Ju52 TURKEY SHOOT - WW2 Combat Air Patrol | Aeroplane Heaven P-47D "Razorback" | Review | MSFS 

Likewise Monty, I’m very much looking forward to the Lancaster also (with the P-47 showing improvement in a number of areas and Aeroplane Heaven reportedly bringing onboard a reputable sound designer for the Lanc / Hurricane, I’m keeping my hopes up that both addons will meet expectations : ) Cheers and all the best!

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@@Boeing45rHave they improved the P-51 sounds?

@@Nathan-bd6cq idk i haven’t checked but if they are a good an responsible “company” they should

Many thanks, AM! Yes, some updated sounds (even if it's just adding control sounds where they are missing) would go a long way. Cheers for watching once again. Much appreciated : )

Thank you very much, Father! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video and that it brought back some nice memories of CFS (I too spent many hours in that sim). Much appreciated and all the best to you! : )

My pleasure on the video, gwalker! Happy flying and all the best : )

Thanks very much FSVRD, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video (and that the P-47 is bringing back some nice memories)! My absolute pleasure on the vid! Happy flying and all the best : )

That attack in the Med is particularly chilling account, huh?!!

Thank you very much, Terry! Yes, the AH P-47 is pretty nice overall and as you say, it wouldn’t take a whole lot to turn it into a great addon. Unfortunately, I don’t think Aeroplane Heaven care very much about anything I have to say (unless I’m missing something obvious, I’ve pointed out the “dead” VSI on their Spit, Mustang and P-47 but, it looks as though their Hurricane still has the same issue) XD As Tom says, that attack / documentary is a rather chilling thought. . . Cheers, as always! Have a great weekend : )

Many thanks, Smink! I do hope you're enjoying the Comanche then! Happy flying and all the best : )

Thanks very much, Andreas! My pleasure on the video - I’m glad you thought it was honest / fair. I very much agree with your assessment regarding FlyingIron / DCS; sometimes it’s nice to just “mix things up” a bit in MSFS though (for the sake of the video : ) Cheers and all the best!

Many thanks, Mark! Indeed - with D-Day being another timely reminder. . . Lest we forget. . . I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight! Thanks as always : )

There are actually 2 exhausts on the P-47D. The rear exhaust is where the majority of the exhaust goes after going through the supercharger/turbocharger system (Name seems to change depending on the diagram used). The front one is for the wastegate for excess exhaust gasses, as well the oil cooler being ahead of it. Apparently on current civilian P-47's flying, the turbo/supercharger system is disconnected and all exhaust goes through the forward exhaust. The system was very vulnerable to exhaust fires, and it would more often than not lead to the loss of the aircraft.

Nope, there are two exhausts under the engine cowl flaps, just under the wing root on each sides.

@@timothybird7450 Yes you're right, as modern day p-47 don't need to escort bombers at high altitude but are preserved for airshows, the turbo charger is not used anymore.

I stand corrected. There are indeed two exhausts behind the lower cowl. The model is still not right though as it appears to be coming out the oil cooler. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K4vuGy9WkQk.htmlsi=CorAzma0B_UieK2Q

Hi 5dmk, I completely agree with all of that, except for the part about the Razorback not being the prettier P-47?! ; ) I am certainly hoping that we'll see FlyingIron's P-47 in MSFS, at some point : ) Cheers, all the best!

Many thanks, Roger! I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight : ) All the best!

Many thanks for the kind words, James - much appreciated! The Sabre is definitely on my list of potential projects. It's an addon that I am quite keen to try for myself however, it's not a top priority at the moment (as I've missed all the "hype") so, it will likely be a video that I save for a "rainy day" haha ; ) Cheers again and all the best! : )

Great review iTB! Keep up the great work!

Hi Harry, Thanks very much for the info. Is there something I'm missing, with regards to the gear and the flaps then? So long as I'm below the Vle / Vfe speeds, I should be good? I might have dropped them faster than is ideal but, that shouldn't damage anything (I wanted the drag to help get the aircraft slowed down)? It's a genuine question - I'm not trying to be facetious haha. In terms of the speeds, I wasn't too far off the ones that you mentioned (at least given my own abilities / lack of familiarity with the addon). My operation of the turbo was a bit of a concession for the sim and such a setting was necessary to get full power for the takeoff. I hope that clarifies things on my end a little. Cheers and all the best! : )

​@@IntotheBlueSimulationsUnderstood the turbo was due to sim limitations, just wanted to note how the real version behaved. Greg's Airplanes and Autos has some fantastic videos on the P-47's compound turbo-supercharger system. It was a real technogical marvel. On the landing, the flaps are actually slotted semi-fowler style flaps. They themselves aren't going to generate near as much drag as you'd expect from their size and lift, so they aren't going to slow you as much as you'd expect. The P-47 also has an extremely low drag wing, when flying straight and unloaded, so you're also going to have a much harder time losing speed than usual. I think the best way to shed speed is by g-loading on the break to final. On the gear and flaps extension timing, the gear and flaps were all on the same hydraulic system so one or the other would go first if all were set. Also the flaps were not effectively synchronized. They'd hit the same spot, but never really at the same time. It was a complaint in the initial trials, and the post war NACA tests showed the same problem. Basically the plane wanted to roll one way or the other during flap extension, and pilots just got used to it, but doing it in turns invited a spin. On the landing itself, it's more about your pitch controls your speed and your throttle controls your sink rate. It's a lot more like a carrier landing than a GA piston engine landing. Getting the nose up gets the wing in the high drag/high lift regime so you can come in slower for a more 3-point landing, and not have to ride the breaks so hard. The P-47 does *not* want to slow down, so anything you can do to reduce the touchdown speed is huge. Sorry didn't cover that earlier, typing in a hurry, still...

Enjoy, Saren! : )

Haha, same here, Kyle; I keep P3D installed, entirely for the purposes of (very occasionally) flying the A2A Spit (probably my favorite sim addon of all time)! Thank (as always) for the info! : )

Haha! Thank you, sir. Always good to have something to fall back on, I suppose : P Cheers and all the best!

Hello Mr Fluffy, For the DC3 video, I made myself a custom scenery (using the sim's built-in SDK). For this video, the airfield was a payware scenery, available from Miltech Simulations. I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best : )

I believe there is a sound associated with the flywheel, Andrew however, as with a lot of AH sounds, it's not up to scratch (it's very quiet / meek). I do think that the P-47 has one of the better AH soundsets to date but, that bar hasn't been set particularly high haha. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! Many thanks for watching and all the best : )

Yeah, noticed that right away. No sound effects for certain switches makes me sad and really shouldn't be a thing for a $30-40 aircraft! And yeah, the heatblur effect is way overdone.

I totally agree, Adam. I think there are a lot (most) of simmers that don’t need 100% “realism” however, I think all of us want to feel fully immersed and sound is one of the most important factors in that regard. Years ago, missing sounds etc were quite acceptable, I don’t think that is any longer the case. The heat haze does seem pretty OTT, yes haha. Cheers, sir! All the best : )

Haha! For sure, Streaky. Although to be fair, our friend in the Ju52 also had quite an advantage in that, thanks to MSFS' draw distance, he was also able to call upon some sort of Klingon cloaking technology! XD I'm glad you enjoyed the flight though! Cheers and all the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations haha, those pesky Klingons, least it wasn't romulan tech!

Thanks very much for the info, Tom! I had about the former explanation for “Jug”, but not the latter haha XD All the best! : )

Yep. the DCS one feels alive. I'm not fan of the Milviz's Corsair, but the Flying Iron's Hellcat is amazing.As you said, all of these with Double Wasps, this from AH does not sound like that at all.

That's fair, Matt. Most of my assessments are relative; DCS can't really be matched when it comes to sound so, I'm really comparing vs other MSFS addons (and I agree, FlyingIron are about as good as it gets in MSFS). For whatever reason, audio generally still seems to be one of the weaker areas of MSFS (though AH take much of the blame in this particular case). Cheers, all the best : )

Thank you very much once again, sir! Yes, AH often seems to fall short on the sounds, unfortunately (all the more so, given that sounds are of the utmost importance on a warbird). That being said, they do seem to have taken some strides to address the issue (eg taking on Echo 19 for their Hurricane sounds and updating the MKI shortly after release). I see that they have just released another update to their P-51; I’m unsure whether that includes improved sounds and I have yet to try the update. Hopefully things will improve going forwards (and especially for the Lanc!). All the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations: Glad to hear about the update. Let us know if the sound issues have been fixed on the P51 because I’ll definitely be purchasing that if so. Thanks!

That's fair, Julian. FlyingIron did make a P-47 for XP11 so, hopefully we'll see their rendition of the Thunderbolt in MSFS, at some point (it's almost guaranteed to be great!). All the best : )

Sorry sir I meant turbo over speed. Sorry sir

Hello James, The product manual doesn't go into a lot of detail but, as I understand it (and if I recall correctly), the light is blinking to indicate that the waste gate of the turbo is in operation. You don't want a solid red light, but you do (apparently) want to see it blinking under normal operation (presumably, keeping the turbo output at a value where pressure constantly needs to be released from the system). It's an odd design choice and very counterintuitive but, I guess designers were still figuring these things out during WWII haha. I hope that clarifies things a little. I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight! Cheers : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes Sir. Thank you for taking the time to explain it. I really appreciate it. Take care sir.

Thanks very much, Patrik! I am pretty keen on taking a look at the DCS P-47, actually. I'll hopefully get around to it eventually : ) Cheers and all the best!

Hi Kyle, The cowl flap control, is the little plunger on the right side of the main instrument panel, located just below the primer handle. I hope that helps? All the best : )

Hi DS, Have you managed to get things sorted? I'm afraid, I'm not sure what might be causing your issues (there is no requirement to "load" the guns etc) but, a fresh reinstall is always a good starting point. Otherwise, getting in touch with Aeroplane Heaven directly, is probably your best bet. Sorry that I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!

Hello Chris, I have a large backlog of content to make / edit at the moment but, I'd be more than happy to add the T-6B to my list of potential future projects : ) Cheers, all the best!

Hi Ricardo, The keybind is detailed in the manual. From memory, I think you have to assign a key to "Water Rudder Toggle". I hope that helps. All the best! : )

It’s nice to just be able to fly warbirds or military aircraft anywhere in the world and in incredible scenery. DCS does not allow this. There is definitely a financial element too; DCS is far more niche and modules have to be developed to a much higher level as every aircraft (apart from flaming cliffs) is study level. The amount of time and effort to get even a passable module in DCS is insane. DCS players rightly expect a lot from their modules.

@cmdrfurai9939 's answer is perfect. You'll see vague models of military aircrafts popping up all the time on thrMSFS marketplace. Developping them seems to be a matter of weeks (obviously not for the good stuff like Flying Iron...), when developping a proper module for DCS takes years, litterally. Just have a look at the incoming F4 from Heatblur (just the manual in itself is incredible) to understand the difference. Abnd top of that, there simply cannot be a payware addon to DCS that hasn't been vetted by Eagle Dynamics. It has to integrate with other systems, have a damage model, and so on.

The idea of flying military craft outside of war is more of roleplay, training or spectacle such as airshows, i like to fly the Eurofighter up and down Britain landing at military bases, or pretend to be moving military cargo with a larger plane, it's always great to see the Spitfire so i might fly it around the UK and attempt some landings in some grassy fields for the challenge, i'm not a big roleplayer i just use it as an excuse for doing certain flights. I play DCS also but that's a lot more about learning to use systems and deploy weapons, i prefer to fly in MSFS.

In addition to what's been said here... Eagle Dynamics, who make DCS, are quite a lot harder to work with than the much more open MSFS platform. Existing third party studios have described their discontent with how ED treats them, and I'm not just talking about Razbam at this point.

I think it really depends on what you want to to do, and how often, with these war-birds. I just want to fly sometimes a WWII war-bird, with my existing add-ons and scenery, and without having an entire different simulator for that - especially if I don't want any combat.

Haha well, if I had used the "appropriate" markings in the video, RU-vid definitely would have treated me like a baddie! XD

Turbos do very complex things to the sound profile of an engine.

@@HarryVoyager Yes but the way the engine starts is not modified by the turbo.

Hi Jeffrey, When it comes to personal use, I *very* much enjoy simming in VR (though sadly, I get very little time to do it these days). When it comes to recording content, I don’t find VR recordings to be very viewer-friendly so, I stick with 2D. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )