend have to join army when they stay there longer. One year ago, these people would never think of moving to Armenia or Georgia. Her mom and my mom are kids from Soviet Union, blind from propaganda and don't realize that their blind trust to Putin's administration causing all this, their kids have to suffer.
I don't understand how face is saved by saying that the Russian sailors were so inept that they caused or allowed a fire to sink their flagship. Blaming them for an enemy attack is an insult to those sailors.
@@tannerhuxtable6118 The Russians never directly blamed their own sailor. That would be stupid even for the them. But by denying that the fire and explosion was NOT caused by Ukrainian missiles, It's implied that the crew is incompetent because modern warships don't just catch on fire and explode.
@@tannerhuxtable6118 Russian official report is that a Russian sailor was smoking next to the powder storage and set it on fire accidentally and sunk the ship.
My family moved to Israel for economic reasons back in the 90s from Ukraine but my grandparents have been watching the Russian TV ever since, at this point it's so rooted into them the TV not only twisted their minds to turn against their own home but also created a bubble to them so that at this point they refuse to believe the truth they find on the internet saying that it's fake. It's heartbreaking 💔
I remember the story of Belarusian protestor, whose legs were brutally broken by police. On TV they showed it was self-injury and he made it himself to accuse police. After the few months, sometimes watching TV and exploring their media, this guys wasn’t sure if this was made by police and maybe he is guilty.
Kudos to you for not attributing that to Mark Twain. Many people do, but there's no evidence he ever actually said it. Although I'm sure he would have wished he had.
considering that the Ukrainians hit a second ship a day or two ago, it there gonna be another "accident"? Will anyone start wondering why ships conducting special operations near Ukraine spontaneously catch fire sometimes?
I have operated power boats and sailboats on reservoirs, rivers, lakes (not the same as reservoirs), seas, and the open ocean. I have been through storms (gales, tropical storms, hurricanes, etc.) while onboard. I can tell you sincerely, and without doubt or reservation, the Moscva did NOT sink in a storm. Look at the video - use your own eyes and THINK!! Do you see high winds whipping the water into froth and spray? Do you see wind-rows being formed on the water's surface? Do you see swells and waves topping 15 - 20 feet in height (let alone 2 - 3 feet)? No, the Moscva did NOT sink in a storm due to her damage. She was hit with missiles, she suffered intense, significant, crippling damage, and while the Russian Navy was towing her to another port for salvage (a really bad idea to begin with), she sank because the damage was so severe. Most likely, the Russian Navy KNEW she would sink, so they towed her out into very deep water where her damage would be unseen and invisible for years to come. Bottom line - the Ukrainians sank the Moscva with an extremely well-timed and well-aimed missile attack.
From the Ukrainian side, our guys were using a drone (or two, I can’t remember exactly), and this apparently distracted the Moskva defences so much that when the missiles went in, the ship couldn’t defend. They launched them just as a warning and didn’t expect to do any actual sinking. Imagine the shock and amazement 🫢
As a Ukrainian, I express my deep condolences to the journalists' brains! Since Maidan started in 2013 I watched their TV via Internet (at times) just to understand the enemy. Their news are so "twisted", so arrogant! And truly penetrating. At some moments I felt slight hints of starting to believe them ))
@@ashleywilson2072 surly you mean any news right? I hope you're not one of those fox "news" people, which actually used in court that they're not real news, it would be hilarious. Don't be a tool, get news from MULTIPLE sources.
Don't be deceived by US propaganda. They are using Ukraine to weaken Russia. This is a proxy war, they do not care about Ukrainians, democracy, or freedom. They only care about money, resources, and control. As an American, it breaks my heart to say that Russia is right and we are wrong. Just like we were in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Navies have been dealing with onboard fires on ships for 300 years. Imagine the level of incompetence Russia is admitting to in this story of the Moskva.
As a USN vet, I know what you say is true. But considering how often places in Russia seem to spontaneously combust, I imagine most Russians would just shrug and mutter some platitude if told that one of their ships had burst into flames and sank.
The U.S.S Liberty, U.S.S. Stark and the U.S.S. Cole were smaller ships which were farther from base than the Russian ships, hit by anti ship missiles or attacked by a suicide boat that had explosives and they all made it back to base and even the U.S. The Russians can't do anything about a ship failure a couple of hundred miles or less from its base.
@@orlock20 What you say is amazing! I agree it makes no sense but that is Russia. Its really weird, they could succeed in the Anglo-American economic system based on the rule of law, "democratic" elections, and private property, but for some reason they reject it even if it shows to provide more prosperity to their population. China has played the "Game" with America and prospered. For sure they have huge issues but they have the infrastructure to resolve them. But Russia has such huge existential issues that they are lashing out to avoid reckoning which will only be precipitated by what they are doing. Next Monday's announcement by Putin will tell.
*Objectives of Russian Propaganda, disinformation, & brainwashing:* 1. Create distrust in *all* media 2. Sow doubts in veracity of reported facts 3. Create alternative scenarios & explanations not related to the truth but somewhat plausible 4. Distort facts, create new information that is based on kernels of truth but exaggerated & filled with falsity 5. Information overload: bombard with mountains of conflicting information to overwhelm consumers of information 6. Create fatigue & eventual apathy so people eventually just tune out. The average Russian is at stage 6.
Well yeah, cynicism is anathema to truth, or rather the pursuit of truth and understanding it. You don't need to tell a perfect lie, you just need to obscure the truth.
From what I read the younger ones who are able to leave are doing so. In that regard any chance of change will have to be made from outside Russia. I know I cannot believe everything I read however but I believe the most educated knows exactly what’s going on and therefore are looking for a brighter future for their young families.
.CNN and all paid off media are the liars the distortors of reality , we the people have learned how to read history and physics and virus biology .. ''wef your days are numbered
Another aspect of the Ukrainian spirit I find fascinating is not only their fighting spirit but also their unyeilding detirmination to restore that which has been destroyed, physically. Their comrades immediately emerge to begin restoring damaged electrical grids, temporary bridge repairs, debris removal. These people will never be conquered no matter how successful Russias millitary are. Putin cannot defeat the Ukrainian will to be a free, independent, sovereign nation. SLAVA UKRAINI, HEROIAM SLAVA!! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇸
I am from Lithuania. I worked with Ukrainians. They are extremelly intelligent, friendly, hard working and willing to help people with big heart and free spirit. They will win. There can be no other outcome.
Jane, at the start (and before it was apparent that the whole world was against it), repugnant Fox news anchors were glorifying Putin and justifying this senseless barbaric genocidal war.
I only hope that all commanders of the honest world sit in a digital room and discuss the next course of action! We are proud of you! Glory to Ukraine! Honor the heroes! "Honour of Ukraine" Слава Ukraine Our soul is with you!
I feel incredible sorry for him. He must have wanted to yank his eyeballs out after that The few times I’ve watched Russian state TV, I’ve wanted to scream at how ridiculously insane it is.
Putin is going in for cancer surgery in the near future and he will probably be killed on the operating table. The Russians have a history of disposing of troublemakers that way. Straight from the Stalin playbook.
@North Korea Is Best Korea this is war and it’s not so much Russian death but we still waiting on Ukraine soldiers death count as to planes that’s ok but Russia will achieve the goal don’t matter what they have lost they still have a lot of planes helicopters ships subs and bombs of all sizes to turn Ukraine in a stone quarry any minute now
We ought to consider what happens in the minds of the Russian viewers when the message goes from 'there was a fire on the ship" to "we are going to retaliate against the Ukrainians for the sinking of the ship". That kind of discontinuity is certainly not lost on many people, but the reality of the situation constrains their behavior to a large degree. It is risky and of limited utility for Russian citizens to question the party line, so it is understandable that so many go along. What good would it do for them to stick their neck out anyway? But it is hard to believe there is not a large chunk of the population that knows they are being lied to.
The Russian people should NOT be blamed. When a leader takes control slowly and insidiously, the frog being boiled by slowly increasing the temperature, no one can predict or control the person boiling. It is not the frog's fault and has little to absolutely nothing to do with the frog. It is the person increasing the temperature. Of course, Russian citizens can't stick out their necks. However, do they realize that we all may die or be permanently maimed?
All too often people allow themselves to be deceived. Here in the States, delusional Retrumplickin cultists deny reality to follow DJT. I'm not trying to go off topic. I'm just trying to point out how people can buy into lies
There were quite a lot of Russians who tried protesting the war but got arrested. After Kursk in 2000s and the burning of a mall where children died and the news anchor said let pay our condolence to Mr Putin (and the anchor got backlash for that). Many should be quite aware.
'The Admiral Makarov, and the missile cruiser Moskva, have been reclassified as submersible warships and are currently undergoing sea trials with their full crews aboard; everything is going according to plan.' - Vladimir Putin
My mother who was the best student in school now watches state TV in Moscow, and I can't convince her to stop watching. Having an Internet access doesn't change anything.
Here in Michigan my mother has one channel FOX FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY NEWS STATION. THE ONLY CHANNEL! SHE TAKES A DUMP BRIGHT ORANGE .DISCUSSTING !
And you don't watch state propaganda? Are you that clueless? Every Ukrainian that killed is a "brave hero" and every Ukrainian that died is an "innocent victim of a crime" 🙄
@@ilya4759 its hard to avoid partisan news wherever you live but the thing to do is watch AND READ a lot of sources so you're not so gullible. Old people have been through so much, they should know by now that govts lie and dont tell you the truth, not for the public good but to save their arses.
There is a very interesting book by Jessikka Aro, a Finnish Journalist, called Putin's Troll Army - she describes there also, how the russian state propaganda works 💁🏻♂️
@@crystal2484 People who use their brains know that Ukraine caused this problem all by themselves. - They agreed to be a neutral buffer. - They were told to not join NATO - Russia said "Don't do it!" - Ukraine said "We don't care!" - Russia attacked. Funny, how you allow NATO (an organization which is anti-Russian) to have a nice wall of countries right at Russia's border and DEMAND they don't respond.
I remember listening to Radio Moscow in the early 1980’s and The way they described a news event which I had seen on local news broadcast or in the papers, was in a way where it sounded like a completely different event. Seeing those Russian State Broadcast definitely reminded me of that ….
After having spent 2 weeks on vacation in the States, I felt similarly exposed to propaganda and brainwashing. But in the case of the US it is called "advertisement". By the end the the fortnight I started believing I had impotence, depression and that I needed to own a firearm. All of which I can get for a low cost of...
I get that Russian media is warped. But I wouldn't (COULDN'T!) watch 50 hrs of FOX, MSNBC or CNN and expect unbiased coverage, either. Of the three, I *may* trust CNN the most, but that bar is so low, it's almost not worth mentioning.
The Moskva thing is simply hilarious. I know they didn't think that one through. They chose to, rather than admit they were attacked and spin some valiant 9/11 story talking about the sailors' families, instead go with the story that they lost their best battleship because someone was incompetent enough to store a bunch of oily rags right on top of some unsecured ammunition. Is that better?
Yeah. Admitting an attack, that path - from the legal status of the ship - would've meant official war, conscribing Russians and allow the use of tactical nukes.
Yes, I heard this as well. The same Russian journalists report some events differently so that people are dazed and confused and distrustful of the media.
The Russian Journalist's Report Differently, Because They Become More And More DRUNK On Vodka As The Day Goes On. It's Best That The Viewers Remain Drunk While Watching Too...
Wait, I am not a military strategist by any measure of the term but, wouldn't it be more favorable for the Russian army to blame an attack on the ship as the reason for its demise than saying that there was an accident and for that reason it collapsed? Why not put the blame on the enemy instead of admitting something that would make them look more, well I don't know, incompetent?
Because admitting Ukraine is capable of such a thing is more shameful. Also, admitting Ukraine did it emphasizes the immensity of the conflict; it almost seems like war…
@Fire Ice oh yea in my time like being beat by a girl. Yea I think the Russians cannot admit that the Ukrainian armed forces didn't turn out like the wimps they thought they had for neighbors and intimidated for years.
Look how Ukraine army treated their own civilians inside the bunker of steel plant. https: // youtu .be/1OxreZRVYFE Start the video from 8:45 Look how (Germany) West Media plays to the tunes of Ukraine
@Atheos B. Sapien Awww, that's cute. You have no idea of who I am. But, just like Russians that keep calling Ukrainians nazis, you just assigned me a label without any proof. Because I dared to point out a hypocrisy. You should be ever so proud of yourself.
@@lembergnative7731 If You're Listening To Faux Fairytails, News Max Nonsense, Info Wars Insanity And Hannity HATRED; Then You Would HAVE TO BE A Pro-Russian, Diaper Donny Boot Licking ROOTIN For POOPTIN Anti Democracy Far Right Racist. Not Rocket Science To Understand What Their Agenda Is...
>50 hours of Russian state television Cruel and unusual! I hope that he sues. When I had a short-wave receiver during the Cold War, Radio Moscow came in overly loud and clearly absurd.
@@45641560456405640563 I foolishly sold my Hammerlund HQ-100 when I went to college. I once heard a distress call from a sinking boat in the Atlantic Ocean. And I'll never forget the accent from Radio Nederlands. I had many SWL cards on the wall behind my radio.
@@ericking3459 evolution has been proven, the story’s in the bible are plagiarized from older story’s and the bible was composed by the Catholic Church. Book of exodus is a plagarization of the ipuwer papyrus, Noah flood story is the youngest of many flood story’s also plagiarized. If your going by the bible, god did not create us! The circumstances that put ower existence into motion created us as we are now and without that we would not exist.
Before my country turned into a fascist hell, I once watched 6 hours of North Korean TV. It's fun if you know what to expect. It's like a marathon of bad movies.
@@GreenBeanGreenBean Fox News (Which I don’t watch any cable news).. fights amongst itself.. has hosts that were in a 4 year verbal war with Trump, and was even criticized by CNN and MSNBC for botching the election call in az, early for Biden , which dumped Trump and GOP votes.. LOL.. Have any examples of bipartisan opinions on MSNBC? (Have a nice day..since I’ll probably never see you return to provide any)
@@debbie5728 lmao the only host on Fox that wasn't a complete brown noser was Chris Wallace and he couldn't take it anymore and left.......guess where he ended up. Every other host never questions their orange dear leader which is funny because he is the biggliest of losers. You don't think the left criticizes Biden or Obama? lmao.... the only reason Bidens poll numbers are low is because of people criticizing him for not doing enough.
@@GreenBeanGreenBean so, you do you always just ignore people’s examples they politely give you in responses YOUR question, then repost the same erroneous argument as if they didn’t answer? So, again.. I don’t watch Fox, or any TV-Cable news, but read a lot, critique news networks-stories and hosts .. Also, just recently read Michael Wolff’s book where he details Murdoch’s hatred for Trump, and AGAIN, he approved the early and inexplicable call of Az to Biden, which threw the election vote counts (Ask Jimmy Carter who was lambasted by Democrats for early concessions) .. Donna Brazille, Heraldo, Chris stirewaltz, comes, Harold Ford, Maura Aliason, Juan Williams... Smith, JAMES CARVILLE(LOL???) Tamara holder, Bob Beckel, (Neil cavuto was at war with Trump),John Kaisich, DENNIS KUCINICH(LOL) .. Or George will-George Conway... Sorry if names misspelled, but that’s just the top of my head of liberal or anti trump Fox News hosts and journalist.. I simply asked for ONE example from MSNBC of any counter positions ..LOL
Seen parents of the sailors asking where are their son's and being told they have disappeared and are deserters which is just horrible, needless to say the parents are not happy but being silenced.
Before the death of his son, the father wrote wonderful notes on his social networks that Ukraine should be destroyed. There are a bunch of soldiers who don't believe in anything and signed a contract just to get out of poverty. But for strategic objects such as the flagships, they should obviously take ideological ones.
Russian TV - "the ship experienced a minor ammunition incident, a small fire was put out, and brave sailors received Medals of glory"...And now back to our regularly scheduled program the "Bugs Bunny and Tweety hour"
