Judo for ADULTS in Japan.

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Hong Nguyen, 45 years old, Judo Black Belt, Bjj Blue Belt, Life Long Martial Artist and now a Yogi as well. This channel is dedicated to fitness for Judo and martial arts, for older guys.
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@aymanabaza6475 4 года назад

In the in US adults and kids are separated. Our classes are 2 hours long and we spend 50% throws/Tachi Waza and 50% ground work/NeWaza. I'm 58 years old and a few others are my age and we go hard and most people will be surprised how fast we are at this age and this is why I love Judo it really keeps us older guys tough and in good shape

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

58 and still practicing, i love hearing that brotha! Inspiring

@sonychiba4733 2 года назад

2 hours long? That seems excessive how many days a week do you train?

@Thebirdwolf 4 года назад

You're making me want to start judo. I've never done any martial arts but I want to now. I always thought I was too old but I'm going to try anyways.

@cthulhu-jitsu7404 4 года назад

This is the same in Germany too, and maybe even a little more extreme. I've been in "Adult" Judo classes where the first half was spent playing football as a warm up. Personally, I think the key to keeping adults in Judo is really simple, treat adults like adults. We're not there because our parents need a baby sitter, we're not there because we have nothing better to do. No one wants a guru, no one feels like getting barked at because we had a late meeting at work and couldn't get there on time, no one wants to do body building for an hour. We're there to learn Judo, so let us do judo.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

i feel the same way, i hate playing football as a warm up, first off i don't care for it, second the risk of hurting my already injured knees doing something i dont give a fuck about is just retarded to me. I believe in warming up by practicing actual movements that are specific to what im about to do, meaning Judo. Not only these movements serve as warm up but as skill development also. Osu!

@cthulhu-jitsu7404 4 года назад

@@OGFITNESS Ditto. I think most of this comes from Trainers just not bothering to spend time planning their class, so they just have people play football because it's easier for them. To which I always respond that if the Trainer doesn't feel like teaching the class, he should let someone else do it who is actually interested in the job. Oss!

@DrSSC243 3 года назад

I live in Tokyo Japan and do judo regularly. What you describe exists but it’s not the norm. In some clubs the training is the same for kids and older guys. In some clubs we do three hours newaza non stop. At the kodokan after warmup you randori for an hour. There are also classes for older guys who want to get a black belt. Oh and in Japan we never stop competing...some people compete till the age of 80. Thanks for your video.

@OGFITNESS 3 года назад

Interesting, i'm not surprise regarding different class structures at different clubs or even at the same club. Never stop competing? wow, love that, i don't plan on ever stopping really.

@DrSSC243 3 года назад

@@OGFITNESS Keep up the good work. We had our first Kodokan a few days ago and we will have another one in a month. Yay!

@oliverreno4734 2 года назад

In all honesty, switching to BJJ and putting Judo on the back burner saved my martial arts training. After 10 years of Judo and a couple of bad knee and finger injuries (plus elbow tendonitis), I just couldn't face being thrown 100-200 times a day anymore. BJJ gave me a really amazing respite that has somewhat allowed my body to recover from all the years of being slammed. My Judo school pretty much avoided most newaza training other than the basics. I will always consider myself a judoka, and always have my tachiwaza to fall back on, but I have to face the reality of what my body is capable of. Steve Maxwell said it best; for most people I just don't think Judo is really sustainable training 6 days a week past the age of 30.

@goswo 3 года назад

“The more randori” the better you develop... Nope. If you technique is not perfected, in all aspects, and you get to quick into fight, then many very often become muscle fighters. If your technique is at your personal highest level, then for sure randori is good. There is a reason why Japan fosters so many good judo ka’s, that are amazing to watch, because of crazy many hours of technique perfection. So if timing is not right, randori can for sure kill good Judo. That what 40 years with Judo has tought me :-)

@digitaldaemon74 2 года назад

Kano had a vision man! Can you imagine if everyone was engaged with a sport that has a code of ethics what society would be like?

@tronbonn Год назад

The fact that I’m starting my Judo journey at the same age you did gives me hope, subbed my guy! Thank you for this!

@tronbonn Год назад

Thanks for this! I started at 36 also on the west coast. Been difficult but I’m sticking to it and love it. This video helped inspire me after a long work day to show up late to class and get mat time in!

@gianttigerfilms 2 года назад

I’m from the USA and it sounds similar to Japan, we warm up side by side with the kids for 15 min then separate and kids practice falls and adults warm up with mat work or grips. We’ll spend a lot of time doing uchi komis, moving throws, and combinations. Then spend the last 15/20 min of Randori, sometimes sparring the kids lightly

@robinenman6812 3 года назад

At our club teen/adult class is 1.5hrs.... approximately- 10 min warmup, 10min uchicomi n movement, 10 min gripfighting, 5 min forward throws, 5 min rear throws, 5 min moving fav throws, 5 min combo throws, 10 min technical, 3 rounds of 3 min newaza randori, 10 min ground game & 10 mn standip game... of course depends on time of season - if competition is near more randori... if kinda downtime we have 20 min block to review syllabus as a group of 4.

@chandlerkirkland475 4 года назад

The Japanese class structure is really neat. And being shown new moves at the end of class is cool because you can drill it on your own at home, meditate on it then come back and utilize the principles for that technique for nearly an hour and a half of mat time. It’s no wonder they do so well in international competition, they are getting way more mat time! And that seems really fun.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

Yeah man, thats the type of strucutre i enjoy, tons of mat time and coaches helping u out here and there, perfecting on technique at a time.

@Docinaplane 4 года назад

I'm really glad your channel is growing! I agree, "randori" is the way to learn the most the fastest. As a striker, I always spar more than anything else in training, taking appropriate precautions, of course.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

Hey Doc! Yeah its a great feeling, confidence booster for sure. Thanks for being there. Hey i got a buddy who moved down to florida, gives me an excuse to go down there at one point, as soon as i get my pardon in 2021, hopefully this pandemic is over by then.

@Docinaplane 4 года назад

@@OGFITNESS Please let me know what your travel plans are if you decide to come this way.

@daryldaniels4860 4 года назад

My Sensei used to mix it up. Some classes would be very physical emphasizing a lot on fitness. Then another class will focus solely on groundwork. Then another class will focus solely on 1 technique and it's variations.

@atkojak 3 года назад

I get why we have to warm up some first but then we do falling and it’s hard to fall right as a beginner because then we are out of breath. Hopefully I’ll get in good enough shape to have that not be an issue but post covid most of us are probably out of shape.

@junioravila853 4 года назад

The funny thing is that I literally read the same article just yesterday, and now I'm in your video, what a coincidence.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

there are no coincidences, lol, but thats cool, so u know exactly what im talking about.

@robustsauce3349 Год назад

That's interesting. My Judo club in USA (Tennessee) is actually more similar to Japan than France/Canada, but kinda a combination of both. We do about 15 mins of warm up consisting of stretching and break falls, and then we go into 2 or 3 5 min rounds of newaza. After is a short break then one of the instructors shows a technique. Usually a stand-up technique but sometimes a ground pin or submission. Then we do a few rounds of Randori for people that want to.

@OGFITNESS Год назад

Thats sounds perfect. I like that formula, and i think it can be great for beginners as well, id stucture my clasee that way if ever i had to give one.

@PeterJames143 3 года назад

I've been to a lot of bjj schools partly because my work has me moving around the country and wherever I go I usually try all the local schools. Different schools do bjj classes differently. Normally as you know there's a warmup then the instructor teaches a technique, we try it, he teaches a following technique, we try it, and maybe like this he does four or five related techniques. Then usually there's rolling. But some schools just skip the warmup, they have a 30 second warmup then they jump into techniques. Some schools seem like they are aimed at older professionals and they don't really do the warmup, they just jump into techniques--but the people seem a little bit stiffer because they don't have the same background of shrimps and forward rolls and so on. Wow that Japanese model sounds really awesome thank you for describing it. Anyway definitely you can decide for yourself how is the best way to do these classes, there's no need to stick to the same script as everybody else. Thanks a lot for this.

@henrikg1388 4 года назад

I think that the Kosen Judo rules actually afford an Ippon for two consecutive Ippon throws. However, this rarely happens since you are allowed to pull guard and have unlimited time on the ground. But there is also a sort of misconception that Kosen is a separate style, which it is really not. There are no Kosen schools or such outside University. But the competition format is also a bit special. You start with ten guys on each team and each member continue to fight opponents until he lose. So the team with the last man standing wins. Correct me if I am wrong.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

im no rule expert in kosen but that sounds about right to me. Kosen is closer to what judo was in the past, in terms of being able to grab the legs and having ample time on the ground. I started judo 4-5 years ago so im used to the whole dont grab legs rules and shit like dont break the kumi kata with both hands. But hey, it is what it is, i still love it.

@henrikg1388 4 года назад

@@OGFITNESS I started judo 30 years ago, but abandoned it after 3-4 years to concentrate full time on Muay Thai/Kickboxing. Got back later to train for exercise though. Back then we had ample time on the ground and pretty much no restrictions except avoiding small joint and leg locks. We were allowed to attack the legs and it happened now and then, but I have to be honest and admit that nobody had a Morote-Gari on the level of a free-style wrestler double-leg. But in Europe it was 90% Greco-Roman, so we were never exposed to it from wrestlers either. But back then Judo was fun. We learned the basic techniques of course, but when you got to a certain level, it was in randori we figured out our own specialties and transitions. You read books, watched VHS tapes, saw what others did in tournaments and you tried to apply it with your own twist, on the feet, the ground or in transition. It was open-ended in a way that bjj seems to be today. My own favourite tachi-waza surprise, was a crazy version of a standing kimura, that would disqualify me right away in today's rules. I was never a very good thrower, I was just good enough to go to the ground and pin or submit in those competitions I won. Now before COVID, I started to take my son to bjj because there are no judo clubs around anymore. And I have to say that I don't really like it. There is just to much Macho in the air. The atmosphere is not nearly as friendly as judo was. And why the hell start by teaching five year-olds triangles and arm bars from the guard? The kids are supposed to have a little fun. Why not breakfalls, o-soto-gari and kesa-gatame. They would enjoy that a lot more, and it would also teach them the necessary agility at an early age that is necessary for later improvements. Not saying that they shouldn't learn submissions at all, but start in the right order.

@docteurpikachu6913 Год назад

That does sound like an interesting and advanced way to train. I feel that as adults, we don’t need a super duper organized structured format to train. As you said, adults have more responsibilities and therefore can’t adapt to a strict “class format” as much. This hands-off approach would cut most bullshit I think. In BJJ or judo, sometimes the teachers can ramble on and on while demonstrating techniques and it honestly feels like too much a lot of times. Whereas a more guided “open mat” might use the responsibility of adults to reinforce the session. I feel this would create more retention of advanced practitioners across the board. Honestly, what black belt judoka wants to work on an uchimata entry he’s rehashed 1000 times already, or an arm bar from guard for a bjj purple belt? No thanks, let’s just get to the workout and let’s cut the slack.

@OGFITNESS 9 месяцев назад

Exactly, once you get to a certain level you know what you need and want to work on, you just need some guidance/advice here and there but you dont need to be held by the hand at all.

@jhonnyrodriguez3198 2 года назад

My favorite channel right now.

@OGFITNESS 2 года назад

No way! Really? Thanks for the support brother! Osu!🙏🙇‍♂️🥋

@jhonnyrodriguez3198 2 года назад

@@OGFITNESS yes Sir. Am 41 and I train BJJ at 10th planet Allentown (Pennsylvania), love your content. I also wish to study judo someday if I can. Great work brother

@aleksandarkondic4650 4 года назад

Thanks for the great content!

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

hey thanks for watching and supporting.

@hermannvalsson4237 2 года назад

Thank you for your good video about old Judokas. Threr is a big talk about shime wasa strangle for Judokas of 35 and older and the vig numbers who have got stroke during strangles. What can you tell my about that. I have heared from Sweden that around 120 Judokas have got strok during the last 10 years and died. Can you comment one that and that Kodacon in Japan know about this. Regards Hermann in Iceland.

@Christopher_Boyd 4 года назад

Rough class structure for me: 15 minutes dynamic warm up to improve circulation and elasticity (high knees, skipping, breakfalls, shoulder rolls, high step lunge, sweeps...) 15 minute conditioning circuits (band uchi comi, dummy throws, partner throws, shoulder rollers diving over hurdles...think HIIT) 15 minute 1-2 ne waza concept/technique education and drilling it with partners. 15 minute live grappling 15 minute uchi comi with partner 15 minute 1-2 stand up combination/countering education with partner drills. 15 minutes live randori. 15 minutes solo/partner stretching, foam rolling and recovery activities. Roughly 2 hours and of course flexible depending on what you want to focus on. I prefer to focus on injury prevention and recovery while still sweating and kicking my butt during class.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

nice, i like it cuz its sustainable.

@Globalnomadsj 4 года назад

Great stuff buddy!

@ScopeFater 4 года назад

Thank you for your videos man they're great. I've been looking a lot into judo recently, my main focus is to incorporate takedowns to my bjj (both gi and no gi) and also self defense. I'm starting to hesitate a lot between judo and wrestling (especially for self defense). I feel like judo throws take a lot of time to get a hold in comparison to wrestling, what's your opinion on this

@Karen-fs6lf 4 года назад

You learn to control person on the ground at yellow belt comparing bjj and judo before learning subs

@Karen-fs6lf 4 года назад

Mad lov for your Channel

@robinenman6812 3 года назад

The game u mentioned is called “piggy”

@OGFITNESS 3 года назад

yup, i know that now, lol, been back at it for a bit at the club :)

@Grinfas 3 года назад

Got into Judo cuz of this guy!👍🏻🤘🏻🤙🏻💯

@ValentineLogan Год назад

Hi, I am an OG based in Japan and looking for a Judo club which does newaza in either Tokyo or Chiba. You mentioned an acquaintance training in Japan - do you know where the dojo was or do you know how I can get a list of dojos?

@OGFITNESS Год назад

Let me reach out to him to see where exactly he’s at.

@OGFITNESS Год назад

Reached out to him, well see if he answers🤷‍♂️

@ValentineLogan Год назад

@@OGFITNESS Thank you. Also keep up the good work, inspiring to see a fellow OG not using age to make the excuse to be physically lazy!

@maksymbizarreadventure7198 4 года назад

Could you link the article in your description ?

@thomashobbes7429 Год назад

If you live in Japan how much to train as an adult and how much per kid?

@OGFITNESS Год назад

Dont know

@newtypehuman 4 года назад

Are you blue belt or purple belt in bjj ?

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

Blue, but from what my first Bjj coach and my current Judo coach tells me, im easily at a purplle belt level.

@WilliamFlores-gp5uh 4 года назад

Hello my brother I have a question . do believe thank it is possible for a person who is 60 and above can safely practice Judo !

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

i believe anything is possible, but they would have to ease into it with caution, everyone is different in regards to conditioning levels, injury history, medical issues,etc.. I would recommend talking and getting the green light from your doctor and physiotherapist. The judo training would have to have an adaptive and progressive approach that is tailored to your needs. Hope that makes senses.

@DietVionis 4 года назад

Hello my friend..I really like your channel because I am in the same position as you were..I am 40 white belt bjj (just before blue) and orange in judo..the think is that I really cannot follow both..it's really mesy..and I don't know what to do..I would like your opinion..I am thinking on focusing on judo till black belt and then maybe to return to jiuzitsu if I want

@DietVionis 4 года назад

I forgot to say I am from Greece.. and my name is padelis🙂

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

@@DietVionis Padelis from Greece! Awesome! If you are in decent shape then i recommend Judo, there is ground work in Judo so you'll all ready have a base. Judo is harder on the body and takes more time to learn so while your still "young", learn Judo first so the transition will be easier for you. Easier from Judo to bjj then the reverse. Thx for watching brother!

@DietVionis 4 года назад

@@OGFITNESS thank u very much for your answer and I am watching you everyday..oss!!!🙂🙂☝️👆..I will stick with judo..I am 97 kilos 175cm but working out with weights since I was 17.

@ken2000X 4 года назад

You’re 41?!

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

yup 1979

@ken2000X 4 года назад

O.G. FITNESS Damn, those are some good genes.

@martiallife4136 4 года назад

You get chewed out? Never happens at my school.

@OGFITNESS 4 года назад

Yeah , my coach chews me out, nothing extreme, just yelling my name and tells me "ur Late!!!" and when i tell him i was working, he replies "so do we all". lol, i learned to just ignore him and not take it personal , he earned the right to bust my balls, he's done so much for me.