What disappoints me most is how the writer of this movie doesn't see anything wrong with his work and will continue going on to write the next avengers movie. Rip marvel
Actually there is one villain right now who is actually a huge threat but Marvel insists that this villain is a hero. I’m talking about Wanda Maximoff.
Exactly , like Thanos in endgame , he isn't sympathetic like in infinity war but is still likeable because he is fucking strong and has his own charisma
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According to the writer of this mess, he wanted Kang to be an underdog with who the audience could sympathize...he failed miserably, and he still thinks that critics are in the wrong and that comic fans can screw themselves. The guy used to write for Rick and Morty; that explains a lot. The worse part is that in Hollywood, you fail upward, so this guy is now writing the kang dynasty. And the future is going to be worse because rumors say that Velma writers are going to join the MCU.
disney terrible live action remakes, dceu/series wipeout with total restart by gunn, and mcu gradually sucking after endgame... im honestly losing faith to watch movies rn.
I feel like the ending should have Kang go through the portal and leave Ant Man trapped in the quantum realm but because of Scott’s message he sent out the Avengers are aware of him
THEN Scott could've had his own "Wakanda" with all the Quantum Realm warriors. They'd all have a grudge against Kang, so they'd be willing to help The Avengers
That was actually the original ending, where if you remember, Scott & Hope were supposed to be trapped in the Quantum Realm, while Kang was supposed to escape, but they changed it a month before the film released
Honestly, having the first avenger to meet Kang be Ant-Man is very weird. If you want my take on it, Dr. Strange should have been the first avenger of their universe to meet him. In fact, Kang should have been the villain in Multiverse of Madness in my opinion.
In my opinion, they COULD HAVE pulled it off very well, the second trailer was very evident of that. Scott, a man who’s lost time with his daughter, meeting another man that can grant him just that. BUT, we saw none of that in the final film. NONE of it. It wss stupid
Not sure how anyone can take this stupid video seriously when you say Kang made his cameo in Antman… have you not heard of Loki? Lol. Trash opinion video.
Honesty when I watched this movie in theaters with my family and saw the two villains in the movie Kang and Modok I thought in my head “Eric is gonna hate these villains.”
You are absolutely right when you say "we need the Russo Brothers back". They took the Avengers movies and turned them into these big events that nobody could miss out on. Whenever they're involved with a movie, I know that it will defy my expectations. Even though their movies are different in tone, I feel like that they're the modern day answer to the Coen Brothers. Both duos have movies that people immediately recognise, even if they haven't seen them.
For a villain who can travel through time, crush people with telekinesis, blast people out of existence, and possess technology and weaponry centuries from the future, he got owned by the ant family???
So basically an animated movie with a talking cat has more balls, more risks and more effective villains than a Marvel movie? Seen Puss in Boots: The Last Wish yet?
SERIOUSLY!!?!?!? Why is a kids movie taken more seriously with its message, villains, action and brilliant story telling better than half the stuff marvel has put out since endgame (besides a few projects)
I heard that Kevin Feige was a fan of Rick and Morty and hired the writers of that show. Jesica Gao (She-Hulk), Michael Waldron (Loki and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, and Avengers: Secret Wars) and Jeff Loveness ( Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, Avengers: The Kang Dynasty)
I mean Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame were written by the guys who did Thor The Dark World and Pain And Gain. Both films that got extremely mixed reviews. All I’m saying is just give them another chance, and besides Jeff knows about the bad reviews, so maybe he wants to improve upon what he did with Quantumania with his next film Kang Dynasty
I am completely over the MCU's corny jokes.. But my biggest problem with Kang was that he was supposed to have 41st century technology and absolutely none of that seemed on display in this movie. That just told me that the writers have a very limited imagination.. Ultimately this movie just didn't make me feel anything.
THANK YOU. FINALY someone has finaly said how stupied the end credits sean was. like how is the strongest kang beated so easly by ants but they want us to be afraid about the other ones. also didnt the futuristic one look like brainiac from injustice 2. even though he is most likely not dead, they ruined his whole intimidashion value by puting him in this movie
Are you happy now? And by the way, just because Kang is less known than Doom, it doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve his own mcu saga. Not everything is about Doom.
Quantumania really should have been a tense movie where our heroes battled against a more terrifying/intriguing Modok. Once Modok is defeated our heroes are hit in the face with the introduction of Kang. (who was never known by anyone even Janet. Also, think of Darth Vader and Palpatine.) Kang easily defeats our heroes. Kang Brutally kills Janet and Hank. Scott, Hope, and Cassandra barely escape with horrified/Saddened looks on their faces. And throughout the Marvel films, we see post-credits scenes of Kang killing multiverse versions of Marvel heroes to slowly gain pieces of "something" to control the multiverse. Also another suggestion Have Kang kill Cassandra I know it's gnarly but wouldn't you say it would make Kang instantly memorable as the first Marvel villain who killed a child on screen in full display as her loved ones watched?
It's because of Modok's design that I can't watch this movie anymore. He just looks too uncanny. About Kang murdering Cassie...wow, that would really be ballsy for Marvel to do. A villain murdering a.child but we got to know.
MCU didn’t need another ‘Thanos’. They should have scaled the conflicts down and been more nuanced with the affect the snap had on all levels. As for kang, he sucks. As does the MCU at this point.
Chukwudi Iwuji, Keith David, Tony Todd, Mahershala Ali, and obviously Giancarlo Esposito would have been much better as Kang. Because those guys can actually act.
I've seen a couple of people in the comments say that Kang doesn't necessarily need to have a sympathetic side, and honestly, I agree. I think that he should've been a psychopath. When Kang was interrogating Scott and Cassie, I felt like Kang should've killed Cassie and brought her back to life, just to illustrate that he can control Scott (since hurting him doesn't really work) and give him what he wants, which is more time with his daughter.
Yikes, that sounds good. Kang could kill her in a torturous way. Leave her dead for a while, have Scott rage, and threaten to kill Kang for murdering her. Kang rolls his eyes and revives Cassie. He then taunts Antman by saying something like, "Give me what I want, and you can have more time with her. Failure to do so, and you'll have no more time with her." Scott is still shocked at Cassie's resurrection he can't answer, so Kang proceeds to kill her again. This snaps Antman out of his shock, and he pleads with Kang, promising him he'll do what he wants if he lets his daughter go.
@jacindaellison3363 Exactly, like, imagine this, the group is in the QuantumRealm, Janet is already on the move and is elusive about who's here and why she is absolutely scared and funnily enough running for her life *marvel joke*. Janet finally explains to her husband and daughter that when she was taken into the Quantum Realm, she wasn't the only hero there. We see Janet in her wasp outfit alongside different versions of the Avengers: Iron Man, Hulk (Savage or Professor Hulk, the cool one with the ponytail), Thor, Ant-Man (Janet can be in a relationship with this version of Hank during this time), Captain America (They don’t have to be the same cast or have their face shown, but they can experiment with each character costume by utilizing concept that wasn't used without over designing the suit. This is the time to experiment with the status quo, aka Marvel Formula, like the jokes, snarky characters, designs, by testing out others avenues to see if it works. Anyway, the Avengers, alongside an army of resistance fighters are shown to be awesome but very urgent in a mini fight scene by either defeating Kang's army/or completing a crucial objective, until Kang shows up and he Disrespectfully murders every avenger (earned and push that PG-13) except Janet who escapes tearfully and had been hiding since. No jokes to undercut the scene. The scene is heavy. Just silence. This sets up Kang as an massive threat from the start and need to be taken seriously. Apologies for the long comment.
Here are some things that should have happened 1.Kang should have been in a post credit for Dr.Strange 2 2.Kang should have killed the entire Antman family except Cassie Lang and Modok should have also died due to Kang
@@nathanthompson6720 Dr strange 2 was a multiverse movie that focused on the Marvel multiverse. Kang making an appearance would kickstart the whole Kang vs avengers storyline
In my personal opinion his motivation should have been he wants to CONQUER the multiverse so he can stop the chaos in the multiverse and stop people from ruining the timelines
Wont work since in loki they had him get killed cause he was bored of it lmao wouldnt make sense to have him go through the same steps again if we already know the ending of his ark(getting killed by sylph)
His name is kang the CONQUEROR for a reason lol that's his plan and motivation but it's stupid cause they already showed him getting beat by antman and killed by female loki lol Edit Mb I forgot I commented on this before lmao
I feel like this movie would have been fixed by antman dying or him in the wasp being stuck in the realm with Kang. The we just both have to lose line is so good and would have been a good set up for his death
Just gonna correct something you said, Kang didn’t originate in this movie, he was originally set up in Loki when Sylvie and Loki met the one running the TVA, sure it was a variant like every Kang we see, but to say he was set up and introduced in this movie is false when he showed up in Loki. I’m not trying to be malicious, just correcting something.
This movie would of been much better with Skrylar and Modok being the villains. I still stick with my main idea that Immortus is the real next Thanos and is the 1 who end up becoming He Who Remains.
Tony:” if you’re nothing without that suit than you shouldn’t have it” Me: Kang, if you’re not intimidating without that suit than you shouldn’t be a villain.
yeah without his tech at the end of the day he's just like a normal human guy. just look how easily his variant The One Who Remains was taken out at the end of loki they just stabbed him. he's not a space god, or an immortal demon or something he's just a guy with really advanced tech. they should have just made him the villain of Fantastic 4 or something i don't think Kang has ever been big bad material. he's strong but he's no Thanos or Doctor Doom or something
While it’s Marvel’s loss that they haven’t rehired the Russo Brothers, it has been announced that they were interested in directing Batman: The Brave and the Bold for James Gunn’s DCU (which would be AMAZING).
I do think his more human side needs to be developed. At the same time he is driven by stopping the multiverse from colliding and killing itself. He does that by killing timelines. Problem with that is that it causes war and he who remains takes control. He’s seen so much death that life doesn’t matter to him, only what others can give him. It doesn’t seem like good writing but people who kill consistently get desensitized to it and lean more into it
I think ant man should have been stabbed by Kang while they’re trying to fight him and he dies. Then Cassie gets overpowered but puts up an okay fight. I’d also want Kang to kill Janet and modok kill hank. I’d destroy the ant man franchise to show how powerful kangs army is
Kang really should’ve been only a cameo, like thanos in guardians of the galaxy and modok should’ve been the real villain, and have Hank or and Janet redeem him, not hope telling him not to be a dick, that’s just dumb Edit addition: his motivation should’ve been the same from loki where he wants to destroy universes to stop a possible multiversal war
>Council of Kangs exiled a supposedly dangerous Kang rather than executing him >exiled him with his deathship >Kang killed multiple Avengers across the multiverse >Kang got clapped by grade C comic relief Avengers and actual futurist socialist ants >Kang(s) try to conquer the multiverse - with an infinite amount of universe, meaning your effort of conquering them all are uselessly futile, with infinite amount of worlds come infinite amount of possibility, what even is the stake here anymore? seriously, who proofread this script?
If I wrote the movie I would've made modok the main villain and after they defeat him kang would've showed up and kill ant man and the others with ease, that would've made him look like a force to be reckoned with
I don’t blame Johnathan Majors for this at all. It’s who wrote the script. For the record I didn’t think Ant Man 3 was bad but more so just disappointing
In my opinion, the movie should have been based off of the line, "I dont have to win, we both just have to lose". It sets scott as the main character and we see a much more powerful version of antman and kang. Modok should have been a side antagonist who injures cassie, this enraged scott dosent think straight. He goes to fight kang and saves cassie and she leaves the quantam realm, while kang and scott are still in the quantam realm fighting. Thats when the last fight scene happens, wasp comes to help. But in this instance, they fail. Kang spares them which shows that they are nothing compared to him, and kang escapes the quantam realm. Since scott already sent the message, an end credit scene could be someone like falcon or hulk reciving this message and then the movie ends. We didnt even need that stupid council of kang credits scene, we could have just seen that scene when scott was talking to kang about why hes there in the first place. The hulk/falcon scene sets up the young/next avengers. Which could be a movie before kang dynasty setting them up becuse somehow they have to include like 8-10 avengers in one movie which will probably be 3 hours long, so u do the math
Honestly, I just love the representation in the movie. It's nice to see an evil psychopath like myself represented on screen, not those bad guys with a heart of gold or tragic past that every villain has now become.
Thanos is the result of sticking to one of the laws of marketing that MEN OF RENOWNED in the field of marketing understood for decades . "SELL the SIZZLE not THE STEAK" They teased Thanos to us for over 5 years, the human mind is a very strange place, if you allow the idea of a threat to fester and nurture in the mind, by the time the actual threat comes, we've already solidified that threat in its entirety. Thanos is not as epic as he SEEMS to be, but we bought the sizzle... 😥It's hard to encapsulate. It's like how they say ," a slap hurts more when you know it's comming". Thanos is even worse cuz he was a 5 year slap in the making. Kang carried no weight as a result with regards to the MCU not the comics
If you want to see a better representation of Kang and MODOK, you can watch Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Thanks for pointing out your problems with Kang. My main problems since I didn't watch Quantumania is almost everything about him on a basis. 1. He doesn't look intimidating. Kang is supposed to be calm and collected, he acts more impulsive. 2. The multiverse. Isn't Kang's whole philosophy about TIME, NOT the Multiverse? 3. Jonathan Majors. I have nothing against Jonathan Majors, but I think he was miscast, even with the bad writing. In the comics, Kang is white, but this doesn't matter as much because he has a blue mask-face. In this movie, it looks like he's barely in blue and even when he IS in his mask-face, it looks fake and nothing like in the comics. It just feels like they want us to know that a black man is playing the new villain for representation. Also, Eric, 5:36, who might this be offensive to? And I'm assuming by how you talked about MODOK, he's a favorite villain of yours.
Kang's obsession with the multiverse starts when he spreads the spirit of his one and only love Ravonna Renslayer and splits her infinitely across the timestreams in order to have infinite chances to save her and spend his life with her. Which ofcourse turns out to be impossible and he only created an infinite torture chamber for himself.
Imo Kang was a great villian but this is the problem, there's a great villian but no avengers team, how can they do an avengers movie in two years when there's no new team
I was really excited to see the introduction of Kang but was left disappointed. Imagine if kang had actually killed ant man. Now I love ant man and think he’s a very likeable character but if Kang were to have actually killed him that would have been the coldest introduction to a villain. Thanos killing half the avengers was one thing since we knew they would come back and it was his movie after all. But if Kang were to have killed ant man permanently in his own movie like the trailers were making it out to be then Kang would’ve been the most feared villain in the MCU.
These are all very good and very understandable arguments and thoughts. In my personal opinion I see this as like Thanos in guardians of the galaxy and the age of ultron post credits scene thing. He doesn’t really do much and yet but we know he’s gonna be the big bad guy but as of the first time we see Thanos without the stones or anything he doesn’t look like much of a challenge like Loki and the Chitari. But as time went by we started to see how powerful he was becoming and that’s when we got scared. I’m hoping it’s the same thing where Kang isn’t as powerful right now only for them to show more terrifying versions down the line to where maybe they can feel like the next Thanos. Also side note while I wish they kept the original ending I feel like they did this to build up Kang more. Cuz if he would’ve escaped now it would be like if Thanos got the power stone at the end of Guardians of the galaxy. We would all be waiting for him to do something but since we gotta do more movies we gotta wait so they don’t want to make them so powerful now
But in those movies, they never SHOWED thanos as weak, they just teased him, that’s all. Here, he literally gets his ass wooped, undercutting his power and strength, rather than just teasing him, he was turned into a joke, that is not what they did with thanos in the first avengers and first guardians movie.
@@dosomestuff1949 Well if they made Kang too much like Thanos, that would get boring as well. Imagine every MCU villain being so similar to each other. It's just one movie, though. Wait until Kang is shown more and more.
@@SpecialCinema yea but that doesn’t mean u have kang literally get his ASS WHOOPED in the first movie he appears in. And kang differed from thanos in the fact that he’s a raging psychopath who’s pure evil unlike thanos who thought what he was doing was right.
@@SpecialCinema if they were gonna make kangs entrance in the mcu, he should have entered with a bang, not a whimper that slowly progresses into a bigger threat, because that’s fucking stupid.
@@dosomestuff1949 Well the MCU went this route so let's see. It might make people laugh that he was once a weak villain in Antman, but he is now this big threat, but hey, it does make him interesting. To be fair, Thanos also lost too by underestimating the Avengers. Okay, we never saw him fight at the beginning but still. And him getting more upgraded technology from the MCU is interesting.
Have you ever read the comics about his origin? I hope the writers have because Kang has a very good and dramatic story about love there. That was his sole purpose in life. To find a way to be with Ravonna Renslayer. The very act of travelling through time however creates the person he hates the most. Himself. He is destined to become himself over and over again and thus he will fail. He messes up the very thing he loves the most in the most extreme way possible. A life with Ravonna.
Its crazy that Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes the cartoon show did a better job portraying this very same storyline. I really like the idea if Kang trying to kill Captain Amerucan because he felt it was the best option to save his world
Finally someone says what I’ve been thinking. Kang was a massively overhyped villain, and not even a good one beyond that. The only reason he’s even mildly memorable is because of Jonathan Majors, not because the writing on the page was any good.
I wouldn't necessarily say terrible, just kind of inconsistent so far. In Loki, it takes the combined effort of 3 Loki Variants to kill He Who Remains, but then Kang the Conqueror in Quantumania gets beat by Ant-Man, Wasp, Cassie, M.O.D.O.K. and a bunch of giant ants
He was supposed to be at full power in this movie. And he STILL couldn't beat Antman. I think the MCU just ruined their new main villain here. And I don't see how they can bring his dignity back at this point. Especially now that they will most likely recast him aswell. I think we just need a new main villain at this point.
@@EricCarter12 idk if he was at “full” power but basically too powerful to have lost probably. I think he should be a protagonist character and we get a special presentation of his backstory before Kang Dynasty and at the end it shows him escaping the engine core and sets up for his return
Great video as always Eric! Speaking of Jonathan Majors, are you looking forward to seeing him as the villain in Creed 3? I’ve heard that is actually quite sympathetic and a villain you can reason with. 😅😅 He blows Kang as a character out of the water already.
When I saw the ending where Scott thinks about what Kang said and then shrugs it off like it was nothing I’m like Eric Carter is going to dislike this because it’s typical MCU where whenever anything serious happens the MCU likes to make it a joke
Avengers Earth‘s mightiest heroes, Kang was better Than the MCU Kang he was powerful, and you understand his motivation and sympathetic, not the MCU version
The MCU is starting to feel like a bad 80s sequel throne so basically during the 80s one movie would do awesome then they'd make another one and another and more and more sequel till eventually the effects look so awful and horrible that eventually it just ends this is what the MCU is becoming they're effects are getting worse and worse
I don’t blame the actor, or the villain. I blame the shitty writers. They started well in his introduction on Loki, but they failed to keep that momentum going with their lackluster movies and shows.
Also, could you do a The Phantom Menace vs A New Hope vs The Force Awakens, when an Attack of the Clones vs The Empire Strikes Back vs The Last Jedi, and a Revenge of the Sith vs Return of the Jedi vs Rise of Skywalker
For your versus videos, I have some suggestions. How about having the winner based off of 5 categories: Visuals & Scoring, Writing and Acting, Plot, Heroes, and Villains.
Kang should've been saved so he can be the main villian of the 2025 fantastic 4 reboot movie that wouldeve made more sense considering he was Thier villain in the comics atleast Rama tut Kang he never even was Ant-Mans villians in the comics
Not sure why anyone liked this movie. Kang was depowered at the end. Cassie was bad, not sure why the Wasp was in it. Not looking forward to any other MCU movies
I don’t even want to watch Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars if the Russo Brothers don’t work on them. Marvel Executives should see the box offices for Infinity War and Endgame and bring them back in!
