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In a first-of-its-kind interview, we talk to a husband & wife who say they were groomed by Julie Rowe. Lauren Matthias interviews "Girl on Fire" who takes us deep into the belief system followed by Julie Rowe & Chad Daybell.
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Following this Interview, we share a statement by Eric Smith. His full statement is below.
STATEMENT BY ERIC SMITH:
"Sometime in June or July of 2017 I stumbled across a belief system that sounded like reincarnation. I don’t remember where it came from, but I think it was mentioned in several different podcasts and websites I had visited. My curiosity grew and I began looking in the scriptures to verify the possibilities of this as a lost doctrine. I found before long that it was actually scriptural, but had likely been scrubbed out by Emperor Constantine in the events surrounding that infamous council of Nicea. I performed a lot of research and asked the Lord questions along the way and found out for myself that it is indeed a true doctrine.
Before long I was sharing this belief system I had come to know of as “Multiple Probations” with a couple close friends. One of which was Julie Rowe, and another was [name redacted]. Julie felt as I did, but [name redacted] resisted it, for a couple months. I have a lengthy journal entry from September 13 of 2017 that captured several insights and [name redacted]'s new enthusiasm for this doctrine. He became even more studious in this doctrine than me, and I rode his coattails for awhile as he learned new things, much of which did not resonate with me as true. He told me he pitched the concepts to Chad Daybell, who at first resisted it, and after another conversation or two he took to it really well.
Before long Chad and I began sharing our thoughts and beliefs about it, and I found that he had grown overzealous, developing a numeric ranking system of light and dark, ‘testing’ his neighbors, church members and leaders, and so on. Some of these thoughts came from some forums on a social media platform known as LDS Freedom Forum. But Chad took many of those thoughts and changed and added things to the ideas. This is about the time I would say Chad slipped into what I call his Tier 3 belief system, which I can explain more if we do an interview.
I listened to Chad and [name redacted]’s ideas, believing some and discarding others, meanwhile I had my own journey of beliefs which were more grounded in the scriptures and what I considered at that time to be authoritative sources. My thoughts were compiled with a friend named Greg Christiansen, who I wrote a book with entitled “Multiple Probations - A Lost Doctrine Remembered”. I felt the scriptural nature of our arguments put me on solid ground. Meanwhile, Chad had found a necklace at church one day and began using it to help him in his work of classifying people and doing ‘family history’, which was a code name for basically prying into people’s personal lives and determining who they had been, and whether they were light or dark individuals or not. I went along with some of what he was doing, but never felt good about the Light and Dark classification system.
I often asked Chad his thoughts about various historic figures and current pop artists or politicians and we would toss ideas around, but a culture of “Chad has the final say” on who is who grew out of this. Before long, Chad was going to select individual’s homes where he would share his ‘discoveries’ with them, me included. By this time, I had taken my own questions to the Lord and learned some things about my own personal history, which he ‘confirmed’, but he added some names to the list which I did not get from the Lord. One of those names was “Isaiah”, which was suggested to Chad and Julie Rowe by [name redacted]. I wrestled with that, but eventually started to own it. Today I do not believe that is true.
I believe in the doctrine of Multiple Probations, Eternal Lives, or even Reincarnation but with some major differences. The reality is most religions in the world, and most inhabitants of the world believe in reincarnation with varying elements. I think it is wrong to conflate the murderous and lustful choices of a single man [Chad Daybell] with a doctrine that is inherently beautiful, speaks of second chances, spiritual ascension, and increasing light and growth opportunities.
Concerning your comment about ‘spiritual wifery’, I honestly do not know what that is. But when you understand the possibility of having lived before, you open the door of possibly having had other spouses at various times in history. Realizing that possibility, I have found it best to be present in this life, and not dwell on possibilities of having other spouses, and certainly do not try to find and connect with them. I am grateful for my eternal marriage with my sweetheart." -ERIC SMITH JULY 28, 2021
15 окт 2024
