K31, K11, G11 Schmidt-Rubin compared, best swiss rifles 

many thanks... enjoy!

etaoinbshrdlu basically my point would have been to show, how unnecessarily huge and long a G11 is. I am not getting any better accuracy with it, and then why not go for the top-tier K31 right away? IMHO the K31 sights are crisper as well (just my side note).

One guy on the Swiss Rifles forum recently claimed that with its longer barrel the K11 would have somewhat more potential accuracy at longer distances, like 700-800 meters. It would be interesting to do that comparison! And you've got the rifles!

etaoinbshrdlu You mean the G11, right, mate? The K11 has the shortest barrel. Still, take a look at my sniper K11 performance video. I had a run at 300 yards with it this weekend, on a hill with 15' uphill, and still got a 2 inch group. Remember: G11 is InfanterieGewehr11, K11 is Karabiner11. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v_R2mrK5Xp0.html As there is no shooting range in HUngary for civilians with 700 yards, I will neverbe able to test these guns on such a range.However, I did find that for me at least, the K31 was the most accurate with iron sights, mainly because the better front sight post (I can't really prove it, but to me, the shape of it is more crisp than the G11's thin front sight post, it's rather my personal taste than a fact).

+patruick marco thanx a lot, go practice regularly and become a Canadian Marksman! I hear your folk have a great reputation for being crack shots. With a K31, you are surely a CAN-adian.

+patruick marco you sir have good taste.

Bear of Sinai I should it is hard in northern Ontario to find large open spaces it is so hilly and rugged here but I think I can practice out to around 400m at my camp this summer.

DavidWFilm Thanks lol nothing like Swiss rifles they are outstanding

+patruick marco in hungary, one could only dream of 400 yards range as a civilian... top one was 300 yards, thozgh steep uphill... point is u must stay sub moa with any of these rifles, with iron sights. long live the purist rifleman's way.

thanks! the sooner u get one, the better. thanks to youtube,.swiss rifles are not curiosity`s object anymore, but objects of desire! I had almost all major milsurp bolt actions,.only ones i kept at the end were the K31 and K11. if starting a collection, go for the biggest bang for the buck: K31. u will LOVE it.

+Bear of Sinai I picked up my own K31, all matching numbers, 1940 dated bore is like new ! Shot it for the first time yesterday using 168 grain Sierra boat tail home loads. Well impressed and the finest trigger squeeze on any military rifle I've fired. All the best from Scotland

GD well done, cheers mate, just dont forget to have a Guiness after the range practice!

thanx... cheer up, all that matters is the barrel condition, just buy a straight shooter k31

There are mounts that use the screw holes in front of and behind the magazine. Personally I'd leave the 1911 as is as they're more rare than k31's.

Buy additional an K31, you can get a Mount for it. For me, the iron sights on the G11 works just great and it´s a very precise weapon.

They are used to stack 3 rifles together so that they are not laying on the ground.

Hi Scott,u r wellcome. don`t even think twice, go for the K31. If i could have.only one rifle,.it would be hands down k31. The best milsurp out there. However, if anytime a cheap G11 or K11 would cross your path, don't hesitate, its also a nice addition to any collection.

Bear of Sinai I ordered one and it should be arriving on Friday. I am sure I will enjoy it.

Bajnok Gyula K31. Ha csak egy SR puskad lesz, akkor K31. plusz arra lehet venni utangyartott oldhato weaver sines acel szereleket, ami a toltokeretnek kialakított vajathoz fogathato fel, furas nelkul es raadasul tartja a zerot g31 amugy nincs, szerintem k31et akartal irni pontossag teren mindegyik epp ugyanolyan kivalo egyszeruen a k31 a legpraktikusabb es legjobb a csaladban

Bear of Sinai köszönöm a választ! Igen valóban elírtam k31-et akartam irni! Akkor ebben a tipusban nemlehet mellényulni😀

Bajnok Gyula képtelenség melléfogni. nekem minden hadipuska megfordult a kezeim között az elsö vhtol a másodikig, es egesz egyszeruen a k 31 minden mast agyonüt. semmihez sem hasonlithato. tomeggyartott puska áráért mesterlövész minöség. mit mondjak még? egyedüli hibája, hogy a gyári gp11 löszert már sehol sem kapni, és eléggé utána kell járni a löszernek. manapság hol lehet hozzá odahaza löszert kapni? prvi partizan gyárt 7,5*55öt, igaz?

TankJockey38 I'm pretty sure they do. That's one of the few parts that you can interchange with the k-31. You can check on the forums to confirm it.

try the german gun-site, wahwahwah point egun point de search for "Visier" or visier werkzeug.

Impressive, they have a much larger selection than the brownells here and i found what i need. Thanks. Another question for you. Any opinion on the quality and function of the R.S.M. diopter sight for the K31? I can get it for $200 which is much cheaper than the Bern one.

Silverhaze78 no idea mate, havent seen one up, close n personal... i would try it if u have the right of return, in case u find it sux The bern is perfect, but also costs 500 dollars if u can find one set at all.

+Silverhaze78 btw this is like angun ebay, these are small ads from usually private persons. caveat emptor, therefore.

+Bear of Sinai omg googled this chinese rsm... looks kreppy... noppe. no wont do. forget it is my advice 2u

Nope. G11=K11, but K31 action and magazine is totally different. Not interchangeable.

@@Sinaimedve007 ok thank you ! and about the bayonet, it's the same for K11 and K31 ?

@@agri7121agrimachinisme unfortunately not, the bayonets are very different, with the k31 bayonet being the best and of amazing quality, easily worth to collect. The stripper clips are the only interchangeable accessory.

Alexander Rodecape of course, there's nothing wrong with it. Never seen one fail. I had a G11 and a K11 for years, fired hundreds and hundreds of rounds, both still going strong. That much being said, the K31 (and it's bolt design) is superior in everyway, shape or form. Nothing I ever had, seen or used could give the K31 a run for it's money. It's an apex predator in the milsurp world.

+Canadian Metis Man exactly, well said, brother! Have fired at least 500+ rounds through my G11, and as many through the K11, never had any issues. These 3 rifles are all made for GP11, and will last 4ever. However, it's the K31 that takes the cake of all...

For some reason, when people would mention the stronger action of the k31, I felt like the k11 would be prone to breaking in my face or something. Thanks in part to this, I picked up my own k11 and I think it's my favorite rifle. :)

Alexander Rodecape may your rifle bring good fortune for you, mate! Milsurps rule.

***** splendid idea, brother! you will be happy with ur g11 and k11, too.

No. A 1911 magazine will work in a K11. I bought a sporterized 1911 specifically for the magazine for my k11 for $150. Which is the price of the magazine alone.

k-31s have more parts around because they made more. They even have aftermarket parts for the k-31. Sadly the k-11/ g-11 doesn't have a lot of aftermarket parts. You got to repair original parts if you can and if you want extra parts they are cost you a lot of more compared to the k-31

Tec Tyler u mean the scope? just like i would do with any riflescope. or u mean the iron sights? in both cases, start with bore sighting, and then zero in. simple. i had my scope zeroed in a few shots, most important is to do boresighting, saves a lot of ammo and money.

i mean the Irone sight and were did u get your scop mount from

Tec Tyler hi check out the previous comment... the mount was custom made by my gunsmith. the iron sights u can adjust with the special tool, or be cheap and just use a small hammer and a punch

do i have to line up the punched line

The witness line was put in there by the manufacturer and would have been correct at the time. If you use a punch make sure it's brass.

mate, these milsurps will.outlive us all, even our grandchildren will use them...