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Kali's CSRX 300: Now Worse Than Ever! - Rainbow Six Siege 

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Patch Y5 S4.3 has been rushed onto the live servers in a desperate move to fix the loadout reset bug but as a consequence, none of the changes have had the chance to be tested properly. The update to Kali's CSRX 300 sniper rifle (removing the 1-shot-dbno mechanic and increasing the base damage to 122) had already been flagged as a questionable move that might make her borderline unplayable and now for better or for worse, that change is on the live servers. In this video, I will be breaking down the damage stats to explore why exactly the new change is so bad for Kali but that's not all. During my tests I discovered a major issue with the damage multiplier stacking for the CSRX that results in highly unreliable damage output. In short: the CSRX damage model is completely broken and even if it worked as intended, it's a terrible change for Kali players anyway.
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@TheGodlyNoob
@TheGodlyNoob 3 года назад
Yet again, proof that they do NOT play the game
@yoink2068
@yoink2068 3 года назад
IKR it’s literally like they don’t even think, they just throw random shit at the game.
@Kuzess
@Kuzess 3 года назад
@@yoink2068 well, not so random, they are still have game statistics and some feedback but yes, it is not enough to understand, what changes for game are need
@Mekel01
@Mekel01 3 года назад
More like the dev team, as a collective, got Cs and Ds in maths
@denomanos7251
@denomanos7251 3 года назад
And, what do they do? They push the update out with barely any time in the test server. Kali is one my mains and I'm salty mainly because a bolt action sniper in this game is already a disadvantage. Come on guys.
@Alecfisher01
@Alecfisher01 3 года назад
Only a Canadian company would think giving a sniper rifle damage drop off is a good idea lol
@durchfaII
@durchfaII 3 года назад
The buff that nerfed an operator.
@st_420
@st_420 3 года назад
Ubi has experience with that. Remember Ela.
@faj2600
@faj2600 3 года назад
only ubi would pull that off
@rominnoodles
@rominnoodles 3 года назад
@@faj2600 they are dumb as ever
@elaiswaifu5459
@elaiswaifu5459 3 года назад
@@st_420 Ela isn’t really that bad tbh... I play on console and can control her recoil very well... Tho I will admit the new upcoming nerf isn’t a good thing.
@elrymoe
@elrymoe 3 года назад
Its just a buff
@supermarine2493
@supermarine2493 3 года назад
**Gets shot from 35 meters with a highly destructive sniper rifle** "owie"
@Ruvaakdein
@Ruvaakdein 3 года назад
Didn't need my left lung anyway.
@aleksandrazaryanova1677
@aleksandrazaryanova1677 3 года назад
What I feel is the most mind boggling thing about this is that the further away you are, the less dmg you do... on a bolt action *sniper* rifle.
@Ruvaakdein
@Ruvaakdein 3 года назад
@@aleksandrazaryanova1677 Every primary weapon in the game has hundreds of meters in terms of effective range, in game they lose damage after 20 meters like everyone is using airsoft guns. Actually even considering airsoft guns, pretty sure they have longer ranges than that too. Everyone has the effective range of Nerf guns.
@dalan2963
@dalan2963 3 года назад
*laughs in doc*
@alkestos
@alkestos 3 года назад
@@Ruvaakdein yeah real life airsoft guns have better range than r6s supposed realistic rifles. Chew on that.
@ryduann
@ryduann 3 года назад
a slug round shotgun, the bosg with an ACOG, is now statistically better in every way than a 50 caliber bolt action custom sniper rifle.
@R4M_Tommy
@R4M_Tommy 3 года назад
Technically it's a 300 winchester magnum.
@williamclougherty3382
@williamclougherty3382 3 года назад
the actual gun is a .308
@bostonian4650
@bostonian4650 3 года назад
.300 Winchester, but close enough
@siri_uos8246
@siri_uos8246 3 года назад
LOL, Dokkaebi is superior to Kali Now
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 3 года назад
@@R4M_Tommy it’s not technically it IS indeed a 300 win
@BananaGamingMatthew
@BananaGamingMatthew 3 года назад
It takes more bullets to kill enemies and they didn't even increased the amount of bullets you have...smh
@bastablax91
@bastablax91 3 года назад
Damm right dude
@thetaikasaapas6318
@thetaikasaapas6318 3 года назад
Now i feel like every dmr is better than csrx
@Weo-
@Weo- 3 года назад
make it a machine gun smh
@abhinavap4146
@abhinavap4146 3 года назад
@@thetaikasaapas6318 csrx is now closer to bosg territory
@EliGlukhov
@EliGlukhov 3 года назад
the buff that nerfed
@ark4269
@ark4269 3 года назад
Kali was underperforming, so we nerfed her to reduce frustration of the enemy team.
@frozenmagicaster2724
@frozenmagicaster2724 3 года назад
Just let pros complain then ubi will get on their hands and knees to appeal the pros
@the_tube2
@the_tube2 3 года назад
@@frozenmagicaster2724 i have never heard a pros say that kali should be nerfed
@frozenmagicaster2724
@frozenmagicaster2724 3 года назад
@@the_tube2 not kali, but things like goyo, zofia withstand, ect
@zannabia9212
@zannabia9212 3 года назад
Clash be like
@the_tube2
@the_tube2 3 года назад
@@frozenmagicaster2724 yeah because goyo was fucking with the comp scene too much like there had to be a nerf or goyo would rule the comp meta ,and zofia withstand ALRIGHT, she didnt need her withstand it served no reason to be there why? Say a new player asks me "why is ash an entry fragger" i would say " she has a good gun, a 3 speed rating and her gadget helps with enemy gadgets but not waith important stuff like opening walls and shit like that" Than he ask " why does zofia have withstand" How do i answer this, "just because?" Doc has it as he can heal people and himself and it would make sense cause he is doc, doing doc things. Hell it wouldve made more sense if finka had it than zofia So why did zofia have withstand? Idk you cant explain it without logic. Basicly im saying ubi doesnt bend over for pros, im saying Ubi looked at the op like zofia and said "why does she have withstand" doesnt really make sense in a comp game where balance and fairness is the number 1 thing the devs gotta maintain, Same with goyo ubi looked at the data and saw goyo being basicly picked everytime and did what they had to do. Im not saying its perfect but wtf does withstand add to zofia? Nothing its just dumb and stupid like how the lore mechcanics were, just there because
@Fortune.5
@Fortune.5 3 года назад
*Glaz quietly laughing after sneaking into Ubisoft headquarters and nerfing Kali:*
@i-Melika
@i-Melika 3 года назад
Damn right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ettubrute197
@ettubrute197 3 года назад
@@i-Melika BOSG HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
@i-Melika
@i-Melika 3 года назад
@@ettubrute197 even bosg is more lethal than kali's sniper now
@ettubrute197
@ettubrute197 3 года назад
@@i-Melika I’m saying they made kali LITERALLY useless now her sniper is trash and replaced with the bosg they might as well remove kali from the game
@outdater9302
@outdater9302 3 года назад
Glaz is good if you can control the recoil, change my mind
@agletuser6738
@agletuser6738 3 года назад
Ah yes she’s getting the Montangue treatment of “She’s slightly underpowered but people find her a bit annoying to play against so let’s buff one tiny aspect of her that will almost never be utilized and nerf almost everything that gave the operator their identity and call it a good change!”
@stoptakingusernamepls6381
@stoptakingusernamepls6381 3 года назад
You just described almost every operator nerf perfectly m8, cav didnt deserve any of this :(.
@Betroid
@Betroid 2 года назад
She takes a shit load of skill to play effectively
@KillShot-gt2wu
@KillShot-gt2wu 3 года назад
Ubisoft: Kali is underperforming and underpicked because of her bad gun Also Ubisoft: let’s nerf kali’s gun
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
Remember; They thought this was a buff.
@Sgil97
@Sgil97 3 года назад
@@Neogears1312 This is why they need to test their own game
@minhhieuta4794
@minhhieuta4794 3 года назад
haha, that's an intriguing and brainless act of R6s dev team =)) they just only listening youtuber, streamers, pro players, blabla and ignore/neglect the whole opinion of community. We should make a boycott campaign aganist ubisoft to make them clear who is contribute majority to their fortune.
@Sovann_the_Mighty
@Sovann_the_Mighty 3 года назад
@@Neogears1312 no, they try to (and fail to) hide it as a buff. Of course they know it's going to be a nerf
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
@@Sovann_the_Mighty they announced it as a buff, explained it was to make the character better and said she wasn’t picked enough for their liking. They’re just really bad at buffing.
@0racleisuppose
@0racleisuppose 3 года назад
Ah yes, getting shot by a custom *anti-personnel rifle, designed to basically cut holes in people with just one shot* will now cause mild discomfort to a fat french guy using a dinner plate to pad his kevlar. Makes sense, thanks ubi
@lukasm5301
@lukasm5301 3 года назад
lmao
@thetaikasaapas6318
@thetaikasaapas6318 3 года назад
Seems balanced😂😂
@charleouel9012
@charleouel9012 3 года назад
fat isn't material right?
@battleaxealex4449
@battleaxealex4449 3 года назад
I don’t think its an anti mat rifle but in any cause ya you wouldn’t take more than a single hit for most calibers coming out that barrel
@0racleisuppose
@0racleisuppose 3 года назад
@@battleaxealex4449 Given what it does to walls, I'm inclined to say it's anti-mat
@Striker11v4
@Striker11v4 3 года назад
Reducing confusion...? Really...? THAT'S the logic behind this? Saying: "the massive sniper always downs in one bodyshot" is about a simple as it gets. Having a complex damage curve with a variety of outcomes against different armor types at different ranges is way harder to keep track of.
@supdude1498
@supdude1498 3 года назад
I literally shot a Jaeger 2 feet away from me and I died because of this Fuck this game
@delamovies
@delamovies 3 года назад
Well, why would expect things to have logic and make sense when the game is made by mouthbreathers?
@funkycord1336
@funkycord1336 3 года назад
@@supdude1498 same i literally shot pulse shoulder off around 10 meters away walked it off domed me and had a quarter of his health left a 3 speed 1 armor survived a sniper rifle shot from basically point blank range
@jewelgem8074
@jewelgem8074 3 года назад
Jager: *Got a nerf that was actually a buff* Kali: *Got a buff that was actually a nerf*
@antonitog3871
@antonitog3871 3 года назад
For jager it was def a nerf, but yeah kali got nerfed for legit no reason
@massonfink4522
@massonfink4522 2 года назад
@@antonitog3871 he might be talking about the recoil not the mag size. The new recoils kind of nice actually, the mag cap though…….. not so much.
@alexanderflack566
@alexanderflack566 2 года назад
@@antonitog3871 Might be referring to changing the device from 2 shots and empty to 10 second cooldown with infinite uses.
@RandomBeing
@RandomBeing 3 года назад
"We want to simplify Kalis Sniper Rifle so we replace the mechanic that works the same most of the time by a bunch of wierd random damage numbers."
@sarahsinz
@sarahsinz 3 года назад
“You are more likely to catch COVID than you are of getting a 1 shot kill with Kali.” Nah bro I’m never using her again that’s ridiculous
@Dude-do8vo
@Dude-do8vo 3 года назад
me neither and I really liked playing as her :/
@mu556
@mu556 3 года назад
She's a really good alternative when Thatcher gets banned but she will get next to nothing playtime with this messed up nerf. Ubi PLS
@JohnNowakKindSir
@JohnNowakKindSir 3 года назад
Now I feel bad about buying her
@justalpha9138
@justalpha9138 3 года назад
I won't use her in protest until they fix it. This was beyond unacceptable.
@Chasodey
@Chasodey 3 года назад
She was difficult, skillful but rewarding operator. Every Kali checking corridors with smg could be named Pussy as true Kali always trusts her steady hand. And now it's nonsense. Now if you meet a 3-armor a boy from Simpsons would tell you "I'm in danger" coz besides headshot you have no chance against him.
@Zakro116
@Zakro116 3 года назад
Ubi: We don’t want people to use their secondary weapons like primaries so we’re nerfing the recoil of the secondary machine pistols Also Ubi:
@MonoMori
@MonoMori 3 года назад
"Hey guys, Kalis pretty weak. We decided to nerf her weapon even more, making her even worse than she already is."
@toxicgreen8833
@toxicgreen8833 2 года назад
They should give her more mobility with the sniper sos for a year late reply
@st_420
@st_420 3 года назад
Imagine a Doc with Rook plates now needs 3 body shots on certain distances, than goes down and revives himself with 75 HP. KEKW
@pascalmeyer4275
@pascalmeyer4275 3 года назад
So Kali wont have bullets left After she killed Rook and Doc
@CopeAndSeeth
@CopeAndSeeth 3 года назад
What does KEKW mean?
@rookie2128
@rookie2128 3 года назад
Love how time and patches go by rogue becomes less and less forgiving towards the devs
@youcantcme2
@youcantcme2 3 года назад
Well it's more likely he has no friendship with them and how he feels hard done by ubi he doesn't care anymore.
@tthreepo4291
@tthreepo4291 3 года назад
We are about 6 months from video titles like: "CASTLE Rework: Ubisoft can suck my dick"
@m4TT5
@m4TT5 3 года назад
It’s prob cause ubisoft acted really shitty towards rogue so now he doesn’t care if his words to ubi are harsh or jot
@BabyRooth
@BabyRooth 3 года назад
@@tthreepo4291 lolol I was thinking the same thing. The next thumbnail will be a pic of Zofia and the title "I'm glad withstand is gone... Also Fuck Ubisoft"
@ZachAndFriends1996
@ZachAndFriends1996 3 года назад
I mean personal beef he has with them aside, it's the same shitty balancing decisions being made time and time again. I think everyone is pretty fed up with them at this point
@Gypsyshaman
@Gypsyshaman 3 года назад
I already had a bad feeling when I was readimg the patch notes, but I thought "nah, let's wait for rouge's analysis first" Well, fuck
@user-vx7tg6xf7k
@user-vx7tg6xf7k 3 года назад
As a Kali main, this broke me. It made me question if i was truly hitting my shots.
@trevor5834
@trevor5834 3 года назад
Thatcher is consistently banned on any rank above silver so having substantial nerfing Kali like this makes zero sense, especially when the "confusion" from her gun is a non-issue. I'm new to r6. Learned what her gun did by day 3 of playing using this magical thing called Google
@muchluck7981
@muchluck7981 3 года назад
It wasn't a nerf per say, they tried to make it easier for people to understand the gun better but in the process unintentionally nerfed it.
@benbenson1466
@benbenson1466 3 года назад
Confusing: Gun downs opponent except Limbshots and thicc Bois. Straightforward: Gun kills some, except limb shots sometimes. Downs some, damages some, except if they have extra armour. Effects may differ with range. Perfect Logic Ubisoft, hats down to you.
@goblindan2555
@goblindan2555 3 года назад
@@benbenson1466 I agree ... I was perfectly fine with her 1 shot down mechanic... >: (
@Hollycalvey
@Hollycalvey 3 года назад
@@benbenson1466 this is exactly what I’ve been saying... how is it’s current performance “confusing” and how the fuck is this new system better
@muchluck7981
@muchluck7981 3 года назад
@@Hollycalvey Maybe they can adjust the numbers easier? They can increase the gun's power so that it can outright kill a 3 speed and down a 2/3 speed then rook can at least make sure they only get downed instead.
@dalton9497
@dalton9497 3 года назад
Rook is too strong, so i would take away one of Blackbeards shield to balance the game
@Creepersuppe
@Creepersuppe 3 года назад
And a Goyo shield while they are at it.
@kozuu8024
@kozuu8024 3 года назад
While also removing mp5 from doc.
@thefallenglass6103
@thefallenglass6103 3 года назад
@Nico Schilling that was Pretty Savage 😂🤣
@nathanchandler18
@nathanchandler18 3 года назад
@@thefallenglass6103 everyone makes this stupid comment one every single nerf video.
@AT-ob8xr
@AT-ob8xr 3 года назад
They should take away both if they want to balance the game
@clonescope2433
@clonescope2433 3 года назад
This just proves Ubisoft listens to a few whiners and doesn't play their own game.
@IIIWynnerIII
@IIIWynnerIII 3 года назад
💀💀💀
@CrushableDread
@CrushableDread 3 года назад
“We here at Ubisoft want to lessen the confusion that getting shot by Kali will result in a down, by adding unnecessary layers that complicate her performance and ultimately undermine the operator’s existence.”
@antonitog3871
@antonitog3871 3 года назад
"We here at Ubisoft want to lessen the inconsistencies in the game, specifically Kali, so we made her more consistently terrible!"
@SpoopyChicken
@SpoopyChicken 3 года назад
At Ubisoft HQ: Employee: "Sir, this gun is underperforming what should we do?" Boss: "Oh, well simple really, all we do is buff it." Employee: "Oh! Ok, then sir, how about we make the gun kill three speeds?" Boss: "GOOD IDEA!" Employee: "nice, well we'll implement this right away si-" Boss: "AND WE'LL REMOVE HER GUARANTEED DOWN ABILITY ON HER GUN!" Employee: "I- what, sir-" Boss: "AND WE'LL MAKE 3 ARMORS SURVIVE A SHOT TO THE CHEST FROM HER GUN!." Employee: "No- wha- Sir she needs a buff not a ne-" Boss: "OH OH AND LET'S MAKE ROOK COMPLETELY COUNTER HER WHICH WILL ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT SHE'LL LOSE EVERY GUNFIGHT!" Employee: "Sir, I really think tha-" Boss: "OH BRILLIANT! GO IMPLEMENT IT NOW!" Employee: "I... of course... right away sir..."
@WhiteHawke8
@WhiteHawke8 3 года назад
Bold of you to assume the Boss here knows anything about how the weapon actually works now...
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 3 года назад
Yea with his 2x scope he can out- snipe kali now it takes 3 body shots to kill. Probably 4 shots if one hits his leg
@christaincarvalho
@christaincarvalho 3 года назад
*slaps dev's ass* Good job, son.
@alannn7108
@alannn7108 3 года назад
bruh cringe
@theodorethanos2038
@theodorethanos2038 3 года назад
I still don't get how this went straight to the live servers, even with the backlash from the moment it was announced.
@BigBoss549
@BigBoss549 3 года назад
Well it went to the test servers first but they’ve had this in mind for awhile
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
Because the test server is just for stability checks and youtubers to advertise the game for you. They don’t care about what they put in the game at this rate or the community reacts. In their minds they can do no wrong.
@Asdf-wf6en
@Asdf-wf6en 3 года назад
because ubisoft is incredibly dumb
@birubu
@birubu 3 года назад
Rook: literally softcounters every attacker Ubi: “he needs a buff”
@fojjed
@fojjed 3 года назад
Rouge, now free of the concern of the R6 dev team's feelings in his videos, rips Ubisoft a new one and I love it
@JusFoNo
@JusFoNo 3 года назад
The description change would look so damn good, that's legit the best answer to operators' 'hidden stats'.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
Yeah but then how are ESL players gonna blame the game for their incompetence?
@JusFoNo
@JusFoNo 3 года назад
@@Neogears1312 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@ridhosamudro2199
@ridhosamudro2199 3 года назад
@Zhelesnyy Volk I think Ubi just want a scapegoat for the change and already wanted to remove it for quite some time. Otherwise the option to nerf withstand is pretty obvious: increase the time to complete it, or better yet, make a sound cue for it.
@christaincarvalho
@christaincarvalho 3 года назад
@Zhelesnyy Volk yes, siege's object penetration is very strange, i remember those fucking metal beans in old Oregon's basement stairs, they were literally 2mm thick and solid as a vault door
@chunkyrabbit1032
@chunkyrabbit1032 3 года назад
I mean to ubisoft it doesn't make sense that a sniper that fires a bullet the size of a car should one hit kill anybody to the body or even one hit down them so they just nerfed it in the ground
@qnethe8014
@qnethe8014 3 года назад
Ah yes, they changed a worse AWP to an even worse SSG08. I might as well play BOSG ACOG because it is just statistically better LOL this gun is a massive joke
@DuskYokai
@DuskYokai 3 года назад
Ikr like bosg is inconsistent with damage but hell ill take it over kali at this point
@abhinandhari7812
@abhinandhari7812 3 года назад
True true, it's fast and atleast fun to use
@xTheNameisEthan
@xTheNameisEthan 3 года назад
Anyone with a dmr and a 3x has a way better gun that has the same kind of range at this point
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 3 года назад
Bosg gets 2 shots u can follow up, kali's 5x scope is usually too powerful and the bosg can get an angled grip. Also dokkaebi has a much better gadget
@winter6407
@winter6407 3 года назад
@@godlovesyou1995 Kali doesn’t have a 9x Dokkaebi’s gadget is not similar in any way so comparing them is stupid Also, why are you using the bosg instead of the DMR anyways?
@Tyler-ko6kc
@Tyler-ko6kc 3 года назад
"We buffed Wamai by removing one of his magnets"
@ethanleposky3626
@ethanleposky3626 3 года назад
I can’t wait for the next videos on the 6.1 update! Looking forward to your content!
@maismade6013
@maismade6013 3 года назад
The king is back teaching me how to get out of gold. Ignore those certain “people” and do what you enjoy rogue🙌🏿
@bolbster
@bolbster 3 года назад
Fax
@tacillo
@tacillo 3 года назад
Well his aim is probably not gold but his tips are
@rominnoodles
@rominnoodles 3 года назад
Speaking of gold I’m almost out of there I need 9 games was 8 but teammates threw
@abhinavap4146
@abhinavap4146 3 года назад
@@tacillo He puts analysis videos, where he explores and dive deep into the game mechanics, instead of opinionated videos, like the "certain people" mentioned in the main comment. For this content Im okay if he's a bad player or if he even doesn't play the game as much.
@Francesco-bf8cb
@Francesco-bf8cb 3 года назад
"Your character is more likely to catch COVID than to die to Kali"
@sneakylilcav4373
@sneakylilcav4373 3 года назад
Thats a big oof from ubi.
@lunchpin403
@lunchpin403 3 года назад
Covid would kill them quicker too
@adamneulander
@adamneulander 3 года назад
glad to see the content back!
@tomm.8531
@tomm.8531 3 года назад
Happy to see you back Rogue. Hope you feel better!
@budgetbajur
@budgetbajur 3 года назад
"Kali underperforming, Rook affected the most"
@petarkrtolica9349
@petarkrtolica9349 3 года назад
lesgooo rouge is the only reason i watch rainbow 6
@fezthedracky8468
@fezthedracky8468 3 года назад
Same, I haven't touched siege in almost a year and yet I'm still watching each and every of Rogue's videos, top class quality
@snap_oversteer7483
@snap_oversteer7483 3 года назад
This man is the only reason why i am still interested in siege love him
@Crishz
@Crishz 3 года назад
He's our representative in this everlasting fight with ubisoft
@Billy096
@Billy096 3 года назад
Glad you're back, Rouge-9! I don't play R6S, but I really enjoy your experiments and discussions about the game!
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 3 года назад
As always, love how in-depth these vids go, Thank you Mr.Rogue9
@arshadsiddiqui9071
@arshadsiddiqui9071 3 года назад
The buff really should have been 3 speeds are insta-killed and the rest left unchanged. Edit: Got armour and speed mixed.
@kaydenphillips1094
@kaydenphillips1094 3 года назад
I 100% agree
@dekudude8888
@dekudude8888 3 года назад
Ela mains would be furious
@D.Wapher
@D.Wapher 3 года назад
Maybe you meant insta-killing plateless 3-speed ops?
@wasw
@wasw 3 года назад
@@D.Wapher yeah he probably meant 1 armor
@Spolsky101
@Spolsky101 3 года назад
So bassically 125 base dmg. Still Rook makes it a joke but maybe that's fair counter
@knavishknack7443
@knavishknack7443 3 года назад
Saw the patch notes and convinced myself that Ubi is trolling us. Turns out im wrong. Best way to balance the CSRx is 1 shot insta kill against 3 and 2 speed. . 1 speed goes into DBNO. Remove all the nonsense with Rook armor and remove the speed penalty when running with the gun. The only way to increase her pick rate would be to give her another secondary SMG which I dont think is a good idea. Just rework thatcher or introduce another thatcher alternative operator.
@alguienxdd9630
@alguienxdd9630 3 года назад
I could see this working, but if they get a rook is a dbno, for 1,2, and 3 speeds, and the gun speed is fine imo
@sademo2656
@sademo2656 3 года назад
Just make it insta kill and when someone has rook armor u get down simple
@DustyOrange
@DustyOrange 3 года назад
Ngl, probably would have been way simpler if they made her sniper ALWAYS dbno or kill anyone 80 HP or under and ignore Rook armor. It's an anti-material rifle, shit gonna ignore armor IRL anyways and it would make the gun super consistent. Would allow her to be a real threat in the right hands and area deny HARD, forcing defenders to push her. Meanwhile, her weak point is doing the actual pushing. And if you suck with aiming, you're fucked from the 1.2s of weapon switching or chambering unless the enemy has even worse aim. If she's still too weak, maybe allow her to shoot through reinforced walls but create no holes and lose 1/2-3/4 of her damage with no headshot instakill, dealing 25-50 damage to someone behind the wall? It'd be hard to get a lucky wallbang with a bolt action and it'd be stupid to waste your limited ammo too unless you know you can hit them. Allows her to destroy some gadgets or prevent tricking, to an extent, or at least makes it riskier to trick.
@bluehawkbill5445
@bluehawkbill5445 3 года назад
I think the best balancing would be: 3 speeds - Kill instantly W/ Rook armor - DBNO 2 speeds - Kill instantly W/ Rook - DBNO. 3 Speeds - DBNO W/ Rook - same. The gun shouldn't ever experience damage drop because of surfaces, that shit can tear huge holes through 5 surfaces in a row normally, I don't think human flesh is extremely more potent than 5 layers of wood, or if shot through a surface, 4 layers.
@stickdrip_7581
@stickdrip_7581 3 года назад
Id say 3 armors get dbno, 2 and 1 armors die.
@Ghoastly
@Ghoastly 3 года назад
You might as well bring glaz. The games literally Nerf Clanceys: Nerbow 6 Nerfge
@sheikfrankicechibu1827
@sheikfrankicechibu1827 3 года назад
dude hope you are well don't stop doing what you do!
@amnaah653
@amnaah653 3 года назад
I only realised, a lot of the footage has the old bombs also the SAS Pistol, I don't think Rogue uses Kali very often lmao
@strikervx4435
@strikervx4435 3 года назад
why would people use kali often lol? she is just a thatcher substitute in case of thatcher is banned
@amnaah653
@amnaah653 3 года назад
@@strikervx4435 the operator who is banned in 70% of games. Answered it yourself
@kempo_95
@kempo_95 3 года назад
@@amnaah653 there are better alternatives though.
@daemonlordmagnusthered6213
@daemonlordmagnusthered6213 3 года назад
@@kempo_95 Way better alternatives in most cases. The most Kali I have seen for using her gadget is Chalet or Consulate, or Coastline for shooting people from Ruins.
@derdrakkar
@derdrakkar 3 года назад
@@amnaah653 Nah, in those cases I'm just gonna go sledge/buck or something to destroy stuff from below/above, not dealing with the sniper rifle.
@noctanix1227
@noctanix1227 3 года назад
I love how they're making Kali's gun less lethal leaving on people on 3 health when one of the hottest topics rn in siege is removing withstand because of 1 shot headshots
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 года назад
It never was about the game. It was about pros saving face and having things cater to them.
@thegloomyglizzy9968
@thegloomyglizzy9968 3 года назад
@@Neogears1312 Ubisoft had the Withstand nerf talked about way before the pro-game.
@MemeNabber
@MemeNabber 3 года назад
Damn, I come back to this channel sometimes and it reminds me why I quit playing siege before year 5
@Supertoast24
@Supertoast24 3 года назад
I love your content so much dude it’s great how you test out everything in the game so we can know for sure and honestly it’s entertaining when you rip into ubi and how they mess up😂
@panickal
@panickal 3 года назад
There is one solution to this. *Full auto 50 cal*
@ThePilgrimLad
@ThePilgrimLad 3 года назад
it's been done ;)
@wimpyhugz_TGK
@wimpyhugz_TGK 3 года назад
Demolition Ranch made an IRL full auto version of Maverick's AR15.50 DMR. See ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3lYO-5lAcQE.html (skip to around 4:00 to see them start firing it). If that was in the game, gg anyone facing off against that kind of weapon...
@mikeakersa8566
@mikeakersa8566 3 года назад
Ma deuce
@lark7628
@lark7628 3 года назад
@@ThePilgrimLad lovely seeing you here heh
@banishedpest115
@banishedpest115 3 года назад
Barret spam intensifies.
@Wrevex
@Wrevex 3 года назад
I want to know why there was confusion with a head shot kill
@user-yv2fb4mi1k
@user-yv2fb4mi1k 3 года назад
Thanks for the update Rogue!
@UnPokemon
@UnPokemon 3 года назад
"Kali's gun being difficult to use is what makes her unpopular in the community, so we nerfed the gun". FUCKING. BRILLIANT.
@DearMink_X
@DearMink_X 3 года назад
2 Speed: Shot by various bullets and falls to the ground Guess i'll crawl 2 Speed: Gets Ribcage and organs shattered by sniper over 25m away. I will spam running, crouching, leaning, and shoot them to death.
@DanDennisRobloxman
@DanDennisRobloxman 3 года назад
CUSTOM Sniper rifle I may add.
@Demon__Killer007
@Demon__Killer007 3 года назад
Ubisoft: making good things bad and bad things worse.
@Scatmanok
@Scatmanok 3 года назад
Thank you for your hard work. Really! Your vids are a source of many knowledges, hope for you to be good, instead of all strange things comming. Thanks again for these years.
@Cydoniaaa
@Cydoniaaa 3 года назад
I just got into using her and then they do this..CANT HAVE SHIT IN THIS HOUSE
@VolodyaTheFroge
@VolodyaTheFroge 3 года назад
As a Kali main, I was so mad when I heard about this change. The point of Kali was "you hit - you win, you miss - you die", but now it is impossible to duel 3 armor defenders, because it will take too long to kill them. You can't deal with spawnpeeking rook now, he is too chonky. Moreover, you can't play Kali as a sniper now because the damage reduction will make her shots pointless.
@joe-ug6fn
@joe-ug6fn 3 года назад
Right, none of these youtubers even mentioned this, you miss a 3 amour you die you hit you die shits dumb
@justalpha9138
@justalpha9138 3 года назад
I'm surprised as to just how many people main Kali besides me.
@Chasodey
@Chasodey 3 года назад
@@justalpha9138 I will stand for it. Maybe not main, Iana is bae for me with supressed ARX but still I love to take Kali with warmed-up hand and shoot some weirdoes. Not anymore.
@I39393I
@I39393I 3 года назад
with 35m drop off u cant deal with any spawnpeek if ur not landing headshot
@speedtree
@speedtree 3 года назад
We love you Rogue! :-) Just came by the idea, why not have kali cause a nomad effect on the enemy, that would give her enough time to chamber another bullet
@devor110
@devor110 3 года назад
that effectively kills the target, so why not have it be a DBNO? also it could in certain cases lead to an enemy falling through a wall to safety
@g8x2keeper
@g8x2keeper 3 года назад
@@devor110 dbno could also help them to safety, and if they have a finka or Ally it’s the same way. I personally believe it should be one shot with no exception but speedtrees idea would also be nice
@Coconut1087
@Coconut1087 3 года назад
@@g8x2keeper Finka? Is Kali a defender now? ;)
@Sgil97
@Sgil97 3 года назад
@@g8x2keeper I think you mean Doc
@speedtree
@speedtree 3 года назад
@@devor110 exactly, it will be very strong but not broken, as a direct DBNO is in the eyes of UBI. I think it is a great alternative to DBNO. As long as you are constantly hitting your shots you are not going to eat a bullet from your target.
@MickDeaks
@MickDeaks 3 года назад
Oh and has Flanked said "sorry" yet? Rooting for you, brother.
@tiltfuse4020
@tiltfuse4020 3 года назад
It’s almost like Bungie is balancing this game...
@DEUKRO
@DEUKRO 3 года назад
Finally I missed your vids
@KNlF3
@KNlF3 3 года назад
Making things more complicated makes her easier to understand and use yes
@GHOST13500
@GHOST13500 3 года назад
80k views in a day, good stuff bro!
@RogueBipolarDemon
@RogueBipolarDemon 3 года назад
THANK YOU, I've been saying for days, since they revealed the Patch notes, that this is a massive nerf for Kali and you've just confirmed my every fear and worse. As the Kali Main in my stack (With that 70% ban rate of Thatch) this pisses me off so much that they tried painting this as a buff.
@vitalianovitiani5109
@vitalianovitiani5109 3 года назад
I love how you grew more savage with each passing year XD. And rightfully so if you were to ask my opinion.
@eyyylmaolukaszarchive1991
@eyyylmaolukaszarchive1991 3 года назад
Ubisoft needs to learn to code. And then make good games again
@tomseschreiber4765
@tomseschreiber4765 3 года назад
really nice outro btw.
@Gra5ss
@Gra5ss 3 года назад
Kali has been my one main on attack and it’s literally unplayable now
@noir6384
@noir6384 3 года назад
I know your pain dude, i know...
@LifeFlight22
@LifeFlight22 3 года назад
Its truly sad, because I just got her and she's worthless...
@schlopsker.mp5
@schlopsker.mp5 3 года назад
Glaz players rejoice.
@cerjmedia
@cerjmedia 3 года назад
8:51 Proof that Rogue is a Pro MLG Quickscoper
@dominikstratford7301
@dominikstratford7301 3 года назад
nah, he didn't do a 360, mate, not MLG enough
@Stana999
@Stana999 3 года назад
Rogue is back!!! Let’s goooo!!!!
@LiteralIyRyanGosling
@LiteralIyRyanGosling 3 года назад
8:21 most satisfying hibana breach hole I’ve ever seen
@julius855
@julius855 3 года назад
I stopped playing when the new dev team came around and i think it was the right Decision because everything since than has either been ridicoules additions or just stupid balance changes
@JackJones-pw6cw
@JackJones-pw6cw 3 года назад
An easy buff would’ve been to just make her instakill 3 speeds unless they wear rook armour and down everybody else. It’s not like rook was underperforming before this change he was already pretty good. Why all this inconsistent nonsense ubi?
@Territorialist
@Territorialist 3 года назад
Just you saying her gun is "Literal dog water" forced me to like.
@Z3nryu
@Z3nryu 3 года назад
Nug moment
@titanfall3news913
@titanfall3news913 3 года назад
As a kali main im going to do a triple backflipoff the empire state building, why ubisoft, why?
@Specdrums
@Specdrums 3 года назад
Damn my dude no wonder ur having trouble with some Ubi staff , you spend ur whole video roasting their job and I love it !
@starlingphoenix9683
@starlingphoenix9683 3 года назад
"Fancypants straight-pull bolt action" 😂😂😂
@dirtiscake4701
@dirtiscake4701 3 года назад
I was so exited about hearing about her buff. Then, it turned into a nerf.
@phanpny97
@phanpny97 3 года назад
good to see you making siege content again :)
@donvalentino9822
@donvalentino9822 3 года назад
I mean if Ubi ever wanted to prove even after this that they don’t play this game, they could give Rook armour helmet to stop headshots because “that will finally make him useful against everyone”
@Agent_Deko_
@Agent_Deko_ 3 года назад
Oh Ubisoft has made us Kali mains very angry! Us 12
@noir6384
@noir6384 3 года назад
Yeh, i m a kali main and ai am ver angry
@ellisfinnie4279
@ellisfinnie4279 3 года назад
brother how could they do this to us
@noir6384
@noir6384 3 года назад
@@ellisfinnie4279 Now, one part of my heard broken, i am so sad ;-;
@supersonicstrat
@supersonicstrat 3 года назад
Ubi in Kali's patch notes: "Oh no! Anyway..."
@JoaoTiago87
@JoaoTiago87 3 года назад
amazing work
@CynralKynathel
@CynralKynathel 3 года назад
God I love the shade Rogue throws at Ubi for removing “hidden mechanics” rather than just adding an in-game description.
@worthlessisopod4628
@worthlessisopod4628 3 года назад
Every character I love gets neutered.
@avitus5770
@avitus5770 3 года назад
I remember times when Glaz did this much damage with his semi auto. Man I sometimes wish they just reverted him back to how he was in the beginning, heh.
@swiftyasaninja
@swiftyasaninja 3 года назад
Is this punished rogue? I like it!
@travisbroneske3711
@travisbroneske3711 3 года назад
Great video! The Devs "could" balance Kali's rifle well, but I am almost certain they will not. As you mentioned: Dev statement: "we are adjusting due to confusion" Actual result: SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CONFUSING Mid season patch: Devs: "we are getting away from hidden abilities" Literally the same season's operator: ->"hidden" soft destruction ability Personally, I am: A) tired of the devs nerfing this game into oblivion. B) tired of the devs saying 1 thing and LITERALLY doing the opposite Thanks for the excellent content, in addition to the research and testing you put into your content!
@bakagamingcommentary
@bakagamingcommentary 3 года назад
she gone from being super situation operator into now a operator you dont touch with a 10 mile poll.
@temhunter6341
@temhunter6341 3 года назад
Essentially turned into pre rework tachanka...
@Rei_VAL
@Rei_VAL 3 года назад
Ubisoft is legit turning into valve now Just Adding shit without testing it.
@tomshariat4167
@tomshariat4167 3 года назад
return of the king
@chavonjames8941
@chavonjames8941 3 года назад
I actually really like the idea around her and tbh the one shot to down was imo a good work around with her bc you had to confirm your shots and you can build up v quick reaction time. One shot from 2m-30m for playing on Consulate and tryna take garage, plus having the 12x to watch Office where the window is just right for headshots 😌👌🏾 yeah sure bad rate of fire but you for sure get rewarded for getting those shots. Thatcher/Twitch alt but I felt I was using her primary a lot more unlike Dokkabei for example
@TheMihig
@TheMihig 3 года назад
When i read the dev blog, i was like "Lol what, Kali nerfs?" Then i heard they were supposed to be "buffs". Who the hell let those changes get through thinking they would be a buff to Kali???
@motalux
@motalux 3 года назад
love how Ubi's strat to remove hidden stats isn't to explain the stats, but to remove them ubi really need to reverse this dumbassery
@zacharynewcomb6382
@zacharynewcomb6382 3 года назад
Love your data analysis. One question, when armor and speed are always related to one another, why do you define 3 armor operators as "1 speed" instead of "3 armor". They're synonymous, but when the focus in the data analysis is the effect against armor, why do you define them by their speed?
@Rogue9
@Rogue9 3 года назад
Haha, in literally every one of my past videos, I always called it by armour rather than speed, even though the general convention amongst the r6 community is to go with speed. This is the first time I changed it up. But I see your argument, maybe armour is more intuitive for the purposes of my discussions.
@sea6487
@sea6487 3 года назад
8:19 The lag back, i felt that.
@beedo4850
@beedo4850 3 года назад
HE'S BACK!!!!
@wisemadprofessor77
@wisemadprofessor77 3 года назад
i'm sorry why did kali need changing that much? she was fine after they gave her clash's machine pistol, i never thought i was being injusticed when killed by her. slow fire rate, slow movement but high damage is balanced, sketchy damage, slow fire rate and slow movement is not
@spicycookie7388
@spicycookie7388 3 года назад
I had to like the video once I heard the joke about 3 armors getting COVID before getting killed by Kali. Well done
@SentinelTheOne
@SentinelTheOne 3 года назад
Could you provide an Update on your thoughts for Kalis CSRX 300, for the new Y6S1 pre-Season Designer's Notes? ^-^
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