JUDAS PRIEST Replacement Singers - Who Did It Better? Rob Halford - Tim (Ripper) Owens

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In this corner, we have Tim "Ripper" Owens! And in this corner, we have Rob Halford! Shake hands and come out fighting! (Respectfully). WHO DID IT BETTER? Judas Priest!
JUDAS PRIEST Replacement Singers - Who Did It Better? Rob Halford - Tim (Ripper) Owens
Rob Halford’s command of the audience often involved him looking directly toward the crowd as if to directly call someone out and Tim Owens also exhibited his own dominance on stage.
The unique story of Tim replacing Rob was the inspiration for the movie The Rockstar and I’m looking forward to hearing what you thought. Who Did it Better? Let me know in the comments!
Rob Halford’s charisma was off the charts and as we look at some of his live performances we’ll also discuss his songwriting and the incredible energy and showmanship he brought.
We’ll then compare Tim Owen’s big, girthy sound and look at how his singing stacked up to Rob along with his long, belted screams.
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@conjob2112 3 года назад

The thing I love about Ripper is he seemed fully aware of the position he was in and was as stoked as anyone in the arena. He was like “oh my god, I’m in Judas Priest”

@KayDub-t6v 7 месяцев назад

He also got a little too big for his britches in an interview once that I read where he said he had a naturally higher voice than Rob Halford.

@hazardeur 4 месяца назад

@@KayDub-t6v well, he can sing abigail better than king himself, much better, so that's that

@jasonk1468 3 года назад

Ripper is a great singer in his own right. Love his stuff. Powerful for sure. But, Rob will always be the metal god for a reason. His vocal is 100% killer.

@gregorytaylor3146 3 года назад

Tim spent several years fronting a Priest tribute band called *British Steel* He started them around Akron, Ohio and built out from there. He idolizes Rob Halford.

@user-sh3vz3ol3j 3 года назад

Unlike Maiden when they lost Bruce, I truly believe Priest was exceptionally lucky to find Tim and because of that I think it was unfortunate/unfair that Tim never received the praise he deserved. Loving the series Ken. Hope you get around to doing bands like Deep Purple/Rainbow, great stuff!

@davesmith3530 3 года назад

Owens has always been a criminally underrated singer

@kentamplin 3 года назад

👍

@dragonseye00 3 года назад

Yes, and I feel good voice matured quite well actually. He seems to have more voice control now

@j_freed 3 года назад

@@dragonseye00 It’s often true that Male singers in their 40s reach their peak of tone and voice control… Look at Bruce Dickinson in iron maiden.

@andypostema4269 3 года назад

Yet Owens can't seem to stick with a band for more than a few albums. I've often wondered if he's difficult to work with or just prefers to explore his options. I can't say I know much about him as a person.

@robd5307 3 года назад

I dont kow about that. Everybody I know is in awe of him

@markneal3445 Год назад

I truly can’t believe there is even a discussion.Rob Halford is the Metal god!! Pure Freak!!!

@archibaldsalyards926 3 года назад

Tim Owens… thank you so much for being one of only a few singers to hold up to the original… and in doing so, you are also an original, and awesome!!! Much praise to your gifted voice!!!! 🙏

@kentamplin 3 года назад

My pleasure!

@donniehill5688 Год назад

The One who is still killing it at 71, The Metal God Himself !!!! Rob Halford.

@MarsHalekGuitar 3 года назад

Halford invented Halford, and will always be an original. Owens stands on his shoulders, along with other metal influences that might make him a more versatile singer. I hear a little James Hetfield in his lower register, as well as others who have been mentioned, some who arrived after Halford's formative years. I feel like I might run into Tim, a hardworking journeyman, in a bar somewhere, whether he's gigging or just watching football, whereas part of Rob's charisma is that he seems to have stepped off of a spaceship.

@siegmundfuchsbrugger1365 3 года назад

Halford is unreachable! Most of all i love his natural voice like in songs like Before the Dawn, Prisoner in your eyes, Nostradamus, Epitaph, … I don’t like if people just see his unique screams

@amjasper3341 2 года назад

I love rob too bro

@JV-vi8st 5 месяцев назад

I love Rob too, but he doesn’t have the aggression or the range that Tim brings to the table!

@braydenchastain2002 3 года назад

Halford will never be matched, he's just too good!!

@ivsiguitarist 3 года назад

I had the opportunity to record 2 songs with Tim Ripper Owens. He is a total powerhouse and a total pro in every sense.

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Very cool!

@ivsiguitarist 3 года назад

@@kentamplin Still waiting for that Warrel Dane review. If you're into theatrical power metal vocals he was the best,,,,

@brendanoneil3489 3 года назад

@@ivsiguitarist 'white rabbit' cover!

@War624 3 года назад

@@ivsiguitarist Total beast, RIP. There's not a lot of Sanctuary stuff with Joseph Michael, but I wouldn't mind a Sanctuary video from Ken about the two. Joseph's main band Witherfall is pretty good.

@bolgarbalgarinov7325 3 года назад

Rob Halford is the best rock singer ever, the only and unique. Tim Owens is the only one who could replace Rob Halford in Judas Priest - the greatest heavy metal band of all time.

@NickVolk 3 года назад

In no way buddy-just listen to Ralf Scheepers of Primal Fear!

@aldefleppardbangkokcrispyc3623 3 года назад

ROB METAL GOD HALFORD for the ultimate win. Flawless victory ✌ 🇬🇧

@wesbates1143 3 года назад

Rob is in the holy trinity of METAL singers. Rock is a different beast and the greatest ROCK singer ever is Paul Rodgers.

@barrysmith839 3 года назад

@@wesbates1143 No, Rob Halford is the greatest singer in Rock history, much greater than Paul Rodgers. Your choice wouldn't be in the top ten. Elvis is greater than Paul Rodgers.

@gib59er56 Год назад

@@barrysmith839 He has a point Barry. Halford is my favorite vocalist for many reasons. He writes amazing lyrics, he has a huge presence, his unique phrasing is something only he does. He doesn`t scream all over the place, only where the song recorded one. His softer tones in early days are a thing of beauty. I have a few guys that I really like as singers, and some are just great performers and make up for their limited range with charisma. David Lee Roth is a great frontman( was) with swagger. I don`t know why so many people revere Paul Rogers. He is a good singer, but he doesn`t really do anything special. He is a typical 70`s rock singer and a good one, but that is all, no superman. The guy saying Roger is a rock singer and Halford is a metal one is true, but why did he even say that?? That remark came out of left field. Now... Owens has more power in his chest than Rob. But Rob is THE man. He is called the Metal God for a good reason. He has the whole package. You cannot replace him. You can get a great vocalist like Owens to sing and be technically stronger, but Halford can not be replaced by anyone, ever.

@missionfitness7933 3 года назад

Tim did a great job and is a very gifted singer. But I don't think anyone can come close to Rob's charisma and stage authority.

@michellebedard6933 3 года назад

stage or studio Halford is the voice of jp

@chiphargis2419 3 года назад

King Diamond is leagues beyond Halford

@lukanovak1492 Год назад

@@chiphargis2419 looool

@megadownable Год назад

Or you mean ultra gayness

@Nickepickeparonpung Год назад

Agree Judas are 90% Rob Halford or more in my opinion. A even greater singer dosen’t matter. It is like Motörhead was Lemmy, and he was not even famous fore his crazy good voice 😂 Some singers can not be replaced. Like Udo in Accept🤷🏼‍♂️not the best singer, but perfect for ”Balls to wall”👍😊

@pjones8404 2 года назад

Here is the thing about both singers. Rob Halford went through several different vocal periods. From the beginning up until say 1980, his voice was exceptional. But from 1980 - 1985 he was drinking a lot and his voice was very inconsistent. His pitch would jump all over the place and many times they would add delay on his screams to lengthen them live. But in 1986 he got sober and up until the Painkiller tour his voice was off the charts. He had unlimited range and control. Some of the most impressive singing I have ever heard. When he left Priest and formed "Halford" he was in spectacular form, and I content that everything he has done (albums and live) since returning to Priest pales in comparison to what he did with "Halford". Tim was amazing. Simply amazing. His power, control, and epic upper range was stunning. Wickedly underappreciated! I happen to love the two albums Tim recorded with Priest. Take "Victim of Changes". Perhaps THE classic Priest song of all-time and compare what Rob did on "Unleashed in the East" and the full version of what Tim did on the "Live in London" video that Ken used for portions of his comparison in this video. That is prime vs. prime and while I never suggest one is "better" than the other, there are elements of Tim's performance that I prefer. His second verse is one of the greatest sustained screams I have ever heard. The "You're tryin' to find your way again" section and when he pushes the already sustained scream way up the scale is breathtaking. Also, do yourself a huge favor and listen to Tim destroy the King Diamond track "Abigail" live for the Road Runner records birthday concert. It's perhaps one of the greatest vocals covers I have ever heard. Both are magnificent singers. Rob, the original and singularly unique. Tim exceptional as well. It is just so difficult to replace an icon no matter how great you might be, and Rob's legacy proved to be too much to overcome.

@williamrawls4680 2 года назад

No question about it. Ripper Owens!!!

@DannyGadish 3 года назад

Gotta give it to Halford, especially for those 70s Priest albums. Those earlier album had some of the best singing I've ever heard. And classic Priest(1974-1990) has always been my fave band

@gib59er56 Год назад

Sad Wings of Destiny has amazing tracks on it. I think it is my favorite Priest album. Screaming and Defenders are the other two of their best stuff.

@ronwilliams1094 3 года назад

I'm friends with Ripper's guitarist, Nick, from back when he fronted the Priest tribute band, British Steel. Seeing our hometown boy go on to front the actual band was surreal. Tim knew Rob would probably return at some point and was totally okay with it. That whole opportunity opened doors for Tim which otherwise would have been nonexistent for a Northeastern Ohio musician.

@blackout.X 3 года назад

Cathedral Spires, man. What a jam

@metallion0738 3 года назад

@@blackout.X . Also death row sounds badass.

@thommysguitarcorner4687 3 года назад

Damn, your avatar is great, haha =D

@arikthenot-so-redasericthe1838 3 года назад

I bet that show really rocked the Crossroads. Miss the hell out of that place.

@victorneckar7743 3 года назад

I’m a Akron guy also, Tim has always kicked ass

@nonphenomenon4862 3 года назад

Tim Owens is a great singer, but Rob's charisma is iconic and basically untouchable.

@blainetrahan8883 3 года назад

Two words. Holy Crap. Man both of those guys are absolute beasts. Great video again.

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@spacedragon68 Год назад

I was so loyal to Rob Halford that I have never heard Tim Ripper Owens sing. I heard it here and I am very inspired by vocal talent. Both are amazing!!

@brotheraugustine 2 года назад

I met Tim after a show in San Diego and he’s a normal, humble, working-class guy. The fame hasn’t gone to his head at all.

@aquabot 3 года назад

Tim Owens is a wasted talent. I mean he should have had a band that would have sent him into the stratosphere. Like so many other talented guys he deserves more than what he 's had.

@Michael-ue6tg Год назад

Halford Is believable on any track,his whole persona is so unique that to duplicate is virtually impossible,Once he's gone its gone forever.. A singer is not just about singing its a whole vibe an aura that engulfs the whole band.

@Michael-ue6tg Год назад

Halford like from a different planet, you just don't forget vocalist like that,

@m3bmuadib 3 года назад

Owens is really good. I think he takes on the Painkiller vibe and pushes Judas Priest into heavier territories. I think he did it very well. He added something to the band by pushing them into a more 90's 00's metal sound.

@Dsntmtter2ME Год назад

Cathedral Spires by Priest with Ripper really shows what he is capable of. I don't know if they ever did it live, but it's one of judas priest's best songs.

@Pius_Rueegg 11 месяцев назад

Also tim owns diamonds and rust in my opinion ❤

@prchise 3 года назад

Tim did an awesome job in both JP and Iced Earth. Phenomenal singer and performer!

@anthonyspina5723 3 года назад

I became a Judas Priiest fan for 2 albums, Jugulator and Demolition. Those albums were just so brutally heavy and macabre and I loved them! They took the music to some dark and heavy areas they hadn't been before. And the songs were so unstructured and free form which I loved whereas before they were becoming a bit predictable. It's almost as if they were a new band with newly tapped unrelenting energy. That said Rob Halford is one of the nicest classiest human beings you could ever hope to meet. Interestingly Rob recently said he listens to Dio before he performs live as a way to get psyched for the show. Pure class!

@zimbalist 3 года назад

Tim is fantastic. The stuff he did with Iced Earth was so epic, especially Gettysburg 1863, the feel and vocal performance bring tears to my eyes. I love him! He kept Priest alive and performed some epic vocals.

@Metalbass1979 3 года назад

I totally agree! I wish he could've stayed in Iced Earth. One of my favorite bands ever.

@gabrielstern4992 3 года назад

I am an iced earth fan as well until around 2013 but to me like priest and maiden with Bruce and Rob. Matt Barlow is the voice of iced earth. And I say that today. Considering stu block. Where stu seemed to be more in Matt's range as a baritone but would over act compared to Tim or Matt. Personally for Tim I think at the time when the 2 Pantera guys did damage plan before dimebag Darrel was tragically killed they should of had pat Lachman on second guitar with dime and had Tim Owen's be the frontman. Instead of pat. Because at the time Tim had more of that kind of early Phil Anselmo voice before Phil went extreme. Nowadays I think Tim is a much better singer especially with kks version of judas priest. Still not Halford but a much better vocalist

@zimbalist 3 года назад

@@gabrielstern4992 Stu Block is amazing! Incorruptible is a kick-ass album with amazing vocals.

@naui_diver9290 3 года назад

Whos Iced Earths drummer

@TheRealMediaMan 3 года назад

And now we have KKs Priest

@jflo4186 3 года назад

Halford, legendary. Priest was my first show

@barrysmith839 3 года назад

The danger for you, Ken, when you are judging great singers, is that, because you are such a great singing teacher and know so much about technique and even the anatomy of the voice, that you may miss seeing that magical element that escapes critical judgement. Maria Callas, definitely the greatest soprano of the 20th Century, if not all time, had both a beautiful voice and an ugly voice. She had faults, sometimes technical faults, but somehow she turned even those into unique virtues which made her stand out from more conventionally perfect singers. Rob Halford is the same. His voice is both beautiful and ugly, dark and light, good and evil, in such a way, that it becomes compelling to listen to. Tim "Ripper" Owens is a more conventionally perfect singer than Rob Halford but does not possess that unpredictable magic that only a genius possesses. The same holds true for your video on AC/DC. Brian Johnson may be the conventionally more perfect, even better, singer than Bon Scott but Bon Scott is a one-off, iconic, magical personality, beloved and adored in Australia, because he reflects the Australian larrikin character so completely.

@jerryhatrick5860 2 года назад

Johnson sang good for one album Scott had a voice he didn't have to fake. While I love the Johnson era music I can o ly take so much I can listen to bon all freaking day.

@zach7948 Год назад

The ACDC conversation is one that is almost unfair to have too, in my opinion. You get to hear Brian Johnson's decline across over 40 years worth of harsh singing... but Bon Scott up and died so quickly that everyone remembers him when his voice was at its strongest.

@StaticResurreXion 2 месяца назад

I am honored to have Ripper Owens featured on my upcoming album, Hyena

@Trollz0r.Trololol 3 года назад

Rob's a legend but Tim is a whole other beast entirely. Jugulator is one of Priests best albums, in my opinion.

@dragonseye00 3 года назад

I think so too. Purists don't like it, but it was an amazing album, and Tim did a great job live

@ElizondoAbelardo 3 года назад

Criminally underrated album for me. One of the most solid Priest albums and I just think it's amazing that a band that started in the 70s was able to get this kind of sound.

@maidenshazza 2 года назад

We seem to make subjective judgements based on our love for a particular singer. But as Ken said, if we were to objectively break down Tim's voice and live performances, he slaughters Halford with his variety and vocal control. Tim is by far the most underrated singer in Metal

@gib59er56 Год назад

He might be technically stronger with a better chest, shows he was obviously trained. But "slaughter" is just not right. What about his songwriting? W@hat about his melodies. What about his charisma? A very strong voice, no doubt. Younger and never went thru coke and drinking and taking a band from a local act to the most Revered and respected bands in the world because of his vocals, lyrics and command. He stepped into a proven , veteran well oiled Maserati. Good for him!! He fulfilled his dream. Super set of pipes. Powerful. Halford is much more than a voice.

@WurzHurz Год назад

Exactly! Charisma and personality is what matters more than any technique. Even when Halford sang technically bad on some shows, he still had all the spirit that moves you. Nothing Tim does moves me. He actually sings like a karaoke singer; that's the problem. Spirit is EVERYTHING! Personality always wins artistically over training or technique. If this isn't true, a vocal-computer would be the best singer in the world. Music is not about who sings louder or holds a note longer.

@benedictdonald4338 Год назад

I’ve always found Ripper’s voice to be “ugly”. Just not a good fit for Priest.

@pwokaren 2 года назад

I watched Ripper Owens singing in Western Australia last night and he had the crowd screaming for more ! An electric performance ⚡️⭐️🔥🇦🇺

@NZLatic 3 года назад

I’ve been a Halford fan since I first heard him in the mid-80’s and I styled my own singing style on his. Having said this, I feel that Rippers slower live version of Diamonds and Rust is one of the best live performances I have ever heard. Both vocalists are of the highest level but Halford just had the pedigree and stage presence which made him the legend he rightly is.

@Metalbass10000 3 года назад

Four words: Ian Gillan, Deep Purple. High falsetto, long held notes, powerful belting mid chest voice (listen to Rob from 1990 to 2000 to 2010 to 2020, as he has learned to take care of his health, and his voice, the progression is striking).

@fernandocenteno4446 3 года назад

My favorite album with Ian is actually the Born Again album from Black Sabbath. His voice and Iommi's guitar just blend so well together

@RockU2Death5150 3 года назад

Ripper is incredible. Always been a fan. He was a fantastic lead vocalist for Priest. I respected him because he had the skills to sing all of the material without being a clone of Halford. Owens did not create the sound nor did he write the famous Priest tracks; instead, he took what already existed, cranked it up with his thicker (younger?) voice, and drilled it home until Rob decided to return. A hell of a ride, an incredible but ultimately sad story for Tim "Ripper" Owens.

@raymondkight2235 3 года назад

100

@rickyesch1586 3 года назад

Not so sad as we now have KK'S Priest!

@keithburchart6419 3 года назад

@@rickyesch1586 Wow are you ever right on that! KK's Priest is phenomenal in all respects. Musicianship is amazing, and Tim's vocals are off the charts!!!! Glad he is fronting that band!

@benmetzloff9124 3 года назад

I've enjoyed both singers equally, but I feel that Halford created a more interesting lineage lyrically,for judas preist

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@benmetzloff9124 3 года назад

@@kentamplin anytime..keep it rocking

@vapor9699 3 года назад

I think Ripper did an excellent job stepping in, what a feat to take on. Ripper has also become a much better singer since his days with Priest. His current work with KK's Priest is just sensational. With all that said, Rob Halford is a force to reckon with, especially during the 80s, just so commanding and nobody could touch him, he is a legend. They are both great singers, and although similar they are different. Great video, loved the analysis.

@pgcobravert Год назад

Tim is one of my favorite singers. I think he did a great job carrying JP to the next chapter. I love Rob as a singer, too.

@fvitti 3 года назад

Tim made me a Judas Priest fan. Period. Rob is the metal god, but Tim was the best replacement JP could picked it up, no doubt at all. All my respect and love for both amazing singers.

@carsteng964 Год назад

Since 2000 Rob Halford is the "Teleprompter God"

@FatalArrivalMetal 3 года назад

It is hard to compare. Halford is THE voice of Judas Priest, but Ripper did an excellent job and helped the band to exist during the 90s \m/

@Jcruzer70 3 года назад

Ripper is and always will be a phenomenal vocalist. The reality at least for me is that the 2 Priest albums with Ripper just didn't have the quality of song writing that exist with Halford. Yes, Halford did it better 😁

@boke75 2 года назад

Bullet Train, Cathedral Spires and Burn in Hell are great songs, notwithstanding. Wish Rob would sing them onstage.

@Adastra5151 9 месяцев назад

Rob Halford had a great deeper voice also..I love it.

@elpappo Год назад

I've seen Priest in all its formations but with Tim it was something different. The band's sound was out of this world. Point for him.

@Living_EDventures 3 года назад

I seen Priest at the State Theatre in Battle Creek Michigan back in around 95 to 97. I forget the year. I remember wondering how they would sound with a new singer. Tim killed the show. I mean i was totally satisfied with what i saw. Stood up by the speakers on stage and my ears rang for hours after. Lol

@scottweisner8023 2 года назад

I grew up with Tim, It's nice to hear an honest opinion, everyone else has stayed loyal to Rob which is understandable but Tim Ripper Owens is a force to be reckoned with!!!!

@davemosso2262 2 года назад

It was nice seeing you give props to local vocalist Tim Ripper Owens. He actually grew up about 20 minutes from where I did. He was in a Priest tribute band in the Akron, Ohio area, opening the shows with his other band. While I'm not a huge Priest fan, I do like Iced Earth a lot, another band Tim was in, and in my opinion, their best vocalist. Tim is also amazing in A New Revenge. You mentioned the movie Rockstar, while it was loosely based on Tim, he did not authorize it, and was not completely true to life. I watched the Motley Crüe episode you did as well, and oddly enough, John Corabi did a show at Tim Owens Rock House (restaurant and bar) in 2014 I believe. It was a phenomenal show, as John performed the entire 1994 Mötley album in order as it is on the album. His son Ian was on drums. There was a meet and greet after the show, the whole band was very nice and took time to talk with the fans. I saw Mötley in 1994 with Corabi, both shows were amazing to say the least. Keep doing what you do sir, we enjoy it.

@Wanderer_1877 3 года назад

It's a really great video! Sometimes you just expressed my own feelings ;). Anyway, I was a teenager in the 90s and I supposed I would never see Priest live. And then suddenly the Ripper line up came about and I was just blown away by his and the band's performance. It's something I'll hold forever in my heart. I also add that my favourite singer ever is Rob. But Tim did a more than worthy job when Rob went to walk on his own bizarre ways. :)

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@richardmitchell8213 3 года назад

Halford in his prime was simply one of the best vocalists of all time. Tim Owens time with Priest though was very interesting. I love Juggulator, I think its probably the heaviest studio album Priest has ever done and Tim gave the band a really cool "shot in the arm" at a time they needed it. Me personally, I dig them both and enjoy "All" of Priests music forever.

@trevfury 3 года назад

I am a huge fan of both. Demolition and Jugulator are both among my favorite albums by any band, as are Painkiller and Firepower. What an amazing body of work this band has! And deepest admiration and respect to both vocalists.

@Aphhalliday89 3 года назад

Halford's just an absolute monster in so many respects. Especially towards the late 80s-90s where he reached his peak. He's still fantastic now, I've seen the band a couple of times and the second during the Epitaph tour he was on absolute fire. He's certainly had to do a lot of self searching and reinventing of his voice since the reunion though, I really enjoy that gruff, gritty, bellowing voice he uses these days in a lot of Priest stuff! It's a huge influence on my own singing in a lot of ways. Ripper deserves credit where its due for doing what he did too though. My favourite of his material was during his stint in Iced Earth rather than Priest. I understand too, that it was almost Ralf Scheepers to have gotten the job to replace Rob who would have certainly done just as well as Tim did in whatever alternative timeline that may have happened :D Brilliant video again, Ken. I enjoy watching these whenever I see them in my recommended videos feed!

@TsvetelinIvanovTheBachkator 3 года назад

Rob's chest voice has become strong after the 90s tho. The 30 years British Steel show is amazing and the stuff without priest too.

@Joe_Jimenez_official 9 дней назад

Just saw KKs Priest last night in Riverside,CA and OMG. What a voice!! I knew Tim is an amazing singer but watching him from the second row blew my mind!!! Love Rob Halford but Tim Owen is an amazing singer as well!! Amazing!!! 🎉

@joshuascott3428 3 года назад

Tim Riper Owens was a man replacing the Metal God and became a legend in the process and he did it again with Iced Earth

@kentamplin 3 года назад

👍

@kevincust1329 3 года назад

I agree Josh. Ken you should check out the Glorious Burden from Iced Earth. Tim replaced Matt Barlow, who has one of the most unique voices of all time. Tim killed it. Check out that album and also, please do a review on Matt Barlow form Iced Earth (particularly Travel in Stygian off the Alive in Athens video. It’s on RU-vid you can find it right away). Thanks and great video! I love Ripper and glad to see him get the credit he deserves. He’s also a great guy as well.

@Fixxer315 3 года назад

@@kevincust1329 A comparison of Matt Barlow v. Tim Owens v. Stu Block would be awesome, as all three are distinctive singers, and yet they each put their stamp on Iced Earth.

@ScreaminT81 2 года назад

Halford is the king. No one comes close, EXCEPT Tim! Tim had the ability to replace Rob with out even thinking about it. No one is better for JP than Rob. It’s the look, presence, EVERYTHING.

@valeriaproductions 2 года назад

Hard to replace a legend - Rob Halford still rules - Owens had the unenviable task of trying to step into a legend’s shoes - never easy

@jeebusyaweirdo3733 3 года назад

Lol the best part is, your method for teaching from the Bee-gees voice to do this screams is exactly how I started doing it 😂

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Did it work?

@jeebusyaweirdo3733 3 года назад

@@kentamplin definitely, seemed the most rational way of going about it to me. I look at things like a house, can’t do the falsetto screams if you don’t even have the foundation’s of falsetto

@bunglerbox6166 3 года назад

I've this is the live performance,- then Tim has more live "power". Never hear Rob Halford on this hight pitches on stage. Yes, Rob Halford is the heart of Judes priest in my opinion and got always a sing teacher by his side over twenty years.

@KarlKeesel 3 года назад

What do you mean that Rob never have those high pitches on stage?. Rob have a wider range that tim on studio and live, actually tim sings in a lower key than halford, anyway both are amazing singer and i like both

@danielsibley3345 3 года назад

Excellent as always Ken. I love Halford but so appreciate the ripper as well. Nice job on even the fair coverage and opinion.

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Much appreciated!

@korvegott 3 года назад

Rob always wins. But Tim's live preformance of Diamonds and rusts with priest brings a tear too my eyes.

@kattdaddy2112 3 года назад

The thing is that you showed Rob in his prime. When he was in his prime he was untouchable. Now he gets to where he speaks the lyrics instead of singing. I think Ripper did a fine job of taking over for him. He was able to do the live stuff that Rob couldn't anymore.

@markusfreund6961 3 года назад

Tim Owens is a fantastic singer who did the best anyone could have done with what had to be the most thankless assignment in the history of the universe. I know I had a hard time accepting him, for no fault of his own but simply because the idea of anyone replacing Rob Halford seemed like the epitome of heresy. I remember actually tearing up when I learned that Judas Priest were reuniting. In hindsight, younger me was such a fool in so many ways... I am truly happy to learn that Tim got the recognition he so amply deserves.

@kullatnunu6894 3 года назад

One missing question is longevity. Could Owens sing as good if he wasn't "new" to the game and had the same "mileage" as Halford? ;) Both great singers and showmanship. Extra credit to Rob Halford for inventing the style and making it easier for others to follow up and improve on it.

@Stargazer-px7fw 3 года назад

Tim is the Ripper and Rob is the Legend. Ripper killed it (live) in the 90s when Rob was on the page Metal is dead. I saw them live in 1997 with the ripper (was in my early 20s back then 😱) and man, I didn’t miss Rob at all. Love both though ♥️. Great series by the way Ken! Thanks.

@Stargazer-px7fw 3 года назад

Looking forward to K. K. Priest (new band by K. K. Downing) with Tim “The Ripper” on vocals.

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Glad you're enjoying it!

@Joe_Jimenez_official 2 года назад

Very nice video. Thank you!

@BlackbirdSSR 3 года назад

For Tim to be accepted by loyal Judas Priest fans and packing large stadiums says a LOT. Very few singers could pull off replacing a legendary vocalist like he did. No matter what Tim does from this point, he will always have this story to tell his grandkids.....nothing cooler than that! 👍

@KrzysiekOlecha 3 года назад

Really great video, Ken! I've been a huge Priest fans since ages and I do love the Rob 'Metal God' Halford. HOWEVER, if there ever was any signer, who could step into the footsteps of Halford, it could only be HIM, TIM RIPPER OWENS!! In my humble opinion Tim is hell of a metal singer!! Maybe one of the most underrated and underappreciated vocalists! I love all that Ripper recorded with Judas Priest (especially the "Live In London" album!!), with Iced Earth, as well as with Yngwie Malmsteen and now with KK's Priest. He's simply phenomenal, incredible, ass-kicking metal vocalist!! I do respect him and what he did with Priest, because of his skills to sing all of the Priest songs! And in my humble opinion, many songs he was and is able to sing better than Halford did (just take a listen to live versions of "Heading Out To The Highway", "Dessert Plains" or "Turbo Lover" on the a/m "Live In London" CD)!! LONG LIVE THE RIPPER!!

@ny7294 3 года назад

Tim just didn't step into Rob Halfords shoes and kick MUCHO ass , he also stepped into RJDs massive shoes with the Dio Disciples and continued to kick mega ass ... the guy is an amazing talent . In my opinion, he out Robs Rob Halford and takes the vocals to another level

@danielefarotti1061 3 года назад

Very interesting analysis Ken! Thank you!

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@GuitarWithDofka 3 года назад

Halford = Legend He’s singing amazing in Firepower Ripper was the right guy for the job. The 98 live Priest CD with Ripper = 🔥 Great video Ken 👍

@nisse587 Год назад

Forgive me, english is not my first language. I been a priest fan since 1982. You put the words in my mouth, Tim Owens did a really good work, coming from the street replacing the Rob Halford. He did a awesome job. As an old hard rosk fan I find your explanation of the hard work the singer (regardless of band) put in. Thancks.

@sascha294 3 года назад

Love them both. Tim is a beast! The most wanted vocalist in the metal world! Great series. You should do Queensryche, Helloween, Nightwish and Crimson Glory (Astronomica) with Wade Black, Tim Owens' twin scream brother!

@MO-ly1xu 3 года назад

Queensryche is a great idea. Todd is an underrated singer.

@gabrielstern4992 3 года назад

Tim in helloween no but that's another conversation. But there's a connection there considering when kai hansen left helloween of which he was the original vocalist not micheal kiske he formed gamma ray with Ralph sheepers. Who was the other vocalist in contention to replace Rob Halford in priest at the time. And would have been the better choice to me to replace the great Rob Halford. But then again if Ralph had been chosen fans would not have missed Rob Halford so much. Don't Believe me do a you tube search and type in tyran pace and listen to their first album and a song called eye to eye from 1984 which sounds very similar to the priest song you've got another thing coming. As tyran pace was Ralph's bans before he joined gamma ray. Which did 3 albums before breaking up. In 1988

@gabrielstern4992 3 года назад

Sounds like you guys prefer the replacements with the exception of helloween me with queensryche and crimson glory I prefer the original guys Midnight and goeff tate. Regardless of the circumstances. Wade black vs midnight is like apples and oranges. With wade black sounding like a hairband singer. If you want to do a comparison where both the original and replacement were on equal footing metal church was a good example with David Wayne vs Mike Howe. Sadly both are dead now And Ronnie munroe could not match either of them live.

@sascha294 3 года назад

Yeah, Ralf Sheepers is the perfect replacement for Rob Halford.

@gabrielstern4992 3 года назад

@@sascha294 yep at the time he would have been the better choice. As part of the reason he left gamma ray in late 1994 was due to his bieng a top contender to replace Rob Halford in judas priest and this was before Ralph started balding and going with a shaved head. Just like Halford. The proof is also in the 2 covers gamma ray did of priest songs one with kais vocals and one with Ralph's vocals. Primal also did a killer cover of metal gods. But even more proof has to do with the first gamma ray video heading for the east from 1990 ralph was on fire and even sang helloween songs and I hate to say it but sang them better than micheal kiske. Did. Kai also would have at the time sounded better than Tim. But he is a guitar player also so that's why I did not mention him.

@1960taylor 3 года назад

That Bee Gee's moment had me on the floor laughing.....

@davidjuliohernandezgomez 3 года назад

Rob.... he is legend in his style, just like he DIO, thanks ken great video as always

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@firstnameonradio 3 года назад

saw Priest with Ripper at the now defunct Boathouse in Norfolk, VA back in '98 during the Jugulator tour. In-freakin'-credible show. Even remember MTV giving Priest some decent coverage during this time as well, a time in which heavy metal was almost completely unwelcome on that particular station.

@gld291 2 года назад

I have always been a huge fan of Judas Priest. Rob is incredible! This being said, the fact that Tim can fill his shoes, says a lot about his outstanding vocals. I met Tim when he was singing for Yngwie, he is an all around amazing vocalist and a super nice guy.

@evanlongacre4218 3 года назад

I think it’s awesome how much you cover on your channel. From instruction, to demonstration, to analysis, to comparison. It’s neat to see how you not only teach and demonstrate what you teach, but I love how creative you are with these series and the entertainment value they bring. The coolest thing though is definitely your shirt collection being on display. Keep on rocking!

@kentamplin 3 года назад

I really appreciate that Evan!

@MikeWeida 3 года назад

While I have never seen Priest live, I have seen both of these guys on stage. Both are amazing. Just mind blowing!

@billwren5033 3 года назад

Great series bro and this one is amazing. anyone who could step into Robs shoes and be accepted is in itself mind boggling. Ripper is an amazing singer Rob is an Original and I am gonna leave it at that. both guys can wail there asses off. Ripper reminds me of a singer I know Ken Tamplin who got that bigger bottom but can still hit those high notes like they are second nature. You should check out his stuff also. very impressive. curious now that KK downing has his own band KK's Priest how that's going to add to this little story with Ripper on Vocals. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

@cheeneedejesus3537 3 года назад

Tim is such a beast. Loved his work with Iced Earth! Thanks Ken for another great video. Maybe you can do a video analysis about the different vocalists that Yngwie Malmsteen had over the years. 💯

@kentamplin 3 года назад

You bet!

@stevechristie2660 3 года назад

Thanks for another great vid Ken and you are a fantastic singer yourself,love your stuff !

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Thank you kindly!

@craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185 3 года назад

Tim Rippers performance of Diamonds and Rust on the Live 98 Metal Meltdown album was by far one of the best live vocal performances of all time.

@OTCRock4one 3 года назад

Great job Ken as per usual. You can hear Halford had that Lexicon PCM92 pumping with echo and reverb!

@chrissvenningson1747 2 года назад

I have always loved hard rock and metal. What I especially love are the different unique voices that all the bands have. I thought Tim Owen did a tremendous job to fill Rob Halford’s mic, but I would still have to give it to Rob. He’s just so different than anyone else. AC⚡️DC is probably my all time favorite band. Comparing Bon Scott and Brian Johnson is difficult I believe because they are very different but both are great. Bon apparently got a gift to his voice after a motorcycle accident. What I love way more about AC⚡️DC with Bon on the vocals is the whole bluesy dirty rock. It’s just so dirty and sweet. I don’t believe anyone in the world though could replace Brian on the Back in Black album. After Bon’s early demise, I would never have imagined AC⚡️DC would come out with an album so incredibly brilliant as Back in Black where every single song is just absolutely supreme. Another bluesy dirty rock vocalist whom I love is Ronnie Van Zant. He was just a very unique talent. I just recently saw their documentary which was really nice to see and really learn way more about the band of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Ok, I’ll stop writing now 😁

@BrunoidGames 3 года назад

Man.. I would love to see Ralph Scheppers with Judas, just for a moment.

@ScorpionHeatseeker 3 года назад

I saw Tim sing on Judas Priest's Jugulator tour in a small venue. My jaw hit the floor. It was so good, I saw Halford as a solo artist a year later performing some Priest songs during the show and it was awesome. So I like both, but Halford for the win.

@lauramills4226 3 года назад

I found this page by accident and glad to have done so. I've been a Priest fan since 1979 and when they split up, I never listened to the Ripper (believe it or not). This set of videos you presented are the first I'm hearing of him. He has the high notes and do I hear a smidgen of Peter Steele depth in the deep notes? By these videos, he doesn't seem to have as commanding of a stage presence as Rob. Like you said, we like what we grew up with and that makes me choose the original, Rob. Tim Owens is a powerful singer in his own right, but it just wasn't Judas Priest to me when Rob wasn't there. Same thing with Black Sabbath and Dio, good with great songs, but not the same as with Ozzy.

@travisfinnerty156 3 года назад

Rapid Fire from the Live Meltdown concert from 98 is bananas. Ripper sings the entire 2nd verse in head voice and I don’t think Halford ever did that at all. He adds a few things to the song that I don’t believe are in the original, but it works.

@JenkinsCrossing 3 года назад

Best Judas Priest live album. Rob never could’ve sang Rapid Fire, Diamonds and Rust, or Abductors (from Jugulator) like Tim.

@travisfinnerty156 3 года назад

@@JenkinsCrossing same with the choruses of The Sentinel. I actually liked that he did a lot of the songs a half step down than the original keys. Makes some the older tunes sound heavier- The Ripper, Beyond the Realms of Death, The Sentinel, Hellion/Electric Eye come to mind.

@rhoadsmatheson2246 3 года назад

I grew up in the 80's and of course with Judas Priest.. I love Tim the ripper, but I have to go with Rob and his impressive catalog of fantastic metal! Thanks a lot Ken!

@cadeevans4623 3 года назад

I never listened to Judas priest Ken at all I'm not familiar with them Ken they both rock in my opinion both have different styles and different voices different techniques their awesome Judas priest has a killer band awesome with awesome singers they both rock for sure Ken 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

@kentamplin 3 года назад

Rock on!

@cadeevans4623 3 года назад

Sure will Ken

@kalmlykeabomb 3 года назад

You should definitely listen to Judas Priest if you're a metal head at all. Their early bluesy stuff is my favorite but they've been fantastic and constantly evolving ever since the late 60's. Both singers are fantastic but Rob Halford has my vote, and that might just be his charisma and the fact that he's my first experience into Priest.

@cadeevans4623 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing Hunter I'll have to check them out some more hunter

@stevecallrc4640 3 года назад

Hey Ken, well done! I'm a new subscriber and I'm really loving your channel. Keep doing what you're doing and don't change a thing my friend!

@chrismeadows4216 3 года назад

The Ripper is my guy. I've always respected Rob, and acknowledged his incredible range, control, and power, but his tone to me has been cold and sterile and not in my major sweet spot. Tim's work with Iced Earth is some of my favorite stuff ever. As a frontman, Rob is an awesome guy, and I could hear him talk for days. Tim is a master in the other ways, though. I really can't iterate enough how much I appreciate him.

@andreyvargasbermudez4291 2 года назад

Great Versus! People are always so nostalgic and they do not think logically about this type of comparisons. I would also add to the Equation: Time Period, Tim arrived in the mids 90s when nobody gives nothing to 80s metal and he pull the band off through that decade. Rob re-entered the band in the mid 2000s when Metal was actually returning to its prime. So, that generational change also matters.

@Ascended_Uriel 2 года назад

I've seen Priest live with both and Halford solo band. I'm giving Halford the thumbs up here. His band Halford was unbelievable live and he crushed it. Dino J is my favorite singer nowadays

@macheted01 Год назад

Rob being the original, will always hands down be the Metal God and my first pick. However, Ripper on Live In London holds some of my favorite version of Judas Priest songs, such as Desert Plains, and Green Manalishi.

@Nissardpertugiu 3 года назад

Even he can do it but the difference with Halford , Tim is doing thoses songs 1 step lower. Priest was tuned in D and C# in that era . Halford was in E stand . I don't think he s doing it " better ". Don't forget Rob is just 17 years older than Tim

@brian0057 3 года назад

Tim, right now, is the same age as Halford was when he recorded Angel of Retribution. Ripper Owens sounds leagues better than Rob did when he had Tim's age. In 2021, I'd rather listen Tim sing live than Halford, even when down tuned. I love Firepower. Probably the best Priest album since Painkiller, but of the two, Owens' voice has aged the best.

@weefy117 3 года назад

Priest down tuned their guitars because they wanted a heavier sound, not because ripper couldnt hit the notes. Ripper owens had no problem hitting the notes for the tribute band he was in