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Juggernaut Anatomy Explored - Is He Not A Mutant? Why Does He Wear That Absurd Armor Suit? & More! 

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Juggernaut Anatomy Explored - Why Is He Not A Mutant But Still Have These Powers? What Creature is He?
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@caramel7149
@caramel7149 Год назад
I like Juggernaught's goofy helmet, it's like he just grabbed a vault door, pulled off a hunk and bent it into shape. smooshing the parts together aggressively with enough force to weld it.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
In the comics when he lost it after a fight, he shaped a huge chunk of metal using some of the residual powers from Cytorak to shape the metal as he crushes it down
@TheOriginalMasterOogway
@TheOriginalMasterOogway Год назад
If it works then it doesn't matter
@braveryatitsfinest1569
@braveryatitsfinest1569 Год назад
​@@TheOriginalMasterOogway Still looks dumb
@AnalGravey
@AnalGravey Год назад
Mabey "smooth out" the rough edges with the power if his finger print grinding against the metal surface to help further prove his strength?
@Brunothechillman
@Brunothechillman Год назад
he looks like a dude with a butt cheek shaped helmet
@NoJusticeNoPeace
@NoJusticeNoPeace Год назад
What you didn't mention is that Cyttorak required Juggernaut to destroy constantly. The longer Juggernaut goes without destroying something, the weaker he gets. If he were to go long enough without causing devastation, Cyttorak would take away his status as avatar entirely.
@jamesstarter
@jamesstarter Год назад
The same can be said about anyone’s muscles. The more you dont work them the weaker they get and you have to work harder every time
@IamVendel
@IamVendel Год назад
Probably didn't mention it because it has never been part of his lore. Unless it's some nonsense they made up in the last few years. But the standards at Marvel have fallen like a rock over the last decade. So it wouldn't shock me.
@soldier-qb1dm
@soldier-qb1dm Год назад
​@@IamVendel thats basically the state he was in when world breaker hulk ce back to earth he eventually got his powers back just to fight hulk to a standstill
@chrisc5334
@chrisc5334 Год назад
@@IamVendel it was part of the lore 20 years ago when I was a kid. I have a few of the comics from the run that explains it
@KoujiIsAmazing
@KoujiIsAmazing Год назад
You haven’t read his current events?
@zichithefox4781
@zichithefox4781 11 месяцев назад
I remember I used to think he was a mutant whose ability was infinite momentum. Which is admittedly cooler in my opinion, and not technically wrong, since his powers are described as "Once he starts moving, he can't be stopped." He's an underappreciated character and a staple in Marvel comics. .
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I remember them describing it like that in an early comic, it's always cool when they make the power some sort of existential idea
@Azimii
@Azimii 10 месяцев назад
i believe they listed this in the marvel encyclopedia. the blob was also listed to have the ability to never be moved when he sat down
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 10 месяцев назад
One of my favorites in marvel but I have a soft spot for juggernaut rhino hulk and similar characters they're pretty cool
@jon9550
@jon9550 10 месяцев назад
I dunno, I think it works better that his powers come from magic. Marvel got really weird with the kinds of powers characters could develop through mutation. Fast healing? Fine. Telepathy? Fine. Growing bird wings or devolving into a blue furred ape creature or a human with reptilian characteristics? Ok. Laser eyes? Eh. Magnetism? Eh. Weather control? Eh. Charging items with explosive force? Huh? In order for a mutation to give a human an evolutionary advantage the genes for the mutation need to already exist, and then find conditions that favor them in an evolutionary way. There was never a gene for laser eyes, and in fact that trait would make you less survivable from an evolutionary standpoint as you can't pass on your genes easily. The same would be true for "infinite momentum" as you would crush or tear apart any sexual partners you interact with. I know powers are picked mainly for their "cool factor" and comics are all fantasy anyway, but the kinds of things Marvel attributes to mutation are often just silly. It is better to have a magical reason for people to gain powers like interaction with an Infinity Stone or something because then you don't really to explain it.
@zichithefox4781
@zichithefox4781 10 месяцев назад
@@jon9550 Comics have done a lot to explain where powers and abilities come from. Both Marvel and DC. I just enjoy the ride mostly.
@bizznick444joe7
@bizznick444joe7 Год назад
I do believe since Juggernaut's powers is mystical when he fully embraces it he can do practically anything. There has been other Juggernauts out there and they've done other special things too which means the power can go way beyond just being super strong and durable.
@brandonspringfield2861
@brandonspringfield2861 Год назад
Trion juggs is damn near unstoppable
@Nanobits
@Nanobits Год назад
Juggernaut got all his powers from Magic. There is a reason why in the movie it was wrong that he could be held captive with the same tech than mutants were held down with. Juggernaut should have been immune to this because his powers came from magic.
@fightthepowerman
@fightthepowerman Год назад
My head cannon disagrees. My theory is that Vinnie Jones exists in their universe and just happens to be a mutant with super strength. The real jugganaut pays him in stout and jellied eels to take the fall.
@fightthepowerman
@fightthepowerman 11 месяцев назад
@Super Mario Hey, thanks man, good to know you thought it was cool
@pinkemoslayer6337
@pinkemoslayer6337 11 месяцев назад
​@@SvperMariowow dude, I agree. It was indeed a cool story. 😁
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 11 месяцев назад
That's way too OP like how do you make a story around that for movies?
@fightthepowerman
@fightthepowerman 11 месяцев назад
@@Byronic19134 Movies? I thought this was TV. Even if not.... Wasn't the biggest film of 2019 about a guy who killed half of life in the galaxy? "Too OP" is also pretty much necessary when you have 1 bad guy facing off against a whole group. Almost any concept can be done badly or can be done well. Its all in the execution.
@morallybankrupt1461
@morallybankrupt1461 Год назад
I always wish that juggernaut would become a herald of Galactus. Just imagine how insane that would be!
@jimbo1278
@jimbo1278 Год назад
could he be controlled by Galactus? Siterac's majic is incredibly powerfull so id suspect that even Galactus couldnt control him. just speculation though
@davidencoification
@davidencoification Год назад
@@jimbo1278 I'm 100% sure that Cyttorak would not let Juggernaut get imbued with the Power Cosmic and be another entities Herald. He would ditch Cain Marko and take away his powers for even trying to answer to someone else.
@kiwigaming09
@kiwigaming09 Год назад
​@@davidencoification I think that may have happened before I think Cain managed to get new powers from a different God but then Colossus and his sister magik told cytorrak and then cytorrak gave Colossus the powers of the juggernaut to beat Cain
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
​​​@@davidencoification he did get imbued with the power cosmic to fix the damage he caused during his original rampage against Spiderman, another entity gave him the power cosmic and directed him to fix the damage he'd caused to the earth, the original Spiderman fight was included in the spiderman gauntlet collection they showed in the video, as is the power cosmic issue where Juggy gets imbued with the power cosmic
@HipHopNerdHarryGusto
@HipHopNerdHarryGusto Год назад
Ghost Rider powers would be dope too. A giant with a flaming head running around ? lol lots of fun.
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 9 месяцев назад
Juggernaut is in many ways like a mystically powered Hulk. Juggernaut is a living avatar of Cyttorak, a Demon Lord of Destruction and Chaos, and much like Hulk he gets stronger as his rage increases (thus creating more chaos and destruction to feed Cyttorak). Unfortunately for the Demon Lord, and fortunately for Humanity, Cain Marko is a pretty laid back guy and tends to resist the chaos that the power usually evokes. That's good for Cain too, as while theoretically the Juggernaut is immortal the more the Avatar gives into the Chaos the more they burn themselves out or becomes just mindless killing machines
@krisbrag87
@krisbrag87 9 месяцев назад
Dimmed version of hulk then
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 4 месяца назад
Hulk is mystically powered as well.
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 4 месяца назад
@@draco_1876 No, Hulk's power is based on Science. Weird comic book Science but Science nonetheless.
@Mayan_88694
@Mayan_88694 4 месяца назад
@@FerretJohnno it isn’t, the Hulk is a creation of the one below all, the devil of the marvel multiverse, it’s not scientific at all.
@Mayan_88694
@Mayan_88694 4 месяца назад
@@FerretJohnnot at all, the Hulk is a creation of the one below all, the devil of the marvel multiverse, his powers are not scientific at all. You re factually wrong pal.
@ProtonCannon
@ProtonCannon 10 месяцев назад
Actually I think Jug is one of those characters that no longer defined by his powers. Cain Marko the person behind Jug has grown way past of being a incredibly powerful but an angry stupid brute. He has seen plenty of hardship and has reformed to be a hero more than once. He has completely lost his powers and was scorned by Cyttorak more than once, he suffered humiliation and even torture at the hands of Cytorrak and others. At one of his lowest points when he was powerless, battered, broken and in hospital and needed help the most, even then his own brother Xavier didn't want to help him anymore. Yet even after that when he had nothing left, no powers, no family he realized the error of his ways and yet still did not give up he believed that he must try to right the wrong he had done and do what he could.
@hansolo631
@hansolo631 2 месяца назад
Am I crazy or did Onslaught not completely trash him? I remember as a kid, onslaught just plucking the gem out and professor x's part of onslaught taking great glee in it
@ProtonCannon
@ProtonCannon 2 месяца назад
@@hansolo631 You might correct. As far as I could find there were 2 major events when Jug and Onslaught faced off. (could be more but I couldn't find more) First time it was Uncanny X-Men (1963) #322 when Onslaught was first introduced as a character. The comic showed That Jug's body was "hurled" from Canada to New Jersey. It is unspecified if it was a punch or some other method. Jug was KO'd for a short while, he recovered in a shortly but the story mentions Jug was still weakened because Beast, Bishop and Psylocke managed to almost KO Jug again and otherwise Jug would barely feel their attack. Jug accepted defeat as he was terrified of Onslaught and warned everyone about the danger. Second time was X-Men (1991) Issue #54. In this scene Cain Marko was called by Jean to find out Onslaught's true identity because it was hidden in his mind. Note that Jug wasn't wearing his helmet in this entire comic to allow Jean to enter his mind. Just at the moment they find out it was Xavier Onslaught awakens or possibly just reveals himself from hiding. Jean tells Jug that he is in grave danger and needs to run. Jug however on the way out Cain decided to help his brother but the Xavier Mansion rooms and stairs seems to being to warp around him, we do not know if this was psychic attack or reality warping. Jug goes to Xavier's room saying that he is sorry for everything he had done and he wants to save Xavier but only find Xavier's room trashed and Xavier gone. Then Onsalught's hand grabs Jug from behind and holds him up taunting him that he can't kill Jug as long as he has the gem of Cyttorak and so Onslaught uses his power to rip the gem out of Cain Marko, Marko was visibly in great pain in the process and then Onslaught simply dropped Marko's body body to the ground who was still alive but still in pain and the comic ends there. It is not shown what happened to the gem nor Cain Marko afterwards. After Onslaught gets defeated there is a lot reality warping happen that returns the devastated world back to normal so we can only speculate that Jug was also returned to normal after that. That is all I could find.
@hansolo631
@hansolo631 2 месяца назад
Yea I remember those. I think the second one was drawn by Joe Maduira because I remember Jean looking really anime-sexy. I also think having him be defeated by Onslaught so easily is a bit of a jobbernaught showing, but maybe Onslaught is alot more powerful than I think he was@@ProtonCannon
@ProtonCannon
@ProtonCannon 2 месяца назад
@@hansolo631 Yeah ,it was a jobbernaut role. If we really must speculate then think there might be something with the detail that Cain Marko and Charles Xavier are half-brothers. Maybe that had a role to play in it Or that Jug knew that psionic/psychic attacks are his greatest weakness and he faced this overpowering otherworldly horror that was a purely psychic entity which clearly terrified Jug. This is why I usually consider that superpowers are not just basic math like 1 + 1 = 2 It is better to have many nuance to them, characters have weaknesses and strengths there are plot circumstances and so on. This is why comics need good writing.
@jamesyates3383
@jamesyates3383 Год назад
He wears the helmet because it block psychic attacks which would be his only vulnerability. It was designed by his partner Black Tom Cassidy who is a mutant and cousin to Banshee aka Sean Cassidy and Sean's daughter Theresa Cassidy aka Syrin who's mutant powers are just like her father Banshee.
@manitolas
@manitolas Год назад
😀🤟
@izzycrybaby1164
@izzycrybaby1164 Год назад
I was going to say this about the helmet, but since you already did I will just add that it's worth noting that Juggernaut is Professor Xavier's step-brother. In case anyone is thinking his helmet just randomly has that property.
@connork1657
@connork1657 Год назад
@@izzycrybaby1164 did u not watch the video he said all this?
@eddiedelreal4792
@eddiedelreal4792 Год назад
I would just poke him in the eye.
@LouisBilodeau-eh7rx
@LouisBilodeau-eh7rx Год назад
Not to mention it comes in handy when you are trying to bash through a wall
@RocKnight11
@RocKnight11 Год назад
I'm quite surprised Marvel Comics never explored the other Exemplars that Juggernaut is related to, such as Bedlam, Carnivore, Inferno, Tempest, Stonecutter, Conquest, and Decay.
@williamgriffith699
@williamgriffith699 Год назад
Decay was in the ghost rider sequel but he had a different back story.
@kristopherhirabara6167
@kristopherhirabara6167 Год назад
Have a tournament fight movie with the 8 representatives that would be a marvel movie I would want to see
@MistahBryan
@MistahBryan Год назад
@@kristopherhirabara6167 Maybe a new "phase" of MCU, tell the entire story of the Exemplars. I don't know of any official comics, so this'd be a way to show it.
@kristopherhirabara6167
@kristopherhirabara6167 Год назад
I doubt it would happen, even though the whole cinematic universe is just whoreing out any hero that joins a group, and technically the octessence is a group, if Disney didn’t own marvel then maaaybe but I can’t picture Disney doing a movie about 8 demon lords or what ever they are lol especially now that the leftists and “woke” jagoffs turned america into a giant anemic vagina
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
@@MistahBryan it's okay, judging by the rest of the MCU, the comics would have almost nothing to do with it😂
@andreboyd8596
@andreboyd8596 Год назад
That's why Juggernaut needs his own movie A lot of people think that he's a mutant and he's not he's the step brother of Charles Xavier because he's one of their biggest arch-nemesis next to Magneto I think it would be a great movie
@chrlpolk
@chrlpolk 8 месяцев назад
That’s Jug in the comics. It’s pretty much established now that the movie Jug is a mutant.
@bizznick444joe7
@bizznick444joe7 4 месяца назад
His movie following his teenager self to further.
@skeetermagee2487
@skeetermagee2487 Месяц назад
It be the best thing ever lol
@A1lwayright-tc5ot
@A1lwayright-tc5ot 12 дней назад
Do you think that the Juggernaut and the Hulk have bad breath
@MendariusMitchell
@MendariusMitchell Год назад
He needs his own origin movie already 🙏🏿
@itsvox4398
@itsvox4398 6 месяцев назад
Not everyone needs a movie
@vamountainman2512
@vamountainman2512 3 месяца назад
It would have a black female lead and they would poop all over the comic book version of the origin as usual.
@Alecfisher01
@Alecfisher01 2 месяца назад
@@vamountainman2512love how you racist type call yourselves out like that.
@ItsOkay-og3wk
@ItsOkay-og3wk 15 дней назад
​@@itsvox4398 you are right. But sometimes it's amazing
@donjoel6754
@donjoel6754 Год назад
Always loved this character ever since I was a kid. The Unstoppable Juggernaut such a cool name and powers to boot.
@dariynfleming5415
@dariynfleming5415 Год назад
The Unstoppable part is from the gem of Cytorak. Colossus also has been a herald of Cytorak, and was known as the Unstoppable Colossus. Once you are chosen by Cytorak you get Unstoppable added to your name 😂
@donjoel6754
@donjoel6754 Год назад
@@dariynfleming5415 oh cool. Thanks for the fact man.👍🏾
@afrikasmith1049
@afrikasmith1049 Год назад
Juggernaut is one of the best well written characters in the 90s X Men cartoon.
@MrThis777
@MrThis777 3 месяца назад
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours, and this was really well explained. Deep dive research & clear explanation makes for a great vid. 👍
@confusedbakugo1373
@confusedbakugo1373 Год назад
These videos are so good! For people like me who can't read tons of comic books, these vids are fun and answer many questions regarding these characters. Great job!
@tekkamanviper2783
@tekkamanviper2783 Год назад
he's almost invincible and can never tire, grow old, die of hunger, breath under water, fast regenerative healing, plus his powers were greatly increased so that makes him a feared threat opponent in the marvel universe
@lukegeekwalker2689
@lukegeekwalker2689 Год назад
Writers are stupid …too much
@asniffer6532
@asniffer6532 Год назад
True. Unfortunately, most of the times we see him being downgraded so he can take an ass beating by the xmen and such. If they did him good, not even Hulk would stand a chance.
@tekkamanviper2783
@tekkamanviper2783 Год назад
@@asniffer6532 agreed, and they did the same thing with Thanos which was a major disappointment because he really didn't use the Infinity Gems to it's full potential like in the comics, now that would have been something to see, and juggernaut has been a major disappointment nonstop when it comes to him being on the big screen...
@westside9032
@westside9032 Год назад
@@tekkamanviper2783 thanos doesn’t even need the gems matter of fact most of the time in the comics he barely even have the gems he just uses his own powers and physical strength
@tekkamanviper2783
@tekkamanviper2783 Год назад
@@westside9032 and thats how marvel dumbed him down just like hulk, i have respect the rufalo but if edward norton wouldnt have been a dumbass to work with, he would have made a better hulk for the avengers...
@clockworkmouse8469
@clockworkmouse8469 Год назад
An other weakness the Juggernaut has is when he has too much momentum he has difficulty stopping or changing direction. So a lot of the time people just step out of the way. It can get so bad he can run himself into space lol. This also means if you get him spinning on the spot, he can get dizzy and pass out. Hulk uses this to beat him
@arthas640
@arthas640 Год назад
reminds me of my rottweiler. She could run as fast as taller, sleeker dogs like husky's and german shepards but couldnt stop or turn. She's got the grace and agility of a runaway freight train so when playing with other dogs they'd stop or turn and she'd go flying past them. One time she ran face first through a wood fence and left a hole in it like a Looney Tune
@andrewmcbain4119
@andrewmcbain4119 11 месяцев назад
Immune to almost anything, but can succumb to dizziness. 😶
@clockworkmouse8469
@clockworkmouse8469 11 месяцев назад
I know, it's like if he trips over, does he go through the planet and out the other side? Or can he run on water?
@God_Help_Us_AII
@God_Help_Us_AII 10 месяцев назад
He also has a hard time with Gladiator 💪😉
@bizznick444joe7
@bizznick444joe7 4 месяца назад
So you're saying the INCREDIBLE HULK actually avoids fighting someone? That means that someone is insanely powerful.
@Chopppaa7_
@Chopppaa7_ 11 месяцев назад
The Juggernaut Vs Thanos would be Epic 🫡🦏👀
@dmareebradley5646
@dmareebradley5646 11 месяцев назад
He needs his own movie, I’ve never been interested in the juggernaut until now
@playonesong5430
@playonesong5430 9 месяцев назад
True. A very interesting character. But how to take him seriously now after Deadpool?
@randomeldenringclips3998
@randomeldenringclips3998 3 месяца назад
@@playonesong5430Deadpool is what made me like him.. “I’m gonna rip you in half now”
@-m.d.n-9019
@-m.d.n-9019 Год назад
Glad that The Juggernaut is getting the recognition and respect he deserves.
@WisdomKU
@WisdomKU 10 месяцев назад
Lol 😂How ? He’s a non fictional character 😂🤣🤣
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective Год назад
Pure magick…that’s what makes JUGGS cool, he’s actually a magick based character.
@HalAl-if2bh
@HalAl-if2bh 3 месяца назад
“I’m the juggernaut biiiiiitch!” Remember that old voice over video back ima day? 😂😂😂
@KyleStratacusDrewry
@KyleStratacusDrewry 3 месяца назад
I had a lot of fun with this toy, growing up. Never knew how interesting his back-story was, wow! Loved him in the cartoon, those were the best episodes.
@zentec010
@zentec010 Год назад
How can you forget DR Strange favorite spell is the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Juggernaut and other magical beings channel this guy's power to cast spells that's how powerful Cyttorak is. Also, one plot point that has not been achieved or I missed it. Is that there are 7 gems for 7 gods of their dimension and once all 7 are found there is to be a fight to the finish between the gem holders and the winner wins the dimension (earth) for their master whether they know it or not. Since the 7 gods were to powerful, they would destroy earth possibly the whole dimension.
@jamespope7669
@jamespope7669 Год назад
MCU Dr Strange will use the Cyttorak spell in Dr Strange 3 and fans will say Juggernaut is coming 😂
@BYERE
@BYERE Год назад
I’m really hoping that they have an arc in the MCU dedicated to the 7 gems and the battle that comes from them. Would make a great saga IMO. Hell, we don’t know any details about the Mutant Saga for phase 7 and onwards. Maybe that’s what they’ll go for! (Very unlikely, but I can hope lol)
@attackcrash655
@attackcrash655 Год назад
​​​​@@jamespope7669 he already used the bands in Infinity war against thanos at 1:09 in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pfpdGvgK7sg.html
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer Год назад
Would be interesting if the juggernaut gem would actualy be part of the infinity stones
@BYERE
@BYERE Год назад
@@Marcustheseer No, it's an object created by Cytterak... HOWEVER, there are 6 other items created by the other outer gods that are in constant warring with Cytterak, so the 7 objects could be used as the mcguffins of a saga (ie in place of the Infinity Stones, the supposed Kang Rings/bands, etc)
@RansomeStoddard
@RansomeStoddard Год назад
Absurd armor? He had one of the absolute coolest costumes in the history of comics.
@bulletproofair
@bulletproofair Год назад
He means absurd the same way when someone says "that's bad" but means it's awesome. 😂
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 11 месяцев назад
​@@bulletproofairAbsurd in he's already indestructible with healing factors so the armor is superfluous.😊
@user-bs3zy4jl3v
@user-bs3zy4jl3v 9 месяцев назад
THIS IS WHY HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES,!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!😂
@prodigalpriest
@prodigalpriest Год назад
I believe the Gem of Cyttorak is what defines the Juggernaut. That thing altered his body in major ways.
@kenb2671
@kenb2671 Год назад
I first saw Juggernaut in Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends. It was the episode when Ice Man and Firestar who are mutants went with Spidey to see the X-Men. Juggernaut who had the 80s Hulk growl attacked them all. The only way they defeated him was Spidey removing his helmet and Professor X stunning his mind and body. Juggernaut has since made a skullcap to wear under his helmet to protect his mind. He’s one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe.
@chrlpolk
@chrlpolk 8 месяцев назад
Same! That was my first with Jug. Back when Spidey was sometimes ostracized by the X-men for not being a mutant but getting his powers through weird science. He was eventually made an honorary member but I remember a few episodes where he was sad he couldn’t join the club 😂 That was a great story arc that I’ve never seen since!
@frankurban6862
@frankurban6862 Год назад
No, the juggernaut is not a mutant when he first came to comics he was what they called an altered human, which means he has a human being, but he found a job at the gym with sitter rack, and that transformed him into the juggernaut
@cliffchampion5501
@cliffchampion5501 Год назад
Lmbo 😂
@uxkwn4894
@uxkwn4894 Год назад
lambo😂
@kearonsiddall7201
@kearonsiddall7201 Год назад
Gem
@ThresholdGaming
@ThresholdGaming Год назад
Lol...wtf are you talking about?
@marlinb.225
@marlinb.225 Год назад
Food for though. The word spelling for the stone is gem not gym.
@lukebrehm1986
@lukebrehm1986 2 месяца назад
I’m obsessed with the juggernaut and this is my first video of yours I’m watching?!?!? Of course I’m gonna like and subscribe. 😂😂
@weezerboyz123456789
@weezerboyz123456789 Год назад
must make a juggernaut movie 🍿
@taulitaulington197
@taulitaulington197 Год назад
Very nicely done! A well spoken, detailed explanation, delivered with a smooth buttery voice. I don't find that often, when I look for comic origin videos. Lovely! ♥
@johnkelly3549
@johnkelly3549 Год назад
Thank you so much
@macdeus2601
@macdeus2601 Год назад
"I'm not a mutant! MY powers are MAGICAL!"
@jonfernandez8027
@jonfernandez8027 3 месяца назад
This dude's physical presence is broken. It never ceases to amaze me as some of the most massive Marvel characters dwarf next to the Juggernaut time and time again.
@619Slipk
@619Slipk Год назад
You constantly showed clips of him fighting Colossus and mentioned that Cyttorak can simply decide to withdraw the powers from the host. Could've mentioned the instance in which Colossus became his avatar. Quite possibly the strongest version of the Juggernault (even if not the one shown performing the craziest feats, but it would have all those same capabilities added to Colossus' existing ones)
@Tyrantresister
@Tyrantresister 9 месяцев назад
It's kind of silly because classic Juggernaut was already invulnerable and could call upon limitless strength. So Colossus's powers add nothing to that except window dressing. Like the video said, you can't get stronger than infinity...
@dillonoickle5841
@dillonoickle5841 20 дней назад
@@Tyrantresister i see you and i raise you infinity and 1
@hunchoquon60
@hunchoquon60 Год назад
Juggernaut doesn’t get enough spotlight today. He needs his own movie. To introduce him into the xmen film series like how the xmen made a silent cameo in Deadpool 2 so we understood what universe Deadpool was in.
@BadzTheNewGood
@BadzTheNewGood Год назад
Wow. I have been a fan of Jugg for long and didn't know his magic bases. He should have a stand alone film or series.
@dbzgotmadness
@dbzgotmadness 11 месяцев назад
I just want to know how tf they managed to capture and keep Juggernaut in a cell in Deadpool 2
@shondelhardy1292
@shondelhardy1292 Год назад
Had no idea juggernaut was such a monster. I always wondered about him when I saw him in the X-Men movies. This made him my fave enemy of the marvel.
@Jarro77_Insane_Fights
@Jarro77_Insane_Fights Год назад
Juggernaut is such an amazing villain I still remember the first time i see him in the game Marvel vs Capcom Was one of my favourite Great content bro
@jpistolas
@jpistolas Год назад
In the newer stories Marco has been finally accepted on Arrako & lives there. He turned face back in his limited series.
@MrTuubster
@MrTuubster Год назад
And wasn't hé working for Damage Control?
@XavierShade
@XavierShade Год назад
I don't know how I've managed to live this long without knowing about his origin. Great vid!
@MattHalpain
@MattHalpain Год назад
Informative, fun, and interesting video on Juggernaut.
@buddyibarra5235
@buddyibarra5235 Год назад
Cain Marko may be human but he is deeply connected with mutants for most of his life, like his stepbro, his best friend, and the kids he's cared for like Squidboy and Zola... all that plus he's currently a citizen of Krakoa.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
Currently Originally the only one he listened to was Black Tom Cassidy, he tried to kill pretty much everyone else he came in contact with Never did like when they tried to soften villains
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna Год назад
@@ComicBookGuy420 It makes sense for him tho since X died there for a while and the brotherhood really didn't exist. He had to change up, he couldn't just be like Rhino and plowing through buildings just cause or robbing banks.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
@@ExeErdna going from villain to anti hero, I understood the move, but when they turn villains into full blown heroes, it doesn't make sense
@MrMementoMori
@MrMementoMori Год назад
Cain isn’t a mutant. He has an ancient stone that grants him his abilities. EARTHQUAKE!!! JUGGERNAUT HEAD CRUSH!!!! Edit: because of this video, I’m playing marvel, superheroes yet again. Thanks marvelous videos for bringing back a great memory.
@dadzilla8640
@dadzilla8640 Год назад
Power on!!!!
@axelthouin4389
@axelthouin4389 Год назад
JUGGERNAUT CHARGE!!!I AM INSTOPPABLE!
@NexusARC
@NexusARC Год назад
God you just send a flood of Memories back. MUAHAHAHA!!!
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 Год назад
He has a force feild around him so colossus can not shove a Cabel up his but.. and he can't reproduce because his forfeild won't let it well you know why
@Imozart0341I
@Imozart0341I Год назад
JUGGERNAUT PUNCH!!!
@LeoReo88
@LeoReo88 2 месяца назад
Basically Juggernaut is Hulk in permanant mode. But in the power wise he is weak against hulk. To make juggernaut almost invincible, you have to put him in the hulk buster suit made by iron man. The design itself of hulk buster is heavily inspired by juggernaut, stan lee himself has mentioned it. So in some other multiverse if the juggernaut is actually a good character aka a hero and if he gets enhancement from iron man, this dude can become a seriously a very very strong and powerful character in marvel universe!
@struggler5875
@struggler5875 11 месяцев назад
Funny to see a video dedicated to something you’ve just know offhandedly for like 20 years.
@gavinminton210
@gavinminton210 Год назад
Love the videos man. Even if Im always asking if they reproduce🤣 I enjoy your content. I see people putting you down and saying you don't put enough research in but don't listen to the haters. There's people out here like me that watch your videos every day.
@pablodaproducer8507
@pablodaproducer8507 Год назад
Your asking if mutants reproduce?
@gavinminton210
@gavinminton210 Год назад
No. They very obviously can. It would be pretty ironic to ask if mutants reproduced because their superpowers come from mutated genetics.
@pablodaproducer8507
@pablodaproducer8507 Год назад
@@gavinminton210 but you said..but but...nvr mind
@impressiveprogressive7343
@impressiveprogressive7343 Год назад
Can't really remember the back story, but it has something to do with a gemstone. Juggy is what is known as an "altered" human. No he isn't a mutant. This was a great point of contention between me and my wife when Juggy's power was cancelled out by Leech. Leech can only cancel out mutant (genetic) powers, Leech cannot cancel alter humans like Capt America, Winter Soldier, Spidey, etc.
@KingLuna181
@KingLuna181 3 месяца назад
The helmet is ment to stop wheelchair guy from controlling his mind
@Monstylicious
@Monstylicious Месяц назад
My fave. He will never win, but he will always make everyone struggle.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot Год назад
I'm not a mutant my powers are magical!!!
@michael2134c
@michael2134c Год назад
Homie hated being called a mutant fareal
@rolandbujeiro42
@rolandbujeiro42 Год назад
In an xmen issue back on the 80s, nimrod the sentinel actually beat juggernaut. So he's not entirely unstoppable. Just very hard to stop.
@aries666dc
@aries666dc Год назад
Nimrod was unstoppable, not the best comparsion. Also that 80s xmen all got wiped by gladiator lol
@rolandbujeiro42
@rolandbujeiro42 Год назад
@@aries666dc actually it's a fair comparison. Nimrod is just advanced tech. Juggernaut is magically powered. He shouldn't have been neutralized so easily.
@markgraham5971
@markgraham5971 Год назад
@@aries666dc Eh. Gambit aced Gladiator with a full deck blast, sooooo.
@kenaut7075
@kenaut7075 Год назад
Nimrod is the future Sentinel. It knows all the weakness. Psychic attack is one of Juggernaut weakness.
@mensrea1251
@mensrea1251 Год назад
@@kenaut7075 Nimrod paralyzed Juggernaut using tight beam ultrasonics after basically punching Juggernaut’s outer helmet off.
@muaddib7685
@muaddib7685 11 месяцев назад
The fist time I came across Juggernaut in the 90's he became one of my favorite characters.
@CalvinRedowl-rz8kk
@CalvinRedowl-rz8kk Год назад
My new favorite character. Always wanted to know his story. Cooler than I thought.
@charleswaggoner9467
@charleswaggoner9467 Год назад
He is probably one of my most favorited characters in marvel next to wolverine and carnage. Ive always said give him an inch and he’ll take it a mile, now i know thats not even half of it is amazing. Im in love with deadpool 2 take of him compared to last stand lookin like a wet noodle standin next to him. But to be frank, he’s one of those characters that all depends on the writer on how he thinks, acts, or powers he has at any given time.
@HWL4Life
@HWL4Life Год назад
Imagine if juggernaut had the speed of the flash 💀
@ditherdather
@ditherdather 2 месяца назад
I'm 44 now, and he's been my favorite Marvel character since I was just a kid.
@THEREALSEVEN
@THEREALSEVEN 9 месяцев назад
Juggernaut was one of my favorite characters growing up playing marvel vs capcom with my siblings
@chlorosokita596
@chlorosokita596 Год назад
So, in short: “Juggernaut” is the title given to the avatar of Cyttorak, who happens to be Cain Marko, step-brother of the famous Pr. Xavier. Cain simply was a muscular bully and a deserter, and Cyttorak bestowed said bully physical invincibility in the form of two impenetrable shields (a physical armor and a magical aura skin), full resilience of his metabolism (no need for sleep, no starvation, no thirst, infinite stamina) and kinetic generation (nothing can hurt him when he's static, nothing can stop him when he's moving). Very often, Marko is given the added bonus of super strength, and depending on the authors, he can be slightly bigger than your average man or literally towering the giants of the universe. As weaknesses go, they're straigthforward: Cyttorak can revoke his blessing on Cain at any point without any reason (turning him into a really muscular but very normal man, strength-wise) and no amount of magic can fix a weak mind like Marko's, so… you're not gonna see him pay his taxes any time soon. Also, despite this video claiming he's immortal, from what I got, he's not. Marko's aging process is slowed down to a degree reminiscent of Wolverine's healing factor but in actuality, the magic shield is simply adjusting its output to have him age as normally as any human being. So, unlike Logan, Marko is still lucky enough to know he's gonna kick the bucket and retire some day. It's a bit sad that Marko's best use cases in comics are with him being the villain (he's a pitiful hero) with his sole motivation being revenge on the Professor. If he was more average he could be relatable as an embodiment of revenge, but with Marko's permanent six pack and perfect shapes, it's a very, very hard sale narratively. [EDIT] Thank you for the correction, @animefanatic787, I didn't notice that typo.
@animefanatic787
@animefanatic787 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tldr explanation,however one small correction it's spelled kinetic not cynetic,not trying to be a douche,I was just stumped for a moment because of the misspelling
@Tyrantresister
@Tyrantresister 9 месяцев назад
The force field can be generated at will and allows Juggernaut to not even be touched if wanted. However, is invulnerability does not come from it, his skin, body etc is indestructible without the focefield (as is his armor sans the helmet). I think once he was banished to Eternity "major cosmic entity" and even it was unable to kill Juggs.
@justinmaitland7335
@justinmaitland7335 Год назад
One of the movies, the one with the mutant that superseded other mutants powers was the McGuffin, juggernaut is rendered unconscious when he headbutts a wall close to the McGuffin.
@sethgilcrist8088
@sethgilcrist8088 Год назад
Hehe he got leached
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
It was Leech, I don't know why he wasn't green though, or a morlock, or why his powers worked on juggy
@jayendrabhagat3607
@jayendrabhagat3607 Год назад
Yeah he was mutant in that movie i guess i remember it
@BYERE
@BYERE Год назад
@@ComicBookGuy420 because the studio and/or writers probably thought it would be to obscure or silly… despite it being a movie that involves one guy who is covered in blue fur as a senator, another guy who can cover himself in quills like a porcupine, etc. A kid with green skin? Pfft! That’s FAR too silly!
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
@@BYERE lulz sounds about right
@christopherbyrne6504
@christopherbyrne6504 11 месяцев назад
I always hoped we would see him fight along side the XMEN pitty we never seen it what a Force
@ItsHodgy
@ItsHodgy 11 месяцев назад
these videos are awesome!!
@shannon6417
@shannon6417 Год назад
When I watched juggernaut punch gladiator in the chest back in the early 90's as a kid on the animated TV series. And gladiator just tossed him across the ocean. Anything I believed about juggernaut definitely changed from that moment. I didn't think nobody could do that to him. Idk that memory always stuck with me about juggernaut.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 Год назад
For me it was an old copy of Spiderman, he he was hanging off Juggys back trying to stop his rampage after what Juggy did to madame web Juggy was just walking through buildings, shaking Spidey off, Spidey had to walk him into a wet concrete foundation pour to stop him😂
@AxeMan808
@AxeMan808 Год назад
"Immovable Object" It would be similar if Juggs ran into Blob. Actually, no; that would just tear up what Blob was standing on and carry it and him with. Gladiator's stability goes all the way to the center of the planet (galaxy).
@josephtanner3929
@josephtanner3929 Год назад
First comment .....I'll never forget that
@Destrudo5359
@Destrudo5359 Год назад
​@@AxeMan808 duhh
@AxeMan808
@AxeMan808 Год назад
@@Destrudo5359 Duh to you but not the OP. Why you want to be selfish with knowledge?
@sinclairj7492
@sinclairj7492 Год назад
He’s like a antihero, he’s so cool, everybody loves him.
@kingbladerZed
@kingbladerZed 2 месяца назад
Case and point that Juggernaut's not a mutant. Just a human mutate after toughing the jewel of Cyttorak to become the unstoppable juggernaut.
@kravenofspider
@kravenofspider Год назад
We've seen Colossus with the gem. I'd like to see other iterations like the Hulk, Blob, etc.
@grandcanyon-fu9zt
@grandcanyon-fu9zt Год назад
Did anyone else notice that dafne keen looks like X 23 from X Men Evolution?
@OJuggernautO
@OJuggernautO 10 месяцев назад
Awesome video. Thanks for explaining how awesome I am!
@shinji.deathwish
@shinji.deathwish 10 дней назад
The Deadpool 2 version of juggernaut looks so brutal, i love it. The helmet is perfekt
@nmccray4494
@nmccray4494 Год назад
He has all that power but couldn't move Gladiator one inch with his punch. In fact, Gladiator tossed him far away.
@nowherefool5869
@nowherefool5869 Год назад
if juggernaut's son inherited his powers, does that mean that the gem physically altered his genes to become a mutant so that those genes can be inherited by his offsprings?
@UrbanTiger74
@UrbanTiger74 Год назад
He's so OP it makes him awesome 😂😂😂😂. He's one of my all time fav villains. Pure brute. 😅
@sinoverlord409
@sinoverlord409 7 месяцев назад
Juggernaut is so strong he needed a fat kid to save him from a prison cell in Deadpool 2 😂
@jamesspinner7764
@jamesspinner7764 Год назад
If i remember correctly one time he actually gave up Half of his power to his brother who absolutely HATED the power and when he gave the power up it went back into the gem ... Kain had to touch the gem again to regain the other half of the power..
@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
Yup, being the Avatar and embued with the all the power and strength of an Eldritch Terror-esque, Lovecraftian Elder God in physical form, I'd guess you'd be strong. I mean, this guy is basically the physical embodiment of strength of Cthulhu lmfao. I love Juggernaught
@nicholasmaxson1316
@nicholasmaxson1316 Год назад
I want to know where you get the picture for your thumbnail of this video. That opening background picture is amazing
@manny9789
@manny9789 5 месяцев назад
Juggernaut is sooo awesome, he is definitely a favorite character of mine.
@MrAdrianlk
@MrAdrianlk Год назад
"Is juggernaut really a mutant!?" Starts long winded welllll. Me: No hes got a magic rock.
@DaveC2729
@DaveC2729 Год назад
Heh. I don't follow comics, but from your description, I can see what his strategy was with the concrete. He couldn't escape it while it was still in a liquid state, but once it hardened he would be able to shatter it. So, the way to stop him for good is to suspend him in high-viscosity gelatin and prevent it from hardening.
@safaricalamari7613
@safaricalamari7613 Год назад
Or similar to magneto, remove the helmet and have his brother Xavier put him to sleep.
@DaveC2729
@DaveC2729 Год назад
@@safaricalamari7613 Yeah, that's a good point. He may be just about invincible, but the helmet isn't. A precision shot with a small explosive munition should blow the helmet off his head, then he's vulnerable to telepathy. Then just rotate telepaths to keep him under until he loses his avatar status.
@AetherOwl
@AetherOwl 7 месяцев назад
​@@DaveC2729doubtful; the armor is from the same extremely durable source as all his other abilities; and it has taken far more damage.
@Numinor31
@Numinor31 3 месяца назад
my all time fave 90s x-men animatied series moment when Jugg gives the Gladiator a hard strike to the mid-section, it did absolutely *NOTHING* to the Gladiator😆
@GamingStar95
@GamingStar95 Год назад
Hulk's healing factor is increased the angrier he gets. His rage is a multiplier to his strength as well. Jugg is a puppet of Cyttorak and his gem that fuels his power and regen. Hulk is an immortal rage monster of the One Below All. Arguably stronger than Cyttorak. Even if it all came down to the writing, Hulk, by his own definition, is the strongest there is. Juggernaut is still a force to be reckoned with, if not more annoying to deal with. Bruce banner is fragile, but Hulk will always prevent him from dying. A fight between the two would lean more towards The Hulk, but We wouldn't be mad if they technically was each other's perfect match in an endless fight.
@westside9032
@westside9032 Год назад
It would either be hulk or stalemate
@isaiahblake8723
@isaiahblake8723 Год назад
hulk slams
@ruminating1596
@ruminating1596 Год назад
Hulk was literally written to be SUperman. It's so lame. There's way too many version of him that just one up any legit competition. If you were to take the most basic version of hulk versus Juggernaut, I feel as if Juggernaut could win with really good chances. But I mean at this point you can just point to ANY version of Hulk and he would turn the Juggernaut to dust. I mean, isn't there a destroyer of worlds Hulk? Like come on.
@GamingStar95
@GamingStar95 Год назад
@@ruminating1596 That could be said about any Marvel/DC character tho. Most are written as a broken character early, or later on. Based on popularity alone, Stan Lee Prefers Hulk/Spiderman over any Marvel Superhero/Villain/Anti-Hero. I won't give fictional characters too much thought tho. They are as the name implies. Fictional. But I see your point.
@blackSUAAAVE
@blackSUAAAVE Год назад
@@ruminating1596 - Yeah, I hear ya. Sometimes these characters get so OP’d that it’s just…insufferable. Take Flash, for example, running across a galaxy in like, 1 second? Come on. Stop it. Dude is basically faster than what created him, which is absurd. That’s like, God created me, yet I can outdo God. OMG, cut it out. First of all, what is he running on? Like, what surface allows him to run for 100,000 light years distance. And there is never any consequence for whatever he does. Hell, he doesn’t even get hungry when he does this. But he can’t go five minutes without having to eat something because of his metabolism. As far as the Hulk goes, yes, he too can be OP’d. I heard one where he could lift the sun. Seriously? I mean…seriously. What surface allows him to stand there and do this. Oh, and what is he pushing against? The sun is literally a ball of gases. Also, why WOULD anyone need to even move the sun, at all. I love comics, the books and the movies, but I can’t take this sometimes. 😂😂😂😂
@JB0523
@JB0523 Год назад
Juggs isn’t a mutant. He’s an avatar for Cyttorak. He uses the magic from the gem of Cyttorak to channel his power to become an unstoppable Juggernaut
@HellboyBr11
@HellboyBr11 Год назад
Serious?
@Odr-Ulf
@Odr-Ulf Год назад
Yup, the vid explains this lol 😉😁
@GBZOholika81
@GBZOholika81 Год назад
Got kicked out of the Movie Theater while trying to watch X-Men The Last Stand because I said something similar after Juggernaut ran in the Wall and was stopped, maybe I said it a little bit too loud, but it really annoyed me.
@NexusARC
@NexusARC Год назад
@@GBZOholika81 Dude same, most film directors don't care about what makes a character have that extra bit of charm, for some reason him being magic completely separate from the usual X-Men forte of robots, aliens, and mutants.
@Raii_Chu
@Raii_Chu Год назад
@@GBZOholika81 How do you get kicked out of a movie theatre for something so stupid. You must have said it like an ahole
@juulianray
@juulianray Год назад
7:15 If anyone is still skeptical on the juggernauts strength, it mentions here that he literally broke through bedrock. What a beast.
@bizznick444joe7
@bizznick444joe7 Год назад
Juggernaut has become immune to all weaknesses he once had. He took his helmet off and demanded the psychics to try.
@tylertrent4375
@tylertrent4375 2 месяца назад
I loved the outtro music; and, for the first time, I have found a video where I can actually merit commenting about it! What's the name of the music?
@emmanueledomeniconardi-por8576
A magic gem turns him into a hulk like avatar of the demon/deity cytorak. His powers are not DNA or gene based mutation. His powers are fully supernatural as in magically altered.
@cliffchampion5501
@cliffchampion5501 Год назад
He’s unstoppable as long as Onslaught, Gladiator, Hulk or Thanos isn’t in town. So you where actually quite wrong about Hulk not being able to keep up. Actually it’s quite the opposite.
@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341
Hulk stopped him when he was a horsemen of apocalypse other than that Hulk has never been able to beat him in a fight.
@cha5
@cha5 Год назад
They were in a fight waaay back in the 1970’s that basically ended in a draw.
@ShynLamo
@ShynLamo Год назад
​@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 without redirection of his momentum yes. He's pretty much throw him up into space with a judi like move at least once
@oldgordo61
@oldgordo61 Год назад
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 World War Hulk was able to beat Juggy by simply using Mako's momentum against him thus taking Juggy out of the battle.
@GMTV89
@GMTV89 10 месяцев назад
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 read world war hulk
@kuruptzZz
@kuruptzZz Год назад
IMO they haven't done juggernaut justice in any movie so far. In the comics he is such an unstoppable force
@paintriarchdave7977
@paintriarchdave7977 9 месяцев назад
As long as Juggernauts heart beats he generates momentum and is unstoppable.
@patrickclawson9622
@patrickclawson9622 Год назад
This origin brings up an interesting question: Would Doctor Strange be able to effect Juggernaut, seeing as one of his go-to spells is the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak?
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer Год назад
The one thing that minuten have an effect on juggernaut is time but in terms of beating him with magic force probably not
@Destrudo5359
@Destrudo5359 Год назад
Yes...read comics....
@parkinsaw
@parkinsaw Год назад
Well Cain Marco isn't even the Juggernaut avatar at it's strongest (That goes to Trion) so are we talking old school op Dr. Strange? or the water down current version.
@MrGrandure
@MrGrandure Год назад
"I'm the Juggernaut b!ṭč#!!!"
@chrismiksworld
@chrismiksworld Год назад
Ok, This was Awesome.
@iceypumpkinhead
@iceypumpkinhead Год назад
Love it when he just rams through walls
@antoinewest6534
@antoinewest6534 9 месяцев назад
It amuses me to witness the immense strength possessed by certain characters, like the juggernaut. Despite being resistant to various toxins and diseases, it is ironic that he transforms into a zombie in an alternative universe.
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 4 месяца назад
Even hulk got infected. It’s some super virus
@fireheat3246
@fireheat3246 4 месяца назад
bro found a gem and became a big guy with an anti phsycic helmet adn is literally unstoppable, def my fav villian in marvel
@H3RM1T_CR4B
@H3RM1T_CR4B 9 месяцев назад
More Juggernaut vids please.
@MrGrandure
@MrGrandure Год назад
His power comes from not jacking it.
@plzing2
@plzing2 Год назад
Fairly new to comics myself but having heard the information in this video I can't help but wonder if Juggernaut beats Superman 1v1. If his only real weakness is mental attacks and that isn't really something Supes is known for. But if both of them have near infinite potential limits. It seems that Superman would have to kill him with 1 move/blow. Which I guess in theory would be possible since Superman could just fly him into space and throw in into a black-hole?
@Prplex.
@Prplex. 11 месяцев назад
I think superman's ability to fly would help him win. If he got him into space juggernaut doesn't win but it'd be close
@elihughes9317
@elihughes9317 11 месяцев назад
​@@Prplex. So, juggernaut doesn't need to breathe. As stated in the video. "can survive the vacuum of space"
@Prplex.
@Prplex. 11 месяцев назад
@@elihughes9317 yeah he wouldn't die but what can he do in the vacuum of space? As far as I'm aware he can't fly
@OldManTastic
@OldManTastic 11 месяцев назад
Juggs would just pop out of the otherside of a Blackhole ready to whoop his ass
@worldbreaker7987
@worldbreaker7987 8 месяцев назад
No unfortunately juggernaut couldn't beat superman
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