In this video six and I go in-depth on a very controversial battle between Kaguya and momoshiki. We go over the various forms of both characters and how they would do battle Enjoy!! Six' Channel: • How Strong is Sasori?
3:36 another great example for this would be in part 1 naruto, with Hinata technically having a higher "status" in the Hyuga Clan, but Neji being far stronger
@@user.-446 lol no way bruh....if they fought Madara, they destroying all 25 of the humanoid susanoos at once...and this is just the 4 kages not including the Hokage
@@user.-446 lmao at wt stage I contradicted myself lol...I am arguing that Momoshiki ain't that strong because the Kages he fought and defeated are weak and even weaker than the 5 kages that Madara fought lol
@@user.-446 you are basing the new kages feats based on Momo which they exchanged a couple of blows and the new kages wouldn't even be able to beat the 25 Susanoos Madara created so I dk where tf you get that they are stronger than the old Kages....Darui is slower than the fourth Raikage...Chojuro only has his sword and was nvr stated to be stronger than the older Mizukage....Ohnoki could take out 25 humanoid susanoos at once which Kurotsuchi is not shown to be able to do...I am the one who should be saying that the current Kages haven't even shown anything which indicates that they have feats or jitsus better than the previous ones....and that's I am saying that Momo ain't that strong....if you don't und wt my argument is about then you should just stfu bro
@@user.-446 saying that I am repeating myself but you yrself ain't replying how they are going to even beat Madara's 25 Susanoos already shows you lost the argument lol which Madara was toying around🤣
@@user.-446 and we are debating Kaguya with Momoshiki and that's wt I am using to say that Kaguya's stronger than Momoshiki boy...not saying Madara's stronger than Fused Momoshiki whatsoever but the fact that Fused Momo didn't straight up annihilate the Kages and they put up a bit of a fight with Momo shows Momo ain't on Kaguya's level...Cz Kaguya one tapped a Perfect susanoo and Momo was struggling with one
At 5:45, Obito talks about the Zetsu in chakra as in chakra signature and physical appearance in the context of having the Zetsu infiltrate. So Kaguya trying to have a Zetsu army to copy Kisame to absorb chakra, for example, wouldn't happen. Kisame even states that they would be useless in battle. So I think the most accurate interpretation would be that white zetsu can copy the chakra signature and appearance of ninjas to infiltrate the war.
Once Kaguya betrayed Isshiki, she'd still need a living Otsutsuki to plant the God Tree. So, logically, the only other candidate for sacrifice would have to be herself. The whole plan was for her to plant her Karma, sacrifice herself, and revive. The only difference is that Isshiki would have reaped the benefits instead of her. We already saw with Jigen that an improper resurrection for an Otsutsuki can have disastrous consequences, so maybe the weaker Kaguya we saw in the anime was just her post-reincarnation. Since humanity was fairly weak at the time, Kaguya would have a limited number of candidates to choose from. However, since most of her power would still be in the God Tree after she sacrificed herself, she wouldn't run into the same problem as Isshiki. Finally, once she ate the fruit, she would have regained all of her original power plus whatever the God Tree had absorbed from the planet at the time. It's subtle, but the Kaguya on the mural, the one who betrayed Isshiki, was missing the tomoe from her sleeves and had slightly different-shaped horns. And her Rinne-Sharingan likely only had 6 tomoe instead of the full 9. And when it comes to Fused Momoshiki, there's another question to consider: can he stop time?
Yes he can, he did it like twice with Boruto and he even stated in the anime that he could single handed defeat Kaguya so Momoshiki is arguably stronger than Kaguya and Isshiki although Otsutsukies don’t break the rules by fighting other Otsutsuki except Kaguya who did that and was considered a betrayal that’s why Momoshiki and his subordinates descends to eliminate her and contain the chakra fruit as originally plan since Momoshiki is the Otsutsuki that has absorbed most chakra fruit from the Otsutsukies we’ve seen so far, he ate 16 chakra fruit and Senshi the Otsutsuki leader himself confirmed it and ask Momoshiki to descend and take care of the mess that Isshiki and Kaguya have done ✅
Also Momoshiki seemed to be the best candidate almost close to becoming Otsutsuki god since he is all knowledgeable than the human and the Otsutsukies themselves… and he even stated in the manga that himself has an issue with the Otsutsuki god somehow so he wanted Boruto to continue his legacy and become an Otsutsuki god where he can destroy shibai. Momo could be an incarnate of the other god that destroyed shibai’s body in the past because it is said that shibai was killed and his body parts was separated so he doesn’t regenerate thats why he is trying to be reborn that means there’s another god that killed him and since Momoshiki has an issue with Shibai then that could mean that Momoshiki had a hand in destroying Shibai and wanted to become the new Otsutsuki god
Nope isshiki is far stronger that is why the resurrection didn’t work if Kaguya had a bad host she would auto die in a few days or weeks the time line falls apart if that is the case she found a perfect host due to how weak she was
@@xotimyth dude Kaguya took Madara’s body and it was breaking down isshiki had to rebuild Jigen into a superior being before taking his body they are completely different levels of power also Madara is fodder
I have a serious question ppl always say kaguya is stupid for the white zestu army because they're weak but idk I just always thought what if they just copied the otsutsuki like they did the ninja either just making an army of kaguyas or a bunch of whoever they're fighting so my question is do y'all think that was a possible possibility or is it just heavy head Canon/ conjecture
The white zetsu army was made to deal with momoshiti and kinshiti They absorb chakra and cannot be killed easily They can perfectly hide or mimic chakra signatures They cannot be defeated easily The only way they got stopped was through nature energy something no Otsutsuki besides kaguya has It's ironic that the one who single handedly defeated all of them took on the people they were meant for Aka Naruto beating the shit outta momoshiti
Alright correct me if I am wrong. You all think momoshiki is stronger than kaguya because if the following reasons, 1. Momoshiki has been stated to be stronger than kaguya in guidebooks 2. Kaguya Feared momoshiki and needed an army to face them. 3. Naruto and Sasuke as Adults are stronger than their teen selves and since As teens they beated kaguya and since momoshiki was relative to adult variants, he is stronger than kaguya. Alright firstly, just promotion material to debunk toneri being weaker than kaguya is a stupid excuse because that was advertisement to just hype toneri up. I mean that material couldn't even fukin speel shikamaru right and you all think kishimito actually wrote that? Okay next up, the kaguya who was stated to be inferior to momoshiki and kinshiki and who needed an army was the pre divine tree kaguya the same kaguya who got fucked by the human. Secondly, the army which kaguya made to face momoshiki was White ZETSU army. The same army who got low diffed by MS sasuke and KCM1 Naruto. You also gotta understand that kaguya peak is the one against hagoromo who actually had all bijuu rather than missing half of kuruma and I think giyuki too I forgot. Alright now the guides state that momoshiki is stronger than kaguya. They are referred to the pre divine tree kaguya obviously. Next up, Nerfed kaguya no diffs Naruto and sasuke. Now this is also a debate whether Naruto and Sasuke got weaker or Stronger. Now I don't want to get into this debate so let's just say that 50% adult Naruto and 50% adult sasuke were about as strong as Naruto and Sasuke against kaguya. Since Naruto and Sasuke were at half power too. Alright so this means than we can now directly compare kaguya and Momoshiki by there performance. Momoshiki: > Mid diffs Kuruma avatar and gets no diffed by majestic attire susano. > Is able to go toe to toe hand to hand with Naruto and Sasuke. > Can overpower Naruto and Sasuke individually but not by much. > He can absorb jutsu and magnify it. > His dragon shit can overpower base with EMS sasuke >Needed 4 low kage level fighters who didn't contribute much and one 12 years old genin along with naruto and Sasuke to put down Kaguya: > One shots perfect susano twice without much effort. > Nearly kills Naruto and Sasuke twice and is only stopped by plot > Tanks Naruto all style biju rasenshuriken without visible injuries > Able to absorb Amaterasu from her skin > Is able to low diff Naruto six paths clones without much effort. > Her ash killing bone negs durability to the point even hashirama cells and Naruto seal cannot heal you. > Requires two high jonin level fighters who have enough chakra to open portals through all her dimensions and a elite jonin level fighter who got possessed by his dead friend's ghost which gave him the most OP hax in Naruto and is somewhat relative to them. And of course Naruto and Sasuke. You tell me who has better feats, fused momoshiki or nerfed kaguya? Now do you really think MOMOSHIKI CAN BEAT A 2X STRONGER VERSION OF KAGUYA WHILE IN BASE? Momoshiki obviously is above Kaguya in skill, IQ/BIQ, taijutsu, absorbtion etc. But kaguya takes every other category
@@dingoflex9338 fr bro they Meat ride him to insane extent. They say that momoshiki can just outsmart kaguya yet Momoshiki lost his rinnegan to a fatigued sasuke in the anime and in the manga to a 12 yr old genin with 2 shadow clones
Lol kaguya fought a weaker Naruto and sasuke and lost and momoshiki fought adult Naruto and sasuke and was giving up them a run for their money and almost beat them so momoshiki is definitely stronger than kaguya
@@TaariqBethea lol Naruto and Sasuke got blitz multiple times by kaguya and they had to resort to sealing her and the only requirement was to touch her simultaneously. A weaker adult variants and as they were rusty, lost six paths power and were running on half power proceeded to bully the shit out of the same momoshiki. and all it took to kill Momoshiki was a giant rasengan from a Fatigued base Naruto who couldn't even stand. If you had even the slightest of brain cells you would realize who did better
When they flashback to kaguya vs ishiki kaguya has her rinnesharigan a arguement u can youse is that that is just how naruto and sasuke pictured the events when it was told to them
Kaguya Negs. Naruto with half his chakra (practically Naruto KCM2) and a nerfed Sasuke after opening a portal for almost a dozen people destroyed Momoshiki with absurd ease in the first round, and detail, Momoshiki had half of Naruto's chakra that he stole because Naruto let himself be hit by the bijudama for the good of Konoha, and even with all these disadvantages Momoshiki took a beating easily, in the second round he only came out alive because the scientists gave him ninjutsu to absorb and he was humiliated once again having been defeated by a child. Kaguya faced Naruto and Sasuke at their HEIGHTS with Hagoromo's chakra, Naruto had the godoudamas and still had Kakashi DMS to get in the way and even so they had tremendous difficulty in winning. It's a complete joke to think that failed Momoshiki even has a chance against Kaguya, it's an insult to intelligence.
@@hainguyn948 he has the rikudou mode that gives him the understanding of chakra but he no longer has the rikudou sennin's chakra that made him so strong, naruto only needs MK2 to finish momoshiki's fodder, so weak that the base ran from darui and so pathetic It took the power of another otsutsuki to compete with half of Naruto's chakra and a nerfed Sasuke and he still lost twice, LOL, Boruto fanboys have the IQ of a monkey.
Yeah the Leaderboard doesn't count for those but maybe you could use them as potential rather than current power. Yeah I always thought that in series she planned to somehow make the Zetsu stronger or use them to divert the attention that way she could get a sneak attack. Another thing I thought was possible is maybe her planning on making a Zetsu so strong maybe Black Zetsu and then using that to amp herself. We never saw his Gold Rinnegan Ability. Now I'm wondering if Kaguya hid her Rinne-Sharingan and then ate a fruit and either could no longer hide it or stopped hiding it.
It's only contentious because people are stuck in the past they like to hate on Boruto or are tired that they are starved from the hype of Naruto having Kaguya over Momo is one way they can try and argue that Teen Naruto was stronger for some so regardless if that was the original intention or everyone's intention doesn't matter what matters is the crossover within these arguments.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith That's arguable because people wonder like if Momo still has the fused powers and how that works and things and timestop just keeps happening . Also my point will still stand on Urashiki unless he got the same if not similar which might actually explain that arc and might now be my new headcanon.
Kaguya was missing Hagoromo And Hamuras chakra along with the chakra that as flowing inside Naruto and Sauske Kaguya chakra was most potent before she gave birth to her sons
@@George-zc6dj well first because he was able to defeat him and in the past they each had their own Sun and Moon seals and as adults Hagoromo possessed both seals on his own not hard to comprehend and his off spring literally created the two strongest clans in the known world with his descendant Naruto beating Toneri in tenseigan mode with just biju sage mode 💀
Go HATE me but , this is the truth so we take it like : Kaguya vs Fused momo -All-killing-ashe-bones should be the ultimatul "kekeimora" of Shikotsumyaku "kekeigenkai" - that's should mean all-killing-ashe-bones are real bones , what kaguya can shoot or use to closefight ( beeing real bones that will not beeing aborbt , like real fire " -We not seen momoshiki beeing able to open portal dimension " we not talk abouth boruto karma or jougan " so Amenominaka Should be a greath advantage for Kaguya traveing and using to change shot direction -We should consider the Summon dimension " i like no name it Kaguya Glitch, uk way to summon moon bcs before her seal was no moon "if that kaguya and naruto 6 path " beeing able to fly " was unable to move and even amenotejikara wasn't look like gonna help sasuke will dodge this BONE " speed < tp (raikage vs minato)" i won't see momoshiki gonna dodge it for long period until her shoot with both hands for 1 target in that gravity dimension -We point here momoshiki dodge all until kaguya is out of chackra outspeed his gravity dimension and amenominaka and now they bouth beeing in first dimension " reason cuz kaguya there refill with chackra " the things look even bad for momoshiki beacose let's say if he harm her ... (is no point to think momo punch harder than all biju rassengan) so in the biggest deal he will make her to become a big TRUTH SEEKING ORB "zetsu theory beeing close to explode, that happening before cuz her as jinkuriki of 10 tails can't controll it" ::::: Sometimes in this anime is good to understand even us favorite chapters had to do a mistake , bad statement or something like ::::::: -Sasuke theory : There are more otsutsuki Stronger than Kaguya , Yes sure can be but , this is not momoshiki -Sasuke theory : He is the same level of Kaguya , Ok , people there we go , Unseal Kaguya again to see Sasuke how deal with Gravity dimension and All Killing Ashe Bones again without Obito , Naruto , Kakashi and Sarada , don't say nothing more abouth Chibaku 6 path , but He say that cuz he still had 6 Path Chackra so happly he can touch her and her ts orb "thing what momoshiki haven't so he won't do nothing agaist ts-orb" (remeber cuz kaguya body... almost melt Sakura saved by Kakashi) -Even Zetsu after unseal Kaguya not even tell the real story , beacose we can see zetsu saying > -And The biggest one Amado acutally debunk what Zetsu story show to Naruto and Sasuke beeing what he Belive abouth what was before becose ... there was no other Otsutsuki , and her definetly never eat Chackra fruit , becose no Otutsuki was there to feed 10 tails so what really happen ? Simple herself become the 10 tails Jinkuriki and Growing a new Divine Three and that should explain why only her Ears and Rinne-Shari was the change + Jubidara and Jubitoo , look Alittle Familiar to Haguromo and Kaguya after "Aborbt" not before ..... make sense ? or i should post with ScreenShoots ? ? ? Edit " we can see every Beast Who did Divine Three , beeing literally In Kaguya " , so my point is if Everyone belive Naruto solo Momoshiki , but Naruto can't Solo Kaguya cuz her is imortall and can be just seal with Moon And Sun Sigil Chibaku Tensei so if naruto wasn't learn how to grow new sigil sing good look !!
-The bones and all kaguya attacks are made of chackra they get absorbed, or countered with chackra rods -Momoshiki literally creates dimensions with planets and he can't teleport????? -Sasuke theory was confirmed right, this adult naruto and sasuke are way stronger than war arc and momoshiki would beat them in 1vs1, kaguya was afraid of him for a reason why do you think even after she got powers she still made the army??? -Light novel momoshiki is way stronger than you think he have better feats than kaguya, just in base he could destroy a star and make meteors and a blizzard absolute 0. Kaguya only got haxs but they get counter by momo, he has taijutsu, skills, strength, speed he only have to seal her or transform into a fruit. Some people say Kaguya feed isshiki lower half to tentails but it's just a theory.
@@_------------_ arre you fucking idiot or what man you suck you tell me character statement and their theory what isnt truth , and this thoery with other otsutsuki stronger not mean momoshiki or urashiki or kinshiki , and never said stronger said more dangerous , beacose kaguya teleport hole fight to other dimension to not damage earth , while others dosn't care abouth planet , like you tell me 13y obito is more more stronger than hashirama cuz hashirama never atac the village how kaguya never try to destroy earth ? But obito destroyed the village " yeah but hashirama goal was to protect the village , right like kaguya trying to protect the earth , even release infinite tsukuyomi and leave half of people to live , while other half becoming zetsu , not for an army , but her not killing people humans...
@@_------------_ man are you dumb ? " in novel " man are yoh dumb ? Is fucking weak , momoshiki " if kaguya plant the chackra god three i haven't to come here to punish her "not only plant it and eat chackra fruit , but become 10 tails jinkuriki
@@_------------_ no cannot being aborbt beacose are bones , real bones when her shoot them her pull of his spine and recreate new one , is literally real bones , like kimimaro kekei genkai , this is the kekeimora this is her bones , you seen them kamui , what kamui is a portal like amenominaka
Momo have better abilties and phsyical stats . While kaguya just have hax and dojutsu like Truth seeking orbs dimensoal travel and ash killer bones but he fast enough to dodge bones and he can follow her in the dimenson if she try to destroy he simply go to another dimenson then come back whoop her ah
If Momoshiki>Kaguya Baryon Mode Naruto>>Daemon>Isshiki=Code (No Limiters)>Jigen>>>Naruto KCM and Rinnegan Sasuke>Momoshiki Fused>Momoshiki>Kaguya>Kinshiki (Kinshiki is a walking L)>Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke (War Arc) If Base Momo>Kaguya or Fused Momo>Kaguya then some things might change, but not much i think so
Also, no fucking way that Naruto still has Six Paths, he might be STRONGER than Six Paths But he doesn't have it, if he had it then he would have used Six Paths Sage Mode to fight Code, not regular Sage Mode
Based Momoshiki was able to corner Naruto on the god tree 🌲 and do him dirty lol 😂 Fused Momo nearly killed sosuke if Naruto didn’t get into Kurama mode to cut of the dragon wood style and was even able to corner Naruto in Kurama mode if it wasn’t for Sosuke’s susano defense
Base momo who was assumed to be kaguya Ivl ran away from darui and gaara once they figured out his absorption. Darui even threatens him saying they know hell fire back used jutsus so theyll take him down by brute force, thats a fodder kage Ivl dude whod get clapped by ems madara in 5 seconds threatening a so called 'kaguya Ivl' guy... Momoshiki considered narutos half 9 tails chakra as enormous. Full 9 tails chakra is a drop compared to 10 tails chakra and 10 tails chakra is a drop compared to kaguyas chakra Ivl. Momoshiki in fused was getting folded by chakra drained naruto and sasuke who r halves of hagoromo and was constantly popping pills to replenish his chakra and to heal. And finally he died to a rasengan made halves of hagoromo and was constantly popping pills to replenish his chakra and to heal. And finally he died to a rasengan made by chakra drained base naruto. This rasengan didnt contain 6 paths chakra, sage chakra or 9 tails chakra, just narutos own chakra. Meanwhile kaguya brushed off 9 super tailed beasts rasenshuriken made by SPSM naruto which contain 9 tails chakra + tailed beast chakra + 6 paths chakra and on top of that being rasenshurikens which cut on a cellular Ivl. Biggest L of momoshiki
@@DwellHidenlmao Fodders below Hashirama, got Stronger than Kaguya?? Do mind telling me what training they did. That Bullshit training excuse isn't scaling anywhere As it is impossible to go from Below Hashirama lvl to above Kaguya lvl ,via SHEER TRAINING which even the likes of Guy or Kalashi cannot attain , not even Hashirama himself Urashiki , the So called Most talented and elite among otsutsuki was bullied around by OG naruto characters
@@DwellHiden lmao do tell me when they trained , when they were all Kages and Had Tons of Work and had to Watch over an entire nation itself Even Naruto confirms that he had so much work that he couldn't properly spend time with his family , and GAARA HAD BEEN a Kage for much more time than Naruto himself . So what training did Gaara do lmao to get A Kaguya lvl amp And also Current Kage are afraid of another Ten tails reappearing , They were literally afraid of ten tails even now in Boruto Let alone Fucking Kaguya Same Gaara can block attacks from Fused Momoshiki, with his sand Shields , Keep crying boy + cope harder Kaguya Bodies Momoshiki
@@DwellHiden debunks Momoshiki to fodder lmao as they Have less Chakra than Killer bee Who has All Chakra of eight tails . And doesn't disprove the fact they were more scared of ten tails than they were of Momoshiki And Kaguya>>>>>>Ten tails herself And It was The Otsutsuki Clan that was stated to be Dangerous to Kaguya, and that they were certain members who could be dangerous to her. Any specific Name of the Otsutsuki wasn't mention And Even Sasuke saying that there can be a Kaguya Lvl threat Is all merely a Hypothesis as said by him and That HE WAS NOT SURE. Momoshiki feats aren't close enough to what Kaguya did Fused Momoshiki got killed by an Absolutely fatigued And injured Base Naruto , giving his chakra to Boruto to create rasengan. Same Naruto didn't even have/use SO6p chakra+ Kyubi Chakra+ sage mode. And plus his chakra was being drained due to chakra rods
I think boruto fans are so dumb to understand that even darui and gara will pack momoshiki lmao. Their next argument is that "but they trained" So u r telling me they train more then gai within just less then 10 years that too in a peaceful era. Gai literally train for more then 30 years just to almost sacrifice his life to fight a non serious madara and somehow this kage training makes them stronger then night guy 🤡
That’s bc the kage of boruto era are more prepared and ready for those threats as stated in kakashi novel, boruto era kage are just stronger than the last generation of kage
Bro, that's more of a writing issue by kishimoto. The Kage are wayy stronger then they used to be, which is how they're able to fight otsusuki clan members now, the reason why Lee and the gang aren't included is because the writer simply doesn't want them involved. If you read the latest boruto chapters, even mitsuki of all people who have only has a perfect dragon sage mode is keeping up with boruto that's stronger than a full power code same code who was stated to be near jigens level and same jigen who no diffed adult sasuke and Naruto. U see the issue? It's a powercreep. Next thing you know sarada who only has MS and Sakura's strength is gonna be throwing hands with boruto or smth crazy, with only a 4 year time skip. Its pretty obvious Kishimoto doesn't know wtf he's writting and he's only making certain characters stronger for plot convenience even if it doesn't make sense how they're able to get that strong.
@@TaariqBethea prepared by doing what? Ass pull? The epitome of training couldn't even last against madara and somehow this lousy ass kages prepared and can fight God lvl beings? Def of asspull
@@bardockjr.5793 They claiming she was at her strongest cap, fat cap...head cannon I never trust youtubers powerscaling a bunch of head in their azz statements.. kaguya was look so outta Stat and naruto n sasuke never even fought her they only got one good open on her, heck kaguya slams them both adult form no seals... no one in boruto have shown they can take her out..
@winz1 Just saw this I agree 100% lmao Kaguya already mutilated Isshiki before eating the Chakra fruit n having to fight a weaker 10 tails is the worst case scenario for them in Boruto ☠️
Kaguya > + the real scan never said anything about threats greater than kaguya it said something that frighten even kaguya could appear one day… this video is ass once u used a promotional of toneri to downplay kaguya
Yes, and that greater threat that appeared was momo and kin, because when the scroll was decoded they were the duo she warned about, and thats why he said this confirms our suspicions were correct
