Kansas makes BIG push for Chiefs, Royals to leave Missouri

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State and local officials from Missouri denounced Kansas legislators’ attempt to lure the Kansas City Chiefs and Royals across the state line, saying they would take steps to keep both teams.
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Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas, in a statement on Tuesday, said the city and state would continue negotiations with the teams that Missouri and Kansas City have “welcomed, funded and supported … since the 1960s.”
“We remain in the first quarter of the Kansas City stadium discussion,” Lucas said.
Kansas lawmakers on Tuesday passed legislation meant to help finance new stadiums for the Kansas City Chiefs and Royals in an attempt to relocate one or both teams from Missouri. The legislation, an expansion of the state’s existing Sales Tax and Revenue (STAR) Bond program, could yield hundreds of millions of dollars for each stadium.
It comes after Jackson County, Missouri, voters in April rejected the extension of a sales tax to help finance a new downtown Kansas City baseball stadium for the Royals and upgrades to the Chiefs’ Arrowhead Stadium.
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0:00 Geography Lesson: Kansas & Missouri
1:07 Why Missouri started this
2:48 Enter Kansas to the conversation?
3:57 This is UNIQUE situation, but not CRITICAL one
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@KristianWontroba 5 дней назад

Tax payers have had enough.

@sominboy2757 5 дней назад

a yes vote would have literally kept things the way they are.

@moonytheloony6516 3 дня назад

@@sominboy2757 The voters didn't want to keep things the way it's been. They've had enough, hence the party is over regarding public assistance in Missouri.

@mrp4242 3 дня назад

I mean you gotta love it when these athletes, owners and teams are making millions upon millions of dollars….but they depend on Tax dollars to maintain their facilities.

@switchhandissomebody 2 дня назад

They generate billions. Missoura don't wanna pay? Bring em over to Kansas

@RichardX-bs1pf 5 дней назад

Sports teams EXTORTING money from local residents... Sports betting partnerships with teams , digital advertising on hockey boards, ADS ON JERSEYS..... That's still not enough?

@jonnyt16 5 дней назад

You should know by now there is no end to mankind's greed.

@Ryan.Huston 4 дня назад

It wouldn't take anything from local residents or residents of KS. The stadium bonds KS would use are only funded by sales taxes collected at the stadium district. Not anywhere else

@RJM1972 16 часов назад

Do you get to keep your property taxes to renovate your house? Does any other kind of business get to pay itself in lieu of taxes? No matter how they try to spin it, this is public money for a billionaire’s business. And regardless of what they tell you, these things do not pay for themselves.

@rainbowmade1880 5 дней назад

After what’s happened with the Raiders and now the A’s my adult brain has kicked in. No more childhood fantasies of how important professional sports are…yes I treasure my memories of my teams but now I realize how unimportant all of this garbage is. This story just confirms that it’s completely out of control. Just say no.

@jonnyt16 5 дней назад

Very true. There is not one professional sports franchise in existence that actually gives a rip about its fans. It is only about extracting dollars from wallets.

@rainbowmade1880 2 дня назад

@@jonnyt16 I can’t speak for other baseball teams but I can say with confidence that Fisher and Kaval are as bad as it gets. They routinely lie, do everything on the cheap and literally took no personal interest in the A’s. It’s amazing how disconnected from the real world the ultra rich are. Especially silver spoon ones like Fisher.

@BoulderCityBlues 5 дней назад

Data proves that having a sports franchise adds little to a local economy .Building a new stadium does create lots of construction jobs initially but once the stadium is built all the jobs at the stadium are low wage jobs . The tax payer should never be on the hook to fund a sports stadium unless they themselves approve of it on a ballot ..And only a fool would vote to pay a billionaire to build a stadium just to have the privilege of saying that a team plays in their city when most in those cities won’t even be able to afford to go to a game .

@hunters.thompson8613 5 дней назад

Brodie been interesting to see you transform from bay area sports guy, to pro sports relocation expert.

@jonnyt16 5 дней назад

And uniform fashionista lol.

@user-vc7ps6tk8i 2 дня назад

The last few months has been Oakland A’s, AZ coyotes lol. Underrated comment

@Andysworld365 3 дня назад

The fact the owner would not chip in for the remodel, I don't blame the taxpayer one bit. Its sad greed has consumed the Chiefs traditions.

@RodneyFord-ho7uh День назад

Mr. kauffman is rolling in his grave.

@rzgrimes 2 дня назад

Kansas City, Kansas (KCK) lured the KC MLS team there a decade ago. That is also where the Kansas City Motor Speedway is. If you’ve ever been to that part of Wyandotte County, KS, you’ll notice money is being invested there

@BrownsFaninIowa 3 дня назад

As a previous KC metro resident for a decade in the 2000-2010s (lived on both MO and KS sides of the state line), thank you for the explainer the beginning. The state line is a very interesting and complicated dynamic that very few outside of the area even know exists. There are more layers to it than what you described (for example, KC metro population is spread roughly 60% MO and 40% KS, and Jackson Co MO [where the tax vote happened] only comprises about 33% of the total metro population). It will be fascinating to see how it all plays out. WELL DONE!

@daddydale52 2 дня назад

If it hasn’t been mentioned yet I think the main reason the tax extension didn’t pass is because most KC’ers don’t want a DOWNTOWN stadium! There is no place to park down there as it is! Not to mention the proposed site would uproot a whole bunch of small businesses. That area has just come back and the Royals owner wants to crush it.

@jquatt21 3 дня назад

Brodie ur videos get better and better!!! Great way to explain this to everyone in lamens terms!

@nnonotnow 2 дня назад

Younger sibling? You have no understanding of the historical dynamics between these two states.

@RR-fg2rl 3 дня назад

It's not like there moving to jersey

@jkennedymunden 5 дней назад

As a Kansan-Royals, yes; Chiefs, NO!

@BrandanTheBroker 5 дней назад

Wonder if they both go to the KS side do they end up staying side by side in a sports district or do they split up.

@bkniker 4 дня назад

Clark Hunt's net worth is 1.4 billion. Yet wants the taxpayer to improve his stadium.

@mrmoose6619 5 дней назад

KCK has had Sporting Kansas City (MLS) since 2008 (stadium share with the then Kansas City T-Bones in the Northern League) and their own stadium since 2011. They are the only major professional mens team to be in Kansas so far. Would be interesting if KCK attracted either MLB or NFL (or both)...

@fifthjack4 8 часов назад

The funding plan and relocation planning of the Royals relocation was abysmal. The people planning the downtown stadium were looking at three locations, and a month before the vote they moved it to a fourth location. Then they promised a park over the highway, which is a good idea, but there wasn't a funding plan, so it was just an idea. Lastly, there was no plan for transit. The street car would not be able to handle the amount of traffic the stadium would add. There is some parking in that area of downtown, but not enough. The highways aren't well suited for the traffic either. IF the Royals had a well thought out plan, instead of threatening to leave, the vote would have passed.

@michaelmarkowski204 4 дня назад

All I have to say to Kansas is: Carry On Wayward Son, though keep in mind that, one day, your stadiums will also become Dust In the Wind.

@swanwarlord9955 4 дня назад

How long till the point of no return?

@michaelmarkowski204 4 дня назад

@@swanwarlord9955 Hold On. Let me check.....

@joemckim1183 2 дня назад

The Kansas Speedway the NASCAR track in the KC area is on the KS side of things already.

@sams2960 5 дней назад

Magical word of the day: leverage Teams playing cities for fools makes me sick. After all the loyalty, as Metallica says "Nothing Else Matters"..... end result: fans pay more. thanks a lot.

@jonnyt16 5 дней назад

You should know by now that there is not one professional sports franchise in existence that actually gives a rip about its fans. It is only about extracting dollars from wallets.

@ron1970SJ 5 дней назад

Two stadiums next to each other in Kansas have to be called the Eisenhower Sports Complex, right?

@oubrioko 3 дня назад

Eisenhower had little to no connection with the Kansas City area

@ron1970SJ 3 дня назад

@@oubrioko ok. He was raised in Kansas and was president after Truman. It would be funny that the teams would move to a complex named after Eisenhower after playing in one named after Truman.

@oubrioko 3 дня назад

@@ron1970SJ The parallels are only skin deep, though. One was a local resident who built his early career in the area, and immediately returned to live out his post presidency, while the other left permanently as soon as he was old enough - and only returned to be laid to rest. There is also the proximity element. You just don't see much named after Ike in Kansas outside of Arlington. Eisenhower was never a part of the Kansas City area the way that Truman was. It would be a nostalgic sweet/cruel irony if a Kansas complex was named in Ike's honor as a deliberate knife-twist to Missouri, but I suspect a commercial branding is much more likely. Ike just never got the same kind of local embrace that Truman did.

@kcchristian 5 дней назад

Important note: Kansas’ deal actually comes at no additional cost to taxpayers as they have special bonds known as S.T.A.R. bonds that would be sold to investors that would take on the risk of any losses, although it would likely be profitable enough to pay them back, considering how good the Chiefs alone are, and the dedication of the fans in general. Also of note, where the stadiums would likely be built in KCK already had an MLS soccer stadium, NASCAR speedway, independent league baseball stadium, hotels, restaurants, shopping district, entertainment, plus more growth on the horizon that would be bolstered by a new stadium or two. They’re even building a Margaritaville resort out there.

@Ryan.Huston 4 дня назад

Yeah many people don't know how STAR bonds work in KS lol. I still think the Royals will end up in NKC or eastern KCK. I doubt they would go to the speedway.

@kcchristian 4 дня назад

@@Ryan.Huston I agree. They want that skyline

@flech3025 5 дней назад

F them, they are a private for profit company. The tax payers shouldnt have to pay for your companies expenses.

@dancompton1728 5 дней назад

I agree with your statement in principle, but they are no different than any other company leveraging tax payer money to cover their expenses like Walmart employees being one of the largest receipts of food stamps or oil company subsidies. It's just business as usual in the USA. At least, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce are fun to watch!

@ryanrandolph2224 4 дня назад

I disagree. Pay up or lose your team

@n8doggy733 5 дней назад

its wild how cities just let their teams leave 😢

@MrRicklynch57 5 дней назад

It’s wild that billionaires hold municipalities hostage for their palaces.

@Combatant5 5 дней назад

@@MrRicklynch57dunno if I'd go that far. The financial aid piece is all about financial risk management. The financial risk on a $2 Billion investment is a lot higher than that of $500 million. It's just finance. Does it suck? Yes, but I can't blame someone for wanting to manage financial risk. It's also very likely neither Sherman nor the Hunt family have $2 Billion in liquid assets to throw at a stadium, and I doubt a bank would want to be that leveraged into a single account. That said, if you're wanting to do something like this, you should be willing to accept that financial risk. If you want tax breaks, sure. It costs the taxpayers nothing, but subsidies should not be a part of the equation. Just my opinion though.

@nnonotnow 2 дня назад

Rock Chalk

@johnlandrigan6578 День назад

As long as the Missouri governor does not come to St Louis to get money to give to KC area teams. Nobody 50 miles from KC should pay a penny to whatever happens to the KC Chiefs. NO Kansas money should come if the Chiefs and Royal stay in Missouri. If they move all Missouri money stays in Missouri. NO Missouri person should spend any money in Kansas that would help pay the taxes Kansas needs to raise to get the teams. The initial ballot question was just too high and got thumped at the ballot box. Whoever gets the teams overpaid and impoverished the area.

@dreamwarriordiary5339 5 дней назад

This will happen the same time I become the cover model of your favorite naughty magazine.

@johnchambers8528 4 дня назад

The existing sales tax is so low I doubt most people will notice the difference after it ends. That said I still feel other than normal infrastructure costs to run utilities and road improvements state or local taxes should never pay for any sports facility. MLB and NFL teams today are all relatively successful so the owners of the teams should put up the money to build any new stadiums. If the states want to help more with things like municipal bonds as long as the teams are responsible to see they get paid back that would also be ok. But any general state or local tax money should not be used that hurts the budgets of the state or local government. If anything the addition of a new stadium should be providing additional taxes to the area either real estate or income tax revenue.

@hectorjoya1371 5 дней назад

Hello. 1 item people do not mention. Arrowhead land is owned by Jackson county mo. But new Kansas stadium would be owned by chiefs and chiefs would by on hook for funds if bonds not paid off by taxes.

@ANoss13 5 дней назад

Kansas is also willing to use that sports gambling money haha but if you look at the area, there’s casino, nascar track, mls stadium, lots of restaurants. Jackson county and Truman sports complex had since 1969 to build up around the current stadiums and haven’t… if anything it’s worse because no hotels, no restaurants can stay open since that’s what so many teams care about now what’s around the stadium (which I never really got, go to stadium spend my money, see game, go home haha)

@denniscarver7681 4 дня назад

Once you get oast the good parking it is a major Flash Flod Killing Machine . remember stadiums history and deaths.

@kc2dc444 5 дней назад

You didn't mention that KCMO is the primary "city" of the KC metro area. While the entire metro has 2.4 million KCMO has a population of 510,000 while KCK has a population of 150,000. KCK does not have a proper downtown. KCMO has all the museums, tall buildings, entertainment districts etc. So that's where the Royals should be. They need to be in an urban area or they may as well just stay where they are. The Chiefs can move anywhere and it really wouldn't matter much although it would be nice if hey also stayed in the city where they originated.

@scottNNJ 5 дней назад

This is true. I’ve only been in the area once (and spent more time in KCK, only driving through MO to get to the airport) and that was about 25 years ago. The Kansas side seems like a big suburb. But maybe that’s the goal, to develop KCK such that it rivals KCMO, in the same way places like Jersey City, NJ is developing and pulling business from NYC.

@BoulderCityBlues 5 дней назад

The Chiefs originated in Dallas as the Texans . Just like the Rams originally came from Cleveland , The Colts from Baltimore , the Ravens from Cleveland , the Cardinals Chicago ..Many teams originated from other cities

@ulical 5 дней назад

@@BoulderCityBlues The Baltimore Colts actually started out as the Miami Seahawks in the AAFC.

@BoulderCityBlues 5 дней назад

@@ulical you are 100% correct

@ArizonaHotSauce 5 дней назад

@@scottNNJ Exactly. Getting one (or even two) teams would have been unthinkable given the statuses of each side of the city. Kansas knows this. They see this as a very long term play on so many levels that would infuse a ton of money and interest to their side. I see the 75% "gift" as something that would pay itself back over the course of 30 years. And, at the end of the 30 years, they'll have the upper hand to continue to keep them. All of this will bring more and more infrastructure around the teams. It's a huge move and I hope to see it happen.

@TerryYelmene День назад

IMHO, public funding of sports stadiums is almost never a good idea... EXCEPT... it worked well here in Green Bay! First... no 'owner' personally 'benefited' because the Packers are 'owned' by Green Bay-the public. And second, the sales tax that was levied to dramatically improve Lambeau Field, held to the fixed timetable with the two planned extensions (that tax is no longer in force). Then the team itself enhanced the project with the 'Titletown' expansion several years later when times were better for them. The project was seen to be fiscally successful because the Green Bay Packers are NOT owned by a billionaire... but by the fans!

@Mr.Ed_Wayner 5 дней назад

What does the city of Kansas City, KS & state of KS stand to benefit by financing up-To 75% of the costs of two stadiums?

@loganleroy8622 5 дней назад

Bragging rights over their rival state of Missouri. That's a pretty good incentive.

@Ryan.Huston 4 дня назад

Income tax from the players and team staff/stadium employees.

@Ryan.Huston 4 дня назад

Also the city wouldn't be financing the cost of the stadiums. The state would issue bonds that are then paid back from sales taxes collected from the stadium district(s)

@larryloveless2967 День назад

No problem moving the Chiefs and Royals to Kansas. The Kansas side is developing well there. The soccer team is already there. Being from St. Louis I want no help from Missouri for the Chiefs. Hunt helped Kroenke to move the Rams. At least Kansas City fans get to keep their team. I would have had no problem if the Rams had moved to the Illinois side of the river. St. Louis was only able to quickly approve building yet another stadium for the Rams since a local judge determined a hotel and entertainment tax did not affect all residents so a vote to first get public approval was not needed. St. Louis did however still need owner contribution. Kroenke though against NFL Relocation recommendation and an inital vote by owners finally was given approval to move once he signed an indemnification agreement to compensate NFL owners in the event of any St. Louis lawsuits. Even L.A. did not want any public funding for a stadium but Kroenke did it all with private funding. There are more important needs than for public funding of stadiums in both Kansas City and St. Louis.

@JWarrenPhilly День назад

People complain about poor people on welfare but nothing about billionaire handouts. I love Kauffman stadium. Compared to Busch, it is open and feels like a ballpark and less like a warehouse shopping strip. I hope people see they are subsidizing Mahomes' and Witt's salaries (along with the rest) doing these bs bonds and taxes. If this crap is allowed, I have some business ideas I'd like funded too.

@stevennelson9504 5 дней назад

Having two cities and two states competing for the sports team is an owners dream. It would be better for the cities and the taxpayers If the civic leaders in both KC KS and KC MO just make an agreement that one city would get the football stadium and the other the baseball stadium.

@mr.jeffwithaG 5 дней назад

The municipality owns the stadiums; they should be on the hook for renovations & upkeep.

@user-ys7sn5ft2c 4 дня назад

That is a common real extate gimmick. By having the municipality own thecstadium & land, the team doesn’t have to pay for real estate taxes.

@Patsredsox19 4 дня назад

This is kind of like the Arizona coyotes, but there in utah

@ryanrandolph2224 4 дня назад

Brodie and Casey got egg on they face after picking Sheng Tao over Oakland sports

@SHUB281 5 дней назад

I lived within a 5 mile radius of the stadiums for 55 years. I've seen nothing that these teams have done to improve my quality of life. So I won't shed a tear when those traffic jams move to Kansas

@JaejoongPrincess 3 дня назад

Well, that's you and nobody cares.

@SHUB281 3 дня назад

@@JaejoongPrincess and yet you had to reply Weird

@SavvyBigfoot День назад

Why don’t the insanely overpaid people who throw around footballs on a field all day for “work” take a little pay cut instead of expecting their fanbase to foot the bill?

@robertharnden5472 5 дней назад

The money is and always has been in Kansas

@PHL1213 3 дня назад

you mean the side with nazis and kkk

@markb3786 16 часов назад

@@PHL1213 Missouri is no picnic either

@scottNNJ 5 дней назад

If they go, what might remain in KCMO? They’ve got the T-Mobile Center that has failed to attract a major league team since it was built in 2007. They courted the NY Islanders for awhile, but that move never happened, and now the NHL’s expansion sites are on different cities.

@Enginshim 5 дней назад

As an Islander fan, there was never a plan for the team to move away from Long Island. It was always posturing. Heck, they played at Barclays center when they knew half the arena wouldn’t be able to see the ice.

@joelwright1807 5 дней назад

it gets used by other cities teams to get new arena ( Isladers, Penquins, Predeters )

@scottNNJ 4 дня назад

@@Enginshim Exactly what I said. KC was trying to lure the Isles; I don’t know that there was ever any serious consideration to moving. Though they did host a few preseason games in KC.

@KittyPurrfect100 4 дня назад

Kansas and Missouri used to be in Big 8/Big 12 together and had a rivalry until the Tigers moved to the SEC. College football realignment has ruined rivalries such as Georgetown/Syracuse. Basketball. Pitt/West Virginia. Clemson/Georgia. Oklahoma/ Nebraska. Texas/Texas A&M oh wait the SEC right. You get the idea. Kansas City KS will never replicate Arrowhead Stadium .

@MrMuppetLover 5 дней назад

The Royals and Chiefs could potentially use this as leverage to force Missouri to give them what they want?

@tonyc8752 5 дней назад

Missouri won’t do anything. It will have to be up to the city of KC, Jackson County and surrounding areas to keep the Royals in state.

@jorgearizaga6787 4 дня назад

We want to here Utah news Brodie

@overbanked 5 дней назад

Kansas is the new New Jersey 😊

@jeffanderson3962 5 дней назад

Probably the first time in US History that Kansas and Missouri have competed/fought over something. 🤔

@JacksonGreene_ 5 дней назад

Missouri and Kansas fighting? Nooooo they historically get along famously well!

@davidlasdon457 5 дней назад

If you ignore Bleeding Kansas then you're right.

@edalder2000 5 дней назад

IIRC Sporting KC of MLS has its stadium across the state line in Kansas. The team offices are in KC Missouri and the stadium and practice fields are in Kansas City, Kansas. The two Kansas Cities are about 5 miles apart. It's all about that someone will always pay for "prestige." Though stadium deals are break even-at best-and usually financial sinkholes. Both The Chiefs and Royals will go to someone who will offer the money.

@Ryan.Huston 4 дня назад

They aren't 5 miles apart they meet at the Missouri River and State Line Road. Maybe the city hall's/downtowns are 5 miles apart but it's probably closer to 2 miles

@travistwelfthman 5 дней назад

No stadium needed. Most of the Chiefs will be playing in a federal building soon enough.

@kendeezytv1853 4 дня назад

😂😂🤣🤣

@andybryant5646 5 дней назад

One metro in 2 states is not that unique. NYC has New York and New Jersey. Philly has Southern New Jersey and Pennsylvania, Washington DC has DC, Maryland, and Virginia, Charlotte is in both North and South Carolina, and St.Louis has Illinois and Missouri.

@Combatant5 5 дней назад

No, but most people assume Kansas City is in Kansas, and not in Missouri, when everything everyone associates with Kansas City is actually in Missouri. I can't count how many times people have asked if I'm from Kansas after I've told them I'm from KC.

@steveralston8837 4 дня назад

Sporting KC used to play at Arrowhead. Now they have their own stadium in Kansas City, Kansas. Those 2 stadiums are only 20-25 minutes apart. So it won't mean much to traveling fans. PS: They should never have changed their name from the Wizards!!!!

@Earthboundmike 5 дней назад

Kansas representives sounds insane.

@zch7491 5 дней назад

Why pay for the stadium every time you buy anything, when you can just pay a little extra in gas to get to the stadium. Kansas had the better deal, but you know what they say, the grass is always greener on the other side

@allenhill1223 3 дня назад

Think about this. It would still be at. 435. I 70. West😮. As someone how has lived on the state line Kansas it's still kansas City to me. And the Speedway next door

@kendeezytv1853 4 дня назад

That’d be Crazy if they moved to Anothwr State and kept their Same Name.. Unheard of !

@markb3786 16 часов назад

New York Jets play in New Jersey

@bryanfox6240 5 дней назад

first

@bjdon99 5 дней назад

This happens in a lot of America. A suburb tries to win the team away from the city (as the Braves partook of when they bailed out of Atlanta proper) and throws lots of $ at them. The Chiefs and Royals don't actually play in KCMO so why would it matter if they play in KCK instead? If KS taxpayers want to squander taxpayer $ to get their name on the map, more power to them. Most of the players on both teams actually live on the KS side of the state line anyway, as the tax situation is better in KS and they have some really nice suburbs that people who make the big bucks can live well in.

@markb3786 16 часов назад

Actually the Chiefs and Royals do play in KCMO

@steven4315 2 дня назад

Big win for Missouri if the Chiefs move to Kansas. Most of the chief's staff will still live in Missouri and most people will think they just renamed Arrowhead. It's not like they're gonna change the name to Kansas city Kansas Chiefs.

@loganleroy8622 5 дней назад

Of course the state of Kansas will end up overspending. However, the chance to one up Missouri, a state with twice as many people, is a huge pull. Many people in Kansas would gladly pay extra just to get bragging rights.

@JaejoongPrincess 3 дня назад

Lol, what do you mean by "bragging rights?"

@loganleroy8622 3 дня назад

@@JaejoongPrincess having the Chiefs located in their state. It actually comes up in conversation quite a lot that the Chiefs currently play in Missouri.