INTERVIEW with SUZANNE FREEMAN: Friend of Chad Daybell, NDE author, PART ONE 

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"...Chad, you're going down in history as the dumbest murderer", that was soooo funny!!

Suzanne I respect you immensely. After my divorcé attending church was very hard. I had been married 32 yrs. Friends were very kind but that feeling of it’s just not the same. You walk in alone, you leave alone to go home to no one. You’re an awesome woman!🌷

It still breaks my heart that police didn’t take Charles’ claims seriously. I agree, Suzanne, he was a hero that could have protected JJ and Tylee. You are one, also, girl! Thank you for your candid and thoughtful insight.

Need to add another thought. Thank you to Suzanne for calling out Chad's behaviour towards Tammy for what it was, abuse. Tammy was emotionally, spiritually abused. Perhaps abused financially as well. We need to name behaviours for what they are.

I agree that Tylee was killed because she knew exactly what happened to Charles, and they were afraid she would tell. I am convinced that JJ was killed out of revenge. There was no way she would have given him to Kay. She killed him to punish Kay for getting the insurance money from Charles’ death. Lori and Chad are absolutely EVIL!

Suzanne, don’t ever say that you are no longer a family. Families come in all shapes and sizes. You had, AND STILL HAVE, a beautiful family. 💕

I sure like this gal. I think they didn’t invite her because she’d call them out on their crap! She’s got a lot of courage and honesty. Appreciate that.

Omg hospice social work! What a total hero. I can't say enough how much respect I have for that. Thank you Suzanne for this interview. I know it's no small thing & you did brilliantly!! You are a priceless, force for good in our society. Thank you for YOU!!!

As Lauren says, the most dangerous time of a relationship is when the abused woman tries to leave-and she was questioning his fidelity. Poor Tammy must have been living in an emotional hell during the last months of her life with all his deceit, absence and philandering. The best he could come up with to criticize her was allegedly playing a video game a little? What a jerk! I also feel sorry for Suzanne being shunned by the hypocrites at her church who preach helping the downtrodden-not kicking them while they are down! I hope she finds a new place to worship that supports women.

Chad could do what he did to Tammy because she was a means to an end. Tammy was his eternal, indentured servant created to serve Chad and all of his needs. And the fact that he fraudulently conjured up Tammy’s grandma to chastise her for doing one damn thing for HERSELF proves just how narcissistic this man was. His calm, humble demeanor is a sham cover so he can manipulate everyone around him to meet his perverse needs. He is a “type” for many men in his particular religion.

Gotta love Suzanne. She lives in reality, is straightforward, straight talk and truth. Just love this interview.

The tentacles of the actions of Chad and Lori are impacting so many! Great interview, Lauren. TY❤️

When Julie said ya da ya da ya da, I got chills…just like Leticia…the rambling..wow

Wow Lauren, what a powerful dialog at the end! Honoring to Tammy but also, your willingness to share that time in your life when you felt stuck, a failure and unloved. Your EX did not see what a gem you are! I am certain that sharing your story will minister to many suffering people and now I better understand why this crime story is so personal to you.

Wonderful interview with Suzanne, hope she knows there are a lot more people who should have done something who knew more than her. She should not feel guilty she is a hero for coming forward and helping us understand what she saw. We are grateful for her story. Lauren that tribute you wrote for Tammy made me cry it was so beautiful. Thanks for all you do to help us to get justice for all these victims and their families.

Suzanne, you are so magnetic and seem so approachable and kind. The day I need help with hospice I feel like I’d be lucky to have you help me- congratulations on your journey❤️ I am glad you listened to your heart and came to talk.

I feel terrible for Suzanne at how she has been treated since her divorce. Divorce isn’t contagious. The Christian thing to do would be to embrace the family going through divorce. I appreciate the insight she’s been giving on this case. Amazing person.

Lauren, I liked this interview with Suzanne so much!! You do such an excellent job at asking just the right questions. My heart truly hurts for Tammy’s lost life and for what she endured over the years (and at the end) by being such a faithful wife to Chad. She deserved so much better!! I hate what Chad did to her!!

Lauren, I thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Suzanne. My heart goes out to her. You conducted the interview gently and deftly, but it was clearly difficult for her. I’m glad you found your way back to journalism and to this genre in particular. Your authenticity, curiosity, and compassion are what keep me coming back. Thank you for being our voice. You really do raise the bar for other RU-vidrs. 🤍

Fascinating discussion, Lauren. Suzanne seems like a grounded, honest voice in this whole mess. Looking forward to the 2nd part.

Your letter to Tammy was so honest and heart warming. Thank you for allowing yourself to be you! I am so glad you found love and happiness in John.

Kudos to you, Suzanne, from 1 social worker to another. ❤️👍🏻

I hope it gets brought up during the trial about Tammy being abused and how easy it was for him to not only kill Tammy but to convince Lori her children were zombies and therefore justify their murder.

Lauren, what you wrote at the end is incredibly moving. You gave Tammy a voice, and all victims of emotional abuse too.

I appreciate your guest coming on as a voice for Tammy 💜

Suzanne is smart and a straight shooter. I think her speculations about these tragic events is pretty spot on. I hope she and all the others who knew Chad realize that as normal people they simply could never imagine this would happen - it's simply too crazy. So any warnings they may have voiced would have met the same reception as the warnings from Charles. Suzanne, Heather and the many others who wonder if they could have done more - please forgive yourselves. No one could have foreseen this. No one.

I literally cannot believe Julie Rowe is actually pushing that zombie idea especially since this is what Chad and Lori used as their reason for murdering Tylee and JJ. It's a dangerous idea that is not to mention totally insane

Lauren, I am listening to this in April 2024 during the Chad Daybell trial. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for sharing your own story that mirrors Tammy’s in many ways. May the women rise and find and use their voices. I benefit so much from your story Lauren but am truly sad you had to live through it.

Absolutely fantastic interview - so fascinating! I’ve been trying to gain insight into chads life and group/friends before Lori, this interview has covered every point I’ve asked. Lauren you’re such a great interviewer - you treated Suzanne with such kindness. Suzanne could write a book on how experience with Chad it’s fascinating, and fully owns the rights to the book!! By the way Lauren you look incredible in this interview, you also do but tonight it just works! Look forward to part two!

This was incredibly good. Thank you. Justice for Tammy, Charles, Tylee, JJ, and Joe!

This was a great interview, thank you to Susan for your openness and frankness.

Thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Two classy intelligent women. I learned so much about this case, these people. I’m appalled at what happened. Appalled and saddened 🧡

Hospice is very inspiring and alot of times very sad and beautiful at the same time. I worked in nursing homes for over 20 years. God bless you for choosing this area of work.

Poor ZavGirl’s facial expressions, I died. She really sat through that interview for all of us,

Oh Lauren, this was FASCINATING. Suzanne was candid and your demeanor I believe made it possible for such a wonderful exchange to happen with the two of you. I am really waiting for next week to hear part 2 and to go deeper and find out more of this terrible manipulation. It's incredible to think that Chad was capable of such evil. And what makes this the worst the absolute worst thing to me is both Chad and Lori did everything they did in the name of God. They actually believed that they were on a mission and he was a God and she is a Goddess. And I do believe that they believe that and that they still do believe that. That is beyond sickening. Thank you so much for this rare insight tonight. See you next week and have a wonderful weekend.

“I wanted to make sure she was on track”. This coming from That Man is incredible. What track was he on? She is on such a wonderful track. What an incredible woman.

I loved your tribute at the end. Speaks to so many women in similar circumstances. I pray for justice for Tammy too

Hey HTC peeps! Looking forward to spending my Friday night with y’all 😘

Anyone watching post Daybell trial? I have been binge-listening to all these interviews; they're both fascinating and insightful. I also agree with her theory about Tylee. Alex had to take her out bc she knew too much. Thank you, HTC, for all your hard work and coverage! 🤍🩵

Great interview and very touching tribute! Thank you si very much! ❤️⚘️🥰

Lauren, your tribute to Tammy and your personal story brought me to tears. I am so glad you stood up for yourself and were able to take the necessary action in spite of all you had been taught. Love, hugs and blessings to you, John and Banks. I'm grateful that you have such a beautiful family. You deserve it 💙

Great interview Lauren, beautiful words your spoke in Tammy’s memory! May she rest in Heavenly Peace.

Mostly about the money. I will say I can understand if Tammy did get caught up in "Farmville" with older children and a checked-out husband, why not have a fantasy world.😢

Oh my gosh…I got caught up in Doug Mendenhall’s group. I could share so much

I agree that Chad’s description of Suzanne is condescending. It seems like he thought if he painted her as a “simpleton” it would give more status to her book. Like, “this person couldn’t have possibly made this stuff up. She’s not smart enough. Therefore, it must have been inspired.”

Sometimes I wonder if Tylee and JJ were offered as sacrifices. These people were so far away the gospel, offering these innocents as a sacrifice would not surprise me.

I cannot begin to describe the chills that go up my spine sometimes...I hear my story in these stories. I'm learning to forgive others...and to forgive myself.

Iam so invested in this case and your channel has the best information and great interviews with all those close to this case and people involved. May God bless all that was murdered and abused by these horrible people. 🙏

What an awesome POWERFUL interview! The dedication at the ends was simply beautiful. I applaud Suzanne for speaking up and sharing her story; especially despite all the hate she’s received in the past being compared to Julie rowe… how ironic! And props to her for speaking up when she could, how she could. There’s no shame in not doing more, she did TONS more than others even closer to Chad and Lori did. The truth is- they wouldn’t have listened, they would have made excuses and reasoned away the absurdity and crazy beliefs, behaviors, etc. Being an observer and speaking out as a witness is the most she can do now, and she’s doing it. And maybe others will see the manipulation, exploitation and abuse in their own lives, or speak up when it’s happening to someone they care care about… BECAUSE of what she’s doing now. I applaud her for her courage, strength, candidness and integrity. And I thank y’all at @hidden true crime for bringing these important messages to the public and giving them a larger reach and hopefully, stronger impact- bc over 20K ppl are echoing the sentiments these victims of Chad and Lori are sharing. And were all ensuring justice is served. Bc JUSTICE doesn’t only happen in the courtroom. I hope all those affected by these frauds- these cruel, selfish, maniacal false idols- can eventually find peace, acceptance and freedom from their guilt and pain. Y’all are doing such important work and I thank U for being more than a RU-vid channel… you’re an advocate for victims, a voice for the voiceless & a mega phone of prevention & warning, and a loud speaker for understanding- so that those affected didn’t die in vain, and their struggles, their stories, and their name… will NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. YALL ARE HELPING TO HONOR and GIVE JUSTICE TO THE POOR SOULS HARMED by these evil people.

Lauren,. thank you for being a voice for the many unappreciated, abused, and neglected women in this world, you are beautiful inside and out! You & Dr. John give me hope everyday 💕

What a wonderful interview! These long form interviews, including source material and videos edited in, give us as the viewer a deeper and more nuanced look into the subjects and topics at hand. The long form also really highlights Lauren’s skill and professionalism in handling difficult and complex topics. Thank you for sharing your skills and talents with us! I so look forward to your interviews and conversations.

You Lauren are an excellent interviewer. I’m surprised dateline didn’t snatch you up. They must have missed some of your interviews. You so casually and thoughtfully gracefully and with kindness get people to open up. You also can hold a confidence probably to your last day if needed or promised. The more of your interviews I see the more respect I have for your skills.

This was so good! Lauren your the best interviewer. Truly. Thank you Suzanne for your valuable insights! can't wait for next week 🙂

This is a great interview! Thanks HTC

Great interview Lauren. I'll be here watching the 2nd half. Thank you Suzanne you gave Tammy a voice and your helping us all to better recognise evil.

It is amazing to me that Chad thinks he was Jesus’ best friend, and yet there were 12 other friends that were Jesus’ better friends. Chad didn’t qualify to become an apostle. And he still had to come back for more probations because he still wasn’t “good” enough. AND he came back as Chad Daybell, as if that is any type of improvement.

Your tribute to Tammy was beautiful. Thank you. I’m so glad you and John found each other. ❤❤

That was a great live Lauren. I really apprieciate Suzanne speaking with you.

Lauren i admire the way u interview ur guests. U give them the time to tell their stories and not interrupt him.

Thanks - your final message is very moving and needed.

Excellent interview 💞 really enjoyed hearing Suzanne’s introspect …she is one very strong Woman. Looking forward to next Friday 🦋

Lauren, you are amazing. Thank you for all you do. ❤️💙💜💙💜💙💜💙💜

O, Lauren! Your story and how you told it really moved me today. I'm so glad that you and John found each other. It 's no coincidence that you ended so deep in this tragic case....it needs you two to try to 'explain' it

I am so thankful for and look so highly to people who stand up for what's right and blow the whistle ring the bells scream from the mountain tops even to get the truth out. Thank you both

Great interview and very insightful. What I like about your interview style is that you stay in the moment and allow silences to flow naturally. Suzanne, you're awesome. Thank you for sharing your story.

Charles is a hero, I wished they would’ve believed him. So sad 😢 Yes, Tylee knew what happened and that is one reason she is no longer here. Bless her heart! 💕

This is so intriguing. Your hair looks awesome Lauren!

Lauren, this interview popped up on my YT after watching reels from the C. Daybell trial this evening. Thank you so much for bringing Suzanne on board to share her truths and her personal narrative regarding experiences with her own sacred experience as well as those with Tammy and C. Daybell. I have always shied away from saying "story" when speaking of someone's real life history. ( oh there the story at the end!) because that word is often used to mean something NOT true. I look forward to learning more about you Suzanne. For the entirety of my life, I have been asked to write books and stories about my life and my experiences. I always hesitated because to do so has ramifications that are broad and open oneself up to negative reactions with which to defend oneself.

Wow Lauren, this was put together so well. I love the reference clips interwoven into the interview. I can't imagine the time and effort that went into compiling all of that. Suzanne is so endearing and I am looking forward to hearing the rest of her story. Thank you for sharing YOUR story too. I am glad you found your voice and value the voices of others.

Very interesting that Julie was close to one of the children. Now it makes sense to me why they think their father is innocent.

it kinda sickens me how Chad said he " cross examined her".

Suzanne is such a strong woman! First of all, she totally knew Chad was off! Her intuition is right on. Then, to have gotten out of her marriage with 10 kids, against the beliefs of the church! That is not easy! I'm super proud of her. By freeing herself, she will help others free themselves too. She seems like a such a sincere sweet soul. I hope she finds her tribe. She's going to be a wonderful social worker. Thanks Lauren, for another insightful interview. xo

Thank you for this interview and especially for the message at the end!!

I just love Suzanne! What a great interview/conversation ❤

Thank you, Lauren and Suzanne. It's somewhat cathartic to hear your thoughts on this tragic story. I think we all want to understand, but it's just so unbelievable that people could do such things. It helps to hear it, ponder it, and discuss how two people can actively orchestrate the destruction of so many for their own selfish gain. Much love always 💞

The sacredness of the chapel of a church is not unique to LDS. That Julie Rowe thought she was so special and that was where she should be speaking is an indication of her self-centerness. Chad became emotionally involved w another woman that was extremely self centered, Lori Vallow.

Thank you, Lauren, for your wonderful tribute to Tammy. And thank you for being you. Thank you for your bravery in getting out of a bad marriage. I am so happy that you met Dr.John and found someone who cherishes you! And your wonderful son, what a gift he is to both of you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I really hated hearing Simple Susie. People have said "Susie slow a**" and other junk like that to me as well and it's totally unwarranted. Suzanne Freeman is clearly an amazing, intelligent author that Chad himself chose to publish! I feel like it's part of his narcissism and gaslighting to portray himself as this proper, humble guy. He was trying to sell books, to make himself money.

Such a beautiful tribute, Lauren. I am so glad you found your voice and that you & John found each other. 💖

Wow, your tribute at the end of this podcast was powerful, it spoke to my heart. Thank you so much for sharing this story 🙏❗️

i love this episode, the way you have put everything together for us to understand every aspect of this whole saga.

Lauren, your words at the end of this interview resonate not only as a voice for Tammy’s, but for women who have been victims of emotional abuse as well. Thank you for your courage in sharing your story. Getting vulnerable is hard and it takes an immense amount of courage, but it also leads to healing. You are a beautiful writer. ❤️

What a beautiful tribute to Tammy. Thank you Lauren! 💕

Dearest Lauren, your tribute to Tammy has me sitting very still. I’m like a bird suspended in flight as you read these words. You invest so much of your time and talent with the help of your nice husband to bring light to the sad little corners of our lives we’ve tried to get past. I’m 72 years old and at times I reflect on Younger Me. I see so many innocent young girls and boys at risk to be torn apart by the predators in wait. Thank you for all that you do. At my age, I’ve gathered a basket of wisdom that I hope to pass on, I cannot tell you how delightful it is when a young brilliant mind such as yours adds to my little basket.

❤ for Tammy !!! I don't hear about her and she deserves so much more than she has been given. They nearly mention her and that it so wrong ! Blessings & ❤ from Norway ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

I don't know how long Roger K Young has been around, but I learned about the call out when I was growing up in the church. That was the 1970's. My family was not a member of any fringe groups, we only went to the mainstream services in northern Nevada.

Lauren- I LOVED your tribute to Tammy at the end. It was so heartfelt and moving. I am so sorry for your hurtful marriage to an awful person. But so thrilled to see your second chapter with John and Banks. I wish Tammy could have countered Chad with her own vision. I wish she could have said “What a coincidence. My grandmother came to me in a vision last night too and she said I was working way too hard and you needed to get a better paying job and stop playing writer and leaving the family every weekend! I think you may have been visited by a zombie giving you false testimony….She also wanted me to tell you to get T.S.Elliot’s Elements of Style because your writing is terrible.”

Lauren, I love how you ‘braided’ excerpts of interviews with other folks with Suzanne’s very forthright statements for an increasingly clear view of what the ef happened in Chad’s evolution to the manipulative murderer he became. It looks to me like Garth and Emma were on board with daddy’s cult although Emma, apparently on the day Tammy died, suspected Chad was gonna marry one of his ‘wives’ from a previous mortal existence. I wonder if Chad’s ‘emotional affair’ partner was one of those two tall blondes in Lori’s prayer group.

Great interview. This gave me so much insight into how this group got so out of control. Thank you, Suzanne, for coming out of your comfort zone to shed light on the history of how this evolved.

Let me start by saying: Suzanne, you are badass! And don't let anyone tell you the opposite. And if the tribe you called yours before the divorce have a problem with it, find another tribe. Good people do not cast others out, especially children FGS!!!!- because of divorce! I'm pretty sure, if the celestial kingdom exists, they are accepting people based on merit and NOT relationship status.

Julie Rowe is dangerous just as chad and loco lori are

Wow , Lauren your reading at the end about Tami is a beautiful tribute to a woman whose voice was hidden by a monster of a husband. I know Tami is at peace and with Jesus. Thanks for sharing this with all of us.

You looked gorgeous, for this interview, Lauren

Suzanne Freeman's account of Chad's not being able to laugh full-out and comfortably, is incisive. I, too, notice when people aren't able to laugh fully. That kind of self-editing or repression is noteworthy.

Thank you so much to Lauren and Suzanne for being a voice for Tammy. It is so important Justice must be served.

Interesting! Thanks for the interview. Can’t wait for the next part.

I love this lady already… just watching the trailer!!😍

Chad has always seemed DULL, even in his steamiest texts to Lori- SIMPLE and dull. So glad you rose above him. Ms Freeman

It’s Saturday midday here in cairns am eager to catch up with all of you 👋👍❤️☮️