Joy Division - Digital, New Dawn Fades, Colony, Autosuggestion (live) 

deenibeeniable Not alone there.

yea this is why I only listen to Joy Division for like a week and thats it because my mind becomes really dark.

@@Robobotic wow amazingly pretentious

God just took him away for some more of a yet embetterment.

grow a set

Totally agree. Always sounds fresh and alive and new somehow

Digital is so fresh that sounds a 2010 . Incredible they got this effect on 70's

Is it okay if I love them but not every single song? For example, from Unknown Pleasures "Candidate" and "I Remember Nothing" are throwaway tracks to me.

Uplifting and inspired, absolutely...and inspiring! A creative input, leading always to positive action.

@@Nominaywhy are you asking if it’s ok

Hmm...perhaps a bit optimistic there Jim. There have been MANY great moments in the history of rock, quite a few of them involving bands of greater 'stature' as one might say. The live rendition of Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple being just one example in my opinion. I really like Joy Division and in particular New Dawn Fades but the greatest moment...? Not in my humble opinion.

All art is subjective. Everybody has their own greatest moment with everything. It is quite amusing to see the adjective "optimistic" used in the same paragraph of a discussion of Joy Division.

@@jimhoover4815 not many artists spill their guts like Ian. Maybe not the greatest moment in rock history, but better than any smoke on the water performance lol

Nothing else needs 2 b said ♡♡♡

@@tonywethereld7429 deep purple, ok boomer

Debatable...

Joy Division is The Velvet Underground of the post-punk. Ian Curtis matched Lou Reed.

@Sam Myers nirvana is shit compared to aic and joy division

One of the...

@Sam Myers Curt Cobain even mentions how Ian was an influence on his music. JD influenced a lot of bands.

Very interesting dream.

Mine too

The movie was amazing

Full time

480p isn't Full HD. Full HD is 1080p. 480p is classified as "SD" (Standard Definition)

I'm so.jealous... did u get to.speak with them?

@@SleepingLionUK l use to chat with Hooky, l was mates with Steve Diggle ( Buzzcocks) and they use to share same bill on many nights

@@kevinhyland5524 wow.. ..no way!! . I never knew til recently hooky was married to caroline aherne... wish you could've spoke to ian.. did he seem like a good guy. You know his prescenxe?? I spend a few hrs every Sunday lied back eyes closed listening to their songs... love it.. sidenote I went to junior school in bowdon (where they played) in the 80s but I wasnt born when they were around born 81... mustve been such an unforgettable experience seeing them live ..made all the more precious after his death?.you're sooo lucky. I even have tatoot of that famous photo of IC smoking!

@@SleepingLionUK lan was very quiet unlike hooky, l saw warsaw/ JD about 3 dozen times, l was 18 in 77..Punk changed my life.

@@kevinhyland5524 fuck yeah

I don’t know- New Order is extremely important to the history of music and were responsible for what is pretty universally considered to be the greatest 12” ever produced. And as much as I love JD, and it’s fun to imagine what could have been, I don’t believe they would have outlasted the Bunnymen or The Cure.

Dead lives in all of us. It describes it in poet Form. I like it got to check it.

Depression?

@@darylcumming7119 Definitely, & I'd wager in no small part due to the meds he had to take for the epilepsy. I know because I had to take them as a kid. They make you suicidally depressed & amplify any bad situation you are already experiencing. I took myself off them. Risky but I was convinced if I didn't I'd off myself.

Most medications can have adverse effects when taken by children. Putting children on Prozac back in the day probably led to more deaths than letting the brain develop naturally. Beyond that there’s also the controversy that Ian faked his epilepsy, in which case he was taking medication he didn’t actually need. I often wonder on many of these people like Chris Cornell or Michael Hutchence- had they just gotten through 24hrs, woukd they have chosen differently? I remember trying a drug one night and the following morning I was lower than dirt- like really wanted to top myself badly, but after a day passed and my brain found equilibrium, I was fine.

Unfortunately, we probably would have seen some if the North American Tour ended up happening. Wasn't meant to be.

I think the grainy ghost like images we get are absolutely apt when you think of Ian and the lyrics let alone the atmosphere they create as a band.

@@caelumblanco7004 Why? Did America have better videos?

@@KeimpeJ like Jimbo said, The west is the best. Just get here and we'll do the rest.

Why are you so angry ? This is a long time ago

You don't destroy anyone in a chat forum. Not everyone's gonna like this. I love the playing but the singing's shit.

Easy there

​@@johnbacon9415esto es historia, mira estos artistas, su arte y sus vidas. Mira la tuya y la de los artistas contemporaneos. Ellos daban la vida por su arte, hoy hacen dinero y nada mas hacen musica como si fueran al baño a defecar sobre sus fans

Per Normann That was actually for Ian. Too much lights for him could've triggered a seizure.

Kate Vielle makes it more incredible for me though

Having them flash the lights when he sings "DAY IN, DAY OUT, DAY IN, DAY OUT" was pretty reckless of them, to be honest. Ian and his family were fortunate that his seizures were never captured on film(or if they were, that the person filming had the decency to discard the footage), but that was a close call right there considering how bad his seizures were by 1980.

@@FireMinstrel actually what that is, they turned the spotlight off Ian because he wasn't right up on the mic when he danced, the reason it blacks out is Super 8 cameras usually had automatic light meters, and when the front light goes off, only the lights above Steve's drums are providing light and when you back light a subject with a camera that has an automatic light meter, it blacks out everything in the foreground because the automatic light meter in the camera cannot adjust the exposure properly. Professional photographers always have separate light meters with them that can be manually adjusted for compensating in unusual lighting situations. Also the motion looks "floaty" on Autosuggestion originally, was the slowed the camera down to 18FPS to try to fit the whole song on one reel of film. the standard film cart was 50FT (15.24 meters for people outside the U..S.A) the other songs were filmed at 24FPS. the did make 200FT film carts towards the end of the format when video started to take over, but they were rarely used and the carts were prone to jamming, etc......sorry just a former film nerd supplying nerd facts.........

Согласен с тобой. Я прям в шоке от энергии Яна, как-то даже повеселее стало

blows the studio version out of the water for sure

You should watch the live performance of She's Lost Control, the one where they play on Something Else Show. About 3 minutes in

That's no excuse!! You should've worn a fake moustache and stilts under a long coat.

Me too my friend. Sometimes feel like I was born in the wrong generation. This would have been amazing to see live. Such a loss. May he rest in peace.

Me too my friend. Sometimes feel like I was born in the wrong generation. This would have been amazing to see live. Such a loss. May he rest in peace.

Why not

Catch Hooky's gig sometime after the covid

Exactly

Ditto... Its always stuck in my head

A very good band, but one of the 'greatest' is a big, big call in my view.

The best band of all time

opinions are cheap@@tonywethereld7429

At times The Smiths did...

When I saw throbbing gristle at there comeback gig in London all they used was one miserable light.. That's all that is needed. Unlike Coldplay and the like. Who rely on lights and effects to make there songs seem better

ikr?

It's not Ian, it's this high pitched upload.

Recorded on film, likely 8 mm film cartridges, probably 3 minutes length each. Not shot on video tape.

Ian Marshall you're too high pitched

Yes, analog is much better

I hope you're trolling, that's Ian Curtis.

Why he killed himself what a shame

What a stupid comment. Why does there always have to be an ahole?